May 13, 2026

Trump in China.

109 comments:

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Trump is so good at being his own press agent that we don't really notice Caroline Leavitt is out with her newborn.

Achilles said...

Xi: About that war in Iran... we are running out of Dollars to buy oil.

Trump: I know great isn't it?

Achilles said...

If you look at the timing of this visit I actually think it was planned to have the straight of Hormuz blockaded this long.

Ann Althouse said...

"the straight of Hormuz" — There's just one guy who's not gay.

Paul said...

Trump to Xi: You want oil? Ok we want Iran. Let's make a deal.

Joe Bar said...

What's with the horrible audio? Uncharacteristically bad.

Joe Bar said...

"the straight of Hormuz". Is this like NATO's Eastern Flank?

NKP said...

"the straight of Hormuz" — There's just one guy who's not gay. BRILLIANT.

There's an "update" of Blazing Saddles begging for a screenplay, if there ever was :-)

NKP said...

For a guy familiar with dodging bullets this visit is pretty damn ballsy. Try to picture Kamala. No, don't.

Achilles said...

NKP said...
For a guy familiar with dodging bullets this visit is pretty damn ballsy. Try to picture Kamala. No, don't.

At some point, we have to trust Rubio and Vance be able to pick up the pieces if the Democrats and Chinese worked together to kill Trump.

RCOCEAN II said...

Trump took quite a mob of Business -Finance guys with him. I don't know what good having Larry Fink along is gonna do for us Americans. It'll be good for Black stone though.

He'll have a lot to disuss with Xi. And will probably try to get Xi to help Trump with Iran. Maybe bribe him with another source of cheap oil. It will be interesting to see.

RCOCEAN II said...

Its cute seeing the cheerleaders on the sides. Who was in white? Was that the First Lady?

Joe Bar said...

"Only Nixon could go to China."

bagoh20 said...

This administration could change the direction of world history to one that's 100% better than where we were heading if crazy people would just let it happen. It's hard enough on it's own.

FredSays said...

I don’t see Xi. Quite a slight.

Original Mike said...

" Try to picture Kamala. No, don't."

I occasionally do, and it makes me shudder.

Leland said...

Would they have been successful as Dire Straights? The music would still be good, but perhaps people might be put off by the name.

Original Mike said...

Some of the cheerleaders are waving American flags. Interesting.

Howard said...

Nixon certainly paved the way. I have only one expectation for this Grand meeting of the superpower Masters of the Universe: faces will be saved.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

If you look at the timing of this visit I actually think it was planned to have the straight of Hormuz blockaded this long.

Yes, and Trump kept mentioning the upcoming trip to meet Xi. The only damage to USA by the extended blockade post-war is slightly higher gas prices. The cost to China and our lagging allies is much greater, far more painful. It comes at a time (as NYT likes to frame things) when China is already facing a contracting economy, a drop in overseas trade, mass firing of his Military Industrial "cabinet" for corruption (bad air defense weapons based on Russian designs) and civil unrest over lack of social services.

Trump might just walk away with an agreement to jointly patrol Hormuz to keep it open. Would this shock anyone?

RCOCEAN II said...

Nixon in China - 54 years ago.

Howard said...

Glad you people are so f****** stupid

It is not typical for a head of state to greet another visiting head of state on the tarmac upon arrival during a standard state visit.While a state visit is the highest level of diplomatic exchange, the formal welcome ceremony usually occurs later at a designated location rather than immediately at the airport.Standard Arrival ProtocolLower-Level Officials: Usually, the visiting leader is met on the tarmac by senior government officials, such as a Foreign Minister or the Chief of Protocol.The Official Welcome: The formal ceremony involving the host head of state (such as on the White House South Lawn or Horse Guards Parade in the UK) happens after the arrival, often the following day.Ambassadors: The ambassador of the guest country and the host country's ambassador are typically present on the tarmac.

Achilles said...

Original Mike said...
Some of the cheerleaders are waving American flags. Interesting.

