20 ఏప్రిల్, 2026

"This foray into looking at humans as creatures that are governed by instinct and biology offered little in the way of advancing Darwinist theory..."

"... nor was his explicit approach of studying man as a mere ape a novel one. What ensured the popularity of The Naked Ape was first its clarity of prose, and second, the era in which it was published, where a popularised 'back to nature' philosophy and sexual liberation were all the rage.... [T]he salacious manner of the book helped to guarantee it success. During copulation, he wrote, 'the female breasts … shows a significant increase in size. By the time orgasm has been reached, the breast of the average female will have increased by anything up to 25 per cent of its normal dimensions. It becomes firmer, more rounded and more protuberant.' Elsewhere, Morris would tell readers that the human penis is the largest of all primates, and the only one without a bone, making it harder to achieve an erection.... The Naked Woman (2004) was a similar blend of zoological observation and detailed titillation, with an analysis of women’s backs ('even at rest … naturally more arched than a man’s back'), legs ('part of the sexual fascination … is that they focus attention on the point where they meet'), buttocks (they 'transmit a powerful gender signal') and breasts (which 'operate first as visual stimuli and then as tactile ones'). Never short of ideas, Morris also advanced the theory that female breasts had developed as imitation buttocks 'to shift the interest of the male to the front.'..."

From "Desmond Morris obituary: natural world expert/Zoologist, broadcaster and author best known for The Naked Ape dies aged 98" (London Times).

60 కామెంట్‌లు:

Mike (MJB Wolf) చెప్పారు...

Can't argue with an expert: "breasts (which 'operate first as visual stimuli and then as tactile ones')"

It's true. Every word. In order.

Kai Akker చెప్పారు...

Right, the original T&A guy!

Michael చెప్పారు...

Was assigned The Naked Ape in our Human Sexuality class in college. Sparked a lot of conversation both in and out of the classroom. This was 40 years ago when a lot of feminist thought was taking hold in the faculty, with the idea that our sexual behavior is all a social construct, nature vs nurture type stuff.

Quite the contrast with the Bacchanal that was campus in the early 80s, where a woman classmate would tell you in the afternoon that "Male lust is the result of the patriarchy", while that very same night be demanding, "Stick it in my azz."

Lem Vibe Bandit చెప్పారు...

Big fan of his television docs.

YouTube: The Language of the Body

"I decided to make a complete classification of all human actions, gestures, postures, expressions all over the world, and this is going to take a very long time, I was going to do for actions what dictionary makers had done for words."

Mike (MJB Wolf) చెప్పారు...

Very enticing quote there, Lem.

imTay చెప్పారు...

It’s probably impossible to know every factor that if integrated across time explains the human organism, but speculation deepens our understanding, nevertheless.

gilbar చెప్పారు...

i actually READ the Naked Ape, way back around 1980..
anyone else?

imTay చెప్పారు...

One strong piece of evidence that human sexuality is a social construct is how thoroughly social engineering has bolixed it up to the point that societies where it has been imposed are dying out for lack of children.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

I respect Morris for going there on a topic that's bound for pushback, snickering, and political tension. He was head and shoulders above many who followed.

Male and female bodies are indeed keyed to each other. Tab A must fit in Part B or no babies can be made. Size follows functional needs (i.e., large human baby heads = a bigger birth canal = a larger insemination tool). Female fat deposits first serve a survival function (resource storage), and also in keeping babies alive, and also easy ID of female maturity. Males respond to but perhaps don't "need" a lot of visual stimulation.

Human babies are hardwired for the rooting reflex, whereby they turn their heads and open their mouths in an "O" if rubbed by a finger/nipple on the cheek. They are hardwired to respond to the functional feeding part of mommy, and it's placed exactly where mommies hold their babies in their arms.

n.n చెప్పారు...

Our physiology is ape-like. Our consciousness is anthropogenic and intelligent with a capacity for discernment, creativity, and moderation.

imTay చెప్పారు...

Maybe we should not mess with systems of vast complexity like the social aspects of human sexuality since the consequences are probably impossible to predict.

n.n చెప్పారు...

Men and women are equal in human rights and complementary in Nature/nature.

Howard చెప్పారు...

Male and female beauty are actually proxies for health, athleticism intelligence and reliability, not the other way around.

n.n చెప్పారు...

