I'm reading "Did Trump pick the right blue for the Reflecting Pool? We asked a pool guy. Old Glory Blue? American Flag Blue? Let’s reflect on all the shades, while a federal judge mulls 'aesthetic injury' in the president’s latest decorating flourish" (WaPo).
It's a dark blue, we're told, not swimming-pool blue, which would be too light and bright, not the right somber blue. But it's Trump's blue, so somber — and flag-oriented — is also bad.
"Just because American Flag Blue looks good on a flag, it doesn’t mean it will necessarily look good slathered on a length of more than 2,000 feet, says Jill Morton, a professional color consultant. 'The context of a color is what matters,' says Morton. 'That dark blue, if it is that dark, oh man, that’s going to look very, very dismal.'"
"Just because American Flag Blue looks good on a flag, it doesn’t mean it will necessarily look good slathered on a length of more than 2,000 feet, says Jill Morton, a professional color consultant. 'The context of a color is what matters,' says Morton. 'That dark blue, if it is that dark, oh man, that’s going to look very, very dismal.'"
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…you don’t like the blue you shouldn’t have propped up President cadaver for so long…
“professional color consultant”… highlarious!
Slow news day.
That's just like, your opinion, man.
Back before I retired from working in publishing and design (as a programmer/developer) we thought of blue as the ultimate dominate color for corporate presentation and advertising work. It’s a neutral color that doesn’t carry any great emotional sting. Soothing.
Jeez. If you're a failed designer, just find another line of work. But a "professional color consultant"? That's so very...ridiculous. And so New York.
Again, this is a perfect troll by the maestro. Just think of all of the internet social media traffic being generated over. Nothing created out of a bit of paint.
I predict that it will look perfectly fine once the reflecting pool is refilled with water.
'The context of a color is what matters...."
The context of this color is that Trump selected it.
A. Isn't "somber" what these clowns claim they want?
B. Did the color consultant take into account the effect of water on the color?
C. Isn't muddy granite pretty...well, muddy?
And the color is, of course, a matter the Founders in their wisdom believed was best decided by a DC Court judge, right?
For heaven's sake, do a mock-up! What are all these computers for, anyway?
tcrosse got it right about the context.
This is the discussion we have when Pres. Trump works to beautify some public space. We don’t have this discussion when the Grey Slop politicians are in charge. We just accept that Grey Slop is the norm, and cannot be fixed.
Democrats just can’t find it within themselves to just be Americans. They are partisan fighters in their partisan war and these corksoakers will do their damnedest to scuttle the 250th anniversary celebration.
We are here in DC and walked by the Reflecting Pool construction yesterday.
Judging by my Democrat wife’s reaction, it is very very upsetting that Trump picked blue instead of black. She is an artist, so I guess that makes her an expert on color choices.
What else will Trump do to ruin this country?
I used to work in DC and often ate my lunch in one of the parks by a fountain. It was so great to get that little breathing space - being with green plants and flowers near flowing water. It saddened me when I read of takeovers by dirty, filthy, insane people and drug dealers. But I used to think that somehow it was an inescapable result of something, somehow, it just happened in a city. I now know from seeing what Trump has done for DC that the mess was one more result of Dem party rule. Dems steal the money allocated for city needs. If we had a list of the properties DC Dem politicians own which was placed in relation to when they were elected, we'd see the reason for the dirty city.
it's IMPORTANT, to remember; that (according to the MSM),
ANY THING that Trump does is; BY DEFINITION.. BAD
case closed. Trump is BAD
super serious question:
WHICH is BETTER?
Trump's Blue?
or
the dirty algae green that it used to be?
oh! that's Right! Trump is BAD
There's something comical not just about this discussion, but about the fact that the people who do comedy for a living find nothing funny about it. There should be a SNL skit about the DNC snit about the color of water in a reflecting pool.......Yesterday in the NYT there was a lengthy investigative article about the awarding of the contract for the poor repair. This is bigger than Watergate.
The context of a color is what matters,' says Morton.
Kind of insulting perversion of MLK’s “I have a dream” speech said in front of that pool where he dreamt of “a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
Socialism has never been tried. Instead socialist politicians are the worst grifters ever elected. They have never even tried to work for justice. That's just what they say to enable expropriations which make the pot they are stealing from bigger.
It’s going to be Trump blue suit blue. If only the Washington Monument was red, the deflection on the Reflecting Pool could be a Trump Memorial.
I read that as Jill Moron, “Professional Color Consultant”.
The critics should be grateful that the President did not choose orange.
Blue, blue, my world is blue
Kamala lost and there's poop on my shoe
reflection not deflection. Not enough coffee.
We need to go for "Royal Blue" A deep, vivid, and majestic shade.
