29 జూన్, 2026

Waiting on the Supreme Court.

Following the live chat at SCOTUSblog: "The cases still to be decided: birthright citizenship; the president’s power to fire the heads of independent agencies; the transgender athletes cases; two election law disputes; and whether a geofence warrant violated the 4th Amendment."

The full text of new opinions will be available here, at the Court's website.

ADDED: We have Watson v. RNC:  "The federal election-day statutes do not prevent Mississippi from counting absentee ballots postmarked by election day but received up to five days thereafter; nothing in the federal election-day statutes requires ballots to be received by election day." That's written by Justice Barrett and joined by the Chief and Justices Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson. Dissenting are Justices Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh.

Next is Chatrie v. United States: "Police officers conducted a Fourth Amendment search when they acquired Chatrie’s location data from Google because an individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy in his cell-phone location information. Justice Kagan writes the majority opinion, joined by the Chief and Justices Sotomayor, Kagan, Kavanaugh, and Jackson. Justice Gorsuch writes a concurring opinion, and Justice Alito has a dissent joined by Thomas and Barrett. From the Kagan opinion:

Consider just a few trips that a person is apt to think “indisputably private”: to “the psychiatrist, the plastic surgeon, the abortion clinic, the AIDS treatment center, the strip club, the criminal defense attorney, [or] the by-the-hour motel.” And unlike a GPS device, Location History enables police officers to focus on precisely those sites—to see, in a given time block, who shows up. Similarly, Location History—even two hours of it—allows officers to target one-off events of potential interest: a gun show, say, or a political rally....

From the Gorsuch concurrence:

I might have hoped that the Court would have pursued a more traditional approach to the Fourth Amendment today. But look carefully and you will see hints of it at work even in the Court’s opinion. Why is the Court so protective of Location History data, email, and electronically stored photos and calendars? Because, it turns out, “a user reasonably understands” all those things “as his own.” Put another way, they are his effects. And why does the Court hold Mr. Chatrie’s effects protected by the Fourth Amendment even though a third party stores them? Because, the Court says, those effects remain his “even though [they are] stored on Google’s servers.” Put another way, entrusting your effects to a third party for certain agreed purposes doesn’t mean they are no longer yours....

Now, we get the last opinions of the day, Cook and Slaughter, the cases about the President's power to fire heads of independent agencies. David Lat at SCOTUSblog: "In terms of their bottom lines at least, Slaughter and Cook came out as many expected. 'The Fed is different' carried the day."

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Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

Trump bragged of grabbing women by the pussy, walked in on undressed Miss Teen USA contestants, was found liable for sexual assaulting E. Jean Carroll, and was convicted of hiding payoffs to a porn star. Here's why the Epstein allegations are fake.

Ann Althouse చెప్పారు...

The court declined to take the case about Trump and E. Jean Carroll.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

@Mary Beth -- By all evidence, IEE is either paid to post by The TDS Party, or suffering from 'trollitis.'

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

@ Mary Beth: The Supreme Court declined to hear Trump’s appeal of the civil verdict that found him liable for sexually abusing and defaming writer E. Jean Carroll, leaving a $5 million judgment in place. (I try to respect the no thread jack policy)

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...
ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.
Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

IEE.
All of your list is thin, compared to what Democrats actually do.

The 'grab em by the pussy' comment is really old and not any proof of a crime.
E Jean BS - Stephanopolis(D) was sued successfully for falsely calming it was proof of rape. No such thing,. It was proof the E Jean can lie at will, and build a civil case and use it in NY / dem court. (Why did she never call the police?)
Rape is serious stuff.
The Epstein files have been released - over and over - and the left are still lying about it and not a peep about Bill Clinton in the hot tub.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

First ruling today is in Watson v. RNC. For a 5-4 majority (with Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch, Kavanaugh dissenting), Justice Barrett holds that federal law does *not* bar states from counting late-arriving mail-in ballots that are postmarked on or before Election Day.

RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...

I dont know what ACB - who's the new Grandma O'Connor - and Roberts were thinking. Maybe they saw the election law case as a chance to stick it to Trump or show they are "independent".

I don't see how anything is improved by allowing mail-in votes to be postmarked by election and counted 5-10-20 days after the election. The Alioto dissent states the problem clearly. The D justices voted that way to support the D party and voter fraud, why the 2 R justices joined them is anyone's guess.

RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...

Of course, all this could be corrected by passing the SAVE act but Thune doesn't want to do that. Because his job is to stop Trump from doing anything and to help the Democrats. Republican voters need to get smarter and stop sending lying liberals to congress with (R) after their names.

RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...

As for the cell-phone case, given the nature of the Police in 2026, giving them less power to violate privacy is a good thing. As stated, people have a right to not be tracked.

Aggie చెప్పారు...

The bank holds your money. Is it yours?

RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...

These opinions just reinforce my dislike of Kavanaugh and Goresuch. What grandstanders. These guys always have to write concurring opinions, or agree with only PART of a dissent or a majority opinion.

And their "Special" opinions are always trying to fuzz things up or add nothing.

MadTownGuy చెప్పారు...

I thought it was "slaughter," then "cook."

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...
ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

The Slaughter ruling blocks Trump from sacking Fed governor Lisa Cook.