China surrendered at the beginning. They immediately swore off sending weapons to Iran.

The only holdouts right now are the European Globalists and the democrat party.

We keep talking about deporting illegal foreigners. We should be talking about deporting traitors.

Peachy said...

Don't Trust Xi - Xi is assho.

DINKY DAU 45 said...

Trump greeted by the kitchen staff as he goes begging for XI to help him with IRAN because all our past allies dissed him, You break it you bought it. XI says Maybe i'll talk with him later. Weakest presidential visit in memory. XI just waiting for trump world to implode playing LONG GAME. Trump says XI is such a great man, rules over billion people with a iron fist. Kissing up ain't gonna do it here. Embarrassing, at least he didn't salute the cook :(

Howard said...

That's a terrible idea. Mike. We don't want China's Navy operating around our oil infrastructure.

Howard said...

I would like your idea Mike. If China would send money to Great Britain and France to have their 40 Nation flotilla provide the necessary defensive forces to keep the strait of Hormuz open.

RideSpaceMountain said...

"西为中用" 变为 "中为西用". We'll see who plays who...

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Joint patrols have a storied and successful history. I am simply thinking way outside the box to what Trump might do. Of course, predicting Trump is foolish. He is so predictably unpredictable.

(Except regarding flattery. His reflexively acquiescent response seems hard-wired in Trump.)

Howard said...

Not only are the straight hormones closed, carg Island hasn't had any ships being loaded for the past several days. Imagine not being able to have a bowel movement for several days. ExLax, STAT

bagoh20 said...

"Trump took quite a mob of Business -Finance guys with him. I don't know what good having Larry Fink along is gonna do for us Americans. It'll be good for Black stone though."

These people are incredibly powerful, individually and especially as a group (see Soros for example). The alternative of not including them would just doom Trump's efforts to make the U.S. dominant over a more peaceful, prosperous world. You can have them inside or outside, and as unpalatable as it is for many, it's much better with them pulling with us than against. Some may even be decent people who want the same as we do. I don't trust them all, but "keep your enemies close" has a strategy to it.

bagoh20 said...

Dinky would do this all so much better. He's not world renowned for international relation for nothing.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

The pipes are leaking oil into the strait now.

Freder Frederson said...

The only damage to USA by the extended blockade post-war is slightly higher gas prices.

Love how you call a 50% increase over two months "slightly higher". You probably also think lower the price of something from $600 to $10 is a 600% decrease.

bagoh20 said...
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Freder Frederson said...

Uh oh.

Freder Frederson said...

try again

Freder Frederson said...

Sorry about that.

bagoh20 said...

It's the business leaders in nearly every nation that control things indirectly. They fund the politics and who gets the best chances at power. That's why when Trump threatens financial responses to foreign politicians opposing him, the political leaders often flip and kiss his ass. They get calls from the real long term power centers telling them to knock it off or lose your job.

Original Mike said...

Howard said..."Glad you people are so f****** stupid

It is not typical for a head of state to greet another visiting head of state on the tarmac upon arrival during a standard state visit."


You people? I count one comment.

bagoh20 said...

"The pipes are leaking oil into the strait now."

Relax. I got this. Someone make me a sandwich, and I'll have this fixed in few minutes.

D.D. Driver said...
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D.D. Driver said...

Chinese oil tanker exits Strait of Hormuz, stops at Gulf of Oman, data shows

A lot of wishful thinking around here. The power of positive thinking, I guess.

Achilles said...

Freder Frederson said...
The only damage to USA by the extended blockade post-war is slightly higher gas prices.

Love how you call a 50% increase over two months "slightly higher". You probably also think lower the price of something from $600 to $10 is a 600% decrease.

You supported Joe Biden. You support the gas prices in California.

We know you want gas prices higher.

We know your concern here is only based on traitorous optics.

imTay said...