From the purely secular, evolutionary perspective, the female sex is a prop and womb, on a farm in modern families. Masculine genders are anthropogenic gender inseminators (AGI) and herders gazing, fondling clouds.

n.n చెప్పారు...

Morris was politically incongruent and socially progressive.

BarrySanders20 చెప్పారు...

I always thought peckers were in it for the poontang, but turns out this one guy (Desmond Morris) was in it for the bestseller list.

Aggie చెప్పారు...

Ah, those bygone days of literal interpretations about sex. How far we've come.

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

Proponents of strictly ‘hard-wired’ human behaviors often end up issuing strong prescriptions about how people should live. Unnecessary if the traits were truly fixed and automatic.”

Enigma చెప్పారు...

@Eva Marie --

Scientist emphasized moderate nature vs. nuture models for generations. They used to say behavior was 40% biological, 40% social, and 20% random. Then they got fMRI machines, DNA testing, etc. Now the evidence is closer to 60% biological. Male and female brains, as well as bodies, are indeed different.

Note that the tabula rasa "blank slate" left most recently issued strong, dogmatic DEI/equity prescriptions about how people should live. The old-time bio guys like Morris were typically centrists or sane leftists, and the data easily discredits 100% social models of behavior.

How long did lefty DEI Colorado persecute of the Christian baker? What about the one-sided nature of "Conversion Therapy" dogma?

Josephbleau చెప్పారు...

Contraception has turned us into drug resistant bacteria. We still have the same physical instincts and incentives but it no longer leads to reproduction. Humans have trick fucked themselves out of their environmental niche.

Jupiter చెప్పారు...

"anyone else?"
I read it when it was first published. But I recall that he said the hairs on men's backs curl around in a way that he somehow thought was related to water, and hypothesized that humans had at some previous time been aquatic. I was only 13, but I could see that didn't make any sense at all. I decided he was a sensationalist fruitcake. Prove me wrong.

john mosby చెప్పారు...

" female breasts had developed as imitation buttocks 'to shift the interest of the male to the front"

...easier to say "my eyes are up here!" vs "My eyes are on the other side!" I guess. CC, JSM

Roger Sweeny చెప్పారు...

gilbar, I read it back then, too. Thought it was great. Wished history could exchange it for all of Freud, who set psychology down a wrong road for decades. Still feel that way but tried to reread it a few years ago and found lots of it pretty bad.

rehajm చెప్పారు...

Manwatching was a freshman textbook for me, over a decade after it was published…

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

" female breasts had developed as imitation buttocks 'to shift the interest of the male to the front"

...easier to say "my eyes are up here!" vs "My eyes are on the other side!" I guess. CC, JSM


It seems to me that both sides are pretty damn interesting.

"I hate to see you go, but I love to watch you walking away."

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

“How long did lefty DEI Colorado persecute of the Christian baker? What about the one-sided nature of "Conversion Therapy" dogma?”
Both sides in the nature vs nurture debate lack confidence in their own positions.
We’d be better off forgetting the debate and building a society that prioritizes individual freedom and merit.

Sydney చెప్పారు...

Gilbar asked "i actually READ the Naked Ape, way back around 1980..anyone else?"
I read my parents' copy of it when I was a teenager, but only the salacious parts.

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

Let me add: when I say we’d be better off forgetting the debate - I don’t mean in forums such as these. I mean in real life.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

@Eva Marie --

Left or right-wing zealots and absolutists do not lack confidence; to the contrary they are ignorantly overconfident. The left aggressively pushed the middle and right wings out of universities and career government jobs and media way back in the 1960s and 1970s. See Jimmy Carter and the end of the Civil Service exam (1978) as discriminatory. See Obama and Biden for refusing to hire exceptionally well-qualified white male air traffic controllers because of DEI.

The dogmatic left pushed its blank slate utopian DEI fantasy as 'science' and 'proven' for decades. The debate cannot end when (state funded) gender reassignment and DEI outcomes remain scientific nonsense but official dogmas.

George Leroy Tirebiter చెప్పారు...

Re: “ Wished history could exchange it for all of Freud, who set psychology down a wrong road for decades.”

Maybe take a wander through Wilhelm Reich’s muscular armour orgone bioenergetic primal pathways…

Smilin' Jack చెప్పారు...

