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"And the Democrats aren't fighting back.... They didn't beat us, but they'd be victorious against the Communists."
"But they don't have the courage to do so. So, they're turning Communists themselves, becoming a Communist Party. These are not Social Democrats. These are hardcore godless Communists. They're godless Communists. All communists are godless. They don't believe in God. This is the most serious threat to our country since its existence... 250 years ago...."
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try and prove him wrong
…when you’ve lost James Carville and twelve (twelve?)
…what ai find odd is the natural assumption the Democratic Socialist are equivalent to the Democrat Party. It’s right there i. the post tags. They’re one and the same, if not in name. Nobody really disagrees except ol pumpkin head and those twelve (twelve?) Dems…
"try and prove him wrong"
Who, exactly, has called for nationalization of industry or confiscating personal property? Unless "communism" is anything you don't like.
"try and prove him wrong"
HAHAHAHAHA!
Try fucking proving or validating Trump's nonsense...not to mention the similar fever dreams of a substantial portion of the Republicans, a cohort becoming simultaneously as crazy as Trump and at least as ignorant !
“Who, exactly, has called for nationalization of industry or confiscating personal property?”
Try reading X. It’s the most common demand on the left, the confiscation of Elon Musk’s businesses, personal property and wealth.
“Who, exactly, has called for nationalization of industry or confiscating personal property?”
Mamdani's Rent Freeze Is Approved by New York City Board
Seems like the New York City Board has just taken control of all rental property and decided to do with it as they please.
Unfortunately, he’s not wrong.
Leland beat me to it.
That was probably the most eloquent speech Trump has ever given. However (and this is a difficult argument to give without going tl:dr), we are already in the midst of the AI/robotics Singularity and as Musk says: In the very near future you’ll be able to have whatever you want. Even the gurus of AI/robotics (Musk, Diamandis, Kurzweil, Andreessen, Wissner-Gross) are slowly reaching consensus with the left on the development of some sort of sovereign wealth distribution in the style of Alaska. Everybody, including Trump, is busy fighting the last war. Musk predicts 10X per annum GPD growth by 2030. Reality is changing faster than the human intellect can comprehend.
Henry Ford answered this question over 100 years ago: “I know how to produce a million cars a year, but where are the consumers who can afford to buy my product?” And, he did devise an answer.
“ All communists are godless.”
But please bear in mind that not all us godless are communists.
The left routinely lets the fox guard the henhouse --- they seek all allies and an advantage for the "change" mission. It's always a matter of degree for how much change and the type of change. In the last few years the 1960s atheists, feminists, unions, and LGBTQ++++++++++ linked up with part-time mortal enemies (i.e., Islam, some transgender views, unchecked immigrants).
Many Democrats have already broken away (i.e., Trump, Musk, Gabbard, Rogan, Vance, RFK Jr.), but now Fetterman, Carville, Maher, et al. openly accept being MAGA-adjacent.
Applied to vampire fiction:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_the_Right_One_In_(film)
The fact the Dems are openly embracing communism is good for the GOP. The low information voters and independents can see who the Dems really are now. Clarity is good.
"The fact the Dems are openly embracing communism is good for the GOP."
This statement lacks any basis in fact.
"But please bear in mind that not all us godless are communists."
A point that some can not, or will not, understand.
Seems like the New York City Board has just taken control of all rental property and decided to do with it as they please.
Simply not true. It is only those rental properties that are already rent-controlled. A true communist would seize the properties with compensation to the owner.
"The fact the Dems are openly embracing communism is good for the GOP."
Are they? How so? Aside from a tiny cohort of Dems who are somewhat "progressive," the Dems as a whole are about as "left" as the Republicans of the 1960s. (The Republicans now are as far right--or as compliant and self-seeking--as the government of Hitler's Germany.)
I see MAGA has received their chanting points. Says a lot that a few progressives win some primaries and the whole establishment is treating it as if it's Armageddon. New York is not America. Does not translate nationally.
It’s pretty obvious when Trump thinks he’s on to a winning formula on something. He now thinks being an anti-communist crusader is the key to the midterms. He’s going to talk about communism every day from now until November. It’s basically 1954.
"The Republicans now are as far right--or as compliant and self-seeking--as the government of Hitler's Germany."
The Republicans, to their credit, know that their voters are rabid dogs willing to inflict harm unto anyone outside of their group and act accordingly
A true communist would seize the properties with compensation to the owner.
Bullshit
@Fredo Frederson, which President in 2009 replaced the CEO of GM with a political ally? Hint: the same President dictated corporate strategy to Chrysler, forcing it, among other things, to find a merger partner.
Two more mind reading posts from “Indefinitely.”
Kid, this is stupid. I taught Rhetoric 101 and 102 decades ago. You would have gotten an F for both these posts. Are you aware that this mind reading bit you do is incredibly stupid and makes everything you write stupid and irrelevant?
"A true communist would seize the properties with compensation to the owner."
LMFAO
should be "no compensation for the owner".
which President in 2009 replaced the CEO of GM with a political ally?
And which president has made the government part owner in IBM and is interfering in the proposed Paramount merger?
"Dave Begley said...
The fact the Dems are openly embracing communism is good for the GOP. The low information voters and independents can see who the Dems really are now. Clarity is good."
