(Laugh) The blue/red state map in the background is a little outdated, which surprises me because the Onion is usually pretty sharp with details like that.
Not only was Joe the Plumber not in the bracket that Obama plans to raise taxes on, but his family received welfare when he was a kid. Then he didn't pay taxes.
And no, there's nothing wrong with receiving welfare, there's just something wrong with receiving welfare and then bitching about all the taxes you're not paying that go to pay for things like welfare.
No, he did not. From his first question he said he was looking to buy a business that would make that much money. He never claimed he made that much now.
But it's great to know that you think the American people are so stupid that they have such a Pavlovian response to a tax cut that they ignore any other merits of a tax plan.
If my family relied on welfare when I was a kid, I wouldn't do too much bitching about taxes as a grownup, even if I were rich, which certain plumbers aren't.
There are lots of reasons to favor or oppose tax increases (or cuts, for that matter) that have nothing to do with public entitlements. For instance, if a particular tax increase sits on the wrong side of the Laffer curve, you'll actually reduce government revenues that could be used to fund such programs.
No, I was too busy chastising (a little) the professor for that.
The more People's joy over the victory of one man to the WH (appeals to me in the sense that) it will be more difficult for them to use race as an excuse not to achieve their dreams.
I expect those SAT scores and graduations rates to go up while unwed mothers and black on black crime to go down ;)
I thought the McCain campaign was pretty interesting to watch. And McCain is a more interesting person than Obama (although being 25 years older has a lot to do with this). Who is the last presidential candidate to list "of Human Bondage" as one of his favorite books?
His campaign was certainly erratic, as a reflection of the candidate himself, but never dull. Most of the national news had made it out to be worse than the Oakland Raiders organization, but that was extreme hyperbole.
It's hard to remind ourselves that McCain actually winning the Republican nomination is astonishing, and much more astonishing than Barack Obama beating Hillary Clinton or even Barack Obama winning the presidency.
Most of the Washington Republicans have hated McCain for a long time. In 2000, he had 4 Republican senators who were supporting him in the primaries against an inexperienced and average Texas governor. Ex ante and ex post, McCain would have been a much better President than W. or Gore and Kerry.
This primary season, he had 1 Republican senator supporting him until he clinched the nomination. Huckabee, Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson all canceled each other out in various ways allowing McCain to win.
Rumsfeld hates McCain; Cheney hates McCain. And Colin Powell, who likes McCain, hurt McCain.
I can't think of a less likely nominee from either party in the last 100 years. It would be like Joe Biden winning the Democrat nomination.
I didn't agree with any of Palin's politics or how she presented herself during the campaign. The pro America part of the country were a turn off, as well as the devisiveness of her speeches.
But as I have said I kind of liked her. She was fun to watch. She was cute, new, certainly interesting, and somewhat exotic-coming from Alaska.
I think the Mccain handlers did her a great disservice. She seemed to revel in her role but I thought the way they managed her was sad.
Now, some ex Mccain staff are spreading nasty stories about her which is think is really sad. Answering the door in a towel after a bath, not knowing if Africa is a country or a continent, more clothes shopping stories.
Leave her alone ex Mccain staff. If she was anyone's responsibility she was yours and she did work her ass off for you the past two months.
But it's great to know that you think the American people are so stupid that they have such a Pavlovian response to a tax cut that they ignore any other merits of a tax plan.
McCain came nowhere near winning the 2000 Republican nomination. W. got twice as many votes and won 43 states, including California and New York.
McCain's popularity was with independents, moderate Republicans, and moderate Democrats.
These people tend not to be those who make up much of the primary electorate, which is skewed toward the true believers in each party.
No doubt in a head-to-head genaerl election McCain would have beat Bush just like there's no doubt that in a head-to-head general election Hillary would have beat Obama.
I don't agree. I think the majority of the Obama vote was for the exoticness of the candidate, not for his platform. I think when he tries to implement his platform of raising taxes, then the s*it will hit the fan and we will hear about how he lied to them.
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I'm gonna miss that Tina Fey as Gov. Palin.
I'm surprised McCain's Brain doesn't have a label!
I'm far more concerned with this CNN report of Obama supporters now realizing how empty their real lives are:
Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters To Realize How Empty Their Lives Are
"... and in other news, the nation is preparing itself for an onslaught of bratty kids named "Barack"."
(Laugh) The blue/red state map in the background is a little outdated, which surprises me because the Onion is usually pretty sharp with details like that.
Well, weak close, but their debate videos were great.
Gotta love the Onion!
Not only was Joe the Plumber not in the bracket that Obama plans to raise taxes on, but his family received welfare when he was a kid. Then he didn't pay taxes.
John McCain's hero, ladies and gentlemen!
Not only was Joe the Plumber not in the bracket that Obama plans to raise taxes on
Did he ever claim he was? On the contrary, he always made it clear he wasn't there yet.
Idiot.
And no, there's nothing wrong with receiving welfare, there's just something wrong with receiving welfare and then bitching about all the taxes you're not paying that go to pay for things like welfare.
Did he ever claim he was?
Yes. That was how he came to national prominence. "You (Obama) want to raise my (Joe the Plumber's) taxes for being successful" or some such nonsense.
No, he did not. From his first question he said he was looking to buy a business that would make that much money. He never claimed he made that much now.
