"Some parents, if they called in repeatedly, were fined for wasting police time. Some officers and local officials told the investigation that they did
not act for fear of being accused of racism. But [Alexis Jay, a former chief inspector of social work who was commissioned by the Rotherham Council to carry out an independent investigation] said that for
years there was an undeniable culture of institutional sexism. Her
investigation heard that police referred to victims as 'tarts' and to
the girls’ abuse as a 'lifestyle choice.' In the minutes of a
meeting about a girl who had been raped by five men, a police detective
refused to put her into the sexual abuse category, saying he knew she
had been '100 percent consensual.' She was 12.... During an
interview at her home outside Rotherham, [one victim] recalled being questioned
about her abuse by police officers who repeatedly referred to the main
rapist as her 'boyfriend.'"
The NYT reports on the Rotherham rape scandal.
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Has their been any uproar from all the Muslims who, theoretically, don't agree with this type of activity? From the general Pakistani communities in the UK, or in Pakistan?
Re: "But [Alexis Jay, a former chief inspector of social work who was commissioned by the Rotherham Council to carry out an independent investigation] said that for years there was an undeniable culture of institutional sexism."
I am no 'former chief inspector of social work' but I think sexism is, at most, a secondary characteristic in this situation. I think we are seeing police of one culture grown callous at the no-win position of policing a different self-destructive culture. No-win: racist if you act, sexist if you don't.
No Second Amendment to allow citizens to protect themselves in the U.K. but the perp has one to make the victim compliant? In the U.S. we have enablers like Mothers Against Guns and Bloomberg trying to model our country after the U.K.
Note to Bloomberg, et al., now that you have made charges of racism your nuclear option against law enforcement (Ferguson, MO.) being the latest example, how do you rationalize disarming law-abiding citizens knowing the criminals who break our laws with gay abandon will always have weapons to commit their depraved activities? Give them access to "medical marijuana' to make the mellow? Clueless!
The British sure have fallen a long ways from the standard set by Charles Napier, who is famous for saying:
"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."
If you want to maintain the customs of your birth country, why did you leave? If you want to live under Sharia law, why not move to a country that already imposes it?
The police and social services departments of that city need to be completely cleaned out and the employees prosecuted for failure to perform their duties.
I have daughters. I remember when they were 12.
1. The concept of them "consenting" to sex with ANY man is absurd.
2. They never would have been allowed to be in position where this could happen. End of story. Never.
Liberals don't care in the least about sexism unless they can pin it on straight white christian males. If it's Pakistanis, mexicans or blacks, you're on your own, ladies. We have to maintain the victim structure! Non-whites are more victims than rape victims of non-whites, because white supremacy! Think of it as reparations.
men of Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Afghan origin
I note that the term "Muslim" doth not escape the pen of the NYT writer...
Pakistani youths of 30, I guess...
I haven't read a story yet which says that any of these men in Rotherham or elsewhere have been arrested.
While it may be a factor, an interesting choice by the Times.
I figure whatever story and leads Jimmy Olsen's working on, he comes back and uses this handy angle chart:
'Racism'
'Sexism'
'Feminism' (The Art Of Female-Superior Victimology)
'Why Aren't We Yet Equal (Sung to We Shall Overcome)'
'The Environment (The Furious Fist Of Regulatory (S)cience)
'Gay Is The New Civil Rights'
'Those Poor, Plucky Immigrants'
'Hipster Sundays'
with gay abandon
Uh-oh. ; )
New York Times Stylebook trifecta:
Women, children and South Asian minorities hardest hit.
The will of the British to enforce conformity to their laws is gone. Laws unenforced become laws that are ignored. The secondary culture itself may not spread outside its parameters of origin but the general disregard for law will. Eventually to be foolish enough to follow the law is to be the victim.
How are these public officials not in prison. Does anyone in government go to prison?
I ask again, Althouse, "how slippery is the slope?"
The failure to investigate was not caused by sexism. No one would honestly think a 12-year-old girl had the capacity to agree to sex with 5 men. The outrage in Britain of other child sex abuse scandals where the perpetrators were white shows that sexism did not prevent official from protecting these girls.
The failure to investigate was caused by cowardice--fear of what would happen if an investigation brought to light negative information about a favored minority group. The "tart" comments were a pathetic cover for their cowardice.