Plenty of low information voters don't know what communism is . Plenty of independents are the same. Biggest thing in California and elsewhere among young middle class is being able to buy a home. It ain't easy.
Days of stay at home wife with kids while dad works 40 hours at factory making enough to pay for a home, a car, a house, and everything else are long gone.
Plenty of voters will vote for the commies and hope things get better for them.
"...A true communist would seize the properties with no compensation to the owner...."
Field Marshall Freder informs 'you people' that real communism hasn't been tried, yet. I guess he has high hopes.
Democrats believe in DEIties, mortal gods. Let us bray. #HateLovesAbortion
Yeah Trump, those horrible people who support assassinations. "Its part of their ideaology". LOL.
Paging Israel on line one
Gov Hochul, if she were at all financially literate, could starve NYC into its senses well before a good chunk more of the city’s inhabitants flee. Perhaps the Feds would do so as well, but having a city as an example of what not to do might be helpful for the midterms and beyond.
That aside, Trump always uses hyperbole and exaggeration. The Left is trying to destroy America, but so are the Business Republicans. Why else would you support massive immigration and open borders? Both the left and business Republicans want to replace White America. Trump himself increased the number of Chicom students in the USA and loves H-1Bs - who dont go home.
I suppose what's getting Trump's goat is the Left raising taxes. The most horrible of horrors. Ike was Ok with a 90 percent tax rate. And massive inheritance taxes. I'm with Eisenhower. He was the real American.
serious question: Was there ANY THING in Trump's speach..
that WAS NOT TRUE?\
ANY THING?
Oh the poor babies in NYC will leave if those "Commies" keep it up. Go ahead and leave dummies. Maybe the rents will become more affordable.
Rightwingers are always stamping their feet and shouting "By God, we're not taking it anymore. We're leaving. That'll show em". They've been saying that it California and NY for 30 years. And the Left doesn't give a fuck.
It would be a fascinating experiment…. Imagine the only people living in NYC are those that expect the others to pay for and provide everything they need. No help from NY State nor the Federal government. LOL.
There is no communism. There is no nazism. Shouting about either just is an excuse for not talking about reality and addressing problems. Its childish but then most Americans are morons.
All true.
That experiment will never happen.
Damaged and Demented Don doesn't even know that his best and most admired buddy is a Communist killer named Put-in!
Gadfly didn't get the message that the 3 commies in NY - who will be added to the growing group of radical leftists in the house of representatives - all admire Putin.
Gadfly misses crook puppet Joe. So sad.
Fredo and Cookie are deeply offended. We are not supposed to talk about where the Democrat party is very clearly headed.
There are no moderate Democrats left in the party. Trump, Elon, Tulsi, RFK Jr and others have left. The Socialists will be completely in charge. We all know that Communism is the result of Socialists being completely in charge.
Shouting Thomas .... The belief that Ford increased wages so that workers could afford his cars is a myth. The primary reason for the massive increase was the assembly line process being so grueling he couldn't keep workers at lower wages. Instead he made cars more affordable by reversing the usual "cost plus" pricing policy by driving his engineers and production staff to find ways to build cars at a price he determined would stimulate demand. Finally, the period in which Ford was pioneering mass automobile production and sales featured steady improvement in industrial wages and income as well as a significant inflation of the money supply due to gold strikes in Australia, South Africa, and the Yukon. All of those together made Ford's cars affordable to more and more consumers, even after he increased worker pay.
The money supply growth of the early 20th century does point to the possibility that if we do see exponential growth of GDP from AI and other technologies we might see a similar improvement in living standards, however.
RCOCEAN: Ayn Rand wrote that "Tyranny is any political system (whether absolute monarchy or fascism or communism) that does not recognize individual rights (which necessarily include property rights). The overthrow of a political system by force is justified only when it is directed against tyranny: it is an act of self-defense against those who rule by force. For example, the American Revolution."
So perhaps among MAGists (populists} are where we find American morons.
The left are on the march to cheat to win - so they can re-establish their USAID grift schemes - and billions and billions of tax payer funded fraud - while the democrat hack media cover for them.
wow lot of "I know you are but what am I" up in here today. Old people are hillarious,trying to remain relevant as they wait for their upcoming dirt nap, "I know you are but what am I" your mother wears combat boots: OH yeah! Yeah Oh yeah ! Only I CAN FIX IT.. :( back to the caves serfs, nobody hears you or cares..there is nothing YOU can do about it...your vote is rigged,,the elite got the $$$ and the criminals run it all..Good luck, you might as well make a bet you can even pick the crooks to win! :)
RCOII: “Paging Israel on line one.” Jew hater confuses Israelis with communists. Next stop, “Pol Pot was a Jew!”
Peachy+2 fails to recognize the insufficency of three NY politicians versus 3 hundred million Americans.
He's risking losing the atheist vote. Us agnostics are tougher to cut lose.
gadfly: “So perhaps among MAGists (populists} are where we find American morons.” So says a devotee of the Party that gave us Joe Dementia, a plethora of incompetent mayors and now a gaggle of commies.
BTW, “Populist: noun. A supporter of the rights and power of the people.” Anathema to Democrats, of course.
