Say the editors of Salon, in "Goodbye from Salon/It has been an extraordinary privilege."
It seems to me Salon had a gigantic head start in on line magazine. Why didn't it take advantage of that?
Thirty-one years is a remarkable run, but what matters most is what happened during those years: the journalism, the ideas, the voices, the conversations and the community that grew around them. Salon helped demonstrate what digital journalism could be and could become.
Helped demonstrate... how? By negative example? Why aren't you out in front, where you started? Who outdid you and why?
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Sit long enough by the river and eventually the bodies of your enemies float by.
It sounded better when Wallace Hartley said it.
Salon was only online, right? How many online-only "journalism" outlets survived? Especially on the left, where the field was already saturated by the mainstream.
Seems most successful sites had an established hard copy version. (Sites that don't ever pretend to break news and just do opinion don't count.)
I thought the democrats had won.
What is going on here?
LOL
Somebody should bring back the original Wonkette Ana Marie Cox
I had a jolly good time in their online forum for a couple of years. I followed someone I knew at another outlet over there (only the fora; don't think I ever actually read anything).
After 9/11 -- when a lot of the people I knew were left of center, but liked anyway, went completely bat-sh*t crazy -- I petered out of it.
Actually, the person I followed over there, who seemed fairly normal, also ended up going completely bat-sh*t crazy. Sad.
Being a meme is not a business model. Usually.
IIRC Salon was the first "professional" webzine and was backed by Microsoft. Then they went bat-shit gay race communist around the time of the Clinton impeachment and they never went back to normal and I bailed. No great loss.
Every institution not explicitly right-wing eventually becomes left-wing.
Or something like that.
Maybe they would have survived if the did a better job picking topics for their content. Let's review of their important pieces from recent memory:
1. I'm a pedophile, but not a monster
2. Human-on-dolphin sex is not really that weird
The list could go on and on. We are all better off without Salon.
Very little journalism occurred at Salon.
Very little journalism occurred at Salon.
Salon once had an article normalizing pedophilia.
It's always fun listening to the left whine about pedos - when they really want to normalize it. Esp the ACLU.
"Sit long enough by the river and eventually the bodies of your enemies float by."
Awesome.
Salon has been sitting by the river watching more and more of their boomer subscribers float by.
""After careful consideration, we have reached the difficult decision that our publishing model is no longer" NEEDED. Go Dems!
Althouse blog killed Salon.
Trailblazer comes to the end of the trail.
Does anyone recall that while he was not there at the founding, Glenn Greenwald's journalism career was launched at Salon? I believe he'd had a blog on the side of his law career, but they were the first to pay him, IIRC, and helped launched him into the then-mainstream.
It was launched, I think, by a group of people from the San Francisco Examiner. Some of its focus wasn't surprising given its origin.
I'll miss the crazy deranged headlines from Salon.
It was all the articles about Venezuela's underage ketamine-dealers that gave them away, wasn't it?
I remember Salon in the early days, back when I was first clicking on websites, long before blogging. You read Salon and Slate, of course.
“Salon helped demonstrate what digital journalism could be and could become.”
If that lame redundancy is typical of their writing style, they’re a good example of how to become bankrupt.
“I remember Salon in the early days, back when I was first clicking on websites, long before blogging. You read Salon and Slate, of course.”
Some of us read The Onion, Madison’s own.
No longer sustainable? Did they ever make money?
Salon went public and even came out with a TV ad before the internet bubble broke. They were really big defenders of Bill Clinton in his last years in office, but I don't think anybody's heard from them or taken them seriously for the last 20 years.
Co-founder and sometime editor-in-chief David Talbot is the son of forgotten Hollywood actor Lyle Talbot. David's sister Margaret Talbot writes for the New Yorker. Hollywood kids -- who doesn't love them?
If they're winning, why are so many of their media outlets going out of business? Tossed aside like used condoms. Sadz.
"If they're winning, why are so many of their media outlets going out of business?"
When they all say the exact same thing at the exact same time, how many do you really need? Media outlets, deodorants- ask Bernie Sanders.
Generation X stoped reading it and Generatuon Z never heard of it.
Millennials aren’t a sustainable revenue stream.
What is really embarrassing is that they were so low they couldn’t even get a rich Democrat to buy them out for 30 million and “fold” them into an organization that was worth a damn.
"What is really embarrassing is that they were so low they couldn’t even get a rich Democrat to buy them out for 30 million..."
You'd think the "Learing Center" people could have thrown them a bone but Democrats don't get rich by helping people.
I'm seeing that Slate still exists; "I did know that." Sold 3-4 media/humor pieces to Salon back in '96-97. RIP
I just wanna know what's gone viral. Don't need no stinkin' wordy-word-wording for that.
Sharia uber alles.
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