From "Why top lawyers fear that AI is destroying the 'expert’s edge'/When a US law school announced a ban on the tech, some in the industry said students would lack vital skills. The signs are that ‘Big Law’ is leaning in to AI" (London Times).
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"Of all knowledge work, law seems almost perfectly primed for AI because so much of the work involves reading, categorising, and pattern-matching across vast reams of documents."
"It is the type of work AI does well — and tirelessly. It was reported last week that Kirkland & Ellis, the world’s largest law firm, plans to spend $500 million building a bespoke AI system to power its practice. Meanwhile, New York firm Fried Frank has just launched an AI tool designed specifically for its private equity clients, and Slaughter and May has rolled out Harvey across all its practice areas...."
From "Why top lawyers fear that AI is destroying the 'expert’s edge'/When a US law school announced a ban on the tech, some in the industry said students would lack vital skills. The signs are that ‘Big Law’ is leaning in to AI" (London Times).
Meanwhile, at UC Berkeley School of Law there's a new policy banning using A.I. for "outlining, drafting, revising, translating or editing any work submitted for credit." And law firms are complaining because they want to hire new lawyers who are good at using A.I. to do law. How are the schools supposed to teach law now? What's the good of a ban that only restricts the students who are punctilious about rules and terrified of getting caught? Why do those poor souls bear all the burdens? And how effective are law professors going to be about detecting the violations and imposing consequences? Absolutely terrible I would guess.
From "Why top lawyers fear that AI is destroying the 'expert’s edge'/When a US law school announced a ban on the tech, some in the industry said students would lack vital skills. The signs are that ‘Big Law’ is leaning in to AI" (London Times).

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Last year at the Eighth Circuit conference, the entire crowd watched a Kirkland & Ellis lawyer draft a legit cert petition in 15 minutes. He had trained his AI program for his practice. He used the Claude program.
That night at dinner, I was talking with two law school friends and we were astounded.
Hot take: Good for UC Berkeley! 2nd take: How will they identify AI generated texts now that the AI has started asserting, without evidence, that passages written in well known texts are “AI generated.”Poor Monet was thrown under the AI bus just last week!
The loss of the "expert's edge" is, IMHO, and I alluded to it in the Jill Biden thread, a major source of resentment of AI. So what if you read the Odyssey in the original Greek, or have powered through all of Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, and Goethe, and can easily pull up allusions to dress up your writing? So can anybody else! Including those kids who partied endlessly and got through college using Cliff Notes!
Not “our Monet.” Another one.
law firms are complaining because they want to hire new lawyers who are good at using A.I. to do law
…and the law firms will win as law profs have always believed their role is to sort the students according to how valuable they’ll be to employers…all profs really…
It’s like that Westworld mantra about spotting the robots: …if you can’t tell, does it matter?
People pay a very high premium for legal services from these firms due to human capital they possess.
The more they trumpet how AI is doing their work the less their hourly fee still feels worth it (unless billable hours go wildly down and legal services get much much cheaper)
How many AI errors are you willing to pay for?
If you had trained AI, for example, on all of the jurisprudence available in the US up until 1850, for example, it would have happily spit out reams of legalese explaining why human slavery was not only legal, but the natural order of things.
AI can parrot, not think. As Begley says it can be trained to assemble a petition under guidance from an attorney. And yes, AI can regurgitate Swift or Orwell or simply write in their style. But human creativity is the only source on Earth for original ideas, for plots and premises that boil up in creative minds. Steven Spielberg said recently that even dialogue should be written only by humans.
No matter how good machines get at emulating human creativity they will never have an imagination. God, in the Judeo-Christian tradition, is the Maker. He created the world and everything in it. He gave us the same drive to make things and says He “made man in His image.” We are the only creatures on earth who dream up new things and build them, creating entire universes in our minds and the physical realities around us. Creativity is the image of God imprinted on us.
AI reminds me of the stories of lobotomized people, they could get through life as long as nothing changes. What produces those changes? Will it be AI coming up with fresh ideas? Not at the level we are at now, it is designed to exploit the thinking that has been done up to now.
Sure billable hours per client will drop but overall productivity, the number of clients serviced per period, will increase. The Industrial Revolution is still our best avatar for the disruptive advancement we will gain from AI. The quality of the legal advice is what sets the billing rate and the best will get better even as small disruptive firms gain clients.
Sigh.
Will it be AI coming up with fresh ideas?
