16 అక్టోబర్, 2026
"Thank God we had him. Otherwise, it would have been much worse. It's a terrible thing, but thank goodness for a man that had a gun and knew how to use it."
Said President Trump, quoted in "Hero bystander who took down Oregon school shooter comes forward" (CBS News).
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Now the $64,000 question (s).
Was the 16 year old shooter trans?
Was the 16 year old using daddies gun?
Was the 16 year old 'on the police radar'?
Will the DA try to charge the CCW holder with entering a school with a gun?
The analysis will be interesting. I've read that it was his mother's shotgun, maybe a home defense weapon then? But a pump-action shotgun has limited shell capacity, maybe 5 or 6 unless the plug is removed but even then.... One for the car that he shot up, two for the locked entryway doors, five victims..... The dad's definitely a hero running in against a shotgun, I wonder what he was packing.
Good for the hero dad for killing this creep. Another wacko with a gun. I can only echo the comment upthread. Is this another loonie trans character? Or someone on "depression medicine"?
I grew up in a small town where everyone had a shotgun or a rifle. Either for self-defense or hunting. No violence. A kid got in a deadly shootout with a policeman 10 years before I graduated. So rare, people still talked about it.
Now, it seems like there's some young oddball trying to kill Kids - or the POTUS. Something is going on.
Again:
The left: Defund the police.
The left: You can only call the police.
The left: Take away your right to self defense.
This is course, hits home. Its one of "us". But never forget that 168 families in Iran are mourning their girls killed by Trump and the US military. And deaths from Israeli bombing and IDF war crimes are a daily occurance in Gaza and the West Bank.
Sorry to be the skunk at a garden party but that's what i feel.
Anyway, good for the Hero Dad. Lets walk on the sunny side of the street.
All things that are extremely valuable are protected with violence. It might be invisible to many, but all of them are. Thank God for Caleb.
"The dad's definitely a hero running in against a shotgun, I wonder what he was packing."
I hope it was an short-barreled AR with a binary trigger. This case will certainly ignite whatever the woke use for brains, so we might as well use gasoline mixed with C4,
No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
FortheloveofYIKES, this shit happens regularly everywhere.
Unfortunately, we can't be rid of vile trollery and topic hijacking with tomato juice.
"FortheloveofYIKES, this shit happens regularly everywhere."
If murders and mutilations can't be done with guns, it will be done with melon ballers.
We won't hear about this kid if he turns out to be a leftist or a trans.
The pablum of his preference hasn't been served up to him with a long-handled spoon, therefore he declares it never happens anywhere else.
Of course, we get the dumb libtard reaction. Like this was natural disaster or an earthquake. "Yes, isnt it sad. If only we didn't have guns".
We need to understand why all these school shooting are going on. And we need to stop them. This is abnormal.
First responder. Sempre fidelis.
This good Samaritan is a great man who saved many, many lives. The police were not going to stop the shooter. Most police departments still advise their officers to wait until four or five officers arrive before they enter a building together. Active shooter responses typically mean that a considerable period of time passes from the first 911 call until the police enter the building. Basically, the shooter is going to kill until he decides to commit suicide.
Too bad this sorta guy wasn't around in that school shooting in the Southwest. Forgot whether it was Texas or NM. The police were a bunch of scaredy cats and waited for hours while the shooter went around - unharmed - shooting kids.
In 1340, the murder rate in London has been estimated to be between 36 and 52 per 100,000. In York during the same decade, the rate lay between 60 and 110 per 100,000. Alcohol-fuel student brawls accounted for the difference. In the United States it was 6.6 per 100,000 last fiscal year.
Those medieval undergrads had no guns, but they had knives, clubs, and fists, just like Oxfordshire today. Nothing has changed in 700 years except law enforcement and the speed of spurious communications.
Planned personhood.
Trans? Sim, homo? Affirmation therapy? There is precedent.
"Was the 16 year old using daddies gun?"
If so, did the teen consider planned parenthoof to gain access? There is precedent, too, and affirmative action.