But it's great to know that you think the American people are so stupid that they have such a Pavlovian response to a tax cut that they ignore any other merits of a tax plan.
From his first question he said he was looking to buy a business that would make that much money.
Yeah I'm sure he's about to sign the papers.
It seems like Obama's real friends can't pass security clearance.
That's why he has to tap a bunch of Washinton insiders.
Look for the Obama WH to unrabel sooner rather than later.
Lem did you cry on election night?
Yeah I'm sure he's about to sign the papers.
Yeah and I'm sure you're still an idiot.
Oh and Doyle, any word on whether or not Martin Nesbitt, Obama's campaign treasurer, has paid his taxes yet?
Does Martin Nesbitt bitch about Obama's tax plan being "socialist"?
No, but if he's gonna support someone who wants to raise taxes, I think it's fair to expect him to pay them.
And Joe was a private citizen, not a campaign official.
Okay I hereby condemn Martin Nesbitt.
When's JTP's country album gonna drop, anyway?
Good for you. Now let's get back on topic shall we?
If my family relied on welfare when I was a kid, I wouldn't do too much bitching about taxes as a grownup, even if I were rich, which certain plumbers aren't.
Caption contest!
Well that's because you're a simpleton.
There are lots of reasons to favor or oppose tax increases (or cuts, for that matter) that have nothing to do with public entitlements. For instance, if a particular tax increase sits on the wrong side of the Laffer curve, you'll actually reduce government revenues that could be used to fund such programs.
The wrong side of the Laugher curve is believing in it.
Well, I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you don't understand basic mathematics.
Idiot.
Yeah and I'm sure you're still an idiot.
Well that's because you're a simpleton.
I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you don't understand basic mathematics.
Sometimes I get the feeling mcg doesn't think I'm very smart.
Ya think?
Well, I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you don't understand basic mathematics.
Happy reading!
So JTP was on welfare and now wants to become a community organizer. Very interesting.
Lem did you cry on election night?
No, I was too busy chastising (a little) the professor for that.
The more People's joy over the victory of one man to the WH (appeals to me in the sense that) it will be more difficult for them to use race as an excuse not to achieve their dreams.
I expect those SAT scores and graduations rates to go up while unwed mothers and black on black crime to go down ;)
I'll cry when that happens.
I thought the McCain campaign was pretty interesting to watch. And McCain is a more interesting person than Obama (although being 25 years older has a lot to do with this). Who is the last presidential candidate to list "of Human Bondage" as one of his favorite books?
His campaign was certainly erratic, as a reflection of the candidate himself, but never dull. Most of the national news had made it out to be worse than the Oakland Raiders organization, but that was extreme hyperbole.
It's hard to remind ourselves that McCain actually winning the Republican nomination is astonishing, and much more astonishing than Barack Obama beating Hillary Clinton or even Barack Obama winning the presidency.
Most of the Washington Republicans have hated McCain for a long time. In 2000, he had 4 Republican senators who were supporting him in the primaries against an inexperienced and average Texas governor. Ex ante and ex post, McCain would have been a much better President than W. or Gore and Kerry.
This primary season, he had 1 Republican senator supporting him until he clinched the nomination. Huckabee, Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson all canceled each other out in various ways allowing McCain to win.
Rumsfeld hates McCain; Cheney hates McCain. And Colin Powell, who likes McCain, hurt McCain.
I can't think of a less likely nominee from either party in the last 100 years. It would be like Joe Biden winning the Democrat nomination.
It's hard to remind ourselves that McCain actually winning the Republican nomination is astonishing
Probably because it's not astonishing. He was almost the nominee in 2000, and was one of the most if not the most popular Republican nationally.
If you ask me - people like McCain & Bob Dole hanged around too long.
Palin (for all her flaws) was like a breath of fresh air.
I didn't agree with any of Palin's politics or how she presented herself during the campaign. The pro America part of the country were a turn off, as well as the devisiveness of her speeches.
But as I have said I kind of liked her. She was fun to watch. She was cute, new, certainly interesting, and somewhat exotic-coming from Alaska.
I think the Mccain handlers did her a great disservice. She seemed to revel in her role but I thought the way they managed her was sad.
Now, some ex Mccain staff are spreading nasty stories about her which is think is really sad. Answering the door in a towel after a bath, not knowing if Africa is a country or a continent, more clothes shopping stories.
Leave her alone ex Mccain staff. If she was anyone's responsibility she was yours and she did work her ass off for you the past two months.
But it's great to know that you think the American people are so stupid that they have such a Pavlovian response to a tax cut that they ignore any other merits of a tax plan.
No, I think that was disproved on Tuesday night.
Doyle,
McCain came nowhere near winning the 2000 Republican nomination. W. got twice as many votes and won 43 states, including California and New York.
McCain's popularity was with independents, moderate Republicans, and moderate Democrats.
These people tend not to be those who make up much of the primary electorate, which is skewed toward the true believers in each party.
No doubt in a head-to-head genaerl election McCain would have beat Bush just like there's no doubt that in a head-to-head general election Hillary would have beat Obama.
Not as good as the previous episodes.
JAC,
I don't agree. I think the majority of the Obama vote was for the exoticness of the candidate, not for his platform. I think when he tries to implement his platform of raising taxes, then the s*it will hit the fan and we will hear about how he lied to them.
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