No. AI is incapable of “ideas” at all. It can regurgitate, in can identify associations overlooked by people, it can spot trends and anomalies but it can not have ideas, original thoughts.
People pay a very high premium for legal services from these firms due to human capital they possess.
In the future, the rich will get human doctors and lawyers. And the poor will get A.I. doctors and lawyers.
This seems pretty creative to me. AI solved a math problem that befuddled experts for decades.
"The first explanation is that this particular solution happens to be highly counterintuitive.
Most people who tackled this problem tried to prove Erdős’s conjecture, rather than disprove it. Only by defying conventional wisdom and experimenting with seemingly improbable strategies did the model find an unexpected path forward. "
https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84?st=w3SkMu&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
Ai has some gaps in knowledge but the programming is the jeu
So they just typed Erdős’s conjecture into ChatGPT and said "solve it" with no other human input?
It tested the different theories Steve by classic experimentation. That’s rote science. Good tasks for AI. It did not create its own conjecture, which would be truly “creative,” it simply kept applying mathematics until it proved the conjecture.
My tiny essay above is specifically about creativity in original idea generation. Applied science is the definition of technology, not creativity.
"..."outlining, drafting, revising, translating or editing any work submitted for credit."..."
That's like telling a roughneck he can't use any wrench longer than 12". A.I. is a labor-saving device for things that require the ability to poll memory, to distill and collate relevant data.
Some people have formidable memory capacity, fewer have perfect recall. One of them was in my family, and it took him very far indeed in the legal profession.
I can understand the 'drafting' part of the edict, because one doesn't understand something, really, until they put their own thoughts to paper. But telling students that they can't use A.I. for research and discovery is pure idiocy. It had to have come from some guy with a wig.
Good and precise question, Im.
Aggie, that presents the question “how will they know?” I could use AI to outline and draft a paper then write it myself for submission. How would they know?
I am surprised it took this long to make this happen. Three years ago I talked to a software developer who was using AI to solve some complex timing issues.
The real revolution will be when this capability is available to everyone, at a price that puts that big players out of business.
Where does the machine and the practitionsrs skill diverge
AI is an essential tool for lawyers now. You have to learn when to use it and how to use it in the right way or you will be left behind. That is where the skill comes into play. Recognize its limitations, such as fabricating case citations, and pair the AI work with true databases like Lexis or Westlaw - that is the skill part too, calling bullshit on the AI output.
Data sorting projects that used to take 20 hours now take 1, mostly loading in the correct data and refining the prompts. It takes about 10 prompts to get good AI work product. Drafting projects that require case citations used to take 20 hours now take about 5, primarily reading and checking case law and adding better legal citations, which was always a part of the drafting process anyway. Drafting projects that do not require case citations (memos, letters, discovery, etc) that used to take 10 hours now take less than 1. It makes solo or small firm work a viable option for lawyers leaving big firms -- typically those with specialized practices who do not need the costly structure in order to produce revenue.
We see a significant uptick in pro se parties filing AI materials, much of which looks right but is slop. Pro se parties will crank out 25 page briefs in a day, and respond immediately to produced discovery with alleged deficiencies. It is immediately apparent which pro se parties are using (and mis-using) it since they have no idea how to call BS on the stuff it spits out.
AI, unlike AI, is neither discerning nor creative. AI is an energy hog. Also, race conditions. AI doesn't hallucinate, but it can be poisoned.
When I was working on a masters in software engineering, the school bookstore sold high end programming suites and other software for very low prices. The companies wanted us to learn their products so we’d be more likely to use them in the workplace. AI vendors should do the same thing. There are several AI systems aimed at the legal profession. Each has its strengths and weaknesses, and each will have a learning curve. Teaching law students how to use these tools is the next generation from using legal databases. When those databases hit the market, did law schools insist that students had to continue doing searches in books and microfilm?
I'm sure AI is helping federal judges write those 100 pages of Bullshit they churn out when they rule against Trump.
Sorry to have to be the one to inform some of you, but yes, the latest AI models can and already are "creating new ideas" and innovations of all kinds in multiple fields. If your exposure to AI is limited to having entertaining chats with Grok or free versions of Chat GPT and Claude, your level of understanding is severely limited.
I happen to do R&D and consulting using the latest models and configuring hybrid versions for specialized purposes. The speed, precision, and innovative idea generation of the newest AI models is astounding. And it's accelerating.