OTOH -- there's no sugar-coating Slaughter. It's an enormously important ruling (far more important than the other three decisions handed down today). It's a huge win for the executive. And it's going to have massive ramifications for the functioning of the government long after Trump is gone. Does it essentially mean that the entire executive branch will be hollowed out every time the presidency switches parties?

RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...

In the Fed Reserve case, Kavanaugh is just being a Good Bushie, a heir to Kennedy. Like Roberts, he wants the Courts to stop Trump from doing anything the uniparty doesn't like. Which includes firing Fed Reserve Governors.

Of course, the opinion doesnt make sense. Why shoudn't Trump be able to fire for cause? The majority just blathers about Banks being different. Because they want it to be different. Cause the uniparty wants the Fed to be above the elected Representatives. Just like the federal courts.

Spiros చెప్పారు...

The Constitution establishes Election Day and Congress later formalized the date as the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. The law was meant to standardize the timing of elections across all states. Doesn't seem like there's much wiggle room here for ballots received after Election Day.

I think Barrett is using contract law instead of constitutional law. Her decision is something like the "Mailbox Rule" in contract law -- an acceptance of an offer is legally binding the moment you send it (not when the other party receives it). So the mail in ballot is good the moment it gets dumped in the mail (likely by a ballot harvester or some other fraudster)?

Lem Vibe Bandit చెప్పారు...

Trump lost his bid to have that woman accusing him of …a four letter word. The 5 million judgment remains in effect.

FormerLawClerk చెప్పారు...

@rcocean, who wrote: 'I don't see how anything is improved by allowing mail-in votes to be postmarked by election and counted 5-10-20 days after the election."

Ballots CAST prior to the end of the election should be counted regardless of when they were collected (within some reasonable amount of time ... say 7 days).

However NO BALLOT should be counted until ALL BALLOTS are received. This eliminates the ability for one side or the other to know how many fake ballots they need to manufacture in order to win.

Of course, no law in the United States follows this principle and that's how you know our elections are FAKE and RIGGED.

DINKY DAU 45 చెప్పారు...

5 million chump change, the real payout 83 million because he couldn't keep from what the court said was defamation,Still to be decided on being heard, probably go same way and he will never pay, like the common serfs down here would have their assets garnished. Ah its good to be King!

Vance చెప్పారు...

Remember folks. Indef prefers Keir Starmer and his unlimited immigration of Muslims raping and murdering hundreds of thousands of women and young girls. Over "icky Trump!"

ChrisC చెప్పారు...

Heavy, heavy pressure needs to be applied to RINO assholes on the SAVE act -

From the Election case opinion- “nothing in the federal election-day statutes requires ballots to be received by election day."

Shouting Thomas చెప్పారు...

Kagan certainly has a strong range itinerary.

Shouting Thomas చెప్పారు...

That should be strange. Thank you, AutoCorrect

rehajm చెప్పారు...

Did I read it wrong and they did not determine if executive can for cause?

Spiros చెప్పారు...

No birthright citizenship case today. I think Trump might lose that one. It's hard to just dismiss the "subject to the jurisdiction" part of the Citizenship Clause. But that clause was meant to exclude from citizenship most members of Native
American tribes (people obviously born in the United States). The Citizenship Clause also refers to the families of ambassadors. The only way to read this part of the Clause is that it seems like children of aliens were covered by the Citizenship Clause and are citizens unless they were part of diplomatic families. Also the drafters of 14th Amendment absolutely were aware of Chinese immigrants
on the West Coast in the 1860s and could have excluded U.S.-born children of aliens explicitly if they wanted.

But I hope the Supreme Court does the right thing and punts to Congress. The policy implications of a broad reading of the Citizenship Clause have changed substantially since ratification. We're not talking about a hundred thousand Chinese migrants. We're talking tens of millions and potentially hundreds of millions of migrants from the Global South. Citizenship, along with welfare and affirmative action, is a massive, powerful incentive to illegally cross the border and it is something that we should not be forced to tolerate.

rehajm చెప్పారు...

In terms of their bottom lines at least, Slaughter and Cook came out as many expected

…ah yes, Scooby and Shaggy knew the result all along! So enjoy your Monday victory over Trump. May I suggest on Tuesday you make amends for your lack of a smug IKnewItAllTheTime every time we waste the government’s time and the taxpayer money every time we have to reverse the fantasy/political based spitballing of Hawaiian judges? I will not negate the less I think if you but you might swing an aisle seat in Hell…

rcommal చెప్పారు...

Momentous day, any way you slice it.

Leland చెప్పారు...

If “Myer’s” is the “best word” from the court on the President’s Executive Power, then it seems to fail when applied to the Fed.

WisRich చెప్పారు...

To me, Alito's dissent on Watson is spot on.

n.n చెప్పారు...

Democracy will be declared at the time and place of our choosing. #NoKings

J Scott చెప్పారు...

Terrible day for our fascist leader.

Mary Beth చెప్పారు...

Thank you for the explanation of the first post. How many cases does the Supreme Court decline to review? Hundreds?Thousands?

DINKY DAU 45 చెప్పారు...