“Living organisms had existed on earth, without ever knowing why, for over three thousand million years before the truth finally dawned on one of them. His name was Charles Darwin…Is there a meaning to life? What are we for? What is man? After posing the last of these questions, the eminent zoologist G. G. Simpson put it thus: ‘The point I want to make now is that all attempts to answer that question before 1859 are worthless and that we will be better off if we ignore them completely.’”
— Richard Dawkins, “The Selfish Gene”

It took another century before meaningful attempts were made, but Morris was one of the first. The earliest I know of (if you ignore Freud’s nonsense) to receive popular attention was Robert Ardrey, with “African Genesis” in 1961.

stunned చెప్పారు...

Desmond Morris talked about the dangers of overpopulation (the human zoo) and war (tribal aggression, describing humans as a monkey with a diseased brain). He criticized the aggressive behaviors as a failure to adapt to modern life, but saw the ability to create art, invent, and use symbols as a positive, redemptive evolutionary force, the indication the human animal isn't content with just survival. This is why he turned to surrealism during the war as a form of personal rebellion against human aggression.

He saw human smile as an act of a VOLUNTARY anti-aggression mechanism, baring teeth to indicate friendliness and pro-sociability (primates bare teeth to show aggression or fear) that enabeld humans to survive, bond and collaborate in groups.

Fred Drinkwater చెప్పారు...

Dawkins is wacky on the subject of religion, but "The Selfish Gene" and "The Blind Watchmaker" are must-reads.

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

Leftists understand that their ideas can only be imposed by force. They have zero confidence (or for that matter belief) that the societal changes they want would ever occur organically.
I don’t see the same level of zealotry on the right. What I do see is significant frustration with women who refuse to embrace what they consider their “natural” roles. To me, that very frustration suggests those roles may not be as instinctive or universal as they assume.

n.n చెప్పారు...

Pattern matching to support preconceptions, cloudy conceptions, is state of the art... science.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

@Eva Marie --

The collapse of traditional male/female roles follows from affluenza economics over the last 100+ years. We've been through an incredible wealth-building run: coal, steam engines, railroads, steamships, modern medicine, modern agriculture, etc. These made the 20th-century social welfare programs possible, be they European or Great Society.

People got fat because physical labor wasn't needed and because food got very cheap. Government gifts to poor mothers made poor and uncompetitive men obsolete; single motherhood skyrocketed.

On top of this, media exposure from film to TV to the web distorted self-consciousness and caused anxiety. No one alive today lives in historical/evolved human roles these days. Old-time men would have died in hunting and construction accidents; old-time women died in large numbers during childbirth.

We've become the elite, aimless leisure class of Zardoz (1974).

Bruce Hayden చెప్పారు...

“ I read it when it was first published. But I recall that he said the hairs on men's backs curl around in a way that he somehow thought was related to water, and hypothesized that humans had at some previous time been aquatic. I was only 13, but I could see that didn't make any sense at all. I decided he was a sensationalist fruitcake. Prove me wrong.”

There is some physiological evidence of a semi aquatic past, but no fossil or skeletal evidence, at least so far.

Here is some of that evidence:
- hair patterns
- fairly flexible spine, allowing for swimming
- increased buoyancy.
- baby response to potential drowning by closing throat.
- digestion optimized for eating fish, over completely terrestrial land animals.

I think that there may be more. But we differ from other Apes in these key areas, and esp here, with Chimps, our closest genetic relatives, from whom we supposedly split maybe 7.5 million years ago.

Bruce Hayden చెప్పారు...

Human breast size is, of course, a sexual lure. They don’t have to be that large for the purpose of lactation. And supposedly the mimic buttocks, to move male interest to frontal, instead of rear, vaginal entry (with a simultaneous shift. In the angle of the vagina). And this is supposedly for the purpose of mostly Monogamous pair bonding, dedicating male support for their shared children.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

See the controversial "Aquatic Ape Hypothesis." In particular, the 1972 response to Desmond Morris by Elaine Morgan in "The Descent of Woman." There was a lot of ideology and feminism and wannabe revolutionary politics back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquatic_ape_hypothesis

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

@Enigma Too gloomy and too doctrinaire for me. Yes, industrial wealth, safer childbirth, mass media and most importantly reliable birth control methods have changed the old constraints, but what we’re really seeing is that when mortality and subsistence pressures drop, people have more freedom to exercise more choice, and a wider range of male and female life options surface - some good, some bad, depending on your point of view. And the idea that ‘government gifts’ simply made men obsolete is too simple explanation for what’s actually a much more complicated phenomenon.
1st add: The elephant in the room (in my opinion) is reliable birth control. That outweighs all the other factors in the changes that have occurred in the past 75 years.
2nd add: For all the talk of freedom, there’s a reluctance to let people really exercise it and a lack of faith in what humans can do with it. That just makes me even more in awe of our Founding Fathers. What extraordinary men they were.