Control, legislation, whatever. It doesn't matter. Pandora's Box has been opened.. There's no going back. Doesn't matter how much you dislike AI, companies, institutions and students are rushing to its use.
Let's just hope The Good out weighs The Bad on this one.
The issue is analogous to premature introduction of calculators that sabotage human cognitive evolution. AV, too. Timing is an issue. Can a human mind evolve in perpetuity? Perhaps it's less of a concern for a mature, viable product.
“Any work submitted for credit” at UC Berkeley Law School. When I was in law school the only real work was the final exam taken in a lecture hall using blue books. We learned to write briefs in a legal writing class, but that class was small potatoes.
"...Aggie, that presents the question “how will they know?” ..."
They will know by asking the suspected person questions that will demonstrate their actual understanding. The real concern will be when the user of the end product decides that their time is better spent using A.I. directly, rather than waste time detecting the cheats. Cheaters will find out that their shortcuts might cause them to be simply ignored and kicked away.
Lean in. Fall over. Smack.
Blunt Force Trauma
Blunt force trauma can injure your body inside and out. You might not be able to see all the effects, but that doesn’t make it any less serious. Blunt force trauma is extremely common, especially when it involves motor vehicles. It can be minor and self-treatable, or it can be life-threatening without medical care.
- Cleveland Clinic
I'll also add that any educator or educational institution that forbids or severely restricts the use of AI is (1) committing educational malpractice, and (2) will likely be out of business in the near future. The career winners going forward will be those people who learn how to use these fantastic AI tools in their profession, whatever it happens to be.
The irony of AI entertaining Abortive Ideation (AI) of LI is a karmic fetus... feature of a universal gay humor.
"Instead, fees could be charged based on the outcome of a firm’s work under a model called value-based pricing."
Have they just invented… economics?
Terms such as "value pricing" almost always mean the exact opposite of what they imply. 100%. "Value-based pricing" to them means they still get their billed hours and, on top of that, further cash if the deal goes well.
This sounds like a vanity project; in any case, magic circle law firms don't really compete on the quality of raw analysis -- judgement, network connections, etc., matter far more.
JI is a giggle twat replacement of JI, accessible in .JI domains.
Last week, Starbucks pulled the plug, after nine months of use, on an expensive internal AI system built to track inventory. I anticipate other companies, possibly including Kirkland Ellis, doing that a few steps and skips down the road.
Saint Croix said... In the future, the rich will get human doctors and lawyers. And the poor will get A.I. doctors and lawyers.
And the poor will be better off.
Why does lawyering even matter when judges have proven to be so biased and corrupt? Laws don't even matter.
I always felt like slide rules made their users smarter.
“ Slaughter and May has rolled out Harvey across all its practice areas”
JUDGE: Counselor, did you draft this?
LAWYER: No, your honor, my associate did. The giant rabbit standing next to me.
CC, JSM
Did law schools ban LexisNexis back in its early days?
“And how effective are law professors going to be about detecting the violations and imposing consequences?”
Law professors could use AI to uncover the AI work, but maybe AI won’t rat out the students who use AI.
Mike (MJB Wolf): I thought about your point just after I posted the link, so I will temper my creativity assertion. But as an adage sort of goes: Genius is 1 percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration. imTay: That's what they did. They stated the math problem in symbolic terms and asked the agent to resolve it. About 30 hours later, it did.
Arbitrage Intelligence will work as well as labor and environmental arbitrage.
Law will change substantially. A recent pre publication study reported that the number of pro se litigants in federal court increased from10% to 16% in federal court with the advent of AI. In a recent conversation with a magistrate in family court in a rural county, the number of pro se litigants was estimated to be in the neighborhood of 30%. Imagine how these numbers could increase and the quality of presentation of cases increase if such individuals had access to a structured AI for criminal law. The judges, at least locally, are unremittingly against the use of AI by litigants because of the idiot trained presumably trained lawyers who were too rushed to check the cases the got from a cheap version of AI. But the pressure will permit use of these tools despite the cry that they are practicing without a license will grow.
On the other end of practice, where the Kirkland Ellises of the world operate, the deployment of sufficient capital on robust, custom tools, will shrink the number of partners and associates so that we may have a very small number of attorneys representing huge numbers of clients in vast numbers of transactions and cases. Their power and influence may make yesterday's powerhouse firms look like small potatoes.