So far trump has lost LISA COOK case, E jean Carroll CASE(WITH PART 11 RIGHT BEHIND THIS ONE) mail in ballot case and the 300 million dershowitz case was refused t be revived( trump did win slaughter case as SCOTUS sets new precedent from the bench)next up BIRTHRITE CASE should be rejected at minimum 7-2..still waiting on 83 million dollar e jean carroll defamation case SCOTUS most likely refuse to hear. trump really wanted MAIL IN BALLOT AND FED FIRINGS BUT HE CLAIMS THE slaughter cse is best thing since sliced bread. (kind of like the 45000 people at the TRUMP FAIR , ALWAYS DELUSIONAL)

n.n చెప్పారు...
ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.
n.n చెప్పారు...

Birthing demos-cracy will be indefinitely delayed as it is privately aborted in darkness.

n.n చెప్పారు...

Allegations are assumed true when they do not pose an inordinate inconvenience to sociopolitical club.

Vance చెప్పారు...

Dinky, of course, wants to ship far more 13 year old girls to Bill Clinton, because when D's do it, it's great!

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

Re: Slaughter
At the most basic level, both decisions conformed to the interests of wealthy donors.

SCOTUSblog has a more sophisticated analysis, which raises the question.

e.g. why in one case does Congress's will need to be respected, and why in another case, does a novel legal theory (the "unitary executive") over-ride legally mandated restriction on executive authority?

The way that the Court rationalizes the difference is that the Federal Reserve is a quasi-federal agency that sits outside of the executive branch.

So basically 5-4 they said "the Fed is too important to touch" but 6-3 they said "have at almost any other federal agency." That'll have downstream implications.

Mason G చెప్పారు...

"nothing in the federal election-day statutes requires ballots to be received by election day."

This is a load of crap. You haven't voted until your ballot has been accepted by polling officials. If election day comes and goes and your ballot hasn't been received, you didn't vote. Simple as that. It doesn't matter by what method you didn't vote- not mailing your ballot or not getting to the polling place in time- either one means you didn't vote.

People want to count votes "received" after election day because, in order to cheat, you have to know how many votes you need to "find". Simple as that.

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

"The Fed is different"

I'm not real smart about law stuff, so can someone tell me where it says that in The Constitution or anywhere?

tim maguire చెప్పారు...

People can control when they put their ballot in the mail, but they cannot control when it is delivered.

So it is perfectly reasonable, in a world where mail-in ballots are legal, for the key date to be the day it is mailed, not the day it is received.

Mason G చెప్పారు...

"People can control when they put their ballot in the mail, but they cannot control when it is delivered."

Why are people who mail their ballots in not responsible for when it's received but people who vote in person are?

John henry చెప్పారు...

Donald Trump could probably find enough in his sofa cushions to pay off Carroll. On the other hand, she is 82 years old, can't have that much longer to live.

He can run her around a bit more, make her spend more in legal fees, then pay off her heirs. He can threaten them with years more lawsuits or negotiate a settlement.

I doubt that the money makes a difference to DJT, I would just like to seem him wait her out and make sure she never sees a penny.

John Henry

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

A President can nominate the Fed Board of Governor members, and Chairman and Vice-Chairman, but a President can't fire them? Where does the constitution allow for this fourth, very powerful branch, of gov't? Basically this means the voters can't fire a member of the Fed.

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

"So it is perfectly reasonable, in a world where mail-in ballots are legal, for the key date to be the day it is mailed, not the day it is received."

I could accept this if government employees could be trusted, and post marks were a secure thing other than just some ink on paper placed there by unseen people.

This is only a part of the problem, which fraudsters will get around anyway. The real issue is who is actually voting on mail in ballots. Only a fool would believe it's always a legal voter voting once. The liars who say they believe that only believe it because it helps their party and hurts the other. The party that supports fraud by fighting election security does not deserve your vote for that reason alone.

jim5301 చెప్పారు...

Re Slaughter, the Constitution may give the President the power to dismiss all members of federal agencies without cause, but I don't think it is good for country. It eliminates debate on key decisions. It removes expertise. It means every four or eight years there will be a 180 degree change in policy. My God, doesn't the President have enough power already?

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

Those trips that Kagan talks about are not "indisputably private," although what happens inside might be. There is nothing to prevent a police investigator from observing where a suspect drives to on public roads.
While I share the concern for privacy and don't want the police to use my phone to track me, I also subscribe to the idea that the Supreme Court should apply the principles of reason and logic rather than emotional reaction.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

Roberts and Barrett side with the liberals on the court to further embed absentee voter fraud into the US election system. These two hang their "constitutionalist" hat on overturning Roe V Wade, and then vote for this crap?

John henry చెప్పారు...

PDJT & the Postmaster General already have a solution. Barcoded ballot envelopes that can be tracked the same way you track an Amazon package.

Not perfect but it does show who mailed the ballot and when and will put a stop to a lot of shenanigans.

John Henry

Mason G చెప్పారు...

Suppose someone has limited mobility and has arranged for a ride to the polling station on election day, but the driver has car trouble and can't make it. Should this person be allowed to submit their vote on a later day?

John henry చెప్పారు...

RCOCEAN II said...

"Republican voters need to get smarter and stop sending lying liberals to congress with (R) after their names."

What else are they going to do, vote democrat?