I wonder if China will agree to sell us unlimited rare earths, 5,000 lbs, I believe go to building an F-35, and supposedly many F-35s recently delivered had gym weights welded in where the radar should have gone, they are also required to build interceptor missiles, radars of all kinds, and China is the only source of these elements in commercial quantities, not because they have the ore, rare earths are not actually rare, but because they have the loose environmental laws and a couple of decades of development of refining techniques to produce them.

China has told it's refiners and banks to ignore US sanctions, it won't be long before countries facing fertilizer shortages due to Trump's reckless wars, are going to ignore sanctions against using Russian fertilizer, or fact famine, what a choice!

Trump had blundered into such a weak hand, and don't forget that Biden before him created a lot of his problems, and even the Houthis were able to drive off a carrier, light three F-18s, (all accidents, of course) not to mention that Iran is keeping them cowering a thousand miles off shore, so why should China, which has carrier killer missiles, and it has been shown by Iran what has always been known, that you can overwhelm an Arleigh Burke destroyer with missiles and drones in quantity, and one thing China can do is produce stuff in quantity, so Trump wanted to show up with the Iran and Venezuela heads in a bag and throw them on the table for this meeting and dictate terms... Well, it ain't gonna happen.

We need to get along with the other countries on this planet, not try to permanently dominate all of them.

imTay said...

Somebody should tell Trump that a permanent tax by the Iranians of Persian Gulf oil will make shale oil more competitive in world markets, kind of like a tariff.

bagoh20 said...

You either think that what Iran was planning for the future before we acted was real or not. If you believe it was, and still whine about temporary higher gas prices (that are still lower than under Biden), then that's just incredibly irresponsible, even if your complaint is that it hurts Trump politically. It's still a small price to pay for what needed done, would never be done by anyone else, and if left undone would eventually make current gas prices seem like a silly concern when Iran starts a devastating, possibly nuclear, war in the ME and takes complete control of the gulf.
If you don't think Iran had such plans, well, to me, that's delusional. You certainly have to believe it has some possibility, which is enough to make these gas prices still worth it.

Achilles said...

D.D. Driver said...
Chinese oil tanker exits Strait of Hormuz, stops at Gulf of Oman, data shows

A lot of wishful thinking around here. The power of positive thinking, I guess.

China is on board and knows its place.

It is the European globalists and the traitors inside the USA that are holding out.

Starmer is just the first European ruler to fall. The democrat traitors are going to watch their allies lose elections in Europe anytime they are allowed to happen.

imTay said...

Our strategy against China has been our Navy, and putting medium range missiles in island chains nearby, well, you can't bring a country to submit with missiles only, unless they are nuclear, and you won't wipe out their second strike capabiities, and our Navy beyond the submarines, which are still a fearsome weapon, has been shown to be obsolete.

We are going to have to spend trillions to update our military to keep doing what we have been doing, and meanwhile China and Russia are plowing ahead right now.

Achilles said...

We need to get along with the other countries on this planet, not try to permanently dominate all of them.

lol

China is 2 weeks from a complete food crisis and starvation riots.

Xi folded long ago. He isn’t as stupid as you are.

bagoh20 said...

"A lot of wishful thinking around here. The power of positive thinking, I guess."

You won't find a successful person lacking it, you just need quality risk assessment, and balls.

imTay said...

"China is on board and knows its place."

LOL, and it's not traitorous in a democracy to oppose a foreign policy of aggressive war on behalf of a foreign country. We didn't vote for these wars, we voted for peace, Trump ran on a platform of peace, so did Zelensky, BTW. The actual traitors are the ones who put the interests of. foreign countries ahead of our own.

imTay said...

China is not going sit around and hope that the crocodile eats it last.

Aggie said...

Given the choice between paying higher gasoline prices at the pump because (a) an accused corrupt government wants to muscle me into buying, against my better judgment and preferences, an electric vehicle so that I can quietly drive by solar farms and howling windmills that are greasing some plutocrat's pocket, or (b) an accused corrupt government wants to seize power from a hostile country that aspires to nuclear weapons and routinely underwrites terrorist activities in multiple other countries, including ours, I'll take (b) every time.