The expert has spoken. So, as with every other expert used by the Washington Post, I’ll assume the opposite is probably correct.
This article shows how successful the Republican Senate, and the Leftwing Judiciary has been in stopping every Trump domestic action. And because of that, the NYT's has the time and space to attack Trump's color choices for a pool.
New DNC slogan:
We dont want action!
We want distraction!
I haven’t been this upset since Deep Blue Something released “Breakfast at Tiffany’s.”
Explosive blue = a cross between cobalt blue and electric blue.
Iman said...
"Democrats just can’t find it within themselves to just be Americans. "
They always seem to want to make America into something they believe is worse.
Most of us don't associate blue with injury. We associate it with the Blue sky or the deep blue sea.
A total reach by WaPo.
If Dr. Jill Biden had picked this color, WaPo would be singing her praises.
I'm am so, so tired of TDS all the time from the Fake News.
We all know if a Dem had selected the paint it would resemble the ridiculous lgbtq pride nonsense. Or perhaps “Black Lives Matter” written at the bottom of the pool. That’s the context she’s really lamenting - they didn’t think of painting it some virtue signal bs first.
Dark blue or gray under the inevitable layer of brownish green silt?
As Melania's jacket used to say, "I don't really care. Do U?"
That's one of the most tedious, overwrought articles I've read in a long time. The color looks fine and it's going to reflect well, as intended. I just hope their plan to keep it clean actually works.
Every architect and landscape designer is (or should be) familiar with the concept of “consulting the genius loci”. It’s a REFLECTING pool, not a swimming pool, not a fish pond, and not a wishing well. When one pauses around it from every perspective it should mirror the trees, the buildings, the memorials, the people, and the sky. Both functionally and aesthetically, the color should be black or at least a very very dark blue. That my professional (ret.) opinion.
So Democrats don't like blue now because Trump does.
I'm looking forward to them coloring their campaigns Red again, as would be appropriate for commies.
Dark blue is another way of saying Prussian blue. Thus the Nazification of our nation's capital continues apace. To those with eyes, that victory arch has got Nazi written all over it. There are rumors that the MAGA people are plotting to burn down or perhaps blow up the Capitol Building itself. They plan to replace it with something grandiose and gilded in the Trump style. The plans have already been made.
Meade agrees with my wife. I would tell her, but we try to avoid talking about Trump.
TDS is more prevalent among Democrats that I first realized.
Maynard, upon reflection, I prefer to think of it
as — your lovely artistic wife agrees with me. As she should. 😁
"The context of a color is what matters" Oh noe, intersectionality strikes again!
“… that’s going to look very, very dismal.” Of course. Far worse than Obama’s algae. But a judge will decide if there is an “aesthetic injury” because that is the business of federal judges.
Democrats have many unforgivable acts on their heads, but in my judgment the corruption of the legal system, particularly the federal judiciary, tops the list. Soros DAs and AGs are right up there also.
A measure of this administration's success is its proclivity for consulting individuals like Meade, not Morton. I could say that the remodel looks as good as a $250 bill, but I couldn't say it unironically.
Augusta National uses a dye product like Brandt Blue Lagoon to get that mirror like appearance for TV. Basically it’s food coloring…
What kind of ridiculous statement is "blue is a color we associate with injury"? Who on earth associates blue with injury? Geez, this whole thing is so stupid.
Now I'm waiting for RJW to come along and read deep significance into the color blue, the way he analyzed Trump's Truth Social post to death. Such a waste of energy.
The Indigo Girls are changing their name.
As much as Trump likes gold, give him some credit for not choosing that color.
Trump could have painted it Red with “Make America Great Again” in Gold script.
That would merit an A+ for trolling.
"Professional color consultant" is what you get when you have committees trying to make a decision, they outsource to the these people so they can blame them if it sucks.
Blue blue electric blue
That’s the color of my room
Where I will live
Blue blue
Pale blinds drawn all day
Nothing to read nothing to say
Blue blue
That woman is a certifiable moron. Dark blue will reflect the sky with depth. It will look amazing. She doubled down with the word “slathered.” And who in the world associates blue with injury?! Bruises are purple and green and yellow (as they heal), not blue, and I wouldn’t associate them with injury, either.
“Bob Boyd said...
The Indigo Girls are changing their name.“
Is nothing sacred anymore?
I am past tired of federal judges trying to micromanage every damned thing Trump does, just because it’s Trump. Next judge that takes a case like this should be tossed into a cage full of hungry lions as a means of advising the federal judiciary to stay in their lane.
the corrupt dems and their evil judges prefer trash can slime gray.
the left live to micromanage.
in CO - the dems are going to ban ketchup packets.
