Vance "intervened"? Vance published a statement. He said something. (We talked about it here, yesterday.)
The London Times piece is by David Charter. Excerpt:
The London Times piece is by David Charter. Excerpt:
The vice-president feels ties with Britain personally — he announced himself to the world in his 2016 memoir Hillbilly Elegy by writing that “to understand me, you must understand that I am a Scots-Irish hillbilly at heart”....
Trump also feels a personal connection to the UK, directly through his Scottish mother but also ideologically through a romanticised view of Empire and Anglo-Saxon culture. Both of these are code for his core supporters of a time when both nations were more white and, in Britain’s case, more globally dominant.
The UK has become, for Trump and his senior officials, a warning to American voters of how a once powerful nation declined by pandering to liberalism. Individual incidents such as the murder of Nowak are used to bolster this narrative....
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Edit: "Individual incidents such as the murder of Nowak are used to bolster this narrative" . . strike "are used to."
They left out "without evidence". That's basic gaslighting 101.
Perhaps Vance feels, like Brett Weinstein and his wife, that the West is worth saving.
https://youtu.be/gocQpziJT24?si=Y-fOWo-H4J9YfKFG
JD Vance has aged five years in one year of office, without having lifted a finger to do anything. What’s his secret?
From a strictly psychological and unconscious point of view he seems to be quickly growing very tired of himself.
Both of these are code for his core supporters of a time when both nations were more white and, in Britain’s case, more globally dominant.
Reminds of that old "dog whistle" trope about racism. I always enjoyed the rejoinder to that one: if you can hear the dog whistle...
His "core supporters" probably think of the British Empire as often as they think of the Roman Empire. Which, I might add, actually has been near the forefront of my mind as I read Thucydides' history of the Pelopenesian war. That book is actually quite interesting. It really de-romanticizes both Athens and Sparta. Also the context with which he uses race. Very much a breath of fresh air even though the thing is something like 2500 years old.
JD didn't kneel down, like Starmer did for Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl
Remember when Starmer took a knee? Remember when UK's Labour Party sent people to the US to campaign for Harris?
Spare me concern now about intervening.
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"...The alleged degeneration of London through mass immigration is an oft-repeated article of faith among leading figures in President Trump’s Maga (Make America Great Again) movement....."
The rumors of England's demise are greatly exaggerated, apparently. But I note they didn't adhere to the style guide of using 'without evidence', or 'debunked conspiracy theory'. Just 'alleged'. The jury is still out.
Nowak was killed by the police. The foreign invader was just an accomplice. Democrats are doing the same thing in the United States.
Just like the democrats killing Kirk and almost killing Trump we see examples every day where democrats and their foreign invader allies are killing the people native to our countries so that their globalist masters can get cheap slave labor.
Keep pushing democrats. We see you now. Starmer has recruited a foreign army to invade Britain and attack his political opponents just like democrats are trying to do in the United States.
"JD didn't kneel down, like Starmer did for Saint George Floyd"
Yeah, blow it out your ear, Starmer.
It’s not like JD Vance took a knee with a photo op to show his support for protestors, as well as make a statement.
In British usage, an 'intervention' can just mean intervening in the conversation. Making a speech in Parliament, for example. CC, JSM
"Both of these are code for his core supporters..." I feel so clever being part of these core supporters. We communicate in code - like secret agents.
Both of these are code for his core supporters of a time when both nations were more white and, in Britain’s case, more globally dominant.
Oh, please. What facile BS.
"Intervened" is the wrong word. It should have been "pounced."
People are just now realizing that the appropriate response to an accusation of racism is: So?
Keir Starmer has provided an invaluable service to Americans by disabusing us of the misapprehension that everyone with a posh Brit accent is smart.
Starmer is engaged with saving Britain from the words of the likes of Vance and Musk. Meanwhile, sticks and stones from elsewhere are destroying the country. It is so tempting to dismiss Starmer and his ilk and American Democrats as stupid. That is dangerous. They are evil.
The Times is garbage
He has twitter feeds with the bulwark not a serious person
“Incredibly the judge in the trial ruled the killer’s own recording of his murder, “too disturbing to be shown” in court. Digwa did not call for an ambulance after stabbing his victim but did take pictures and record Henry Nowak. However, the killer’s own video was NOT shown in court! The footage the court ruled too disturbing to show was five minutes of Vickrum Digwa filming the 18-year-old as he bled to death on the pavement”(CTH)
Nigel Farage interview
https://youtu.be/VkhQ3Qje78Q?si=F-ClL44EhHQh7t3f
Susan Kokinda smiles.
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Starmer took a knee in support of George Floyd, so I don’t want to hear squat from him about politicians opining on the affairs of other countries.
Starmer is pushing a digital ID requirement to use cell phones.
Let that sink in while you watch him use foreign invaders to attack his political opponents.
Try being a Jew in Britain these days.
The only difference between labour and the national socialist workers party is about 5 years.
Herr Schtarmer doesn’t have enough sense to realize his ass is biscuit.
Yes but burnham or rayner arent any better
I suspect Eva Marie, that if they showed the video, everyone would hear exactly who was making racist remarks.
