October 2, 2026

"Dale Byrne, Carmel’s mayor, called the issue a matter of public safety. In an interview, he recalled an episode from July when he was visiting a friend’s home..."

"... and the man suddenly turned pale, losing consciousness. Mr. Byrne called 911 and tried to describe the location where the ambulance should arrive, but the dispatcher did not understand how to find the home without an address. He was transferred to another dispatcher, then another. 'He could have had a heart attack, and you’re asking me to explain how my street address works,' Mr. Byrne recalled."

From "After 110 Years, a California Coastal Village Yields to Street Numbers/Driven by emergency response needs, Carmel-by-the-Sea reluctantly adopted street address numbers this summer, igniting concerns over its vanishing identity as a beachside village" (NYT).

33 comments:

MadTownGuy said...

"...the dispatcher did not understand how to find the home without an address."

Maybe send a map pin? Leverage the technology.

gspencer said...

Carmel's a simple "coastal village."

Good one. Vegas is always looking for new comics.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

Street numbers or no street numbers, Carmel isn't what one pictures from the term "beachside village." It's a crowded tourist destination full of high-end boutiques, galleries, and cafes. It's a beautiful place, but if you want pastoral seaside villages, I'd recommend Wales.

Rabel said...

I'm relieved to see that they have a Hispanic guy up on the ladder putting up the new numbers.

CJinPA said...

Wonder what former mayor Clint Eastwood thinks.

n.n said...

GPS perchance local augmentation. Eyes forward.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

"I'm relieved to see that they have a Hispanic guy up on the ladder putting up the new numbers."

Thanks for the chuckle. Surprise works. Althouse did ask for material.

rehajm said...

one word: what3words

Iman said...

Carmel is one of our favorite getaways and we’ve never noticed the absence. Laughing about that with my wife right now…

RCOCEAN II said...

Carmel as a "Beachside village" LOL. Carmel has been owned by the super-rich for 30 years at least. It didn't take long for it to move from "Place for artists and beatniks" to a place for millionaires.

RCOCEAN II said...

When we visited in 2004, we were able to drive the 17-mile drive and gawk at Bing Crosby's "Beachside Cottage" next to Pebble beach or was it Cypress Point? Great place.

Mason G said...

Oh no! The super-rich! Probably some jews, too. More people to hate for RC.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Dale Byrne.

TIL David Byrne has a brother in racing.

RCOCEAN II said...

Mason G - on blogger since August 2026.

Mason G said...

You cracked the code. Kudos!

Mason G said...

Serious question, RC- why does it bother you when people comment about your jew-hatred? It's not like you're trying to hide it, you know.

Smilin' Jack said...

When you call 911 your phone should automatically transmit its GPS coordinates to the dispatcher. Is CarmelBTS caught in some 110-year-old time warp so they don’t know this?

Old and slow said...

My 100+ year old town in AZ has a screwed up postal system and I can't verify my address on the USPS database, so can't use my home address for opening brokerage accounts (among other things), and my house in Ireland has no address, just my name and the name of the township. I'm address less.

RCOCEAN II said...

Please use the comments forum to respond to the post. Don't fight with each other. Be substantive... or interesting... or funny.

Or at least address the topic. Which is NOT "jews" or me.

john mosby said...

Isn't the real question why Carmel bought off-the-shelf dispatch software rather than something crafted for their unique situation?

And/or why dispatchers and ambulance crews don't immediately know where so-and-so's house is? It's not that big of a place. CC, JSM

Dust Bunny Queen said...

In our rural communities. We didn't have street/house addresses until about 10 years ago when the 911 emergency services were being dispatched from a town about 60 miles away and they didn't even know where our area was located.. Previously you called local volunteer fire dept or sheriff substation. They either already knew you personally or you gave the name of the neighbors nearby. "I'm 3 houses from the corner of XYZ and ABC streets and my neighbor is Mr. Rogers. OR...if you were out of the little towns in the area. You had a Rural Route address and still needed directions. Past the Cheesehead Ranch on Lost Cow Road....fourth driveway on the east side.

And DON"T even try to find our house current house with an address entered into Google Maps or Google Earth. They show our property as the neighbor's house and our actual property, according to Google Maps, is a fishing tackle shop . (Google sucks!) As long as it is a driver who KNOWS us we will get our packages. Otherwise... our neighbors will get a bizarre order from Costco or Walmart or Amazon. Thankfully our neighboring properties are good about handing us wayward deliveries...and we do the same.. (and sometimes wonder about what in the world they are ordering....really Karen????)

john mosby said...