I would say YES!!! especially if it gets rid of an incumbent.

Vote in primaries against RINO incumbents, regardless how bad the opponent is. You can vote them out in 2 (or 6) years before they have had a chance to do much damage. Look at Bezo's poodle AOC, like a small poodle, she is very yappy, making a lot of noise. But what has she ever accomplished? She does not have enough seniority to do real damage. (Not to say I would not prefer someone else in her place) Or Bernie Sanders, he is an independent, and, partly because of this, has never accomplished anything either (Id still like to see him gone)

They do both make noise and vote reliably democrat which is a helluva downside. But worse than having a Thune or the like in office?

Never vote for an incumbent, either party.

John Henry

Mason G చెప్పారు...

"It removes expertise."

You mean the "expertise" that's gotten the country $40 trillion in debt?

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

Does anybody think that with sufficient motivation, connections and no ethics that they couldn't eliminate or create lots of votes? Does anybody think such people don't exist? Of course you could, and of course they do.

Dogma and Pony Show చెప్పారు...

Slaughter is indeed the biggest deal here, by far. Read Gorsuch's concurrence for an explanation.

The "election day" case was going to be tough to win because the government agrees that EARLY voting is okay. Getting that genie back in the lamp will have to be done legislatively, if at all.

John henry చెప్పారు...

At the risk of sounding like a stuck record (what is the modern phrase for those who don't know what a record is and how it gets stuck)

All elections should be Puerto Rican style. In person voting on election day with secure voter ID cards, paper ballots marked by hand and VERY limited (less than 1-2%) absentee voting and no early voting.

John Henry

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

"There is nothing to prevent a police investigator from observing where a suspect drives to on public roads."

Just because they is a non-private way of doing something doesn't mean anyway you do it is public. I could yell rather than whisper, and when I whisper, I'm doing it for a reason.

Mike (MJB Wolf) చెప్పారు...

Last week: in means in.
This week: on does not necessarily mean on.

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

"Re Slaughter, the Constitution may give the President the power to dismiss all members of federal agencies without cause, but I don't think it is good for country. It eliminates debate on key decisions. It removes expertise. It means every four or eight years there will be a 180 degree change in policy. My God, doesn't the President have enough power already?"

What mechanism would you propose for changing policy?
What mechanism would you propose for removing members of federal agencies?
Keep in mind that the will of voters--American citizens (in theory, anyway) is supposed to be paramount.

Mike (MJB Wolf) చెప్పారు...

Joe#s prefers a boss unable to fire workers. He’ll never be the boss so he’s never gonna think like a boss.

RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...

"What else are they going to do, vote democrat?"

RINOs need to be voted out by any means neccessary. They do more damage as traitors then a straight up Democrat. And of course, if you keep Saying "I need to vote for the RINO, we need to win" every 2 years, then you never get a conservative in.

That's why we got Collins in there for 30 years. And Lisa Murky and McConnell and, and, and. Republicans need to think long term. Punishing liars who talk conservative and govern as liberals is a good thing.

South Carolina would probably elect a solid Conservative if we got Miss Lindsey out, but short-sighted conservatives keep voting for him every 6 years, and now we're stuck with him till he dies of old age.

You'll notice the RINOs never return the favor. If someone they don't like gets nominated they put "Country before party" and vote D or stay home.

Rustygrommet చెప్పారు...

LOL. So Jimmy numbers has a federal job. Jimmy there are very, very very few people who hold public sector jobs who's "expertise" will be missed. Including you.

John henry చెప్పారు...

bagoh20 said...

" Does anybody think that with sufficient motivation, connections and no ethics that they couldn't eliminate or create lots of votes? Does anybody think such people don't exist? Of course you could, and of course they do."

Yes, I do.

I've seen it in 12-15 elections (quadrenniel plus several special elections) I've been in PR since 71, voted in most elections since 76. We have never had charges of fraud or even jokes about election fraud.

Well, one incident, sorta parallels Atlanta 2020. In 1980, Hernandez Colon was 775 votes behind Romero-Barcelo. Both had been swapping off the governor ship for a while and hated each other.

A lot of votes had been counted but it was bed time so they stopped the count til morning. HC gave a firely speech on the theme "A las trincheras" (to the trenches) Hernandez-Colon supporters commandeered a cement truck and tried to crash into the vote counting center.

They were stopped, counting went on normally the next day and I think RB won. Not that it made any difference. Nothing more was heard of fraud.

I figured it would be easy to find the story but DDG couldn't so I asked my sidekick Claude. It had to keep digging but eventually found this

Washington Post, Nov. 7, 1980 — "Puerto Rico Vote Counting Halted Following Fraud Charges, Violence"

As usual, WaPo got it wrong. the fraud charges and violence followed, didn't cause, the violence.

But yeah, it is entirely possible and not even that hard to have entirely trustworthy elections. I've lived it for 50 years.

John Henry

Enigma చెప్పారు...

The 'independent' federal agencies were always a backdoor scheme to maintain control when the Party/faction was out of power. This also applies to government unions, whereby the nominal regulators and policy writers double dip as beneficiaries.