IamDevo చెప్పారు...

Desmond Morris. Paul Ehrlich. The biggest frauds and charlatans in the pseudoscientific world are dying off. Can we possibly hope this bodes well for the future of scientific investigation? Nahhh.

Marcus Bressler చెప్పారు...

I read it when it was published in paperback IIRC because it was the only dirty book I was allowed to buy and keep as a teenager.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

@Eva Marie --

You are stating the positives of the same thesis.

Given the USSR's use of abortion as birth control (5x per woman per lifetime), and Planned Parenthood in the US, I don't think birth control proper was a main factor. Modern, survivable abortion was a factor. The "pill" and Hugh Hefner's Playboy era dominated for about 20 years. Then, herpes and HIV brought back old-fashioned condoms by the 1980s.

Birth control also doesn't explain the loss of interest in sex and reproduction in Japan, Korea, and now the US. A large percentage remain virgins until age 30 today.

Regarding men becoming irrelevant, see the unemployed immigrant underclass across Europe and the correlation between Great Society and the decline of black culture. More money and gifts = chaos. Sudden wealth completely destroys any internal reward system, and as the group difference gap has always been huge.

Sudden bird guano wealth led to luxury car purchases and destroyed the health and economy of the Pacific island of Nauru

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2015/06/nauru-island-country-destroyed-by.html

I'm bucket-of-cold-water gloomy about human nature. Selfish, predatory animals we are. Many humans need a cold shower to return to a functional state.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

@Bruce Hayden: Human breast size is, of course, a sexual lure. They don’t have to be that large for the purpose of lactation. And supposedly the mimic buttocks,

I've heard that one, but I don't buy it as the primary reason. Breasts do confirm reproductive maturity, but a front-facing entry is easy to figure out, and it isn't even 'needed' today. Given African tribal mixed/marginal sexualization of breasts, I think the large size and tissue flexibility have more to do with feeding babies when standing upright.

Women are prone to developing scoliosis, and this facilitates easy carrying of stuff or babies on one hip. Human breasts without a bra stretch out and get quite long. One might effectively feed an unstable baby while working and doing other chores.

All of these post-hoc evolutionary explanations have limits. They are always somewhat speculative.

Justabill చెప్పారు...

I was 11 when I read an excerpt of The Naked Ape in Readers’ Digest and , thinking that it sounded very scientific, stopped at the downtown department store on my way home from church school and bought a copy. I didn’t understand why the young woman at the register was looking at me so strangely until I got home. Yowzah.

Achilles చెప్పారు...

Eva Marie said...

2nd add: For all the talk of freedom, there’s a reluctance to let people really exercise it and a lack of faith in what humans can do with it. That just makes me even more in awe of our Founding Fathers. What extraordinary men they were.

People are all about the freedom.

They just don't want the responsibility.

If a woman gets drunk at a party then she can claim she was raped for the next 30 years.

Kids who are raised by people who cannot pair bond have vastly lower chances of success. But nobody wants to take responsibility for future generations anymore.

Achilles చెప్పారు...

Eva Marie said...

“How long did lefty DEI Colorado persecute of the Christian baker? What about the one-sided nature of "Conversion Therapy" dogma?”
Both sides in the nature vs nurture debate lack confidence in their own positions.
We’d be better off forgetting the debate and building a society that prioritizes individual freedom and merit.


So nobody cares about the kids?

Oso Negro చెప్పారు...

@Smilin Jack - Yes, Mr. Charles Darwin had the gall to ask, and we come ever closer to the "how". But it is the acme of hubris to image we are any closer to the "why" that our forebears watching the night show of the heavens as the fires died down.

Oso Negro చెప్పారు...

@Engima - No one gets the exact amount of confidence they deserve; some get more, some less. But the truth is NOT always in some moderate middle. Being perceived as an "extremist" according to the contemporary beliefs of all right-thinking people does not make one wrong.

Oso Negro చెప్పారు...
ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.
Oso Negro చెప్పారు...