In CO - we get over 500 new punitive hyper-controlling nanny state "laws" every year - thanks to one party corrupt dem rule.
The dems want the bottom of the DC pool paved in meth teeth
“Don't be so shallow, Meade.“
Hahaha. If only I could be.
blue is the left's so called color. they still whine.
Writer should slather herself in her TDS feces and check into the asylum.
Blue as the color of "stereotypical masculinity"? That's a stretch. Baby blue, the light shade, is associated with boy babies, but it's not very masculine. The darker, more saturated shades of blue (or red or any color) seem to be quite gender-neutral.
It's said that pink was once regarded as suitable for boy babies. Then it wasn't. Some people want to blame Hitler and his pink triangles for the change, but I suspect it was a more natural evolution, and something we can't blame on the Nazis.
Those with much time on their hands may want to explore William Gass's book "On Being Blue."
In the voice of Jeremy Clarkson "This week on 'Trump did a Bad Thing'..."
The fountain is back.
Make America Beautiful Again. MABA.
Competence is important.
Also, you need a commitment. Beautiful fountains, clean water, this is all doable.
Its tory and navy associated they would rather it copper colored like gledi prime
It's meant to hide any blue-state visitors who fall in.
Getting colors right is hard and depends on the context. What looks good in a book looks terrible in real life. What looks good next to green trees can look terrible next to red rocks, etc. See the Contrast Effect of color perception:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_effect
"Flagship" buildings are designed in a studio and then tested with real materials and real colors in place. This means putting up a fake wall and window to see how it reflects off buildings and trees nearby. They sometimes have 2, 3, or 4 finalist options and decide only after seeing them in place.
When the Las Vegas Venetian was built, they struggled to decide on the color green for the bottom of the fake canal that runs through the mall. I heard that Sheldon Adelson painted it, filled it with water and was unhappy, then drained it, repainted it, and filled it again. He chose a murky realistic dark green; sort of the old duck poop and slime color of the DC Reflecting Pool.
I suspect that the painted Reflecting Pool will shift in appearance with the weather and angle, but blue should be dark blue (American Flag blue in that location), or it'll look like a swimming pool indeed.
That may be a reason
Bruises aren't black or blue, they're purple. Seriously, do a Google image search and you won't see one bruise that is American Flag Blue or jet black. And I doubt that the author would go around criticizing purple things as reminding us of violence. (Unless Trump started dressing like Prince.)
It just occurred to me that blue is the official color of the Democrat party.
Water in pools appears blue because it's the wavelength of light that penetrates and reflects back. The same thing happens with blue eyes -- it's not the color blue it's the shadow from a clear iris when looking into darkness of the eyeball.
Painting water bodies anything other than blue will end up shifting to the natural shades of water (e.g., alpine clear blue, ocean deep blue, shoreline green and brown from runoff and plants). It's going to end up bluish or greenish or murky unless very shallow and processed.
Interesting bio of Jill Morton
https://www.colorcom.com/about/who-we-are
John Henry
Iman said...
Blue
"Blue skies smiling at me.
Nothing but blue skies do I see.
Blue birds singing a song.
Nothing but blue skies from now on.
Never saw the sun shining so bright.
Never saw things going so right.
Noticing the days hurrying by.
When you're in love, my how they fly.
Blue days, all of them gone.
Nothing but blue skies from now on.
Blue skies smiling at me.
Nothing but blue skies do I see.
Bluebirds singing a song.
Nothing but blue skies from now on."
"Lawyers for the Cultural Landscape Foundation, an education and advocacy organization seeking to halt work on the Reflecting Pool, argued that their client had suffered an “aesthetic injury” from the paint job, and that the government did not undertake required federal reviews."
This one gets my personal Lawsuits I Hope Fail tag. A pile of goobers those lawyers are.
Iman said...
“professional color consultant”… highlarious!
No, it is a highly serious role in the packaging industry. I've worked with some of them and they often (but not always) have a good explanation for what color to select.
Michigan State devotes a lot of time to colors in their packaging curriculum
I'm more on the use end and how colors can sometimes affect how packages run on the packaging line. But I do talk to these folks sometimes.
Not to say the article doesn't sound like bullshit and that Jill Morton sounds like she suffers TDS. But she might be very sound if you wanted to know just which shade of red you want the grapics on your aspirin carton to be.
John Henry
John Henry
TDS sufferers have the dismal blues.
Per Claude, just for reference:
Total Pantone system including all product lines: the full system now includes about 9,758 total colors, each created by combining just 13 base pigments in exact formulas.
John Henry
The naysayers should wait until the final surface coating is applied and the pool is filled. More than simple color wavelengths must be considered. Physicists and landscape architects know that a dark blue color of the pool walls is superior to the former medium gray color for maximizing reflection from the water's surface. A "color consultant" with a degree in fashion design or whatever almost certainly does not.
