Althouse: Recall cam.

२० जानेवारी, २०१२

Recall cam.

High drama, in Wisconsin.

Lukewarm comedy.

७४ टिप्पण्या:

shiloh म्हणाले...: Hanging/Pregnant chads?; २०/१/१२, ९:१७ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: Deleted off topic stuff.

The cam shows nothing after hours.

The second link should go here.; २०/१/१२, ९:४६ PM
kjbe म्हणाले...: @RecallCam on twitter is a pretty good accompaniment (link is good, here).; २०/१/१२, ९:४७ PM
edutcher म्हणाले...: OK, better.

At least it's more enlightening than watching the Kardashians.

PS Sorry, Ann.; २०/१/१२, ९:५८ PM
Irene म्हणाले...: It's quite similar to the webcam that Happy Dogz daycare has installed to allow owners to watch how their pups interact socially.; २०/१/१२, १०:०० PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: As you all know, I am a GOP who voted for Obama in 2008. I was wrong I believed. I want Romney to be the nominee. But, the GOP is fraud, they will nominate Newt. I cannot vote for Newt. I just cannot even think about it. I could vote for Paul, but not Newt.

So, in 2012, I will once again vote for Obama.

I cannot vote for any man who abuses women like Clinton, Newt, and others.

I still am loyal to GOP but I have my limits. I cannot support hypocrisy.

The only thing "despicable" is Newt treatment of wife #1 and wife #2.

No one should vote for this fraud.; २०/१/१२, १०:०६ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Good. This is big, and with Wisconsin's recent history is should be watched and accountable. In the end, it will be a turn out race; Dane and Milwaukee Co.'s v Waukesha and Washington Co.'s. If it is honest, so be it, if not, expose it.; २०/१/१२, १०:०७ PM
Once written, twice... म्हणाले...: Happy Dogz is on topic but Newt being caught on webcam with a hanger giving his wife an abortion isn't?

I'm going to write Meade.; २०/१/१२, १०:०७ PM
Beer, Bicycles and the VRWC म्हणाले...: Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z; २०/१/१२, १०:१० PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: I hope to be verifying their work at a Victory Center soon.; २०/१/१२, १०:१२ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: I am pro-Walker. But here is my bet and prediction: Walker is recalled for this reason: Many of his reforms will stick as the norm, even if he is removed. The financial concessions are now realized and local communities will be stubborn to give that up in the future. Firefighters and Police are still exempt. Knowing this, Wisconsin will pick the "peace" as they have done between other cultural division. My best example are Wis Synod Lutheran v. Catholic, which was not so long ago. German and Irish is mixed blood, at peace; inside families.; २०/१/१२, १०:१४ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: I experience the division within my own SE Wisconsin family. The Senate is vulnerable but the House will be hard to take back, and the court. Even that first Dane Co pro-union candidate 'what's her name', is already putting out soft language about restoration of the concessions and the bargaining "rights".; २०/१/१२, १०:१७ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: So Walker will be removed, but his legacy as one of Wisconsin's great reformers will live on. Maybe not in LaFollette statuary glory, but in the healthy financial legacy he will leave the people he was elected to lead.

Because of the family divisions; this topic can not be discussed at gatherings; it's now become religion. This swing voters that voted for Walker, will see certain things realized, they are not as entrenched or as ideologically committed to Conservationism.

Swing voters is Wisconsin will give the Union/Dem/Left wing members of their families a concession, after gaining so much. In most Wisconsin Families, this dynamic exists.; २०/१/१२, १०:२५ PM
MadisonMan म्हणाले...: Thanks for linking to this.

I'm wondering if they have 3 shifts working. I'm wondering why the lady in the foreground now has pearls on. (Are they real?)