"The fact the Dems are openly embracing communism is good for the GOP."
Rahm Emanuel agrees.
The wins so far have all been in strongly blue areas, which means no net gains. The rest of the country will reject it even more strongly than it does less communist Democrats, and it's making them seem even less attractive as a party.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2026/06/26/rahm_emanuel_you_win_by_turning_red_districts_blue_--_the_socialist_wing_is_turning_blue_districts_midnight_blue.html
…holy carp! Just look up the definition of socialism…
Is there any ideology more often proven a failure than Communism? It's the political equivalent of Flat Earthism, but infinitely more fatal and dangerous to humans. I can't believe people are not instantly embarrassed to be anywhere near it. They used to be. Many of the very same people.
The left are far more religious than the right.
The left's religion in insane leftist politics.
who gives a fuck what ayn rand says?
The modern D's HATE - and demand obedience and full destruction
Gadfly - you don't make any sense. You accuse Trump of being in bed with Putin - and that is a lie. An established LIE.
Hillary, a democrat like you - was in bed with Putin - and her private server for Russian funding to the Clinton Foundation proved it - written up in the NYT, proves it.
"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." ~ George Carlin, 2005
So apart from Universal healthcare, affordable education, universal childcare, better public schools, improved public transport, stronger environmental investment, fairer taxation, higher wages, stronger workers’ rights, paid family leave, paid sick leave, affordable housing, lower prescription costs, better infrastructure, universal broadband, reduced inequality, stronger safety nets, better mental health support, lower homelessness, less medical bankruptcy, improved social mobility, stronger consumer protections, and more investment in long-term public good …. Why would socialism be attractive to Americans?
Look, not to say that I endorse the most radical wing of the Democratic Party, but for Trump and the Republicans already Joe Biden was some kind of avatar of Pol Pot and Mao, so I'm not sure that a left wing radical winning one primary is going to make any difference as to how Republicans perceive Democrats at this stage.
Ford was able to increase Model T production from 200 thousand in 1914 to 700 thousand in 1917. After ww1, production zoomed to 1.5 million in 1920, and Ford produced 11 million Model Ts from 1921-1926.
Ford believed in treating his workers well, however his paternalism was resented. Ford followed Chrysler and GM UAW contacts when it came to wages, but fought a battle to prevent UAW from unionizing Ford plants.
The bitter battle to unionize Ford had more to do with Union bosses power than money and worker safety.
It’s priceless watching the alt right figuring out how to spin the leftward lunge in the Democrats recent successes - they’ve spent so much capital and time berating every single thing the moderate Dems have done they have no narrative left to create anything even remotely credible interesting compelling or effective to say about the new leftists. They’ve backed themselves into a brick corner where all they are getting is the echoes of their own whining.
rehajm (12:10pm):
Don't "Just look up the definition of socialism": make sure to keep reading until you get to the part about the not-very-different varieties of socialism: national and international.
I don't get the Left perspective here. Is it that the Democrat's are not becoming more communist, or they are, but that's a good thing for Dems? The right, as usual has a diversity of opinion. They all agree they are going there, but disagree on if it's good for the Right or not. It's clearly bad for the country, or at least the blue areas, because it always is, always was, and always will be. This is the problem with going to college to learn history. They have their own there, and it teaches them to try stupid shit again and again.
“It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." ~ George Carlin, 2005”
The American Dream is beautiful. Both my grandpas were subsistence farmers and day laborers. My three sisters and I are all middle or upper middle class. One of my sisters is outrageously wealthy and lives in a gated community in Honolulu. My grandpas’ grandchildren are all college educated and even more successful. My grandpas would have considered my lifetime work as a multimedia programmer and developer to be child’s play.
George Carlin lived the American dream, as did I, and I bet most people here as well, as did their parents and grand parents. That's why the residents of our poorest states are wealthier and more productive than in most nations of the world including Europe. George Carlin got his version of the dream charging people money for telling them jokes. What a country, but I doubt he would suggest you take them seriously.
The house I born in was rented by my parents until I was three. It was all we could afford, and it was so infested with rats, us kids were not allowed to come down stairs in the morning until dad cleared them out. Every day there would be new holes chewed in a couch or a wall, and rat dropping everywhere. We were forced to move out when they condemned the house and tore it down. By the time I was 8, with 3 siblings, we were buying a new car every few years, and taking long family vacations to the beach. We never won the lottery, it was just two high school grads working hard in America. Yes, it was a dream come true, and it just kept getting better..
Peachy+2 said...
Gadfly - you don't make any sense. You accuse Trump of being in bed with Putin - and that is a lie. An established LIE.
Hillary, a democrat like you - was in bed with Putin - and her private server for Russian funding to the Clinton Foundation proved it - written up in the NYT, proves it.
The left always accuses the rest of us of what they are already doing.
Assume it isn’t far from the truth to label a handful of democrats in Congress communist. I still don’t see it as a winning campaign issue. Does someone in Kansas know or care about the politics of some random representative from nyc?
Someone set us up the display board in Times Square...