Put yourself in the place of a policeman. Do you want to admit (even to yourself) that you are such a coward that you will not intervene to protect a child? No, you displace the guilt by offering yourself an excuse that the victim was a "tart."
It's a collision of two soap operas.
The NYT picks up the story seven days after the rest of the press.
Diversity: choose the culture that best fits your depravity.
The worst example of the results of political correctness yet found.
Who will pay?
UK Social Worker Given Diversity Training After Exposing Pakistani Sex Ring"
Betamax wrote:
"I think we are seeing police of one culture grown callous at the no-win position of policing a different self-destructive culture. No-win: racist if you act, sexist if you don't."
Isn't that what's happening in the black community now? There's no sexism charge if the cops don't act, but there is the charge that society is abandoning the black community. But there will be a riot as soon as a cop inevitably shoots a black man. Statistically it will happen again, even if there is no racial animus. But the black community is marginalizing itself from adequate policing because of their reaction. And I'm sure cops are similarly saying, why bother?
The Times would like to pretend that this is an isolated case in an isolated English village. But it isn't. This is the future of Progressivism. Progs fear Muslims -- they have been known to murder to make a point. So Muslims get a pass at all times for anything they do.
“You must never refer to that again. You must never refer to Asian men,” the social worker was told by a superior, she told the BBC. “And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity class.”
One truth is worth a thousand lies. In the 8/25 issue of The New Yorker, there is an article by Lauren Collins entitled The Spy Who Loved Me. The article is about a police operative who infiltrated subversive groups. As part of his undercover work or, perhaps, just because that's how life happens or because he was a scoundrel, he formed a romantic relationship with a girl. He fathered a child with her. When his undercover work was completed, he moved on and left the girl in the lurch......He wasn't the only undercover cop who did this. Twelve other undercover cops behaved in a similar fashion. Some very expensive lawsuits are pending.......The article was sympathetic to the woman and justifiably harsh to the cop. But here's my question: why is there a lengthy article detailing this abuse but no reportage on the far more despicable crimes involving these Pakistani cab drivers?......Even in the NYT article, the subliminal message seems to be that police officers are sexist and not that the Pakistanis involved are scum.
Two words you won't find in the NYTimes article: Muslim and Islam. What's more, you won't find them in the comments either. I left a comment to that effect, and it hasn't been published.
Why is that, I wonder?
One possibility is that Pakistani child rapists have sodomized many of the policemen and officials, turning them into obedient zombies of sorts.
Political correctness trumps child rape.
Modern Liberalism in a nutshell.
Oh thank god we have the NYT. For seven days I've worried that this awful story might be the fault of liberals. How I worried those hateful knuckle dragging neanderthals would use this story to attack relativism and PC culture.
It took the NYT seven days but they finally figured out how this story is really the fault of christian males and their patriarchy.
Just to keep the scale of this in mind, Rotherham has a slightly larger population than Madison.
Those 'in charge', from the police all the way up the ladder, have become dhimmis, on their own. If the perps weren't muslim, do you think it would have been swept under the rug (as suggested by those afraid of being called a racist)?
Dhimmitude - "..the word that describes the state of those who refused to convert to Islam and became the subjugated non-Muslims who were forced to accept a restrictive and humiliating subordination to a superior Islamic power and live as second-class citizens in order to avoid enslavement or death. These peoples and populations were known as dhimmis, and if such a status was not humiliating enough, a special tax or tribute, called the jizya, was imposed upon them and upon all dhimmis.
Dhimmitude is the direct outcome of jihad, which is the military conquest of non-Islamic territory mandated by Allah as a spiritual obligation for every individual Moslem and Moslem nation.
From its beginnings in the seventh century, Islam spread through violent conquest of non-Moslem lands......
Jihad can be pursued through force or other means such as propaganda, writing, or subversion against the perceived enemy."
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Fools, all of whom should be tried as accomplices.
This is all completely unsurprising, being simply one of the many horrible and inevitable (and predictable) consequences of electing Progressives.
Self-help sounds like the best option in Rotterham.
All those "Dirty Harry" and Charles Bronson movies worked in the 1970s because faith in local law enforcement in large American cities had disappeared. People could identify with the feelings of helplessness and were prepared to forgive -- on screen anyway -- the necessary violence.
We'll start to see these scenes happening in real life. And juries will be encourage to nullify law that are used to punish the righteous and let free the villainous.
The slope is slippery.