Oooh...a lefty has started working!; २०/१/१२, १०:२५ PM
madAsHell म्हणाले...: I thought it was the opening for a bad Saturday Night Live skit, and I was looking for Sarah Palin.; २०/१/१२, १०:२८ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: As the British expelled Churchill, a visionary, after the job was completed, so will Wisconsin do to Walker. Both accomplished their goals in an amazingly timely manner.; २०/१/१२, १०:३० PM
Bushman of the Kohlrabi म्हणाले...: America's Politico = Titus; २०/१/१२, १०:३५ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Wisconsin is unique financially is a few ways. Historically for one, even the Socialist Mayors of Milwaukee balanced budgets and made progress. During the Great Depression, Milwaukee was a rare American City the PAID ITS BILLS. Mayor Hoan as on the cover of Time for this accomplishment alone. But his kind of debt and deficit was not their vision of community health, so their Ideology is removed from their decedents.; २०/१/१२, १०:४१ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: All I'm saying is the cultural and family relationships, will matter. Wisconsin will sacrifice Walker, one man, for their love of the Packers, Beer, Raw Beef on Rye, Fishing, Deer Hunting, Venison Sausage, Bratwurst, Dart-Ball, the Dells, and...those things that bring the families peace. The swing voter will pick that. Not to Blame Walker; but the eternally unmovable side has been moved.; २०/१/१२, १०:४६ PM
Unknown म्हणाले...: Walker wins big. Big!

For months now he will be airing the ad that says -- say it with me now -- "I reduced the 3.6 billion dollar budget without raising taxes and without cutting services" (I like to say 'without laying off government employees or teachers' (like Doyle did).

The only problem is that so many people can't imagine being 3.6 billion in debt - until they look at Illinois.

Also, there will be wide spread horror when over 20 percent of the signatures turned in are challenged as fraudulent. The media will not cover this, but the blogospher - Thanks Ann -- will

His competitors?

Kathleen Falk? has multiple losses in state-wide elections. Mayor Barret? He doesn't want to run and will only if Obama twists his arm (again).

Peter Barca? A whiny excuse for a man - everybody's inadequate, childish brother-in-law.

Erfenbach? Wait till the pictures of him whooping it up at the Tilted Kilt in Rockford come out.

Big win.; २०/१/१२, १०:४७ PM
David म्हणाले...: Jobs!

See Wisconsin work.

Work, Cheeseheads, work.

See Cheesehead Dick work.

See Cheesehead Jane work.

Work, Dick, work.

Work, Jane, work.

Pay, taxpayers, pay.; २०/१/१२, १०:५३ PM
Jason म्हणाले...: If Kathleen Falk is the best the Dems can do, they stand no chance. None.

The Dems can only bitch about Walker for so long. In the end, they have to convince the non-union crowd that the candidate they put out is a better option. And with most everybody's property taxes staying the same or going down, with school districts now suddenly flush with cash, and municipalities now all of a sudden being able to balance their books without reductions in services, I fail to see what leg the Dems stand on. They cant attack Walker on any of those fronts.

I still laugh when I see the superintendent of Madison schools saying in a speech last February that he would have to lay off nearly 300 teachers if Walker's budget had passed. To this date, they havent laid off anyone. Hell, Tom Barrett used Walker's budget rules to cut Milwaukee's taxes considerably. The mileage Walker can get out of that alone is stunning...Walker's policies are a disaster, but the mayor of the biggest city in the state used them to save his city money and to balance his budget?

A few commercials about how bad the protests were, showing signs of Walker as Hitler or Walker in crosshairs, all of the "Shame" shit...in the end, its going to equal a victory for Walker as big or bigger than his 2010 spread.; २०/१/१२, ११:०८ PM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Watching Sconnies scan 2 million recall signatures is definitely hawt.; २०/१/१२, ११:३४ PM
Carnifex म्हणाले...: Dammit I missed it! Is there going to be a rerun, or a sequel?; २०/१/१२, ११:४९ PM
Palladian म्हणाले...: "Is there going to be a rerun?"

Isn't this whole stupid "recall" debacle a rerun of a legitimate election?; २१/१/१२, १२:०१ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Isn't this whole stupid "recall" debacle a rerun of a legitimate election?

I hope not!

We are Wisconsin.; २१/१/१२, १२:०८ AM
B म्हणाले...: Palladian said..."Isn't this whole stupid "recall" debacle a rerun of a legitimate election? "

Yep. It's a 'do over'. When my kids were very young they used to ask for do overs now and again when they didn't like some outcome.