I just saw a picture of the shooter. Doesn't look like a trans this time. He was a former special ed kid at the elementary school and went back and shot up his old classroom. I don't want to read too much into one picture, but he was clearly not a happy kid. He looks very glum in the picture, which was posted on Facebook in September.
FortheloveofIce said, "No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"
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Interesting thought experiment. You seem like the type of person that wouldn't balk at receiving a blood transfusion or organ from anyone to save your life. What about bullets saving your life? Would you balk at whose gun it came from?
"The most concrete information about Griffin’s parents centers on his mother, who legally purchased the long gun he used. This detail has raised uncomfortable questions about how a teenager accessed a weapon that was ostensibly a birthday gift. Beyond this, the public record is sparse. Officials have not released the names or occupations of either parent, nor have they detailed the family’s history or any prior interactions with law enforcement or child welfare agencies."
https://houseandwhips.com/john-j-griffin-ii-parents/
"Forgot whether it was Texas or NM."
It's a bit early in the day to suck the stupid bottle to excess, is it not? Before commenting, why not use your device to learn precisely where that outrage happened? Along the way, you might discover additional facts that contradict your claims.
The mother of the shooter is Shauntai May Nickerson. Nickerson declined to say how her son had obtained the weapon.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/oregon-school-shooters-mother-shauntai-may-nickerson-says-son-was-a-good-boy-101792177070247-amp.html
Here's a picture of the mother and the shooter: https://pulptastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/srp-photo-layout-First-Photos-of-Oregon-School-Shooter-John-d1163356.jpg
Apparently a teacher (a woman) also tackled the shooter and tried get his gun, likely preventing more killings. A second hero(ine).
The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of children, so that Kid Rock can protect us from trannies by shooting Bud light cans with an AR.
-Fellow ammosexual gun fetishist
Uvalde Texas. That was it. Sad.
So, he had burdens of state and mind, resolved through his Choice. An immoral, but ethical and wicked solution.
"It's a bit early in the day to suck the stupid bottle to excess, is it not?"
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Next time the abortionist can use a scalpel or another bladed instrument that is popular in other nations. Perhaps a machete, and count, not the bodies, but tbe body parts. Planned personhood is a wicked solution. Immolation is also a popular Choice. Also, SUV, bats, acid, etc.
Good parents keep their guns away from the kids.
For the love of DD.
Kid Rock has an opinion that harms no one.
@Brylinski, geez - that some real Addams family imagery there.
Why isn’t every school protected by an armed guard?
Braver than the usually brave. Usually when a CCW holder saves lives like this he's already there and in danger himself with little choice, but this guy was outside driving by when he heard the shots. He chose to go into the building knowing there was a live shooter shooting and maybe more than one. The shooter had a 12 Gauge shotgun and was unlikely to miss if he got one off at you. My definition of heroic: choosing to risk likely serious harm to oneself to help others.
"Why isn’t every school protected by an armed guard?"
Like a police officer, maybe?
Parkland, Florida — February 14, 2018
During the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Peterson took a position outside the building where the gunman was killing students and staff. He did not enter the building to confront the shooter.
Uvalde, Texas — May 24, 2022
At Robb Elementary School, 19 children and two teachers were killed. Officers waited approximately 77 minutes from the arrival of the first officers until they confronted and killed the gunman.
"Why isn’t every school protected by an armed guard?"
They don't keep our money in a school. Banks have guards for the important stuff.
*The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of children,*
Would you prefer they be stabbed to death instead?
Or shorter... Peachy+2 @ 10/16/26, 5:15 PM
Not many men in teaching these days, but if there were, there would usually be one or more comfortable with firearms and willing to CC on the job. We would already have that If we really cared about kids more than feelings, or were just smarter.
So it was a .40 caliber the citizen responded with. And I'm seeing elsewhere that it was his car that was shot up outside the school, so it looks like his timing must have been perfect, if he was responding to hearing shots as he drove by. Maybe it was when the shooter was still outside, shooting his way in.
We need to make it clear who can kill children with impunity and under what circumstances.
This happened in a place with every possible gun restriction that gun haters want was already in place, including being a clear no-gun zone. The hero had to ignore the laws to save these kids. All those laws only prevented legal carriers but not murders from carrying guns there. Thank God this guy ignored them. The leftist laws would have even more kids killed that day, and some ass who likes that bargain jokes about the tree of liberty and children's blood like it's on somebody else's hands.