The rules will have to change, and the rear guard actions being currently undertaken by state bar associations to protect the franchise must eventually give way.
“What's the good of a ban that only restricts the students who are punctilious about rules and terrified of getting caught?”
Who wants a wussy lawyer like that? I want a lawyer who’s learned to be smart and sneaky enough to do whatever it takes to win without getting caught. This silly AI ban in law schools will be a good filter.
You can't use AI for the substantive law in court fillings, because it doesn't understand the difference between real and fake case law. A lot of what lawyers do, though, involves generating repetitive documents with very small changes. AI can do a lot to automate those processes, reducing costs to the client.
The real problem with AI is that is is better at being a lawyer and a judge than people are.
It is just pulling the bandaid off right now.
Our legal system is bullshit.
Tom T. said...
You can't use AI for the substantive law in court fillings, because it doesn't understand the difference between real and fake case law.
LOL.
Roe v. Wade was "Real case Law."
People claim AI hallucinates? The smartest judges in the land found a right to abortion in the constitution.
It is all bullshit. We cannot replace the Supreme Court and lawyers and judges fast enough. They all act like god priests and pharisees.
Right now our justice system is people making shit up out of nothing. It is time to be honest about it.
Ideally, AI will make the Dream Team affordable to everybody and take away the built in wealth legal bias and legalized bullying and blackmail.
These ICE agents that were bitten by the paid protesters outside the NJ facility will need to check their tetanus shot records. I also suggest they use the recorded incidents to identify the miscreant biters, take them into custody, euthanize them, then remove and test their brains for rabies.
👆This👆must be done PDQ!
there is a relatively straightforward way to delineate the AI issues here: turning in a sentence or more under your own name when it was written by someone else is CHEATING. In every school, that standard is a bright line. Publishing/using someone else's written work without attribution is plagiarism. Prohibiting using AI for drafting, outlining , editing etc is simply following these bright lines. Because AI was trained on you-don't-know-who, it can never be properly cited.
This reveals is the legal industry functions on plagiarism no matter what the law school standard. underling clerks write for others all of the time and don't receive attribution. Later they get w job offer.
the second issue is the offices want cheaper experts who can work faster. but while expert is faster than the novice today that is because of the 10-40 years you're not taking into account during which they assimilated the deep content knowledge. skipping that step w AI means you'll never make another expert. so no one else will know whats true or the fine nuances of an agrument or which cases really are Relevant.
Can a proper AI be built that is a better westlaw for properly searching quoting citing relevant cases? Sure. but only someone deeply trained by reading the case law for themselves and studying the examples as an apprentice can be taught to ask the right questions of the tool. therein lies the other problem.
"Reading, categorizing and pattern-matching"
Accuracy and not inserting false data...not so much.
Howard said...
Ideally, AI will make the Dream Team affordable to everybody and take away the built in wealth legal bias and legalized bullying and blackmail.
It will actually make the whole "dream team" concept unnecessary.
The purpose of having oppositional agents was to make sure everyone was represented and the judge could make "fair" decisions.
But AGI obviates that need completely. The results will be tunable and relatively consistent.
If you want to get crazy you create a system of Models that all get to vote and every vote they make they have to pay the transaction fee to vote and the transaction fees are distributed to the agents that made the "right" decisions so they have more weight on future votes. .
We have a DA in Minnesota trying to indict ICE Agents for shooting a rabid animal while they were enforcing immigration laws.
We cannot replace these people fast enough.
Attribution is a case study in and of itself. Also, the Achilles' Heel of AI is Supervisory Intelligence (SI).
"The results will be tunable..."
Every political system is "tunable" by the elites. the Magna Carta was written to protect the rights of Britain's oligarchs from the depredations of the King.
Good idea. We need fewer lawyers and fewer lawyers in politics. Unfortunately, law will probably remain the main route for liberal arts grads from affluent families to attain wealth, status, and power.
Agentic Interlopers
Rather than AI judges, why not just have human juries? The judge would just act as a master of ceremonies and enforcer of order in the courtroom. All decisions, not just of fact but of law, would go to the jury. The common law should be just that.
If you want appellate courts, they also would have juries, randomly selected from the larger geographic area. Even SCOTUS.
What stops the jury from completely violating the common law? They're ordinary people and we know who they are and where they live. If they fuck around too much, they find out. That was part of the rationale of the jury system: having to face your neighbors after making your decision.