Then they grew up. Not everyone does.; २१/१/१२, १२:४२ AM
Rusty म्हणाले...: Now it's 2 million?

Out of 4.5 million registered voters?

Statistically speaking..................comedy ensues.; २१/१/१२, ७:४० AM
Curious George म्हणाले...: After watching her announcement youtube, apparently Kathleen Falk thinks she is running for Governor of Madison.

By his comments garage does does too. Nobody tell him.; २१/१/१२, ७:४९ AM
Mazo Jeff म्हणाले...: WASTECAM or how to p--- away $10million that we don't have cam; २१/१/१२, ८:०९ AM
Joe Schmoe म्हणाले...: How many different spellings of 'Garage Mahal' do you think they're going to accept?; २१/१/१२, ८:११ AM
Wince म्हणाले...: Swing voters is Wisconsin will give the Union/Dem/Left wing members of their families a concession, after gaining so much. In most Wisconsin Families, this dynamic exists.

See the "Bradley Effect".; २१/१/१२, ८:१२ AM
Joe Schmoe म्हणाले...: The one woman in there right now must be a Democrat. They'd never let a Republican in there unsupervised.; २१/१/१२, ८:१४ AM
Phil 314 म्हणाले...: ERROR 404

Not warm and not funny.; २१/१/१२, ८:३७ AM
Phil 314 म्हणाले...: Recall cam needs drums, paper Mache heads and pizza boxes.

This is what democracy looks like?

This is what bureaucracy looks like.; २१/१/१२, ८:३९ AM
Curious George म्हणाले...: For Walker's sake I hope they get periodic breaks and a regularly scheduled lunch. We don't want anyone dying.

It's about life and death people.

Life. And. Death.; २१/१/१२, ८:५१ AM
Tyrone Slothrop म्हणाले...: I think I'll set up a webcam of me watching the recall count webcam. Meta-boring.; २१/१/१२, ८:५७ AM
Rusty म्हणाले...: Joe Schmoe said...
How many different spellings of 'Garage Mahal' do you think they're going to accept?

I'm betting everybody in my high school yearbook signed that petition.; २१/१/१२, ९:०९ AM
SomeoneHasToSayIt म्हणाले...: This whole exercise is despicable. It's as simple and as sad as that.

'Shame' on the people abusing the recall mechanism for poor-sport political ends. Shame on them. And shame on anyone who discusses this as if it isn't just shameful.; २१/१/१२, ९:१४ AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...: Democrat dream jobs. I hope those are union jobs.; २१/१/१२, ९:४१ AM
Toshstu म्हणाले...: Most are surfing the web, that guy in the ballcap seated next to the wall is cheating and the woman at the far left table is drunk.

Shouldn't they have been warned they'd be on cam?; २१/१/१२, ९:५६ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Historically for one, even the Socialist Mayors of Milwaukee balanced budgets and made progress. During the Great Depression, Milwaukee was a rare American City the PAID ITS BILLS.

It wasn't because they were socialists, it was because they were German. We Germans don't do debt.; २१/१/१२, १०:०४ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Wow, literally buried in signatures. Guess the people ain't happy.; २१/१/१२, १०:१० AM
shiloh म्हणाले...: "'Shame' on the people abusing the recall mechanism for poor-sport political ends. Shame on them. And shame on anyone who discusses this as if it isn't just shameful."

Your hyperbolic whining is duly noted and you are now eligible to be on Althouse's preferred conservative poster list. :-P

take care; २१/१/१२, १०:४९ AM
shiloh म्हणाले...: Speaking of whining and paranoia:

Scott Walker's Fundraising Pitch: 'Big Labor Bosses' Are Trying To 'Barge And Bully' Into Wisconsin

Be afraid, be very afraid! :D; २१/१/१२, ११:०४ AM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: shiloh said...
Speaking of whining and paranoia:

Scott Walker's Fundraising Pitch: 'Big Labor Bosses' Are Trying To 'Barge And Bully' Into Wisconsin

Hysterical.