@ Eva Marie
Yes, birth control helped, but the counter examples are the poor countries where birth control is equally available, but women retain traditional roles. I worked for both Syntex Chemical (manufacturer of the bulk chemical that was the major active ingredient in birth control in the 60s, and is still used to this day) and Hoffman LaRoche of Valium (diazepam) fame. In this century, birth control is sold like candy and you have to whine and plead at the doctor or run down to Mexico to get a Valium. Has the long term societal good been served? I dunno. The planet was a fine place with 2.85 billion people when I showed up - will it be dreadful for the population to decline to that number in the future?

Affluence has lately been on my mind relative to the behavior of American women. I will look for such research, but fear the Althouse Postulate on Gender Research will be in effect.

Again, it is my view that feminism was the most damaging "ism" of the 20th century for Western culture. The man-hating element of second wave feminism must be delighted at the result of their works, for despite the recent trend of tradwives, the tree of female grievance is in ever greater blossom. Look up Sofia Isella song "Above the Neck". Consider the meet the bear or man in the forest phenomenon. Just this morning I watched a TikTok in which a young woman explained that men should not walk behind women on an urban sidewalk, but cross to the other side of the street so the woman would be comfortable. What a far cry from my grandmother expressing gratitude to a young black man helping her cross a downtown St. Louis street on a windy day in the 1960s when her cane wasn't enough for balance.

Relative to your “2nd add”: Yes. Yes, yes, yes! For all the talk of freedom, most people have no idea what it is like to roam the earth as a free person. None whatsoever. In 1957, the Code of Federal Regulations totaled 19,589 pages, today the estimate is 190,000 pages. Nearly a 1,000% increase in freedom in my lifetime! Armies of do-gooders and generations of inspired lawyers eating away at our freedom in the name of public safety and progress. So yes, "That just makes me even more in awe of our Founding Fathers. What extraordinary men they were." They absolutely were. Sadly, our country has returned to the historical mean of political leadership in subsequent years. But at least girls can join the Boy Scouts! And young POCs are free to roam the urban environment despoiling the culture and commerce of our once great cities. And parents no longer injure their elbows from swiftly bracing their unrestrained children in the front seat on sudden braking of the family sedan

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

@Achilles:
I think there’s some truth in what you’re saying about responsibility, but I’m cautious about drawing broad conclusions about people or families. I say this from the vantage point of observing many marriages (especially the marriages of my childhood) and non marriages that produced children. My observations aren’t scientifically valid and they’re shaped by my own biases. But humans are complicated, and success or failure of children rarely comes down to a single factor. Averages aren’t destiny.
Where you highlight women who evade responsibilities, I notice how often it’s men who avoid them. The widespread use of automatic wage garnishment for child support reflects an ongoing problem with noncustodial parents - overwhelmingly fathers - failing to pay consistently on their own. Trying to avoid responsibility isn’t a female or male trait. It’s a human trait.
What still strikes me about our Founding Fathers is that they built a system assuming both strengths and weaknesses in human nature. And I still admire the heck out of them

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

@Oso Negro
“Again, it is my view that feminism was the most damaging "ism" of the 20th century for Western culture.”
No. But I do think the feminist movement - like the pro‑abortion movement - was co‑opted by the Democrat Party. Feminists with views compatible with the party secured comfortable positions in universities, media, and other institutions that reliably rewarded ideological alignment. What started as a legitimate push for legal equality was channeled into a partisan stance that often clashes with family stability, basic biological realities, and also fails to address the real needs of women outside Western circles.
Let me add I watched a lot of the recent ICE protests. A pattern stood out: women were frequently at the front lines with megaphones, while men provided the muscle behind them. Funding likely involved a mix as well. I’m not saying men bear all the responsibility for either the co-opting of feminism or these protests - but they certainly share it.

Oso Negro చెప్పారు...

@Eva Marie - In general, the pathologies of men are legislated against. The pathologies of women are celebrated in story, film and song. Data point - the population of incarcerated persons (formerly known as criminals) is 93-94% men. Attempts to create "equity" and social justice in sentencing appear focused NOT on dealing with the pathologies of women, but rather letting more incarcerated men loose on society or simply not jailing them in the first place. If men are the ones overwhelmingly having wages garnished for failure to pay child support, why hasn't equity in family court eliminated child support altogether? When you are living with Mom, you get Mom resources and live Mom's lifestyle. When you are living with Dad, you get Dad resources and get Dad's lifestyle.