Brother you asked for it -- Francisco D'Anconia
Interesting watching the nutty progressives that comment here try and suggest the communist running and winning as Democrat Socialist in the Democrat Party are somehow a product of the Right, MAGA, and Trump. I guess they think all those people that voted in the Republican Primary and giving Trump victory after victory were somehow voting for DSA candidates in the Democrat Primary, or the Red States created jungle primaries to make it easier for the DSA.
It’s funny because he is bullshiting about god (or at least i suspect he is) but he is altogether right about the aims of our current democrats. I don’t connect with the man, but I sure as hell support him!
"Does someone in Kansas know or care about the politics of some random representative from nyc?"
They do if they can see which way things are trending; which most people are smart enough to.
It always amazes me when people try and argue that current conditions will continue indefinitely. Do you think we're stupid, Steve?
@Freder Frederson -- Communism does not involve state ownership of the means of production, since communism is stateless. The role of the Communist Party is to create a socialist state which owns the means of production and then husband that state to true communism as the state naturally withers away.
The DSA are genuine socialists, even if not necessarily communists. Their own website makes it clear that their endgame is state ownership of the means of production.
They are NOT social democrats, who embrace free markets coupled with robust safety nets.
Notice certain people in this thread squealing like stuck pigs, and yet they offer nothing to refute Trump's points.
Why it's almost as if they don't like being exposed as communist fuckheads.
"Why it's almost as if they don't like being exposed as communist fuckheads."
If communism/socialism is so great, why do so many communists/socialists complain when they're called communists/socialists?
Dang, there's blood in the water today here at Althouse blog.
From Gemini AI:
"The Chinese Famine of 1959-1961 is universally recognized as the deadliest famine in human history. The estimated death toll was 30 million people. It occurred during Mao Zedong’s communist rule in China.
The North Korean Famine of 1994-98 had an estimated death toll of 1.3 million people. It occurred under Kim Jong II’s communist rule.
The Cambodian Famine of 1975-1979 had an estimated death toll of 1.75 million people. It occurred under the communist rule of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge.
The Ethiopian Famine of 1983-1985 had an estimated death toll of 1.3 million people. It occurred under the communist rule of Mengistu Haile Mariam and the Derg.
The Holocaust of 1941-1945 had an estimated death toll of 14 million people, including 6 million Jews. It occurred under the totalitarian Nazi rule of Adolf Hitler.
The Soviet Gulag of the 1930s-1950s had an estimated death toll of 2.2 million people. It occurred under the communist rule of Joseph Stalin.
The Holodomor of 1932-1933 had an estimated death toll of 4.25 million people. It occurred under the communist rule of Joseph Stalin."
Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand" is the best way.
The "invisible hand" is an economic metaphor coined by Scottish philosopher Adam Smith in the 18th century. It describes how the self-interested actions of individuals in a free market inadvertently benefit society as a whole. Driven by profit and personal needs, individuals unknowingly produce what the public values most.
https://www.prometheanaction.com/the-saturday-wrap-up-exposed-the-dead-communist-behind-mamdani-and-the-cfrs-post-trump-plot-june-27-2026/
Jim at @ 2:37
Indeed.
Original Mike - I think things are trending in the other direction and NYC is an outlier.
At least classically, Socialism was government control of the means of production, while communism, a division of socialism, was government ownership. Communism would never fade away, since the main driver for control of a communist state soon became perpetually increasing the power of the elites, in order to increase their perks, benefits, and power. Of controlling the government.it wasn’t that long before the elites in the Soviet government and their communist party started having their Black Sea dachas, chauffeured limousines, special stores, special schools, etc. And their leaders are going to give all that up, for the good of the party? Hardly.
Fascists, on the other hand, used carrot and stick to get the largest companies to do what they wanted. Absent too much government intervention, they had a relatively easy job of getting the trains to run on time, which turned out to be highly problematic for the communists.
So... the same people who were all, "If Trump hadn't hidden his head in the sand at the start of COVID when there were only a few cases..." are now all, "The fact that three members of Congress and four big-city mayors [or whatever we're up to now] openly embrace socialism means nothing!"
At any moment, IEE (pretty sure this is IEE's shtick) will say something about how humans are pattern-seeking creatures, which is true, and how pattern recognition is sometimes erroneous, which is also true, and then by some strange transitive property will conclude that *this* pattern is therefore not a pattern.
And furthermore! The idea that today's American right is way over there with Hitler - good Lord, man, Trump is a Clintonian Democrat! Compare the policies. I know that the commenter I'm referencing is, or at least talks like, a socialist, but is he also blind?
"Original Mike - I think things are trending in the other direction and NYC is an outlier."
Do you think things are trending in the opposite direction in the democrat party? If so, can you make a case for it?
While making said case, include Platner and El-Sayed.
RCOCEAN II said...
" Ike was Ok with a 90 percent tax rate. And massive inheritance taxes. I'm with Eisenhower. He was the real American."
You and Bernie know nothing about how the 1950s marginal tax rates worked. A person paid 91% tax rate of income over $200,000, that is 2 million in today's dollars. Less than 10,000 eve paid that marinal rate.
“Fascists, on the other hand, used carrot and stick to get the largest companies to do what they wanted. “
The Trump admin using tax dollars to buy government stakes: 9.9% of Intel, 15% of MP Materials, 5% Lithium Americas, golden share in U.S. Steel, plus SandboxAQ, GlobalFoundries & more. Taxpayer-funded partners in big business — sounds like state capitalism with communist characteristics.