A Clockwork Orange.
Arrived at last.
Thanks to Progressives everywhere.
Another interesting angle that the NYT failed to mention is that the woman in charge, who was more than happy to let kids be sexually brutalized for years in the name of correctness, is the same woman who removed children from a home for no other reason than the parents are members of UKIP.
Insufficiently Sensitive said...
The worst example of the results of political correctness yet found.
Oh, I dunno, 9/11 was probably worse.
(passport inspector was suspicious of Mohamed Atta (IIRC) but didn't report him for fear of being called a racist)
NYT is defending cultural "diversity" policies through shifting responsibility from the perpetrators. How many British will accept their defense? Can Norway, France, Sweden, Serbia and other European nation's confrontations with "diversity" be explained in the same terms? Of course, the real prize is America. Land of developed natural resources a la South Africa. This is just the Left acting proactively to secure their interests.
They don't really care about the children, not really. At least that interest is not universal, and individuals will sacrifice their principles to maintain their political coalition. That's what went wrong in Britain. It wasn't just overpopulation (i.e. immigration or migration exceeding rate of assimilation), but also their left-wing marginalizing the native population in order to create leverage.
The connections of this behavior to the original cultures and religion of Islam, and the criminality and brutality of the perps is pretty obvious.
The utter failure of social workers and police officers to do their most basic duty is pretty obvious.
The connection with other ideas that drive culture and politics in Britain and Rotherham, and likely contributed to this utter failure is pretty obvious.
The NY Times is pretty far invested in similar ideas it seems, so their decision to wait a week (think if this was the Catholic Church) is pretty obvious.
Onward!
There's another kind of bigotry at work here. Most of the victims were WHITE girls, and I'll bet most of those were lower class. They were deemed not worth protecting because...I can't imagine. I look at my girls and think of those poor children, surrounded by adults either powerless to protect them (like the father who was threatened with arrest when he tried to protect his daughter) or willfully ignorant. There's a special place in hell for these officials.
Oh, I dunno, 9/11 was probably worse.
(passport inspector was suspicious of Mohamed Atta (IIRC) but didn't report him for fear of being called a racist)
There are approximately 3.6 million children 10-14 in the UK. 1400 is about .47% of that population. In the US, the same percentage works out to about 96,000 children.
If it came to light that officials in the US had covered-up or ignored almost 100k cases of child prostitution for fear of being called racist, there would be blood in the streets.
Cheryl:
The father now knows that it is incumbent on him to disobey the unjust laws, procure weapons and exact judgment against the offenders. Without the state to mete out justice through its monopoly on violence, others will take up the mantle and provide appropriate violence.
Or England will commit suicide. Either way.
Mr. Wibble:
One hopes that Americans would rise up in rebellion against authorities and demand retribution. But have you noticed that all of the Leftist usual suspects avoid these sorts of threads?
One wonders whose side the resident Lefties support. The evidence does not strongly support an opinion, yet.
Well the British social worker who ultimately blew the whistle on this mess received a reprimand from her supervisor; she was also instructed to never use the term "Asian Men" again--and sent off to a two day diversity re-education program.
The British government is now supine in the face of a Muslim invasion. It lies on its back, singing that good old WW II ditty "Violate Me In The Violet Time In The Vilest Way You Know".
It's a nasty job but the Muslim population in Bradford is up to it. --Same goes for Rotherham.
For all I agree about the stifling effects of PC, you gotta wonder if there were a little upside for the cops - money, cooperation of informants on other matters and/or access to girls?
Even if most of the cops had given up, this is just so monolithic, I can't see it as the result of just PC-induced willful blindness.
Anyway, more interestingly, what about all the other towns and cities in the UK with similar demographics? What about other parts of Europe and even certain cities in the US? Do we really think that this one town is so special?
This is the real rape culture.
This happens all the time in the US media where the perps race is never mentioned even in he description given to the police.
"The failure to investigate was caused by cowardice ..."
No, it was caused by complicity, by lefty social engineering, by the fact that the left hates it's own civilization more than anything else, by the policy set by Labour, by the treason of the progressive "intellectual" class, by the "we need no values" culture (itself a toxic result of the "liberated" sixties), by the left's infatuation with islam (it seems to have become their state faith), by the march trough the institutions, by the left's propensity to see people as constructs, not living beings, ...