Lazarus said...

Less is sometimes more. Bringing a horde of billionaires and tech oligarchs with you makes you less impressive.

Mark said...

"China is 2 weeks from a complete food crisis and starvation riots."

What? Your claims are insane, Achilles, but lets hold you to them. Starvation riots in China by May 27, 2026 according to Achilles.

Fen said...

'Your claims are insane"

The question is not whether someone will dominate the world, the question is who that will be. Tell us who you prefer to America, then we can discuss sanity.

Peachy said...

All Business and Billionaires are bad bad bad - unless they support the Dems.
Funny part of all of this - The Chinese communists support and pay for propaganda and democratic destruction of the US.

RCOCEAN II said...

"The alternative of not including them would just doom Trump's efforts to make the U.S. dominant over a more peaceful, prosperous world."

LOL. Larry Fink is just a greedhead Finance guy. He has money to invest. That's it. We don't need him traveling with the POTUS trying get special favors so he and his rich buddies can make more $$$.

I dont worship banksters and hedge fund managers. They don't care about the USA. They care about $$. We should be taxing the fuck out them, and preventing them from bribing congressmen and getting special favors.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
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RCOCEAN II said...

People want to live in a fantasy world where "all them thar rich and powerful people" are up there looking out for the rest of us. And making us safe and secure. They're not. Go read the Epstein files.

Thats why all the elite has to do is finger some country as "The villian of the week" and all the gullible rubes hop on board & start playing risk. Why we gotta stop country X - or they'll CONQUER THE WORLD. Or we gotta play "The great game" and to clever foreign policy move ABC to stop country X from doing this or that.

And we're not going to war with China. China is not our military rival. They aren't going to invade Taiwan, and if they did, so what? Its part of China legally. Trump just increased the cap of Chinese Students in the USA by 300,000.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Love how you call a 50% increase over two months "slightly higher". You probably also think lower the price of something from $600 to $10 is a 600% decrease.

Boy that last part is dumb. Let's see how your math works out.

Good for you to find something to love, however you might want to put it in context, that Trump handed Biden an economy with gas under $3/gal and Biden for no reason at all drove it up to $4/gal. Now it is about 10-11% higher (4.00 * 0.11 = .44, gas went up 44 cents on average, now at $4.44/gal nat'l avg).

1. We know exactly why it's high now and that it will come back down when the blockade ends.
2. It is undeniable that our pain at the pump is nothing compared to EU, Japan, China, Cuba, etc.
3. Today's price is about the average for Joe's whole term, while Trump again brought it to under $3 ($2.50 some places) for a year right up until the blockade.

You never showed any appreciation for that enduring LOW price but are quick to bitch about it going slightly higher. Why not bitch about California's 50% surtax over pump price. You won't, because it goes to fund Democrats.

Michael Fitzgerald said...
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Michael Fitzgerald said...

Audio was bad but it sounded like they were singing The Village People's song Macho Macho Man.
Remember the reception China gave Purple Lips? They left his plane alone in the middle of the tarmac and he had to disembark by himself from the emergency exit and walk across the tarmac alone to ask a redcap for directions.

Strong horse in contrast to horse's ass

Freder Frederson said...

Boy that last part is dumb.

I am just echoing both Trump and RFK Jr. math.

Achilles said...

Mark said...
"China is 2 weeks from a complete food crisis and starvation riots."

What? Your claims are insane, Achilles, but let’s hold you to them. Starvation riots in China by May 27, 2026 according to Achilles

Democrats are so stupid that their only option is to pretend they don’t understand what was actually said.

You are just a retard trying to argue with himself because you are the only person stupid enough to lose.

China already surrendered. That is why Trump is in China.

You will also note the latest out of Russia/Ukraine. Russia is done but Zelensky is still pining for war.

Russia and China are ready to join the new Trump world order. The next 6 months is going to be spent carving up Davos and the European globalists and their traitor agents in the US.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Peachy, seems like half the Democrat party is on the China payroll these days.

narciso said...