Politics operates in the same way whatever side you're on. The trick is to portray your own side as righteous and the other side as devious, conspiratorial and destructive. So George Floyd was used to "bolster a narrative." Now it's Nowak's turn. Sometimes the narratives are true. Sometimes the events are disturbing, even monstrous. Ignoring or dismissing that is part of the propagandist's job.
@Leland:
I hadn’t thought of that. It was probably less about protecting the jury and more about insulating the professional class the judge is part of from the kind of anger the full video might provoke.
They always protect their own - and criminalize any attempt by us to protect our own.
In what way is Vance "stir[ring] up division?" Who are the two sides that are being divided? Be explicit about what the two sides believe, and how do Vance's words act as a wedge between them?
"Stop being divisive."
"Okay, you got me. I'll be a unifier. I'll treat you exactly like I want to be treated. And you'll do likewise to me, right?"
"No, that's divisive!"
CC, JSM
ONLY CORRUPT LEFTISTS ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
My hatred for Starmer is right up there with my hatred for maddow and Walz.
"Stir up division"
You fucking leftist assholes are addicted to division. so you can all go f yourselves.
I have vivid memories of UK politicians "intervening" on the subject of George Floyd.
Achilles said...
Nowak was killed by the police. The foreign invader was just an accomplice. Democrats are doing the same thing in the United States.
Murderers are going to murder. That's expected. What the police did is worse because it was done under color of law.
Is it official law enforcement policy that White lives do not matter?
Since Starmer and the police chiefs will never kneel for Henry Nowak, will UK citizens do what needs to be done to demand justice?
Which is more likely, that Sikhs are required to disarm or that all citizens have the right to carry a similar knife?
Trick question. Neither will happen.
…starting in on the JD Vance is literally Hitler?
pious agnostic said,
In what way is Vance "stir[ring] up division?" Who are the two sides that are being divided? Be explicit about what the two sides believe, and how do Vance's words act as a wedge between them?
I find it amazing how ignorant so many are of the psychological dynamic of projection. Starmer here could be the face of the dictionary definition.
As distinguished from The Times, The Telegraph sees things Vance's way. That's the reason I subscribe to the latter and not to the former.
"Which is more likely, that Sikhs are required to disarm or that all citizens have the right to carry a similar knife?"
If a man can become a woman just by claiming it to be so, why can't British citizens who wish to carry knives claim to be sikhs?
Asking for a friend...
In what way is Vance "stir[ring] up division?"
By talking about things that certain people would desperately like to ignore.
I am imagining two Brit cops dealing with an altercation between an Englishman and a Sikh, "You take the blonde, and I'll take the one with the turban." (cultural reference).
This is a British MSM variation on "Republicans Pounce". So, the Times and Starmer want to talk about Republican vance "pouncing: and why he's doing it, instead of addressing the issue, namely the UK Police's role in Nowak's death, and the 2 tier justice system that discriminates against Native born Britons.
Funny, I don't remember any British Press analysis of why Starmer "Pounced" on the George Floyd death in 2020. He even had a picture of him "Kneeling in protest" over Floyd's death. which happened in Minnasota. A place so far from Starmer's roundhouse its hilarious.
I wish some smart person had done an analysis of the Elite White support for BLM and Geroge Floyd in 2020. Both UK and USA. This support even extended to supporting riots, looting, and about 60 deaths.
I can remember that clown Mitt Romney marching in support in his $1000 suit, singing "We shall overcome". Again, I'd love to know the REAL reason, and not the fake ones that were given.
But when Democrats and Establishment Republicans pounce - its not about the pounce its about the issue.
BTW, i looked into the sentencing of the murdered of Henry Nowak, and unlike the USA, Judges in the UK can't just give Killers probation or a five year sentence. The UK Guildlines more or less required a 21 year jail sentence before parole can be granted.
However, the judge decided that the killing was not "premeditated" or "racially motivated" which would have required even more jail time. In my opinion, chasing someone down to kill them IS premeditated.
"Stirring up division" Just means I don't like what you said.
Because mitt thinks the croc will eat him last
The Rt. Hon. Sir Kier Starmer: "The US vice-president is the most outspoken member of an administration evangelistic about encouraging Christian nationalism in the West and opposing an influx of people from other cultures, with a particular focus on the UK."
Starmer knows full well that it's either Christian nationalism or Islamic nationalism in the United Kingdom. One will prevail, and the other will vanish because the Muslims cannot live in peace with the infidels. Their theology forbids it. One will prevail, the other will vanish into seritude if not extinction. There can be only one, and the Muslims have a tremendous head start. And Starmer and his treasonous Labour Party care not a whit.
“Try being a Jew in Britain these days.” Try being a Jew anywhere but Israel these days. Some in the American diaspora believe they can escape their Jewishness by proclaiming themselves “anti-Zionist.” They are a “stiff-necked people” (Exodus 32:9, etc.) who have been largely shielded from the ugliest, most violent side of antisemitism by American law. They will increasingly be confronted by irrational, lawless Democrats and Islamists for whom “Zionism” is merely an excuse for hating Jews.