As an example of that, from 2006;
"A teenage schoolgirl was arrested by police for racism after refusing to sit with a group of Asian students because some of them did not speak English.
Codie Stott's family claim she was forced to spend three-and-a-half hours in a police cell after she was reported by her teachers.
...
"The 14-year-old - who was released without charge - said it had been a simple matter of commonsense and accused the school and police of an over-the-top reaction"
This is very similar to pimping behavior: Pick a young target. Romance and flatter her a little, use her fear and vulnerability to make her increasigly dependent, drawing her deeper under your control and manipulation until she's a virtual slave or drug-addicted and you've got another revenue stream.
The criminal aspect stands out, too, I suppose, connected to all the other low-level hustling, drug-pushing and little profit-schemes of hoodlums.
But these guys wanted the girls, too, and I'm guessing thought culturally to some extent they had a 'right' to them.
Clearly awful behavior, with likely some cultural custom and religious aspects going on, and the people most responsible swept it under the rug.
No one probably wanted the trouble and to enflame tensions.
An institutional and cultural failure of authority.
I had seen the headlines and had not read the story until now -- a mini third-world ISIS terrorizing a polite first-world small town society. What is wrong with these people? These cockroaches should be systematically exterminated and there is no civilized way to do that than to catch and put them in jail.
I haven't read a story yet which says that any of these men in Rotherham or elsewhere have been arrested.
There were some small prosecutions in 2010 or so and a few men went to jail, but that's all I know of. (unless you are talking about the officials in charge).
I think the comments above (about the girls being "tarts" is likely more about class than sex.
you gotta wonder if there were a little upside for the cops - money, cooperation of informants on other matters and/or access to girls?
I have been wondering if a large number of cops were in on this too - somewhere I read where a cop was quoted as dismissing one of the victims as "a tart", another quote something to the effect that a 12-year old had "consensual sex" with 5 different men. To me, it seems like the victims are seen as sexual objects 1st, and maybe as young girls 2nd. Is there any man here who would follow the same order? I think not. Something desensitized these officials to what was going on - I'm going to wager they were part of it.
In the linked article a victim talks about several guys on her ay once, and cameras flashing. Who knows, maybe there are some cops that were secretly recorded, and then advised of that afterwards.
I think UKIP & the BNP just got their Christmas present early.
FullMoon:
Given the fact you don't know Tank or his girls, may I suggest you hold your tongue?
Or did you intend to come across as a vulgar prick?
"Lie back and think of diversity." #liberaltipstodealwithrape
Immigration is rape culture. Islam is rape culture.
I'm with holdfast. The history of police officers and other government officials being on the take goes back a hell of a lot further than the advent of "multiculturalism". Maybe the ideology reduces the price somewhat, I guess, but I'd bet heavily that there's some old-time silver-or-lead bargain at the heart of it.
Cheryl said...
There's another kind of bigotry at work here. Most of the victims were WHITE girls, and I'll bet most of those were lower class. They were deemed not worth protecting because...I can't imagine. I look at my girls and think of those poor children, surrounded by adults either powerless to protect them (like the father who was threatened with arrest when he tried to protect his daughter) or willfully ignorant. There's a special place in hell for these officials.
It gets worse! Many of these girls were as the British say; 'in care'. Meaning that they were basically wards of the state due to the inability of their parents to care for them.
The ideological nonsense of the elite is paid for by the suffering of the poor.
Read Theodore Dalrymple and none of this is a surprise.
exhelodrivr1 Crickets all the way down.
men of Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Afghan origin...damned Episcoplians.
"The father now knows that it is incumbent on him to disobey the unjust laws, procure weapons and exact judgment against the offenders. Without the state to mete out justice through its monopoly on violence, others will take up the mantle and provide appropriate violence."
Some of the fathers tried. THEY were arrested.
Back in the day these officials would have been the guests of honor at a neck tie party. The men of Rotherham should revive that tradition for this particularly vile group of officials. For the encouragement of the others.
Birkel said...
Self-help sounds like the best option in Rotterham.
All those "Dirty Harry" and Charles Bronson movies worked in the 1970s because faith in local law enforcement in large American cities had disappeared. People could identify with the feelings of helplessness and were prepared to forgive -- on screen anyway -- the necessary violence.
We'll start to see these scenes happening in real life. And juries will be encourage to nullify law that are used to punish the righteous and let free the villainous.