Billy keeps removing all doubt
How many here would continue to work after a 91% pay cut? Vacation time!
"You and Bernie know nothing about how the 1950s marginal tax rates worked. Less than 10,000 eve paid that marinal rate."
After a brief internet search...
In 1958, an extremely small fraction—less than one-tenth of one percent—of U.S. individual income tax returns were subject to the maximum marginal rate of 91%.The 91% rate only applied to the portion of an individual's taxable income exceeding $400,000 for single filers (equivalent to roughly $4.3 million today. Because of this high threshold, very few taxpayers reached it, and those who did often utilized various tax deductions and shelters to lower their overall effective tax rate to an average of around 42%.
When the GOP gets curb-stomped in the upcoming midterm elections, the GOP party in-fighting will begin in earnest. Trump will be a lame-duck and won’t have the power to primary his GOP opponents anymore. There will be GOP criticism of Trump’s Iran policy, his tariff policy, the massive corruption of his administration, his failed economic policy, the massive deficit, and much else.
It will be a circular firing squad and it will, along with the Democrats, keep the massive failures of the Trump administration and the GOP firmly in mind for the 2028 election and a new period in the wilderness for the GOP. Trump’s base is dying, literally and figuratively, and most MAGA supporters will acknowledge (at least privately) that Trump failed in many areas and ultimately didn’t make America great again in their eyes or usher in a new golden age as he promised only he could do.
For the Democrats to be successful, they need to focus on the pragmatic, not the ideological. Most Americans are not ideological and are tired of dogmatic politicians, even in these highly partisan times. Mamdani’s success is not because suddenly democratic socialism is popular, but because he focused on pragmatic solutions to clearly defined issues that people are facing. But what works in New York won’t work for Democrats elsewhere.
But Democrats will be successful across virtually every demographic by running on their pragmatism vs. GOP failed ideology. I suspect GOP incumbent support for Trump in the past will come to be a political liability. The other thing that will help Democrats is running on a positive message vs. the GOP dystopian narrative.
Ultimately, Trump is a cult of personality built on a narcissistic-codependent relationship with MAGA voters. It’s not something another politician can step into. And there isn’t any MAGA politician out there with the same rhetorical resonance and name recognition that Trump had. It’s important to remember that Trump attracted millions of voters that didn’t show up to vote when he wasn’t on the ballot. Those voters are up for grabs and are unlikely to vote again in the same numbers.
It may also be the case, despite the economy not being nearly as bad as the Great Depression, that the Trump era leaves a bad taste that lingers for a long time- decades even- as happened with Republicans after the Great Depression.
It’s important to remember that before Trump ran in 2016, the Republicans were facing a bleak electoral outlook. George W. Bush wondered if he would be the last Republican president elected in his lifetime. Demographics favored Democrats. That is still the case in presidential elections, particularly with younger voters who may hold unfavorable views of the GOP for a long time just as baby boomers did after Watergate.
"I'll have what she's having."
"How many here would continue to work after a 91% pay cut?"
You do know how a progressive income tax works, don't you? It's okay if you don't, even Dust Bunny Queen (who claims to be a retired financial advisor) didn't know.
I'm in the highest tax bracket. Explain it to me.
Fredo didn't understand your comment so he thinks nobody else did, either.
The "circuar firing squad" has already commenced.
"As Newsweek reported, a viral video emerged showing openly gay California State Senator Scott Wiener getting some very rough treatment while attending San Francisco’s Trans March on Friday.
The footage shows Wiener getting screamed at and mobbed by rallygoers. Loud profanities can be heard throughout the two-minute video as the attendees slam him as a Zionist and his position on Gaza.
Weiner is the most radially left elected politician in the country.
When are they opening the Gulag?
"Does someone in Kansas know or care about the politics of some random representative from nyc?"
We are here talking about it everyday, and my X feed is relentless on it.
I'm in the highest tax bracket. Explain it to me.
Let's say we have tax rates of 10% on the first $50,000 of income and 50% on the second $50,000. If you make $100,00, your effective tax rate is 30%, not 50% (the 50% is only charged on income higher than $50,000).
He wasn't serious, Freder.
If you want to see the circular firing squad, and need to feel that warm and fuzzy love from the left, here it is. It gets pretty rough half way through.
https://twitter.com/i/status/2070677434845077698
"He wasn't serious, Freder."
Who is "he"?
baghoh20
So what happens say in July, when you have already made enough to reach the top marginal rate? How much of your next paycheck do you really keep?
From
Neo:
"And although I think this is totally obvious and goes without saying, it’s still refreshing to hear someone like New York City DSA cochair Gustavo Gordillo be so honest about methods and goals:
“We’re using the Democratic Party as a ballot-access vehicle, not because we share its goals,” Gordillo boldly stated. “We build our own organization, get elected under the Democratic label, caucus with Democrats when it’s useful, and push our own agenda from the inside.”
Here’s the kicker — the line that should have House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries losing sleep at night and/or wetting himself: “We see the Democratic establishment as an obstacle, not a home.”