Yes, the left never, ever campaigns on fear.

Ever.

Carry on, clown.; २१/१/१२, ११:०५ AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...: I hope the fraud counters are getting top notch tax payer funded benefits and an early retirement package.; २१/१/१२, ११:०७ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: So will Wisconsin become California, or Texas?

That the former is dying is not seen as a concern for Garage and the left.

Whether they believe it's true or not is immaterial; blue state economics eventually and always result in a fiscal death spiral (see Greece, Spain, Detroit).

Or maybe they don't really give a shit.

So is the left stupid, or evil?; २१/१/१२, ११:०७ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Scott Walker's Fundraising Pitch: 'Big Labor Bosses' Are Trying To 'Barge And Bully' Into Wisconsin

They think voters are as dumb as their base.; २१/१/१२, ११:०८ AM
Beer, Bicycles and the VRWC म्हणाले...: So, Garbage, er, Garage....give me a coherent argument why I should vote to recall the governor. What is in it for me. Then tell me who I should vote for and why.

Because I'm just one of the "stupid" base. Since you are FAR smarter, please tell me.; २१/१/१२, ११:१६ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: So will Wisconsin become California, or Texas?

Texas is definitely the goal.; २१/१/१२, ११:१७ AM
shiloh म्हणाले...: And please, let the Althouse conservative whining continue ...; २१/१/१२, ११:१७ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Great comeback, Garage.

So defend California, or Illinois, or New York, or Detroit.

Or tell us why "this time it'll be different", how the same old mix of lefty overspending and union over-reach will somehow result in economic growth in Wisconsin, where everywhere else it has caused state penury.

I'm all ears. I'm sure Krugman has a defense.

But no examples anywhere that it has worked.; २१/१/१२, ११:३३ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: This graph says it all Pogo.; २१/१/१२, ११:४३ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: BLS data
WI Total Nonfarm Employess
Nov 2007.....2885.5
Nov 2008.....2861.5
Nov 2009.....2725.1
Nov 2010.....2735.7
Nov 2011.....2740.2

Seriously , Garage, do you beleive the stuff you post?; २१/१/१२, १२:०३ PM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: It's like you think no one has ever figured out that people make bullshit graphs out of cherry-picked data before.

"Let's pick a one year window and ignore the past 10 years, and cut out seasonal variation, and the general economy and all that."

I mean, who's gonna notice?

Anyway, name me the blue state that's done it right. Just one.

or specifically why WI is different.; २१/१/१२, १२:०९ PM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Pogo
Look at the data since Walker's budget was passed in June. This is not a secret, it's in the goddamn papers every day. 6 straight months of job losses. The job gains under Walker took place under Doyle's budget.

Are you seriously surprised? Taking one billion dollars out of the economy leads to......? What did you think would happen?; २१/१/१२, १२:३२ PM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...
Pogo
Look at the data since Walker's budget was passed in June. This is not a secret, it's in the goddamn papers every day. 6 straight months of job losses. T

You support Obama's decision to deny the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline.

You also supported Obama's decision to stop offshore drilling.

Pretending you care about "jobs" is silly & obscene.

Taking one billion dollars out of the economy leads to......?

Yes, because government spending creates jobs!; २१/१/१२, १:०१ PM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: shiloh said...
And please, let the Althouse conservative whining continue ..

Go watch the Obama "secret billionaires" are conspiring against him campaign video and get back to us.; २१/१/१२, १:०३ PM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Jay knows he can't argue in favor of the Walker disaster, so he brings up Keystone. What a fucking dolt.; २१/१/१२, १:१४ PM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Obama stopped offshore drilling? Jesus Christ. LOL; २१/१/१२, १:१८ PM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: "Taking one billion dollars out of the economy leads to......? What did you think would happen?"

So you take $1B of state taxes away from the economy and WI employment increased in 2011 over 2009 and 2010.

But if you ignore seasonal variation and greater-than-one-year comparisons, you miss little things like that.; २१/१/१२, १:३८ PM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...
Obama stopped offshore drilling? Jesus Christ. LOL

I didn't say he stopped off shore drilling.