Here are some interesting facts from Grok - 1) two-thirds of divorces in the USA that involve children result in sole custody (instead of some form of joint or shared) 2) in sole custody cases, roughly 80% go to the mother. 3) 71% of non-custodial fathers pay at least some child support, versus 62% of non-custodial mothers. And my favorite fact 4) In aggregate dollars (2022 data, among those supposed to receive): Custodial mothers (owed mostly by non-custodial fathers) received about 64% of the amount due ($16.2B received out of $25.2B supposed). Custodial fathers (owed mostly by non-custodial mothers) received about 63% of the amount due ($3.0B received out of $4.8B supposed).

And all this with the Althouse Postulate on Gender Research in effect.

Oso Negro చెప్పారు...

Oh, and AMBER alert data shows roughly 60% of the alerts are for children "abducted" by family members. 25% are abducted by mothers. 53% by fathers. The breakdown of the remaining family member abductors is a fascinating list and includes the important category of "mother's boyfriend". Zero abduction, oh so oddly, by "father's girlfriend". Let's ponder - are the bitches simply snitches or are the men more than splooge stooges?

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

@Oso Negro
1. I will concede the child support issue. You’re right. I was wrong. In fact noncompliance rated are slightly higher for women than for men. “Custodial fathers (owed by non-custodial mothers) were more likely to receive zero payments (around 38% in some years) compared to custodial mothers (around 29%).” (Grok)
2. We agree ( I think) on custody arrangements. Courts have gone too far in favoring mothers. While biology gives moms an edge in the early years of a child’s life, that advantage doesn’t justify the strong favoring of mothers over fathers that for older children and even when fathers are very involved. The ‘best interests of the child’ should be based on evidence of actual parenting quality and involvement.
3. “In general, the pathologies of men are legislated against. The pathologies of women are celebrated.” You cannot compare male pathologies to those of females. Male pathologies are far more consequential. The one statistic that can’t be fudged is the murder rate. Men commit 90% of all murders. And that has stayed consistent over years. However this is also true: Men are still largely encouraged to control their impulses, especially around aggression and risk. Women, instead, are often encouraged to embrace and act on theirs - particularly emotional ones such as empathy, resentment, or the desire to leave unsatisfying situations.
4. I agree that men are right to feel aggrieved in many instances. I just don’t think this is solely the fault of women. And I am strongly of the opinion that there’s an ulterior motive in the effort to drive a permanent wedge between men and women.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

@Eva Marie: You cannot compare male pathologies to those of females. Male pathologies are far more consequential. The one statistic that can’t be fudged is the murder rate. Men commit 90% of all murders. And that has stayed consistent over years.

No. Female pathologies are every bit as consequential or more so. Women commit 'social executions' per gossip, backstabbing, lying, excommunication, and manipulation. Women have been masters of poisoning from the Roman Empire to the recent Australian wild mushroom in-law murders.

The female versions of competition and compliance serve to create and maintain everything from harems to cults to fundamentalist religions. When they are passive or true believers in charge of the young next generation, women guarantee future militancy, separation, and functional dead ends. See Woke and how the majority of college students are now female.

Men are much more often physically violent, but quickly get to the point. Easy to read. Women are stealthy and slow and tend to be overlooked, but every bit as destructive and effective in their pathologies.

"The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

A male is akin to a spider bite or snake bite -- may kill in a few hours. A female is akin to an infected mosquito bite or a virus -- may kill in months or years.

narciso చెప్పారు...

Why have men turned more violent, in this supposedly civilized age

Eva Marie చెప్పారు...

And who said, “The female of the species is more deadly than( the male”? It was a guy wasn’t it?
It’s a debate that’s easy to settle. Next time we have someone on death row, we’ll ask him whether he wants a “social execution” or a real one.
BTW: Rudyard Kipling my favorite author.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

@Eva Marie --

As you routinely structure your responses, death row and direct murder is only half of the story.

Ask all of the people who lost their jobs because of COVID paranoia, Jan 6 paranoia, DEI paranoia whether they like social execution. Ask the spouses of those who then committed suicide or went broke or got divorced from the stress.

As I JUST wrote, female pathologies function as a chronic or fatal infection or virus. They can result in the total destruction of entire cultures -- see South Korea and lefty US birthrates.

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