"Stirring up division" Just means I don't like what you said."
No. "Stirring up division" means "You've spoken a truth I am desperate to suppress."
5:43: ‘… for whom “Zionism” is merely an excuse for hating Jews.’ I should have added, “since there is no rational basis for hating Jews.”
Starmer, like democrats, will blame everyone and everything else long before he looks in the mirror.
It takes a village to rape the british girls.
Really there are thousands if not millions of people part of a leftist movement that just need to go.
Mary Beth said...
“Remember when Starmer took a knee? Remember when UK's Labour Party sent people to the US to campaign for Harris?
Spare me concern now about intervening.”
What she said. The Brits are like the Democrats. It different when they do it because shut up.
"tcrosse said...
As distinguished from The Times, The Telegraph sees things Vance's way. That's the reason I subscribe to the latter and not to the former."
Headline:
"Trump ally unleashes riot police to quell rural workers’ revolt
Bolivian president cracks down against unrest as protests against soaring inflation mount"
Bolivian President cracks down yet Trump somehow first word in headline, and in story..
I should have added, “since there is no rational basis for hating Jews.”
Ask Rcocean. I'm sure he can explain it.
"Ask Rcocean. I'm sure he can explain it."
I'd sure like to hear it.
Bet he won't, though.
The problem isn't "Starmer". The Parlimentary system isnt the US system. Starmer isn't "The boss" who can fire his cabinet. Get rid of Starmer, and you'll get another Labour leader who will have a better personality but the same policies.
The problem is the Labour party and the Tories. On this issue they are one and the same.
The UK voters were so sick of the lying, elitist Tories they voted Labour in. And Labour showed they were even worse. I hope enough UK voters are smart enough to go for Reform in the next election - its their last chance. But trusting the voters to be even half-way intelligent is always an iffy proposition.
No they split with reform dont you know anything
ocean knows one thing.
"Trump ally unleashes riot police to quell rural workers’ revolt
Bolivian president cracks down against unrest as protests against soaring inflation mount"
I was wondering about that. The story was written by a DC correspondent. It seems uncharacteristic of the Torygraph.
No the torygraph is orange deranged
"Christian Nationalism" is one of those terms that the Left employs incessantly but yet it's hard to find anyone on the Right who self identifies as such.
Since the Left comes with a such a template of where ideologies fit in the historical narrative, especially the ideologies of their enemies, they're awful at describing what's in front of their eyes. The standard Left-wing ideas about the historical realities of Fascism come to mind. For example, you want to confuse a Lefty? Just tell him that German National Socialists never referred to themselves as Fascists. Italian (and other) Fascists did, and sometimes (rarely) referred to themselves as "National Syndicalists", but not "National Socialists".
The police left Nowak bleeding on the ground for an hour. The Sikh didn't call an ambulance for ten minutes, videoing Henry Nowak bleeding on the ground and asking for help. It just seems to me that Nowak could have been saved because there was very high class trauma unit nearby, five minutes away, and if he hadn't been left bleeding for an hour and ten minutes that trauma unit could have saved him. I think the police statement that Nowak couldn't have been saved refers to the very few moments before he died when the police finally realized he had been stabbed. But if they had listened to him and realized sooner, he could have been saved. They didn't listen because they were trained to disregard any white man accused of racism. This was a death due to bias. Prove me wrong.
>I was wondering about that. The story was written by a DC correspondent. It seems uncharacteristic of the Torygraph.<
Well, this explains it:
"Poppy Evanna Severina Wood was an English half-blood witch. The daughter of Severus Snape and Petunia Dursley, she attended Hogwarts from 1990 to 1997,"
I've been "lurking" here on and off since our hostess first did a fill in for Insta.
While my in ninth decade memory may be less than accurate, I can remember Althouse religiously posting Acela corridor media, venturing across the Atlantic to give us the Guardian and now the London Times. I'm not aware of anything even randomly, let alone consistently from Daily Signal, Free Beacon, American Greatness, New Criterion, or, my favorite (tho' can disagree on occasion) bad catitude on substack. Seemingly living in a bubble with a houseboy and grok!
to understand me, you must understand that I am a Scots-Irish hillbilly at heart
Hillbillies unite!
starting in on the JD Vance is literally Hitler?
Right? We're not even at the mid-terms yet. Not even sure the average Englishman knows who JD Vance is. Maybe?
Vance is clearly running for president in 2028, and kicking the PC horror show in the UK is a great move for him. The anti-white bigotry is obvious to us, and we're appalled by it. Racist laws and racist police are an abomination.
Starmer's an idiot. He's trying to veer shift to patriotism and how dare the USA criticize the UK? But his own citizens are criticizing the UK government. They're out in the streets protesting. His whole party got wiped out in the elections. He objects to people waving the UK flag, and now he's trying to fly it?
He's trying to blame foreigners for all the problems in the UK. And the foreigners are us!
JD Vance has now intervened in British politics, presumably because he doesn’t want to think about US domestic politics or US foreign policy, where the Trump administration is tanking.
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