CC, JSM
It would seem an automatic fail for citations that are not existent would work better. Learning to make sure your AI is nor hallucinating precedent is going to be necessary.
Aggie said...
That's like telling a roughneck he can't use any wrench longer than 12".
That's why the hands call 3-ft pieces of 1-in diameter pipe "cheater bars"
An AI doesn't hallucinate, it generates handmade tales.
I have a changeover /smed assessment coming up. Last night it struck that a multiple event timer would be helpful.
I want to track each of 6-8 people by time they start and finish each of dozens of tasks
When finished I want it in an Excel table and a network chart showing parallel and serial tasks.
I want it in html to rn on a browser.
If I could do it, this would take days to complete.
Grok did it in 3 minutes. Less time than it took to describe.
I've got a couple of tweaks but nothing major or functional. It will work fine just the way it is
This stuff is amazing. It's better that n magic
John Henry
Howard said...
Aggie said...
That's like telling a roughneck he can't use any wrench longer than 12".
That's why the hands call 3-ft pieces of 1-in diameter pipe "cheater bars"
If you really really really don't want things to break get a torque wrench.
But the real world involves sticking a pipe on the end and jumping on it.
The real fun and games start when you start hitting the pipe with an 8 pound or a full handle sledge.
Have to add the pneumatic impact drills kinda replaced the pipe cheater bars for me. Those were life changing.
Mike,
I trained Claude to write in my voice by telling it "go to packedigest and read everything by john Henry" that's a couple hundred articles
It came back and described how it found my style.
Then it suggested that the style for this book(non-tech) should be different in tone and had some suggestions.
I let Claude roll with the suggestions and write 4 chapters. I sent them to my editor of 25 years without telling her it was AI. She thought it was terrific and never knew how well I could write on non tech subjects.
I did tell her it was AI the next day.
I asked grok to tell me it it was ai. Definitely human and here is why in a 2 page analysis.
It may not be able to create on its own. Would it come up with the concept for the book? Probably not. Can it dramatically improve on my vision? Absolutely.
John Henry
Amen, brother. I never get lonely when I'm around my tools. The best friends a man could ever have.
Cheater bars went out with spinning chains. I haven't seen a roughneck use a cheater bar since the 80s, because they are simply too dangerous, and are absolutely verboten on every commercial operation. Which is not to say that I've not used them myself, on the farm. But every rig has a 48" stilson. It's also unusual to see hammer wrenches these days - most everything is torqued up using a hydraulic wrench.
AI is a valuable tool in my practice. It sometimes thinks of things I didn't. I can ask it to critique my work. It can turn out lots of boring necessary prose. It's here to stay. No going back.
Why do those poor souls bear all the burdens? And how effective are law professors going to be about detecting the violations and imposing consequences? Absolutely terrible I would guess.
I'm going to take the Devil's Advocate position here:
These rules are great
Because what it means is that if you let an "AI halucination" get through, you will be crucified, just like you would be in court.
So by all means let the AI do your 1st pass. but then you have to check and clean up everything, just as you would with a real legal document.
So IMAO, this is perfect training
Greg The Class Traitor said...
Because what it means is that if you let an "AI halucination" get through, you will be crucified, just like you would be in court.
What is the difference between an AI hallucination and calling Obamacare a tax?
Achilles,
I don't think that's exactly what happened with Roe v Wade. Rather, the justices who voted for it wanted that outcome, constitution be damned, and so they pretended to find the right somewhere in there. But I don't think any of them were as demented as KBJ so I don't suppose they really thought it was.
Allison,
"Publishing/using someone else's written work without attribution is plagiarism."
Not if it's work for hire.
Again, I'm talking about school. There are no schools where student paying omeone else to write their assignments suddenly made it legitimate.
Makes sense. There have long been AI-like tools employed in legal research. Like Ann will, I recall the original Lexus (or was it Lexis) which was a marvel in the 1970s. A computer the size of a small car would spit out a list of every case that contained a request phrase. That was an early version of AI. Before that humans (remember them) read and categorized cases by “key numbers” - impartial intelligence.
Achilles said...
Greg The Class Traitor said...
Because what it means is that if you let an "AI halucination" get through, you will be crucified, just like you would be in court.
What is the difference between an AI hallucination and calling Obamacare a tax?
The person passing on the AI hallucination doesn't know he's lying.
Roberts knew he was lying when he excused Obamacare as a tax
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