As I said, this has been quite obvious for some time.
Also, the NY DSA is coming for Kathy Hochul, who is obviously not radical enough.]"
To help me out more to understand this, after you reach the threshold to be taxed at 91%, how much of the money you make the rest of the year do you keep?
Freder Frederson said...
["try and prove him wrong"]
"Who, exactly, has called for nationalization of industry or confiscating personal property? Unless "communism" is anything you don't like."
Zohran Mandami:
“Seize the Means of Production”: Victor Davis Hanson Shares How Mamdani Intends to Achieve “His Ultimate Aim”
"During a Young Democratic Socialists of America winter conference in 2021, Mamdani appeared on the livestream as a guest speaker. Attending for an over 40-minute session, Mamdani said that while some issues like Medicare and eliminating student debt have “popular” support in the U.S., others, like “the end goal of seizing the means of production” don’t have the same support “at this very moment.”
Just in case...
I did a "< / a >" in case the link didn't close. It did anyway, so , whew.
Pius agnostic wrote: Dang, there's blood in the water today here at Althouse blog.
Yes. The "Progressives" here are working hard to show us that taxing the crap out of people will help us avoid Communism.
Unlike italics, links close themselves. Go figure.
Who here believes Dust Bunny Queen doesn't understand marginal and effective tax rates? Not I.
I used to work with (mostly) guys from all different nationalities. One project, we had 53 nations represented. Interestingly, Norwegians and Brits really seem to like working overseas. Once you get to know them, you find out why. With the tax laws at the time, if you stayed out of country for more than half the year, your income tax became extremely low, maybe even zero. But working overseas projects, which pay nice, fat, away-from-home salaries, this means that you would be taxed over 60%, maybe higher, if I recall correctly. So they had very strong incentives to count those days out-of-country. When times were busy and their services were in demand, it could even determine which projects they decided to work on. And if their away times were coming up short, some of them would plan extensive vacations in inexpensive places like Panama or Costa Rica. Effectively, they could save a lot of money by fishing and drinking beer.
Of course, the USA taxes you wherever you make your money. It makes a lot of people think twice before getting a green card (I've had colleagues turn them down, when they find out this unhappy fact). Sometimes if I took an assignment in a real sh*thole, they would gross up your pay to cover the tax impact of your project bonus pay.
"Democrat pragmatism" - that's quite a turn of phrase!
I suppose it is "pragmatic" - for the elected officials anyway - to propose untenable, unsustainable bandaids of free stuff to get voters to elect you. Just as it's "pragmatic" to ensure that you have a sympathetic press that will present the current economy as Depression-like even though in moments of inexplicable candor, such as IEE's above, they admit that it's nowhere close, in order to *stay* elected.
And parse this: "It’s important to remember that before Trump ran in 2016, the Republicans were facing a bleak electoral outlook." Closest I can get to deriving the "importance" of this observation is that IEE, like Emanuel, believes that demographics is destiny - so hey, nothing new there; identitarians don't tend to come up with new insights.
"If you want to see the circular firing squad, and need to feel that warm and fuzzy love from the left, here it is."
LOL! My favorite part is that the pyrsen videoing praises Weiner's pro-tranny politics with a high-pitched sissy voice which then drops about 9 octaves as soon as xe starts ranting about "Gaza". Very reminiscent of Nancy Grace's encounter with the tranny when the creature asked Grace in the femmiest tone to denounce her beliefs about mutilating children, and when she declined the dude in a dress started threatening her in a voice that sounded like Bubba Smith. Just everything about the Death To America Democrat Party is complete bullshit, up to and including the sound of their voices.
Grok tells me that in 1860, a healthy slave could cost the plantation as low as 5% of output, but over their lifetime costs totaled about 40 - 60% of output.
If your boss told you that on September 1st your pay would be cut to 9% of normal, I wonder how he would get you to show up?
Grok tells me that although few people would likely show up, it would be legal in an at-will state with no union or contract in place as long as you still got minimum wage, so you got that going for ya.
"If your boss told you that on September 1st your pay would be cut to 9% of normal, I wonder how he would get you to show up?"
Hence, payroll deduction.
They're not turning Communist. They've been that way since at least the New Deal. They started coming out of the closet after we stopped one Communist takeover in Asia and it looked like we might do it again.
Remember the late 60s?
cook says "democrats aren't communists, they are Right Wingers"
however; cook has explicitly stated that ALL PEOPLE ON EARTH are right wingers to him..
Obama... rightwinger
Bernie Sanders.. rightwinger
Raúl Castro.. rightwinger
Fidel Castro.. rightwinger
Che Guevara.. rightwinger
Mao .. rightwinger
Stalin.. rightwinger
Lenin.. rightwinger
Serious Question for cook..
Pol Pot? was HE a rightwinger? or was he a leftist, but Not a True Communist?
Trump threatens 100% tariff on any country that imposes digital services tax ~ Reuters
Empty threats. The US Supreme Court has already told him he doesn't have the power to do that and his party is about to lose control of the Congress.
Agent Orange has not done one thing right. Not one. His incompetence is exceptional.
Trump is deranged. He has now become a cartoon caricature of Senator Joe McCarthy.
Yer a fraud, lonejustus.