There are flexible lesuo leasing arrangements

narciso said...

Mandarin for compromised

Known Unknown said...

"the straight of Hormuz" — There's just one guy who's not gay.

Siraj Hashmi is the Gay of Hormuz.

Known Unknown said...

"The democrat traitors are going to watch their allies lose elections in Europe anytime they are allowed to happen."

Except in Hungary and Poland.

bagoh20 said...

"Less is sometimes more. Bringing a horde of billionaires and tech oligarchs with you makes you less impressive."

I don't think most agree.

Howard said...

The final vote failed Even though three Republicans sided with the Democrats. Not exactly strengthening Trump's position in China.

"Three Republican senators broke with their leadership Wednesday and voted to advance a Democratic-sponsored resolution under the 1973 War Powers Act to halt the conflict with Iran unless Congress formally authorizes further military action.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) joined Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and almost every Senate Democrat in voting to advance the resolution directing President Trump to remove U.S. armed forces from hostilities against Iran."

narciso said...

Two possums and a honey badger

n.n said...

No one is gay in Hormuz. All are, however, waiting to trans.

Achilles said...

Howard said...
The final vote failed Even though three Republicans sided with the Democrats. Not exactly strengthening Trump's position in China.

Don’t pretend like any senator in DC actually gives a shit about the United States. Every single one of them is negotiating on behalf of their paymasters. They are not actually 100 different people. They are an organism appendage flailed around like a tentacle. The 3 “republicans” defecting is all kabuki and bullshit.

Thunder and McConnell and Burr and Scott and at least 10 more pure traitors managed to keep it at 50. This is a negotiation pure and simple. And the traitors know how thin the ice is under their feet.

This should tell you all you need to know about that “vote.”

rehajm said...

Larry Fink is just a greedhead Finance guy

Larry Fink is a hardcore leftie who leverages 401k money to force companies to help lefties implement their agenda. He’s one of the masterminds of the informal corporate social credit scores we saw under the Biden administration. He helped bring us the Delta Airlines summer of misery and Dylan Mulvaney…

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I don't think most agree.

Correct. Class warfare is for losers who think Marx invented capitalism. We don't have oligarchs. We just have politicians who lie about how wealth is created and growth happens. Productivity increases everywhere billionaires invest but is killed everywhere bureaucracies rule.

RCOCEAN II said...

I dont give a damn what the US senate thinks about foreign policy. And neither does Trump or the House Republicans.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Every WPA vote is failure theatre signifying nothing. Why? Because to be effective the WPA resolution must gain Trump's signature or two-thirds of Congress. So it is, at most, a feeble gesture, short of suggestion and in no way binding upon the Executive.

Sure Freder loves the WPA but that's because he cannot understand Article 2 of the Constitution. Maybe none of it. He did insist to me that "no war has been legal since WWII." Which is batshit crazy.

MadTownGuy said...

NKP said...
"the straight of Hormuz" —" There's just one guy who's not gay. BRILLIANT.

There's an "update" of Blazing Saddles begging for a screenplay, if there ever was :-)"

Mel Brooks is doing a sequel to Spaceballs, so why not Blazing Saddles too?

john mosby said...

rehajm: "Larry Fink is a hardcore leftie who leverages 401k money to force companies to help lefties implement their agenda" &c.

Trump knows this. So why does he bring Fink with him? Serious question. I can think of several possible answers, but I don't know which one is right. CC, JSM

SoLastMillennium said...

Hopefully there will be Little Trouble in Big China........

narciso said...

You keep your enemies close

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

Trump is as capable of understanding China’s long view of history, infrastructure and education, as a may fly is capable of understanding the life span of a California redwood.

Achilles said...

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
Trump is as capable of understanding China’s long view of history, infrastructure and education, as a may fly is capable of understanding the life span of a California redwood.

The part that really burns for Chuck is that Trump is so much smarter than he is.

That is why he has to say such stupid things.