Mail-in voting: Not an issue with sincere, honest elections and accurate voting rolls. Mail-in ballot's weren't an issue for a long time in California even. This changed after they adopted the "Jungle Primary" to put a lefty against a far lefty and keep Republicans out of general elections in 2010-2012. With TDS and during the Biden era, mail-in voting became an easily exploited system.

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

Bagoh--I'm not arguing with the principle. I'm questioning the reasoning. Kagan needs a stronger argument.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

Congress can define terms in Federal Election Laws.
States can define terms in State Election Laws
Awaiting development of Fugitive Ballot jurisprudence!!

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

And invention of frozen date machine for Post Marks

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

Not possible yet, but touch DNA is advancing quickly. Have a circle on the ballot that you lick before before sealing. All ballots must be licked, and a scanner quickly checks for duplicates. Make the ballots bacon-flavored to ensure compliance.

Left Bank of the Charles చెప్పారు...

Trump will resist Watson, because he can’t let go of his Covid fever dream that mail-in ballots are how he lost the 2020 election. The only way mail-in ballots are going to be delivered or postmarked this fall in swing states and blue states is by court-ordered injunction.

jim5301 చెప్పారు...

BoatBuilder - "What mechanism would you propose for changing policy?"

Pass a law? How about the party in power gets to name a majority of commissioners? Executive Orders? Or just keep as is - seems to work

Lazarus చెప్పారు...

Surely one can hate Trump and all his works and also recognize the fraudulence of EJ Carroll's claim. Not doing so marks one as a dupe or a scoundrel not worth paying attention to. The internet provides ammunition for each side, but a lot of it is duds, or likely to explode on you, rather than on the target. It's the same with Kavanaugh and CB Ford.

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

"The whole notion of "independent agencies" is, in this amateur's opinion, anathema to the Constitution." Stephen Green - PJ Media

Mason G చెప్పారు...

"Or just keep as is - seems to work"

So- next time a Democrat president is elected, current government workers will be replaced with new ones who will resist implementing Dem policies. Like that?

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

Does it make sense to have the Congress hire and fire positions within the Executive Branch? Can the President then fire congressional aides or SC clerks?

Iman చెప్పారు...

Jimmy Numbers has a “federal job”. Who woulda thunk it!?!?

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

I skimmed through Chatrie. I think that Gorsuch's concurrence regarding "effects" is persuasive, although I reluctantly believe that Thomas got it right and the decision is just unnecessary virtue signaling.

One can never be really certain about "effects:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFduVeNEWSA

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

"BoatBuilder - "What mechanism would you propose for changing policy?"

Pass a law? How about the party in power gets to name a majority of commissioners? Executive Orders? Or just keep as is - seems to work"

So you think that Congress should "pass a law" as to what federal commissioners get to stay or go when a new president takes office? (Why does Congress get that power? Where is it in the Constitution?)

Or that the "party in power" gets to name commissioners? (Why would that not result in a 180 degree change every time there is an election? Also nowhere in the Constitution.)

Or that the President should do so by Executive Order? (As opposed to just firing and replacing? How is an EO different?)

Or "just keep as is--seems to work". No, it doesn't, which is why Trump has to fire people. Which the voters elected him to do.

Maybe you should think about executive power as something belonging to the Presidency, and not just about it temporarily belonging to someone you don't like.

Mason G చెప్పారు...

"The federal election-day statutes do not prevent Mississippi from counting absentee ballots postmarked by election day but received up to five days thereafter; nothing in the federal election-day statutes requires ballots to be received by election day."

If "up to five days" is okay, why not "up to fourteen days" or "up to thirty-seven days"? Or up to the Twelfth of Never?

Joe Bar చెప్పారు...

"A President can nominate the Fed Board of Governor members, and Chairman and Vice-Chairman, but a President can't fire them? "

I read an analysis that said that they CAN be fired, but there is a process that wasn't followed in this case. The President can go back, and try again, using the correct procedure.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

Another way to look at this is that the Court majority sided with major donors in both cases.

e.g. Major donors want to hive off the Federal Reserve, so that it can act as an independent power center -- the real fear here is that Trump could completely remake one of the most powerful and important institutions in the country over a single-term. This ruling forecloses the easy route (the "hard route" would require not just a Democratic supermajority, but a supermajority of elected officials who run and win on overhauling the Federal Reserve).

The FTC decision means that right-wing presidents can gut the agency when in power and effectively hollow it out, so that there is no real institutional continuity. A future Democratic president has a higher burden, because he or she still has to clear the Senate in order to rebuild the agency, and there are times when the Republicans will have a majority and/or the Democrats may have a narrow majority with more conservative members acting with Republicans to limit the ability of the FTC to act.

Right now, a re-occurring theme is that we have the best Supreme Court that money can buy. In order to maintain a fig-leaf of legitimacy the Court will sometimes go against Trump. However, they never go against the preferences of the wealthiest donor interests.

Narr చెప్పారు...

They say the wai-ai-ting is the hardest part.

Freder Frederson చెప్పారు...

Surely one can hate Trump and all his works and also recognize the fraudulence of EJ Carroll's claim.

So why bother with trials at all? If you don't like the jury's decision, tough shit. You got your day in court, and the jury didn't buy your version of the events.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

After about 3 years of interest accruing, how much more does Trump have to pay?

tim maguire చెప్పారు...