If he was shot at outside and pursued the shooter inside, that's even more impressive; I read that he had just left the school when he heard shots. The kid did shoot once outside and then blasted his way through locked doors to get in. Unlikely the guy saw him outside and didn't shoot him then. The shooter had already shot numerous times inside before the hero got to him.
DEIsm is derived from Critical Diversity Theory, class-disordered ideologies, or the bloc categorization of persons, people, too, assessed through minority reports. That said, self-defense is a human and legal right, not a rite practiced in privacy. # HateLovesAbortion
Sorry guys. These school shooting threads are so predictable.
"The leftist laws would have even more kids killed that day..."
Guess who else is okay with kids being killed, if it furthers their cause.
Self defense isn't brave - it's essential to survival and should be prepared for and automatic. Saving others when you could hide is nearly the opposite.
A hero volunteers to act through reconciliation in the best interests of others.
Very good job.
I'd rather have hegseth train the guy who stands guard at our kid's schools.
"Sorry guys. These school shooting threads are so predictable."
The shootings are mostly quite different in the details and responses. The only consistent thing seems to be motives, which usually are some form of butt hurt with the shooter. I think this is the first one with a CCW holder going in and ending it.
What about the mother who bought the gun for the kid?
Peachy+2 said...
"Good parents keep their guns away from the kids."
Depends on the kids. I grew up on guns that were kept on the rifle rack in the back room. Was into hunting and fishing by age 15. Deer hunting by age 16! First deer rifle was a old 7mm Mauser ex military rifle. First 'real' deer rifle was a Marlin 30/30 (age 16... got my first deer!)
But then I was never in a 'special needs' class nor had any anger issues. Oh,.. and I'm now 72! Had my CCW for over 30 years.
FortheloveofIce said...
"The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of children.."
UK has 'gun control' and even 'knife control' but they still have shootings and knifings (lots of knifings.) France same way now.
Our big problem is sick kids... real sick ones.
above: "our kid's Schools" = All schools.
Paul - these are different times.
I suggest, once again, that the solution (not perfect, of course) is that we allow the people to whom we trust the raising of our children to carry the weapons necessary to defend them.
Yes, teachers.
Those who are uncomfortable with carrying weapons (locked in safes in their classrooms) need not do so. Those who accept the responsibility can be required to be trained in the appropriate handling and security of the weapons in the school environment.
I believe that this has been the case in parts of Texas for a long time. (Not Uvalde).
If we can't trust teachers to defend our children, why do we allow them to have custody of our children for most of our children's lives?
When that tranny in TN shot up the school, it was indeed "so predictable."
But we weren't allowed to know the predictable truth.
Another hero and God bless him!
FortheloveofLice is predictably pathetic.
So that kid was drawing attention to himself firing at traffic on way to school!
"Apparently a teacher (a woman) also tackled the shooter and tried get his gun, likely preventing more killings. A second hero(ine)." She was the first. The good guy with a gun was the second. Apparently it took them both. We should celebrate both.
Uvalde, Texas, proved beyond all doubt that one cannot rely on law enforcement officers to muster up the courage to engage a school shoote, even when there are dozens of tbem. In 2018 a school resource officer in Great Mills HS in St. Mary’s County Maryland quickly engaged and stopped a school shooter, but in that same year the “Coward from Broward” hid outside the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School while Nikolas Cruz was killing students inside. Worse, it was later determined that the Sheriff’s Deputies assembled the surviving students in a courtyard overlooked by the building where Cruz committed the murders — and where he still was moving freely with his loaded rifle. Cruz testified that he tried to kill a few more of the students so carefully lined up for him by the Sheriff’s Department, but the hurricane-resistant windows resisted his bullets too.
Which is why we need and have concealed carry.
Hello, I'm a lover of "FortheloveofIce" but i pretend to be his opponent. snark, snark.
