"Senior administration officials said they were unaware of any proposal by a Pentagon unit to offer Siddiqui's freedom as part of hostage negotiations."
Right hand, say hello to left hand. Try to keep in contact after this.
"Why would a terrorist planning mass killings try to kill somebody? This is not the action of a peace-loving cyanide courier."
Ummm...rather, why would a suspected terrorist being held for interrogation be left in a room where a firearm has been "left on a table?"
They shot her and they had to justify why they shot her.
I don't know if she is the terrorist she is alleged to be--perhaps she is--but I don't believe for a second she was left in a room with access to an unattended firearm.
Was anyone named to whom the firearm belonged? Was this person reprimanded or punished for leaving his or her firearm unattended, thereby putting everyone in the vicinity in grave peril?
Cook, You know they take firearms away from police officers when they enter jails, right? If you read the story, there was a curtain dividing the room, and one member of the interrogation team didn't realize she was on the other side. He leaned his carbine against the wall, and she saw it and grabbed it. Since you know it's not true, perpaps you can tell us what really happened?
"Cook, You know they take firearms away from police officers when they enter jails, right? If you read the story, there was a curtain dividing the room, and one member of the interrogation team didn't realize she was on the other side. He leaned his carbine against the wall, and she saw it and grabbed it. Since you know it's not true, perpaps you can tell us what really happened?"
I don't know what happened, but I call bullshit. If she was allegedly a high-ranking terrorist and they had her in detention for questioning, why was she not restrained? How could she have been free to grab a weapon "laid on the floor" on the other side of a curtain? The story is less convincing than the standard lies police departments tell about their various abuses and killings of suspects in their custody. They shot her and needed an excuse to explain why they shot her.
There are other stories available that purport to tell alternate stories of what happened. Do you want me to provide a couple of links? Would it serve any purpose? Would you give any credence to any story that deviated from the official story? Can we know these alternative sources are more accurate than "official" sources?
(We can't, but given the ceaseless lies told by our government--as by all governments--and given their wholesale violation of our civil liberties in their mass spying on all us, I'm inclined to view the everything to do with the "official" story with great skepticism, and to consider in particular the claim she grabbed an unattended weapon and started shooting to be utter bullshit.)
You are free to disagree with me, as you wish. That doesn't concern me.
To the contrary, given our knowledge of the government's lies and violations of the law and of the constitution, any trust in anything they say is baseless--absent evidence (made available for our appraisal) sufficient to erase reasonable doubt.
The reasonable person's default position must be: they're lying to us.
"I don't know if she is the terrorist she is alleged to be--perhaps she is--but I don't believe for a second she was left in a room with access to an unattended firearm."
In this age of Obama, all government officials seem to have gotten 50% stupider and 90% more dishonest.
And all of Lois Lerner's emails are gone. We pinky-swear it.
"In this age of Obama, all government officials seem to have gotten 50% stupider and 90% more dishonest."
I'll grant you the increase in stupidity and dishonesty, but I don't single out Obama as the reason...this is the result of many years of increasing corruption of the system by the financial elites.
For every journalist they kill of we should waterboard her 50 times. still wouldn't come close to that act, but at least we could get the usual crowd making arguments about how we were no better than they were. Despite the fact hat the worse we did was what we do to SERE cadets, and the worse they did is something out of the middle ages.
cook: "Doesn't sound any more believable now than the first time I heard this allegation."
Would it sound more believable if we had George W Bush hopping an SR-71 over to the interrogation site and placing a weapon on the table before sneaking back to his plane and returning home?
Robert Cook: "I'll grant you the increase in stupidity and dishonesty, but I don't single out Obama as the reason...this is the result of many years of increasing corruption of the system by the financial elites."
The increase in corruption is directly related to the increasing scope and power of the Federal Gov't, of which you approve.
"Cook: 'Do you want me to provide a couple of links?'
"You could simply have provided the links without asking the question."
It seemed redundant to me to to do so, unless asked, as:
a)anyone interested in the subject, as I assumed DanTheMan was, could have found those other versions easily, or already had, (as DanTheMan acknowledged he had).
b)the alternate reporting of Aafia Siddiqui's arrest and prosecution does not offer irrefutable evidence, so anyone inclined to reject a variant view most likely would reject it.
If you are interested in reading an alternate account, you're certainly capable of finding the necessary links.
Thus, the muslim terrorist is in the right for certainly the Americans, per usual, are in the wrong."
I don't know if she is or is not actually a Muslim terrorist; I call bullshit on the story that a soldier laid his weapon down on the ground next to a curtain behind which, unknown to him, lurked a suspected terrorist, unrestrained and apparently unguarded, who suddenly grabbed the weapon and started firing, requiring they shoot her.
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When FBI and military officials tried to question Siddiqui, she grabbed a weapon left on the table in her interrogation room and fired upon them.
Sounds like she has spunk. And U.S. officials, as usual, have stupid.
Hmmm...a "weapon left on the table in her interrogation room...."
Doesn't sound any more believable now than the first time I heard this allegation.
I'm in favor of letting her go.
All we need to negotiate now is the altitude.
Nastier than the Leopard for sure...
They all want her, send each of them a piece.
"Senior administration officials said they were unaware of any proposal by a Pentagon unit to offer Siddiqui's freedom as part of hostage negotiations."
Right hand, say hello to left hand. Try to keep in contact after this.
I'm with Cookie. Why would a terrorist planning mass killings try to kill somebody?
This is not the action of a peace-loving cyanide courier.
Seeing Red said...
They all want her, send each of them a piece.
...wrapped in bacon.