Freder Frederson said..."Surely one can hate Trump and all his works and also recognize the fraudulence of EJ Carroll's claim."

So why bother with trials at all? If you don't like the jury's decision, tough shit. You got your day in court, and the jury didn't buy your version of the events.


Maybe this will help you with the applicable distinction: "The world must construe according to its wits; this court must construe according to the law." Sir Thomas More

Jersey Fled చెప్పారు...

How can ballots with postmarks prior to Election Day continue to arrive in mass quantities weeks after the election? Even the USPS isn’t that bad.

RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...

Trump had a great response on social media to the SCOTUS decisions on truth social. As Trump says, we need to pass the SAVE act. Too bad Thune and the Senate Republicans are blocking it. Crazy how you can always count on x percent of Republicans to stab the R party in the back, while the D's get 99 percent to vote the party line.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

My understanding is that ....
EARLY VOTING is merely depositing ballot envelope at official venues to be opened and tallied on ELECTION DAY
sorta reverse variation of MAIL IN VOTING.

Correct me if wrong.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

Coming from India I've to SMH when American talk Election or Democracy

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

AI tell me Fed Governors paid by US Treasury.
Bessent can put stop to it? Maybe USSC revisit Marbury?

Left Bank of the Charles చెప్పారు...

It looks like Trump may still be able to fire Cook from the Fed for cause if he first gives her some type of hearing. He could have done that when he fired her last August, and any self-respecting lawyer who had read the Fed statutes would have advised him to do so if he wanted Cook to stay fired.

From that we can conclude that it was more important to Trump to establish that he could fire Fed board members without any due process or judicial review than to actually fire Cook.

He failed at the first, we’ll see how long he continues to litigate the second, probably until the end of his term. But even if he succeeds in court, he may not be able to get a successor confirmed by the Senate.

Lem Vibe Bandit చెప్పారు...

I don’t want to get political.

Shouting Thomas చెప్పారు...

Anybody besides me amazed at the errand routes Gorsuch seems to take?

Lem Vibe Bandit చెప్పారు...

That election decision is blank check to cheat.

Jersey Fled చెప్పారు...

I’m curious. Do these ballots California is counting now even have postmarks on them?

Mark చెప్పారు...

". Crazy how you can always count on x percent of Republicans to stab the R party in the back,"

You mean like the Republican President endorsing challengers to Republican incumbents?

Who would have thought (besides anyone with a brain) that they would no longer rubber stamp Trump after he threw them under the bus?

Leland చెప్పారు...

So why bother with trials at all? If you don't like the jury's decision, tough shit.

With this argued principle, ffs, now explain why we have appeals at all?

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

From Sotomayor's dissent in Slaughter:

"...These great statesmen and Justices knew something that today’s majority apparently does not: that fealty to the Constitution means respecting not just what it says, but what it does not say and by its silence leaves to others to decide."

Yikes! If she were arguing that the Tenth Amendment means what it says, then I would agree. But she's not; she's arguing that the Framers intended that there be an unnamed and unimpeachable "Fourth Branch" that decides and regulates whatever it is that she or they feel ought to be decided and regulated (apparently).

Fred Drinkwater చెప్పారు...

I'm fine with accepting ballots postmarked on time but delivered after election day.

PROVIDED that NO BALLOTS can be counted ANYWHERE by any jurisdiction until after the last day for accepting ballots has passed.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi చెప్పారు...

Is this the same court that Democrats insist on “packing “ since they’re in Trump’s back pocket?

James K చెప్పారు...

The real solution is to eliminate mail-in voting entirely (other than approved absentee ballots for good cause). I would think that could be done for federal elections, at least, if majorities in the House and Senate had any backbone.

D.D. Driver చెప్పారు...

Another way to look at this is that the Court majority sided with major donors in both cases.

Eh? Where do the voters come in? If a candidate is elected and promises to fire the Fed chair, why shouldn't the Fed chair be accountable to electorate? That's how democracy works. The voters need to have some power to fire these guys. Will it lead to chaos? Maybe. Do I care? Not really.

Mason G చెప్పారు...

This whole "counting ballots that were received 'X' days after election day" thing is just like what the "fair share" of taxes should be on your income- nobody is willing to actually define it.

You want to allow votes received after election day, that were postmarked before? Ok. Specify how many days ('X') you are allowing, there has to be an end to counting. Now, the postmark deadline for mail-in votes will be 'X' days before election day, and all mail-in votes will be counted before starting the count of in-person votes.

Voila! All votes are received by election day. How can anyone (except those intending to cheat) find fault with that?

Mason G చెప్పారు...

Just to be clear- I'm opposed to mail-in voting but if it's going to happen, it should be done so cheaters can't use it to draw out the count in order to figure out how many votes they need to "find".

n.n చెప్పారు...

Remote and early voting are democratically reconcilable. Any climate changes later are a penalty for exercising the privilege.

Jim at చెప్పారు...

My God, doesn't the President have enough power already?

So you'd rather have unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats wield that power instead.

Got it.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

Critics of the Supreme Court say that today's Slaughter ruling will give future presidents far too much power. They're wrong—the court will reverse itself as soon as there's a Democrat in the White House.

Jim at చెప్పారు...

