Today's the day for weird logic. This is funny - but the difference is clear: A bomb in my luggage doesn't help me much if someone else brings one. I would be very glad to have a gun if there's a shooter in a Gun Free zone.
I remember, by the way, that in Israel one tended to see soldiers walking around carrying sub-machine guns. Made me feel safer. I think a large part of the problem here is the otherness of the gun-carrying people, in the eyes of most liberals. Who in his right mind can feel safe with backwoods yahoos waving their six-shooters?
"Today's the day for weird logic. This is funny - but the difference is clear: A bomb in my luggage doesn't help me much if someone else brings one. I would be very glad to have a gun if there's a shooter in a Gun Free zone."
I can never be sure what rhhardin is getting at but one idea is: Passenger A: Tell the pilot to take this plane to Cuba or I will blow it up! Passenger B: Tell the pilot that if this plane goes anyplace other than our scheduled destination I will detonate the bomb which I also brought.
Who can feel safe with Freder Fredersons waving their stupid ideas around?
To cadge Buckley, I'd rather be sentenced to a year roaming Dollywood with 200 backwoods yahoos waving their six-shooters, than have to sit through 1 dorm room bull session with Freder Frederson holding court.
I can never be sure what rhhardin is getting at...
What he is getting at is ( an intentional ) logical fallacy based on mis-use of statistics. If the odds are one-in-a-million that someone will bring a bomb onto your flight, then the odds are one-in-a-trillion that two different people will. So you can decrease the odds of someone else bringing on a bomb from one-in-a-million to one-in-a-trillion by bringing your own bomb.
The logical fallacy comes from the fact that, by choosing to bring a bomb on yourself, you've changed the odds of the first bomb to 100%, and therefore the odds of a second to one-in-a-million.
If we are talking statistics, then what must be kept in mind is that an abnormally large number of the mass shootings over the last decade or so have occurred in putative "gun free" zones. Maybe that is totally, coincidental, but I think a lot of people question that, given the numbers and that there is a logical reason why that might be true.
BTW - I am not talking about the regular shootings in Chicago that seem to be somewhat gang related, even when there are multiple victims, but rather, school and college shootings, the Aurora CO theater, etc.
@Bruce Hayden:If we are talking statistics, then what must be kept in mind is that an abnormally large number of the mass shootings over the last decade or so have occurred in putative "gun free" zones.
Of course, because they can act with impunity. Notice that those who don't kill themselves surrender to the first armed people who show up (the cops).
How many times have we read that the shooter had time to reload, sometimes more than once? That's when an armed victim could make all the difference.
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Today's the day for weird logic. This is funny - but the difference is clear: A bomb in my luggage doesn't help me much if someone else brings one. I would be very glad to have a gun if there's a shooter in a Gun Free zone.
I remember, by the way, that in Israel one tended to see soldiers walking around carrying sub-machine guns. Made me feel safer. I think a large part of the problem here is the otherness of the gun-carrying people, in the eyes of most liberals. Who in his right mind can feel safe with backwoods yahoos waving their six-shooters?
Archie Bunker's idea was to stop hijacking forever by giving each passenger a gun as they board the plane.
Who in his right mind can feel safe with backwoods yahoos waving their six-shooters?
Agree with you 100 percent.
Who can feel safe with a bunch of ghetto thugs waving their AK47s around?
Cheers
Who can feel safe with Freder Fredersons waving their stupid ideas around?
I rolled the dice 10 times and there's no six. Sixes are due! I'm doubling my bet...
Oh, wait, are sixes are on a losing streak? Should I reduce my bet?
Fckn math, how does it work?
Well-armed societies are polite societies.
Especially in gun-free zones.
"Today's the day for weird logic. This is funny - but the difference is clear: A bomb in my luggage doesn't help me much if someone else brings one. I would be very glad to have a gun if there's a shooter in a Gun Free zone."
I can never be sure what rhhardin is getting at but one idea is: Passenger A: Tell the pilot to take this plane to Cuba or I will blow it up! Passenger B: Tell the pilot that if this plane goes anyplace other than our scheduled destination I will detonate the bomb which I also brought.
Who can feel safe with Freder Fredersons waving their stupid ideas around?
To cadge Buckley, I'd rather be sentenced to a year roaming Dollywood with 200 backwoods yahoos waving their six-shooters, than have to sit through 1 dorm room bull session with Freder Frederson holding court.
dbp said...
I can never be sure what rhhardin is getting at...
What he is getting at is ( an intentional ) logical fallacy based on mis-use of statistics. If the odds are one-in-a-million that someone will bring a bomb onto your flight, then the odds are one-in-a-trillion that two different people will. So you can decrease the odds of someone else bringing on a bomb from one-in-a-million to one-in-a-trillion by bringing your own bomb.
The logical fallacy comes from the fact that, by choosing to bring a bomb on yourself, you've changed the odds of the first bomb to 100%, and therefore the odds of a second to one-in-a-million.
If we are talking statistics, then what must be kept in mind is that an abnormally large number of the mass shootings over the last decade or so have occurred in putative "gun free" zones. Maybe that is totally, coincidental, but I think a lot of people question that, given the numbers and that there is a logical reason why that might be true.
BTW - I am not talking about the regular shootings in Chicago that seem to be somewhat gang related, even when there are multiple victims, but rather, school and college shootings, the Aurora CO theater, etc.
@Bruce Hayden:If we are talking statistics, then what must be kept in mind is that an abnormally large number of the mass shootings over the last decade or so have occurred in putative "gun free" zones.
Of course, because they can act with impunity. Notice that those who don't kill themselves surrender to the first armed people who show up (the cops).
How many times have we read that the shooter had time to reload, sometimes more than once? That's when an armed victim could make all the difference.
Bruce,
" I am not talking about the regular shootings in Chicago that seem to be somewhat gang related"
Well, actually you are, since the entirety of Chicago is one vast "gun-free zone".
which reminds me - do you think ulysses grant carried when he was president (concealed, of course)?
sabeth.chu said...
which reminds me - do you think ulysses grant carried when he was president (concealed, of course)?
I Don't know, but Elanore Roosevelt did.
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