"Why would a terrorist planning mass killings try to kill somebody? This is not the action of a peace-loving cyanide courier."
Ummm...rather, why would a suspected terrorist being held for interrogation be left in a room where a firearm has been "left on a table?"
They shot her and they had to justify why they shot her.
I don't know if she is the terrorist she is alleged to be--perhaps she is--but I don't believe for a second she was left in a room with access to an unattended firearm.
Was anyone named to whom the firearm belonged? Was this person reprimanded or punished for leaving his or her firearm unattended, thereby putting everyone in the vicinity in grave peril?
It's bullshit.
Cook,
You know they take firearms away from police officers when they enter jails, right?
If you read the story, there was a curtain dividing the room, and one member of the interrogation team didn't realize she was on the other side. He leaned his carbine against the wall, and she saw it and grabbed it.
Since you know it's not true, perpaps you can tell us what really happened?
"Cook,
You know they take firearms away from police officers when they enter jails, right?
If you read the story, there was a curtain dividing the room, and one member of the interrogation team didn't realize she was on the other side. He leaned his carbine against the wall, and she saw it and grabbed it.
Since you know it's not true, perpaps you can tell us what really happened?"
I don't know what happened, but I call bullshit. If she was allegedly a high-ranking terrorist and they had her in detention for questioning, why was she not restrained? How could she have been free to grab a weapon "laid on the floor" on the other side of a curtain? The story is less convincing than the standard lies police departments tell about their various abuses and killings of suspects in their custody. They shot her and needed an excuse to explain why they shot her.
There are other stories available that purport to tell alternate stories of what happened. Do you want me to provide a couple of links? Would it serve any purpose? Would you give any credence to any story that deviated from the official story? Can we know these alternative sources are more accurate than "official" sources?
(We can't, but given the ceaseless lies told by our government--as by all governments--and given their wholesale violation of our civil liberties in their mass spying on all us, I'm inclined to view the everything to do with the "official" story with great skepticism, and to consider in particular the claim she grabbed an unattended weapon and started shooting to be utter bullshit.)
You are free to disagree with me, as you wish. That doesn't concern me.
>>I don't know what happened, but I call bullshit
Exactly. No facts, but an opinion.
I don't know what happened, either. Which, by definition, means the story could be BS, yes. But maybe not. I've read the others, too....
Your certainty is baseless.
"Your certainty is baseless."
To the contrary, given our knowledge of the government's lies and violations of the law and of the constitution, any trust in anything they say is baseless--absent evidence (made available for our appraisal) sufficient to erase reasonable doubt.
The reasonable person's default position must be: they're lying to us.
"I don't know if she is the terrorist she is alleged to be--perhaps she is--but I don't believe for a second she was left in a room with access to an unattended firearm."
In this age of Obama, all government officials seem to have gotten 50% stupider and 90% more dishonest.
And all of Lois Lerner's emails are gone. We pinky-swear it.
"In this age of Obama, all government officials seem to have gotten 50% stupider and 90% more dishonest."
I'll grant you the increase in stupidity and dishonesty, but I don't single out Obama as the reason...this is the result of many years of increasing corruption of the system by the financial elites.
Lets send her back to them with a bomb inside of her.
For every journalist they kill of we should waterboard her 50 times. still wouldn't come close to that act, but at least we could get the usual crowd making arguments about how we were no better than they were. Despite the fact hat the worse we did was what we do to SERE cadets, and the worse they did is something out of the middle ages.
Why does every jihadi group want the U.S. to free Aafia Siddiqui?
Perhaps because she's the best they have science-wise. She's either awfully good at what she does or the terrorists are pretty desperate.
cook: "Doesn't sound any more believable now than the first time I heard this allegation."
Would it sound more believable if we had George W Bush hopping an SR-71 over to the interrogation site and placing a weapon on the table before sneaking back to his plane and returning home?
You know, 'cuz "plausibility".
Robert Cook: "I'll grant you the increase in stupidity and dishonesty, but I don't single out Obama as the reason...this is the result of many years of increasing corruption of the system by the financial elites."
The increase in corruption is directly related to the increasing scope and power of the Federal Gov't, of which you approve.
DantheMan: "Since you know it's not true, perpaps you can tell us what really happened?"
Cook: "I don't know what happened, but I call bullshit."
LOL
Cook knows that Americans are involved, and that a muslim terrorist is involved.
Thus, the muslim terrorist is in the right for certainly the Americans, per usual, are in the wrong.
Probably criminally so.
Cook: "Do you want me to provide a couple of links?"
You could simply have provided the links without asking the question.
You chose not to.
"Cook: 'Do you want me to provide a couple of links?'
"You could simply have provided the links without asking the question."
It seemed redundant to me to to do so, unless asked, as:
a)anyone interested in the subject, as I assumed DanTheMan was, could have found those other versions easily, or already had, (as DanTheMan acknowledged he had).
b)the alternate reporting of Aafia Siddiqui's arrest and prosecution does not offer irrefutable evidence, so anyone inclined to reject a variant view most likely would reject it.
If you are interested in reading an alternate account, you're certainly capable of finding the necessary links.
Thus, the muslim terrorist is in the right for certainly the Americans, per usual, are in the wrong."
I don't know if she is or is not actually a Muslim terrorist; I call bullshit on the story that a soldier laid his weapon down on the ground next to a curtain behind which, unknown to him, lurked a suspected terrorist, unrestrained and apparently unguarded, who suddenly grabbed the weapon and started firing, requiring they shoot her.
"...certainly the Americans, per usual, are in the wrong.
"Probably criminally so."
Hey, if the history fits...if past is prologue...if "all signs point to yes"....
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