I don't have a particular opinion about the color of the reflecting pool. I expect that it is hard for a layman to judge before the completed pool is filled with water. I also expect that the appearance of the pool will change significantly depending on the weather.
What I do know is that the same color choice would be greeted by the critics with rapture if it were the choice of an Obama or a Biden.
it is hard for a layman to judge before the completed pool is filled with water
Indeed, but that won't stop all the baristas and cat ladies and email-jobs crowd who can't fix a leaky faucet from scathingly asserting they know better than Mr. Trump, who has built hundreds if not thousands of pools in his career.
Maynard and Meade--Maynard's wife is correct (her politics notwithstanding). Black with gray/blue flecks produces a pool that is a restful blue-green pond color.
I think Trump should just go with the full Bellagio for the reflecting pool, with gold uplighting.
Is it blue? Is it blue?
Aint these colors in the pool tellin' you?
Are they blue? You'd be too,
If each attack on that Trump done fell through.
Was a time Biden was their only one,
But now they’re the sad and lonely one… Lawdy.
Was it grey? 'til today
Now it's gone, and we're so blue. Its so true
A Professional Color Consultant. That’s what cost Gore the 2000 Election.
Wait a minute. Why is the Navy’s color being chosen over the other services? Very suspicious.why not use the Marine Corp MARPAC. That way Trump haters can’t even see it.
Also blue was the color of United States uniforms in the War of the Southern Rebellion. That will offend the South.
So with a blue base, it won’t be a reflecting pool anymore. What is the problem with that? It will probably look better.
"So with a blue base, it won’t be a reflecting pool anymore"
But the water will still be dark and thus reflective. It's not clear swimming pool water.
""But blue is a color we associate with injury: Think of the mottled black and blue of a bruise. It is the color of authority and stereotypical masculinity..."
This is the dumbest shit I have read all week.
“What kind of ridiculous statement is "blue is a color we associate with injury"? Who on earth associates blue with injury? Geez, this whole thing is so stupid.”
Light blue is used extensively in hospitals, though I think psych wards tend to use a blue-green.
Thanks to all the commenters for not mentioning Bobby Vintons "Blue Velvet"
Of course he picked the wrong blue. That’s the ugliest blue I’ve ever seen. O wait, he picked that blue instead? It’s even worse.
My obsolete two cents worth? He shoulda picked a blue with gold overtones. That woulda been perfect.
I asked ai for a connection to the reflecting pool in the movie ‘Less Than Zero’ (1987)
“The Thematic Connection: While the book doesn't feature a literal landmark reflecting pool, it heavily relies on wealthy Los Angeles backyard swimming pools as visual "reflecting pools" of the characters' inner states. The minimalist, detached narrative uses these stagnant, luxurious pools to mirror the characters' absolute moral apathy, numbness, and emotional emptiness.“
Maybe it’s overreaching, overkill, the attempt to tie these things together, but at the same time, isn’t that what defines our man in the White House?
I’ll take your word for it, John Henry @11:55AM
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Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain
Trump could have picked any color, even the favored color by any of these critics, and they would have written the exact same article.
Listen traitors, get onboard or get f*cked! I don't care if it doesn't make a lick of logical sense, or is " anti-constitutional " if you don't embrace every whim of Donald J Trump, you are a disgrace to this nation.
MAGA!
Also, the only reason the White House is not realeasing the medical report on Donald J Trump's health is because the liberal media will use the information to prove that he is unfit for office. I support treating the American people like mushrooms, if it keeps Trump in office: feed em sh*t and keep them in the dark."
MAGA!
@Hassayamper: Physicists and landscape architects know that a dark blue color of the pool walls is superior to the former medium gray color for maximizing reflection from the water's surface. A "color consultant" with a degree in fashion design or whatever almost certainly does not.
A physicist is the last person I'd ask about color coordination in public buildings or art. The key technical people are perception scientists (a serious branch of psychology), as humans see what humans want to see and the brain is a creative instrument as much as a measuring device. A landscape architect and a color consultant are likely the same person with a different label.
Asked my partner, who is a trained tetrachromatic (primarily interior) designer. Testrachromatic means that she sees 4 colors, not the usual three (trichromatic), or even two (color blind). She sees and understands color better than almost anyone. She might not have picked that actual shade of blue, but they were close to what she would have picked.
Doesn't matter. When Newsome elected, can re-paint pool while tearing down ballroom, re-opening border, and banning gasoline powered vehicles
Make it orange, man.
"If Dr. Jill Biden had picked" it would be a gawd-awful floral print.
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