Of course there is no reasonable connection between this horrible event and the war in Gaza, so why would anyone choose to slip an undocumented accusation of "IDF war crimes" into the conversation? A propaganda campaign of accusations does not establish facts. See the comments of John Spenser on urban warfare: https://www.johnspenceronline.com/media
No, the IDF is not committing war crimes or a genocide no matter how many photos of injured children Hamas publishes. Imagine fighting a war by putting children in harms way. This is is the strategy of Hamas, a sick terrorist group which stores rockets and RPG's in children's bedrooms and playrooms.
Why do disturbed individuals such as the teenage killer attack innocent people and why do unbalanced people lie and obsessively target the state of Israel/the Jews? I think it's the same mentally diseased process but the only difference is in degree.
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I think this is the first one with a CCW holder going in and ending it.
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There have been others that were definitely a planned mass shooting interrupted by a CCW holder, like the guy with a pistol who made a 60-yard kill on a shooter in a shopping mall food court a few years ago. And there have been some where the shooter was known to be deranged and might have been planning to take as many with him as he could, but got dropped before more than one or two people fell victim to him, so it's hard to know if it was just a random criminal or something even worse. The media obviously is at great pains not to publicize any of these cases.
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The shooter had a 12 Gauge shotgun and was unlikely to miss if he got one off at you.
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So, a weapon that one can legally own in any of the 50 states, Britain, Canada, Australia, or even in Japan? I wonder what law the gun grabbers think they can get passed on the back of this.....
Boatbuilder,
> (locked in safes in their classrooms)
No. No no no no no.
The only reasonable place for a self defense weapon is on your person.
Yeah, Trump really needs to pardon this guy for violating the Gun Free School Zones Act, just in case there's a Dem administration (or an R who believes in an independent DOJ) before the statute of limitations expires. Unfortunately, Oregon has a Dem governor, so the dude is still exposed to state charges. I don't like the article's language about the hero 'pursuing' the shooter - raises the specter that it wasn't technically defense of others. Hey newsie: if the shooter is headed towards more victims, you aren't pursuing him; you're intercepting him. CC, JSM
It's been a long time since I called Oregon home, but I still trust a rural Oregon jury to do the right thing. If the state tries to move the trial to Portland or Eugene, though, watch out.
tcrosse said...
“We need to make it clear who can kill children with impunity and under what circumstances.”
Minnesota has an opinion on a use case: https://patch.com/minnesota/across-mn/tim-walz-repealed-mn-law-protecting-babies-born-after-failed-abortions
The father could not be reached for comment.
“The shooter had a 12 Gauge shotgun and was unlikely to miss if he got one off at you.”
You’d be surprised how easy it is to miss a large, relatively close, target with a 12 gauge. At a training exercise I saw an FBI agent miss with a shotgun while shooting at a target only 15 ft. away.
He's packin' balls, Aggie. Great big ones.
Worse - the corrupt left demand that we not only DEFUND THE POLICE - but the corrupt left seek to re-fill the police ranks with the loyal leftist soviet types like we are seeing in the woke UK. Speech crime police.
"Boatbuilder,
> (locked in safes in their classrooms)
No. No no no no no.
The only reasonable place for a self defense weapon is on your person."
I get it. But this is a school environment; lots of kids and lots of opportunities for problems. And a very tough sell to the public.
If potential killers know that there will be people in the school with access to guns, they will in most cases be deterred. The "gun-free zone" is also the "free killing spree zone."
Armed undercover skilled ex-military in our schools. Keep the mini-me rage fueled kids guessing. Rage fuel starts at home.
Peachy+2 said: “Armed undercover skilled ex-military in our schools.” This times however many schools there are in the U.S. Why hasn’t this been done?
" Why hasn’t this been done?"
The same reason Kamala got millions of votes, and Biden was sharp as a tack..
"Why hasn't this been done?"
Not members of the teachers union.
"It's been a long time since I called Oregon home, but I still trust a rural Oregon jury to do the right thing."
Bend is in Deschutes County. In 2024, the county voted for Kamala, 53.7% to 43.6%.
bagoh20 said...
Braver than the usually brave.
He had no choice really. He had 2 daughters in the school.
Imagine the scorn.