Discussions of the differences between socialism and communism are strictly academic. They have nothing to do with the actuality of (so called) socialist or communist regimes which end up being feudalistic.
And… you’re a LIAR.
Seems to me the Supreme Court ruled that the administration could not use the particular statute they were relying on in order to impose tariffs without congressional approval. Wasn't that how it went? And the administration said that it would pivot to another approach. I haven't been keeping track of how all that went or is going, though.
Just curious, how does a party expel a group of people that has invaded it without proper vetting and permission? ICE? CBP? Antifa?
Really? Former lifetime Republican solo just us is now denying their are communists running as democrats. It seems he was a liar all along. Who didn’t know?
"...Just curious, how does a party expel a group of people that has invaded it without proper vetting and permission?..."
It seems inconceivable to me that the party brain trust could not see the process playing out. Candidates must register with the party, and then must register to run in the election. How is it possible this slipped below the party radar?
I can see how it slipped beneath the Democrat voter's radar. Nobody bothers to vote in primaries. It's a huge unregistered flaw in the process, and it's resulted in a bunch of Democrats running as Republicans, getting elected, and behaving as RINOs. Some of them don't even bother to pretend.
And while this farce has been playing out, the same tactic has been used against Progressives, only more out in the open. You won't get me to believe they were somehow unaware. The Democrat party is the party of obedience. It seems to me that the party leadership is okay with it, but don't want to alienate the squares. Not yet, anyway. Give it a few more voting cycles, I bet that's what they're thinking. They'll be voting for Socialists forever, as long as we call them Democrats, and promise not to be Republican.
The party that pushed Hillary aside, that pushed Bernie aside, that pushed Joe aside, is fully capable of shutting down these Communist small fries. If they don't, it isn't because they can't; it's because they choose not to.
So here is IEEE's pitch for Democrats earlier in this thread. Quote: So apart from Universal healthcare, affordable education, universal childcare, better public schools, improved public transport, stronger environmental investment, fairer taxation, higher wages, stronger workers’ rights, paid family leave, paid sick leave, affordable housing, lower prescription costs, better infrastructure, universal broadband, reduced inequality, stronger safety nets, better mental health support, lower homelessness, less medical bankruptcy, improved social mobility, stronger consumer protections, and more investment in long-term public good …. Why would socialism be attractive to Americans?
/ Close quote. Notice how he does not say how this is going to be paid for. Notice how it's all "Free stuff gimme dat." Notice that Trump said the exact same thing: Communism is super popular that first year. All that free stuff! What happens next? Well, as we all know, it's always the fault of those capitalist running dogs when utopia as promised by leftists never gets here. So we just have to start shooting the sabateurs, right? Maybe take a few more of those obstacles like freedoms out of the way.... give Dear Leader a few more powers. Just like Papa Stalin!
Remember: Democrats have a statue of Lenin. They never, ever want to tear that down. Washington? Lincoln? They tear them down. But not Lenin!
Remember, Rich is a conservative.
Reading what MadTownGuy quoted at 4:41pm, I wonder:
Can the Democratic Party sue to have a candidate removed from the Democratic line on the ballot, if the candidate openly states that he or she is not a Democrat and despises what the Democrats stand for? Even if they won the nomination by winning a primary, isn't that prima facie evidence that they won the primary under false pretenses, that they shouldn't even have been allowed on the primary ballot?
Will the national or state leaders of the Democrats do this, or are they lying when they say they aren't just sneakier Socialists/Communists themselves? And will they win the lawsuits? That may depend on whether any of the DSAs made their statements about just using the Democrats before or after they were put on the primary ballots. If before, then the 'mainstream' Democrats should have sued to keep them off the primary ballots.
Pulling out one bit of the laundry list of socialist bennies, "fairer taxation": who knew they were for a flat tax?!
Alternatively, it's about time they realized that the extremely progressive nature of American income tax is unfair, and the lower four quintiles need to be paying their fair share.
(For some reason I'm more acerbic than usual today. I have Tone. I'll try to get back to normal tomorrow.)
"Less well publicized were primaries for various races for the State Assembly and Senate. The DSA endorsed candidates in ten races, either challenging incumbents or vying for open seats. Of those, eight won, one lost, and one race remains too close to call" https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2026-6-24-in-new-york-the-democrats-go-completely-crazy
Here is where I want to ask our leftists if they agree with their progressive hero Woodrow Wilson... who jailed commies. Ask Eugene Deb.
More modern: theres a letter floating around by 12 or 13 Democrats pledging to fight against the doctrines of the communists taking over their party. Why, pray tell, have only 12 or 13 of them signed it? And why has Fetterman been the only Democrat in the Senate who has spoken out against these people, if, as Freder assures us, they are just the "radical fringe" and no one need worry about them. Then surely the rest of his party is denouncing them? Oh... nope, they are not.
Is Bernie Sanders radical fringe?
Is AOC radical fringe?
Cuz if I'm not mistaken, Bernie and AOC are thrilled.
"Pulling out one bit of the laundry list of socialist bennies, "fairer taxation": who knew they were for a flat tax?!"
When they say "fairer taxation", they mean "we'll decide what's fair."