I have had frustrations trying to tell 911 dispatchers where something is, in cities with a grid system and an address on every building. E.g. in DC, an old lady who possibly broke or sprained her ankle in a pothole on a sidewalk next to her car. Do you give the address of the nearest house? Or does that make the ambulance think she's in the house? I believe I just gave the location as "midway in the nn-hundred block of 23rd St NW, on the west sidewalk," then described myself and said I would step into the street to flag them down, and everyone was happy.

I also ran (literally) across a lady who collapsed on her own run, on one of the perimeter sidewalks of Oz Park in Chicago. Not a huge park in the grand scheme of things, but still about a whole city block. I thought I was being ingenious by giving the address of the house directly across the street from us, but hoo boy, that threw the dispatcher into confusion.

The main problem is one-size-fits-all dispatch software that needs an address in that address field. But to defend the manufacturers, they usually also have a comment field. The dispatcher could put in all-caps "NOT IN THE HOUSE - OUTSIDE THE HOUSE." CC, JSM

john mosby said...

DBQ, those misdirected Adam and Eve packages could be the start of a more neighborly situation, iykwimaityd....CC, JSM

Peachy+2 said...

Rabel - LOL

paminwi said...

We were in Arlington, VA wanting to go to Arlington National Cemetery. Did a google map search from out hotel and it took us to the gate of the army base where, of course, if we could have legally entered the base, which could have found our way into the cemetary. The guard was great about giving correct directions as he did to 3 cars behind us.
So, no, GPS isn’t always spot on.

Gospace said...

There are undoubtedly still some pockets where a 911 numbering system hasn't yet been implemented. My town got it just before we moved here in 1997. The dirt roads in WV where my sister-in-law lives got numbered sometime in the 2000's. With some of the streets (traffic carrying paths?) getting names for the first time.

There are some areas which may never become part of the 911 numbering system because no ambulance or fire truck will ever get there. And the sheriff is iffy.

BTW, in my town if you live on Smith Street, there's likely a Smith family still living on the street. And Church Street still has a church, and River Road runs adjacent to a river.

I'm wondering how Google Maps and Apple Maps handle copyright errors. Our old Garmin GPS kept directing us to a road that didn't exist- not even as a path- that cut across a farm. Why was it there? Copyright protection. All (almost all) maps, and encyclopedias, and dictionaries, any reference book, has deliberate errors. "So, Mr. Jones, you claim all your work is original, and you didn't just copy our map?" "Why, yes I do!" "Could you explain Silver Lake on your map- which doesn't exist except on our map, inserted by our cartographers?

tim maguire said...

One would expect the 911 system to understand how addresses work in the towns under it's jurisdiction.

madison mike said...

In a somewhat related manner, I had a motor failure while driving through North Dakota's badlands on the interstate. I called AAA for a tow and they wanted my coordinates. ??? How would I know that? I said I was at milepost X but that wasn't useful, she said.

A passing cop called a towing service and I got a tow to a town w/o a repair shop for the night, followed the next day by a 69 mile tow to a dealer

NKP said...

I was once told that buildings on Tokyo streets are numbered in the order of origin.

JAORE said...

Mandate GPS chip implants for all. Problem solved.....
This problem anyway.

loudogblog said...

"I am not a number! I am a free man!" - Patrick McGoohan, from the TV series The Prisoner. Which also takes place in a small, quiet, seaside community.

loudogblog said...

john mosby said...
"Isn't the real question why Carmel bought off-the-shelf dispatch software rather than something crafted for their unique situation?"

I'd be willing to bet this is a "State of California" thing.

" The California Governor's Office of Emergency Services oversees statewide 911 funding, monitors compliance with state mandates, and sets technical standards under the Warren-911-Emergency Assistance Act." - Justia Law

"The state manages the overarching infrastructure and is transitioning California toward a centralized Next Generation 911 network." - Capital Weekly

Also, a lot of the commenters here are acting like you're a luddite if it's easier for you to find a house using a street address than a GPS coordinate. Well, good luck finding the location using only GPS if you have a situation where units are packed tightly together, like with office buildings, apartments or condos.

And there's this: "Physical obstacles, electronic signals, weather conditions, and intentional devices can all interfere with GPS signals." - GPS.gov

Addresses and physical maps don't have those problems.

Lazarus said...

Former Carmel mayor Clint Eastwood would have solved the problem in a civilized way -- i.e. one involving firearms.

This isn't the time to discuss the time I asked someone for directions in Carmel from a bicyclist who I now think was Dennis Hopper. He must have been gratified that someone didn't immediately recognize him -- if it was in fact him.

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