Achilles said...

john mosby said...
rehajm: "Larry Fink is a hardcore leftie who leverages 401k money to force companies to help lefties implement their agenda" &c.

Trump knows this. So why does he bring Fink with him? Serious question. I can think of several possible answers, but I don't know which one is right. CC, JSM

I assign highest probability to fink wanting to collect Davos’s stuff and he is making deals with Trump.

Fink is aptly named and he is a turd but there is no point in history where people like him weren’t in the background.

There may legitimately be no way to get rid of the finks of the economy and the only option may be to choose the lesser fink.

john mosby said...

Achilles, that sounds reasonable. I am wondering how much of his lefty exploits was out of true belief, or just out of 'these are the incentives you've laid out, so I'm incentivized.' So now Trump has changed the incentives. Kind of what happened with the tech moguls. CC, JSM

bagoh20 said...

"The Lesser Fink". If I was a lot younger and actually learned how to play guitar...

narciso said...

Ot

https://americasvoice.news/

bagoh20 said...

Trump is doing foreign policy like 20-year-old Michael Jordan just finishing a playground pickup game, and asking "Who's next?" He's already accomplished more in a year and half than anyone thought was possible in 8.

Jim at said...

Which is batshit crazy. Well, it's Freder so.....

Rustygrommet said...

You know, Tim, China doesn't have a blue water navy. Their much vaunted aircraft carriers are oil powered. Their newest nuclear submarine sunk at the dock. Turns out their stealth figters aren't . And their missile defenses don't. Doesn't exactly strike fear in the hearts of their enemies. Did you say Russia? Does Russia even have a navy anymore?

WK said...

“The Official Welcome: The formal ceremony involving the host head of state (such as on the White House South Lawn….”

Maybe if we had a nice secure ballroom we wouldn’t have to meet them in the back yard.

WK said...

“The Official Welcome: The formal ceremony involving the host head of state (such as on the White House South Lawn….”

Maybe if we had a nice secure ballroom we wouldn’t have to meet them in the back yard.

imTay said...

Here is what he said getting on the plane, in case you missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdFnyhjI_fo - NBC News

imTay said...

Kind of amazing that Trump puts Israel's desire for "permanent security" meaning all possible rivals snuffed, using the US military, our soldiers' lives to accomplish this Israeli goal.

imTay said...

Puts that goal above American's well being.

n.n said...

Maybe if we had a nice secure ballroom we wouldn’t have to meet them in the back yard.

Where ladies wearing heels and gowns will not be burdened with a muddy affair, where boys and girls of State can dance without fear of climate change, and assassins rot in the wilderness under the watchful eyes of rough men armed in self-defense.

n.n said...

Aborting a multidecadal war and Obama's Iran-Hamas Affair is no longer a viable conception, the Strait is transitioning with a parade and a minority aren't having a gay old time.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

So they do this the same way they avoid tariffs for sales to US importers.
Chinese Firms Plot Secret Arms Sales to Iran, U.S. Officials Say ~ NYT
'The effort involves plans to send weapons through other countries in an effort to hide the origins of the shipments.'

imTay said...

If China buys anything from Boeing, after the US sanctioned Russian Boeing jets, grounding them, and the US is constantly sanctioning China, so if China actually buys anything significant from Boeing, that will tell us something.

"U.S. officials say..." You mean the ones that have been lying to us about just about everything?

imTay said...

Can somebody explain why China should buy U.S. Treasuries to fund our military against them?

narciso said...

We could try to explain to you dutchboy

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Achilles said...

imTay said...

Can somebody explain why China should buy U.S. Treasuries to fund our military against them?

Can you explain why you haven't moved to China yet?

Known Unknown said...

"he goes begging for XI to help him with IRAN because all our past allies dissed him"

Even if you loathe Trump, this makes no sense.

narciso said...

Supposedly does a lot of workout

imTay said...

Not to mention, given the Russian precedent, the US would simply seize the treasuries, if we got mad at China for some reason.

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