Idiot.

Example:
Pointing to the BP blowout and risks of a new environmental disaster, the Obama administration reversed itself Wednesday and promised not to pursue offshore drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico or anywhere else along the nation's East Coast.

Don't worry, you can't respond other than to try and argue against things that were never said or type "LOL"

Bozo.; २१/१/१२, १:४७ PM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...
Jay knows he can't argue in favor of the Walker disaster

There is no "Walker disaster"

Otherwise, "jobs" is just something you try and use in a political sense. You have not the slightest care about people actually working.; २१/१/१२, १:४८ PM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Oh, I see.

You actually believe that there's a multiplier effect in government spending.

Well, there is, but it's less than one.

Keynesians.
Dangerous morons.; २१/१/१२, १:४८ PM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: Mean to clarify that Obama didn't stop all offshore drilling.; २१/१/१२, १:४८ PM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...
Jay knows he can't argue in favor of the Walker disaster, so he brings up Keystone. What a fucking dolt.

You can't defend you support of Obama's decision to deny the permit for Keystone XL pipeline so you'll call names and pretend to care about "jobs!"; २१/१/१२, १:५१ PM
SomeoneHasToSayIt म्हणाले...: To "shiloh":

You used the word 'whining' incorrectly. But based on the context, you probably meant 'scolding', or 'admonishing', or 'opining', or even 'describing'. All of those would be appropriate. 'Whining' is not. Nor would be 'complaining' (I should know. I wrote the comment).

The English language is rich in choices. Strive for accuracy.

It just makes communication more difficult when someone willfully or ignorantly uses the wrong word, especially if it is done to mischaracterize the other person's words.; २१/१/१२, १:५५ PM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Keynesians.
Dangerous morons.

The only morons are those that think ALEC/Heritage/Club for Growth policies actually benefit people and create jobs. It's quite the opposite. As yo can clearly see in that graph.; २१/१/१२, २:१४ PM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...

The only morons are those that think ALEC/Heritage/Club for Growth policies actually benefit people and create jobs.

*GIGGLE*

Reagan's Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 slashed the top federal income tax from 70 percent to 50.
...
At the two-and-a-half-year mark (July 20, 1983) Gross Domestic Product under Reagan grew at 9.3 percent.
....
During the Reagan presidency, an average of 1.7 million jobs
per year were created

PS, Total jobs created in the 3 years(36 months) of the Obama economy are a negative 2,483,000.

Why don't you post more drivel?; २१/१/१२, २:२८ PM
TosaGuy म्हणाले...: "Taking one billion dollars out of the economy leads to......?"

Hiking my taxes to pay for union benefits limits how much I can spend in the economy. Your side is just mad because I get to spend my money instead of you guys getting to spend my money. Either way, the money gets spent in the economy.; २१/१/१२, ५:२२ PM
Rusty म्हणाले...: 6 straight months of job losses. The job gains under Walker took place under Doyle's budget.

According to the Wisconsin State Bureau of Labor Something or Other there has been an increase of 13,800 jobs in Wisconsin since Walker took office.
Telling lies isn't helping your case.; २१/१/१२, ७:२९ PM
Tyrone Slothrop म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...

Jay knows he can't argue in favor of the Walker disaster, so he brings up Keystone. What a fucking dolt.

Oh! God! garage, please stop! I am literally rolling on the floor laughing! You are the all time king, no, emperor, no, Intergalactic Grand Eminence of changing the subject when the one at hand doesn't suit you. Pot calling the kettle black is just not intense enough a metaphor to describe your hypocrisy! Jesus, I've got tears rolling down my cheeks!; २२/१/१२, २:२१ AM
Rusty म्हणाले...: Ann Althouse said...
Deleted off topic stuff.

The cam shows nothing after hours.

The second link should go here.

1/20/12 9:46 PM

Why, Ann?
Maybe some of us want to stop in every one in awhile to see if anybody has snuck in to cook the books. So to speak.; २२/१/१२, ८:४६ AM