If you don't like the jury's decision, tough shit.

Once again, it remains a total mystery why so many people think Freder's an asshole.

Here's hoping you get yours someday. And we can all say in unison, 'Tough shit.'

Mason G చెప్పారు...

"So you'd rather have unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats wield that power instead."

Not exactly. He wants unelected and unaccountable Democrat bureaucrats to wield that power. Replace them with Republicans and he'd be totes against it.

Christopher B చెప్పారు...

"hanuman_prodigious_leaper said...
My understanding is that ....
EARLY VOTING is merely depositing ballot envelope at official venues to be opened and tallied on ELECTION DAY
sorta reverse variation of MAIL IN VOTING."

No, not really.

EARLY VOTING usually refers to voting in person (Kentucky confusingly calls it "in-person unexcused absentee voting") prior to Election Day, either in a designated polling place or a government office (in Kentucky you can do "in-person excused absentee voting" in the county clerk's office). In-person early voting is mostly handled exactly like voting on Election Day with ballot distribution and collection happening in a secure polling area. The other voting is like using an absentee ballot except you fill it out in the clerk's office where it is placed in an envelope and retained for counting on Election Day.

VOTE BY MAIL almost always refers to the distribution of ballots by mail with return traditionally by mail, or now often in a drop box. This could either be by request, or in other states ballots are sent to all registered voters.

Different jurisdictions handle the non-polling place votes differently. Some places perform all the administrative functions (authentication of signature and address, seperation of the ballot from the return envelope) as the ballots are received, and then count them on Election Day. Other places hold them and perform all that work on Election Day. It is also very common to not bother to count any absentee ballots unless races turn out to be decided by fewer votes than the number of absentee ballots from the affected precinct(s) just to save on the effort needed to publish results.

The one thing that this ruling may help reduce is the odious practice of 'curing' ballots marked outside polling locations that are incorrectly filled out. If you can't accept a ballot after Election Day, I don't see how you can legally modify it, either.

Rustygrommet చెప్పారు...

Lem Vibe Bandit said...
"That election decision is blank check to cheat."
Once that ballot leaves your hand there is no chain of custody.

rehajm చెప్పారు...

…yah, nobody’s changing anyone’s opinion but the same people who insist our elections are fair are the same party of people that insisted Florida tighten their voting standards back when Gore’s Presidency was stolen. Florida is a big populous state in two time zones and they manage to get their count done before the late local news and without crying and wailing about disenfranchisement. Anyone not willing to adopt- nay calling for the universal adoption of Florida voting standards can be assumed to be up to something unsavory…

rehajm చెప్పారు...

…with the addition of early voting, which I eagerly support, the necessity of broadly mailed ballots is largely negated and can be reserved for restricted excuses. Accepting ballots after counting begins is an auditors red flag. I’m never signing off on that and neither should anyone else…

mccullough చెప్పారు...

If the Federal Reserve is so spinet why was Cook on there in the first place? She’s a moron.

n.n చెప్పారు...

One American, one vote, one candidate, no grading on a curve, no late counts. JournoLists muzzled until after declaration of intent is recorded.

Mason G చెప్పారు...

Democrats constantly whine that mail-in voting is needed because people can't get id to vote, and then they run around picking up those ballots because the "voter" can't get to a mailbox.

As though running around to help those people to get id's in the first place is out of the question.

It's almost like they prefer maintaining the problem over solving it, isn't it?

Spiros చెప్పారు...

Did the Supreme Court say that the mail in ballots must be post marked by election day? If so, that is a big win for the Republicans. At least in California, the Democrats count everything that comes in whether or not it has been stamped by the postal service (provided the vote is for a Democrat) for a week or so.

At least on this point, Barrett allowed common sense to sneak into her odious opinion...

mccullough చెప్పారు...

All the justices are squishes on this one. Election Day means the day people vote. Not the last day people can vote.

Early voting for US Senate & House office is unconstitutional. If mail in voting be allowed the ballots must be postmarked on Election Day.

They are all wrong. As usual.



Rabel చెప్పారు...

"Did the Supreme Court say that the mail in ballots must be post marked by election day?"

I don't think so. As I read it they ruled that the states have the final authority to set their own rules.

Rabel చెప్పారు...

That ruling was based on their reading of the current federal law.

gspencer చెప్పారు...

Since entering the US is a privilege and not a matter of right, the Dept of State might put together a blocking mechanism. Ask the question on a visa application, "Are you pregnant?" Yes answerers get denied entry. Probably plenty of ways to cheat on this but it's a start.

The problem with this is obvious: What one can do, another can undo. So a D president will of course work to usher in the NWO even faster.

Lem Vibe Bandit చెప్పారు...

The Fed is different… and so are elections rule makers… and so on and so on… pretty soon we are not going to have a country anymore.

Known Unknown చెప్పారు...

I would favor making election day a National holiday to eliminate mail-in ballots, which are fraught with corruptibility.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

Trump’s DOJ Loses Lawsuit Over Voter Rolls in New Hampshire ~ Bloomberg Law

"A [republican] federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed last year against New Hampshire and five other states by the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division for failure to produce statewide voter registration lists at the government's request."

"In addition to New Hampshire, lawsuits were filed against California, Michigan, Minnesota, New York and Pennsylvania."