OT: I think the guy in the shot up truck was different, because he called 911. If they were the same guy, I think the 911 call would have ended with "I'm going in!"
Peachy+2 said: “Armed undercover skilled ex-military in our schools.” This times however many schools there are in the U.S. Why hasn’t this been done?
There have been a number of programs trying to make it easy to transition veterans into teachers, always fought by the unions.
Mason G said...
"It's been a long time since I called Oregon home, but I still trust a rural Oregon jury to do the right thing."
Bend is in Deschutes County. In 2024, the county voted for Kamala, 53.7% to 43.6%.
I live on the coast a few hours away. Bend in general has been Californicated by telecommuting Silicon Techies, but the underlying vibe is horses, cattle, rodeo, and guns. Hell, Sisters, a small town West of Bend, could be transplanted to Texas without either the residents or Texas noticing much, other than accents
I do not think teachers should carry unless they are already that type of gun owner. but even then - tis' a tricky deal.
The military trained provided undercover security/with a concealed gun - could be retired and in need of a job. Win win.
Serious background checks and all the things.
The left cannot find any funds to do it. But the corrupt left are happy to pimp leftist teacher's union and they/them bullcrap.
Peachy+2 said...
Armed undercover skilled ex-military in our schools. Keep the mini-me rage fueled kids guessing. Rage fuel starts at home.
Or they could do what my brother's church does. On a rotating basis 3 or 4 members are always carrying for every service. The minister never knows which 3 or 4. Only the people carrying know which others are carrying.
Leftists are only liberal up to a point. When it comes to protecting children they just don't care.
I have no idea why there isn't a school equivalent to the FFDO program.
Garden Valley, ID, about an hour north of Boise, has a very nice "Welcome To Garden Valley" sign, underneath which is this: "Our Teachers are Armed".
RCO: "This is course, hits home. Its one of "us". But never forget that 168 families in Iran are mourning their girls killed by Trump and the US military. And deaths from Israeli bombing and IDF war crimes are a daily occurance in Gaza and the West Bank."
Is there no thread you can't pollute with your Jew hatred?
Several questions:
Do you think the US targeted those girls on purpose?
How about the mourning of the relatives of 40,000 Iranians murdered by the regime last January?
Given the murderous Shariah supremacism of Hamas, and the 300 or so miles of tunnels underneath Gaza, neither of which you have ever fussed yourself with mentioning, what should Israel do?
Oh, and while you are at it, you need to learn what constitutes a war crime. Pro-tip, from someone who has first hand experience, only Jew Haters make the accusation.
"Is there no thread you can't pollute with your Jew hatred?"
That's a rhetorical question, right?
Rustygrommet - my old church did that. Excellent idea and in the idea as mine.
indeed- leftists don't care. They care more about the blame game afterwards.
Oh, so IDF Censorship brigade showed up. Complete with nobodies or sock puppets that have been on on Blogger since....October 2026. LOL.
Nobodies forcing anyone to read my comments. Normal people avoid what they dislike.
RCO: "Oh, so IDF Censorship brigade showed up. Complete with nobodies or sock puppets that have been on on Blogger since....October 2026. LOL."
How about playing the ball instead of the man.
Oh, I know why. You got nuffin.
Normal people don't pollute blog threads with vile, baseless, spew that normal people don't have to step around.
Peachy+2 said...
Rustygrommet - my old church did that. Excellent idea and in the idea as mine.
indeed- leftists don't care. They care more about the blame game afterwards.
They just assume the dead work for them. They drag the corpses through the street and declare, "Look what you've done!" Meanwhile millions of infant lives are flushed down the toilet and not a peep from them.
RCO Dos. War sucks. If your Palestinian(sic) heroes' didn't start somethin' there wouldn't be somethin.
Mueller
"but the underlying vibe is horses, cattle, rodeo, and guns."
I don't know Bend from personal experience, so I would have to trust your observation that Kamala Harris supporters would be okay with what Caleb did.
The number of children killed in school shootings is not all that different from the number killed by their own parents.
'....They just assume the dead work for them. They drag the corpses through the street and declare, "Look what you've done!" ...'
Well, the dead 𝓭𝓸 manage to vote some of the time, so....
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