I was curious about how these whippings are carried out and what they use to strike the person. I found this information which includes a 40 second video clip.
Let's not forget that Saudi Arabia may behead infidels, stone adulterous women to death, pummel homosexuals to death, and kill any apostates found within reach, forbid young girls to attend school and keep all women as second class citizens.
As in other countries, the explosive growth of the internet has challenged the legal system in Saudi Arabia and they have responded with the kind of ingenious innovations we have all come to expect from the oil rich Islamic State. Recognizing the need to modernize, they have hired ten guys to specialize as Blogger Floggers.
Okay, this was a sharia-compliant sentence pronounced by a sharia-compliant judge, but shootings and beheadings of blasphemers by Muslims in Europe has nothing to do with Islam! Nothing!
This is the nation that both Bush and Obama consider an important ally *against* Islamic extremism.
Wait! Are you judging their culture?
Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether They are Islamic Fundamentalists, or support Islamic terrorism around the world—they do. [winks at ARM] But you can't hold a whole religion responsible for the behavior of a few, sick perverted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame all belief systems? And if all belief systems are guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our humanity in general? I put it to you, Revenant: isn't this an indictment of our entire Western civilization? Well, you can do what you you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth civilization. Gentlemen!
When you come to criticize the Saudi royals, consider Mubarak and the Shah (and in a different era Lon Nol in Cambodia). Some governments are very bad but far from the worst of all possible governments.. The left believes we should make peace with our enemies, undermine our allies, and send Cheney to jail.......I remember the extravagant criticism the Shah received for his lavish life style. All his silk pavilions and gold plates cost far, far less than one of the Mullah 's nuclear reactors.
garage mahal said... "What group of people would want to flog a liberal blogger?"
I know you are completely ignorant of history but just a heads up. After the revolution is over and the statists/socialists seize power, the purges start. The academics/liberals are always the first on the list.
In America, a hate crime leveraged by the social complex (e.g. civil rights, women's rights) would carry a sentence of one or more of the following: financial flogging; emotional rape; social and political blacklisting; collateral damage, including but not limited to rioting; reeducation of class-related individuals in state run institutions; and future protection purchased and enforced by the social and political rackets, respectively.
As to the Saudis: Remember, these are our allies (more or less). And it is actually true that the alternatives in the region are much worse.
Saudi Arabia is not notably better than Iran. In many ways it is worse, because the Iranian people are mostly pretty reasonable while the Saudi people are mostly a bunch of barbarians.
Who would flog a liberal blogger? Other liberals. Seriously, any liberal who would dare to challenge the narrative would receive the full on enmity of the rest of the liberal world.
"Goju said... Who would flog a liberal blogger? Other liberals. Seriously, any liberal who would dare to challenge the narrative would receive the full on enmity of the rest of the liberal world."
Exactly. Ask Larry Summers. And he didn't even directly challenge it. He just said "perhaps we should think about this."
Achilles said... garage mahal said... "What group of people would want to flog a liberal blogger?"
I know you are completely ignorant of history but just a heads up. After the revolution is over and the statists/socialists seize power, the purges start. The academics/liberals are always the first on the list.
Well that leaves garage out. He has just enough intellectual capacity to wield the whip. He's going to get even with a lot of people.
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Flogistan theory was undone by a Frenchman. Unfortunately, the Left beheaded him.
It's the stone age with laptops.
This is the nation that both Bush and Obama consider an important ally *against* Islamic extremism.
I was curious about how these whippings are carried out and what they use to strike the person.
I found this information which includes a 40 second video clip.
http://www.corpun.com/counsaj.htm
Let's not forget that Saudi Arabia may behead infidels, stone adulterous women to death, pummel homosexuals to death, and kill any apostates found within reach, forbid young girls to attend school and keep all women as second class citizens.
On the other hand, the Tea Party.
Let's keep it all in perspective people.
That sounds like a slow death penalty.
WHAT? No constitutional freedom of speech and press under Sharia?
As in other countries, the explosive growth of the internet has challenged the legal system in Saudi Arabia and they have responded with the kind of ingenious innovations we have all come to expect from the oil rich Islamic State. Recognizing the need to modernize, they have hired ten guys to specialize as Blogger Floggers.
Okay, this was a sharia-compliant sentence pronounced by a sharia-compliant judge, but shootings and beheadings of blasphemers by Muslims in Europe has nothing to do with Islam! Nothing!
So what did he say that was so awful? Is BBC worried that they might be flogged (or worse) if they repeat it.
As to the Saudis: Remember, these are our allies (more or less). And it is actually true that the alternatives in the region are much worse.
Is THIS Islam?
This religion needs better PR flacks.
(this is sarcasm.)
Rev - thanks for including Bush, who last in office over six years ago.
This is the nation that both Bush and Obama consider an important ally *against* Islamic extremism.
Wait! Are you judging their culture?
Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether They are Islamic Fundamentalists, or support Islamic terrorism around the world—they do. [winks at ARM] But you can't hold a whole religion responsible for the behavior of a few, sick perverted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame all belief systems? And if all belief systems are guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our humanity in general? I put it to you, Revenant: isn't this an indictment of our entire Western civilization? Well, you can do what you you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth civilization. Gentlemen!
How very modern and Western: Flogging on the installment plan. Each week, he is put back in lay-away.
It's like QVC where they take your money in six monthly installments.
It's Easy-Flay.
What group of people would want to flog a liberal blogger?
garage mahal asked...
What group of people would want to flog a liberal blogger?
Sharia-the-wealth people, that's who.
Sharia-the-welt people too -- i.e., sadists.
When you come to criticize the Saudi royals, consider Mubarak and the Shah (and in a different era Lon Nol in Cambodia). Some governments are very bad but far from the worst of all possible governments.. The left believes we should make peace with our enemies, undermine our allies, and send Cheney to jail.......I remember the extravagant criticism the Shah received for his lavish life style. All his silk pavilions and gold plates cost far, far less than one of the Mullah 's nuclear reactors.
The punishment is disproportionate to the violation.
Gahrie,
Kudos.
garage mahal said...
"What group of people would want to flog a liberal blogger?"
I know you are completely ignorant of history but just a heads up. After the revolution is over and the statists/socialists seize power, the purges start. The academics/liberals are always the first on the list.
In America, a hate crime leveraged by the social complex (e.g. civil rights, women's rights) would carry a sentence of one or more of the following: financial flogging; emotional rape; social and political blacklisting; collateral damage, including but not limited to rioting; reeducation of class-related individuals in state run institutions; and future protection purchased and enforced by the social and political rackets, respectively.
Howard Dean hardist hit.
As to the Saudis: Remember, these are our allies (more or less). And it is actually true that the alternatives in the region are much worse.
Saudi Arabia is not notably better than Iran. In many ways it is worse, because the Iranian people are mostly pretty reasonable while the Saudi people are mostly a bunch of barbarians.
Who would flog a liberal blogger? Other liberals. Seriously, any liberal who would dare to challenge the narrative would receive the full on enmity of the rest of the liberal world.
"Goju said...
Who would flog a liberal blogger? Other liberals. Seriously, any liberal who would dare to challenge the narrative would receive the full on enmity of the rest of the liberal world."
Exactly. Ask Larry Summers. And he didn't even directly challenge it. He just said "perhaps we should think about this."
Achilles said...
garage mahal said...
"What group of people would want to flog a liberal blogger?"
I know you are completely ignorant of history but just a heads up. After the revolution is over and the statists/socialists seize power, the purges start. The academics/liberals are always the first on the list.
Well that leaves garage out. He has just enough intellectual capacity to wield the whip. He's going to get even with a lot of people.
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