Are governors from red states who handed over voter registration lists susceptible to lawsuits by residents?

GRW3 చెప్పారు...

It's not the complete win the D's think. By citing the phrase "by election day" in her decision it solidifies the postmark issue. In some fashion I agree, thinking about rural Mississippi, where a ballot postmarked on election day in a hinterland county, might take one, two, or more days to reach official counting site. The correct response is to make sure that after the election day receipts are postmarked, that all post office systems be incremented to the next day immediately and sealed until the end of the ballot period. Also clarify that all mail ballots must come through the post office and all must be individually post marked.

Fritz చెప్పారు...

“ If you don't like the jury's decision, tough shit.”

Now do Emmett Till.

Vance చెప్పారు...

IEE wants to make sure. that millions of illegal Muslim terrorists get to vote... as many times as possible. SInce they will all vote Democrat, of course, the party that supports Muslim conquest of American and the ensuing rape and torture and death and genocide of millions of us. But hey, IEE is hoping that he gets to be like Soros and listen to the screams as he lives off stolen property!

Gospace చెప్పారు...

Just a reminder on the postmark thing.

Military ballots received in the past BEFORE election day have thrown out because they lack postmarks. In Democrat jurisdictions only IIRC. All judge approved and everything.

The actual term for postmarks- cancellations. To mark and cancel the stamps so they cannot be reused. Military ballots are free from postage- by law- and therefore, do not require cancellation. I know the first ship I was on in 1973 didn't cancel them.

I know that Democrats in Florida attempted to throw out all military ballots without postmarks in the Bush-Gore election because they lacked "postmarks" that they don't, by law, require.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

Republicans (or at least conservative federal judges) have had this view of executive power since at least the Reagan Era. So yes, they know that the next Democrat president can (and should) be able to fire whoever Trump appoints. I don’t understand why Democrats are so upset by this.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

Great TV with Boies trying to bamboozling the county judge with lying precedent even before we had AI.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

Made up precedent s

rcommal చెప్పారు...

[start virtual italics]Fred Drinkwater said...
I'm fine with accepting ballots postmarked on time but delivered after election day.

PROVIDED that NO BALLOTS can be counted ANYWHERE by any jurisdiction until after the last day for accepting ballots has passed.

6/29/26, 2:17 PM[end virtual italics]

I have been thinking about this comment since I first read it yesterday afternoon. I'm still thinking about, and I'm thinking it has some real merit (though obviously there would be some real issues, such as, for example, that it would require a seismic shift in people's attitudes and expectations). I wonder if it really could address some of the very sticky issues, such as the concern that the current system might allow "looking for additional votes once the in-person tallies are in."

Anybody else been thinking about this since Fred Drinkwater posted it? I'd be interested in other commenters' thoughts about this idea. For those of you adamantly opposed to the way mail-in ballots/absentee ballots are dealt with, would something like this be helpful?

Regards,

Lori (reader_iam)

rcommal చెప్పారు...

I mean, maybe it would be worthwhile to explore the notion of having an Election Day and then a Counting Day, say, a week later or something like that?

I really don't know if this would work, and I really don't even know what I ultimately think of the idea yet. But it strikes me as worth considering, maybe.

Obviously, how elections are conducted are the states' purview, but I really am wondering about this.

Regards,

Lori (reader_iam)

rehajm చెప్పారు...

Anybody else been thinking about this since Fred Drinkwater posted it? I'd be interested in other commenters' thoughts about this idea.

…anything that pushes beyond election day is all corruption and nuts. Any reasonable accommodation for absentee ballots can be handled leading in to election day. Anything beyond is a 21st century invention, or a biblical tale of theft…

Mary Beth చెప్పారు...

Why should election day be different from counting day? The government picked the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November, but it's an arbitrary choice. They could have picked any other day and it would be just as valid. Why should the counting day be later rather than the mailing day be earlier?

I remember announcements on TV leading up to Christmas that you had until a given date to mail packages to arrive in time for the holiday. Why not have TV and radio ads (and emails and texts) telling people to mail in their ballots a week or so before election day. Then count them all that day and don't allow any more additions.

The only potential downside I see to voting by mail a week early is if the candidate does something horrible in the last week. I don't think this is a big downside because I don't think it would change many votes of the early voters. They are going to vote red or blue regardless.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

Poll workers say that staffing and equipment prevent them from counting every ballot on Election Day. A Fox News guest says that the counts are delayed so that Antifa and Italian satellites can change the results. For busy Supreme Court justices, it can be hard to know who to trust.

Mason G చెప్పారు...

Mason G said... 6/29/26, 2:51 PM

You want to allow votes received after election day, that were postmarked before? Ok. Specify how many days ('X') you are allowing, there has to be an end to counting. Now, the postmark deadline for mail-in votes will be 'X' days before election day, and all mail-in votes will be counted before starting the count of in-person votes.

Voila! All votes are received by election day.

And while we're at it, each voting precinct needs to keep their final count undisclosed until every last precinct reports that they are done counting. No more of this "Atlanta's not done counting yet, there's a water leak" crap so they can stall to see how many more votes they need to manufacture.

How can anyone (except those intending to cheat) find fault with that?

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