The slope is slippery.
So, are you encouraging vigilante justice, and assuming jury nullification will set the vigilantes free ala OJ Simpson?
Had a Mom here in Ca. who used a little bitty gun to publicly perforate the man who sexually abused her son. The man died right there in the courtroom. She died in prison.
EVERYBODY was on her side, even the jurors.
If you are trying to raise a headstrong, rebellious teenager, there are very few tools available to you. You can not physically punish them. You can not lock them in, make them go to school, or do anything they don't want to do. They know they can call child protective services and tell you so. You can take away their privileges but once you have done that and they don't respond, there is nothing else you can do--except for one thing. If you have insurance that covers it, and you know they are smoking pot, you can send them to residential drug rehab. There they can be locked up, closely supervised on everything they do, and they can't listen to their music. They hate it.
It works like a charm because after they get out, every time they get out of line you can threaten to send them back.
This worked with my son until he was old enough to join the navy and then it wasn't my problem anymore.
NYT struggling mightily to move this out of the uncomfortable "anti-racism led to willful blindness" narrative and into the comfortable "sexism led to willful blindness" narrative. Always important for a paper like the NYT to comfort the comfortable, and reassure them that their prejudices and preconceptions are all 100% okay.
I asked and the answer is offered. Prick it is.
Insufficiently Sensitive: "The worst example of the results of political correctness yet found.
Who will pay?"
If the left gets its way, it will be white, male Christians.
I see FullMoon has pulled the night shift in "lets talk about anything except the rape culture of islamists!"
The Times says "The victims identified in the report were all white, while the perpetrators were mostly of Pakistani heritage". What race are Pakistanis? Most are "Caucasian", I believe. That's another word for white -- I know because I've filled out forms for myself for 6 decades checking the Caucasian or CAU block. Nobody ever gave me the option of saying "CAU but paler than a Pakistani". Now of course the Times couldn't say "Most of the girls were Caucasians, as were the rapists"; that wouldn't sell papers. But if the press can invent a "White Hispanic" category, surely they can do better than this!
I read this book recently about a young woman who was sex-trafficked in Dearborn MI. http://www.amazon.com/Slave-Across-Street-Theresa-Flores-ebook/dp/B0034KYZQ8/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1
It made quite an impression on me (although not particularly well written). But in reading the Times article, the similarities were absolutely uncanny (and her book was written in 2010). This is going on here today as well.
One thing not mentioned at all is that Islam portrays non Muslims as kafirs - infidels/unbelievers who are unclean, dirty, below them, and to whom basic human rights do not extend. So the Muslims preying on non Muslims is a KEY element of this situation, but one that is never mentioned.
FullMoon said...
cubanbob said...
Back in the day these officials would have been the guests of honor at a neck tie party. The men of Rotherham should revive that tradition for this particularly vile group of officials. For the encouragement of the others.
So, BoB, you encourage lynching the dark skinned "Asians"? You and Birkle should team up and dole out some good ol' 'merican justice. "
You have a reading comprehension problem, the party honorees I referred to should the government officials who deliberately turned a blind eye. The ones who knowingly let this happen. You have a problem with that?
Had a Mom here in Ca. who used a little bitty gun to publicly perforate the man who sexually abused her son. The man died right there in the courtroom. She died in prison.
EVERYBODY was on her side, even the jurors."
Similar event in a more civilized state occurred and the parent was acquitted.
Where is rhhardin in this thread? For example.
cubanbob said...
FullMoon said...
cubanbob said...
Back in the day these officials would have been the guests of honor at a neck tie party. The men of Rotherham should revive that tradition for this particularly vile group of officials. For the encouragement of the others.
So, BoB, you encourage lynching the dark skinned "Asians"? You and Birkle should team up and dole out some good ol' 'merican justice. "
You have a reading comprehension problem, the party honorees I referred to should the government officials who deliberately turned a blind eye. The ones who knowingly let this happen. You have a problem with that?
Apologies, mon ami.I foolishly assumed you suggested lynching the rapists and meting out some of that "if it was me I woulda..."street justice. You know what I mean, the kind of violent revenge you have doled out"back in the day".
Instead, you would hang the ones who knowingly let this happen.
Hows about we hang 'em all and let God sort 'em out? You got a problem with that?
I am defeated. First Birkel becomes fixated on my prick, then you suck me into a tit for tat.
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