Regarding my comment above (we'll decide...), I'm watching (sort of) "The Empire Strikes Back" and this line from Darth Vader seems appropriate:
"I am altering the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further."
Jamie said...
"..it's about time they realized that the extremely progressive nature of American income tax is unfair, and the lower four quintiles need to be paying their fair share.."
let's ask our resident lefties.. WHAT is "the rich"'s "fair share"?
cook? IEE? mark? lonejustice?
what do YOU think "the rich" should pay?
please let us know;
a) the percentage of their income that should be taken..
b) the percentage of total taxes that should come from "the rich"
and finally..
c) what do YOU consider "the rich"?
thanx!
7:42 = Original Mike
Nailed it.
In Colorado - the dems are falling all over themselves trying to out communist each other.
Bennett(D) called himself a Bolshevik. You know -those radical communists that threw the only slightly less leftist radical Mensheviks, in gulags
In CO - the dems are all screeching about defunding police and ICE.
Also in CO - the Dem primary consists of two a-holes - Bennett and Weiser - Both a campaign competition as to how much they are devoted to their HATRED of Trump, and who hates Trump more.
Nothing about Coloradoans - other than tripe.
Someone should make a Bennett/Weiser ad - depicting them as sock puppets - both screaming at each other "I hate Trump more!"... "No I hate Trump more!" and on and on....
The strangeness of Trump has forced the radical left to play their cards sooner than they wanted They hoped to ride the Mensheviks for another five years, carefully building an Overton Window that could move them mainstream at some future hinge point. Now they have to reveal themselves in all their uglitude without the necessary battlespace prep.
Freder Frederson said...
"try and prove him wrong"
"Who, exactly, has called for nationalization of industry or confiscating personal property? Unless "communism" is anything you don't like."
Free transportation and rent control.
"let's ask our resident lefties.. WHAT is "the rich"'s "fair share"?
cook? IEE? mark? lonejustice?
what do YOU think "the rich" should pay?"
You're going to have a discussion with a tick about how much of your blood they're going to take?
Good luck with that.
Trump is deranged. He has now become a cartoon caricature of Senator Joe McCarthy.
You know, I'll never understand a person who claims to have voted for a candidate three times ... and then spends every waking moment making up the stupidest and most outlandish things about the candidate he voted for.
Unless, of course, said person's been lying the entire time.
Democrats already control healthcare and schools - to the point where the schools are pure shit.
Remember: Democrats have a statue of Lenin.
"Where do the Democrats have a statue of Lenin? Prove it! Got a link for that?!!!!! Or did the monkeys flying out of your butt tell you that?!!!!! Reee!!!!" - Freder
The statue is in Freemont, asshole. I pissed on it the last time I was in Seattle ... which was a long time ago as the city's a shithole now and not worth the effort to make the hour drive.
"Only the NYC people are commies! Not the rest of the party!" In my local primary, just this past tuesday, we had four democrat party candidates. All 4: "abolish ICE! Abolish Police!" Three of them specifically praised Mamdani. One of them was a Somali Muslim, the guy who won the state Democrat convention as the nominee but still had to go to the primary. He was advocating more healthcare centers, more everything that Minnesota is doing.
Newsome and his communist buddies in LA are now openly demanding to seize homes and redistribute them to their political allies. Is that communist, Freder?
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The Pride parade in Providence, Rhode Island featured a bloody steamroller behind an effigy of Providence Mayor Smiley & a rainbow guillotine poised to decapitate him.
So loving.
Mayor Brett Smiley is gay but it doesn't matter. Leftist violence comes for everyone eventually.
https://x.com/Nicoletta0602/status/2070316043919102214?s=20
Somebody call Bernie Sanders quick...The oligarchy is taking over the Progressive party!!!
https://nypost.com/2026/06/27/us-news/george-soros-funneled-staggering-103m-into-midterms-so-far/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter
Trump is right. The Democrat Party has abandoned God and embraced godless communism. For those who still believe in faith and want to learn more, Online Quran Classes in London are available here: Online Quran Classes in London.
Blame Obama. He was the slide ruler to this. Groomed by his grandfather, Frank Marshall Davis, his professors, then Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the latter of whom kept Michelle on a leash.
Dr Weevil said...
"Can the Democratic Party sue to have a candidate removed from the Democratic line on the ballot, if the candidate openly states that he or she is not a Democrat and despises what the Democrats stand for? Even if they won the nomination by winning a primary, isn't that prima facie evidence that they won the primary under false pretenses, that they shouldn't even have been allowed on the primary ballot?"
I'm not certain whether they can, but they probably won't. The long march through our institutions includes the political parties, especially the (D) Party, and the radicals who have taken leadership are not likely to put the stops to the grand plan.
If four David Duke clones won Republican primaries in podunk counties in Texas, every Dem politician and MSM talking head would be trumpeting it constantly and calling for every national Republican to denounce them, and proclaiming that the dark night of Republican fascism is descending upon America. That is politics. The Dems own Momdani and Platner and Bass and these open commies in NYC, and Trump is not going to let them skate.
Original Mike said...
"Remember, Rich is a conservative."
And he hates this country with a white hot passion.
"And he hates this country with a white hot passion."
Don't all self-described Lifelong Republicans?
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