Full context, at Truth Social: "Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP"
Hard to believe, but there it is.
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237లో 1 – 200 కొత్తది» సరి కొత్తది»It's not going to work. Persians think that stubbornness in the face of doom is a super strength. They would prefer the Stone Age to losing face.
I think the "Praise be to Allah" is rather Brilliant.
In the west - we are lectured to by leftists, that Islam should be respected. It is equal or better than the Christian God.
@Meade, can’t you explain menfolk to your wife?
Hard to believe?
This behavior is a surprise to no one. You voted for the clown and now claim you are shocked there is a circus.
Beats the hell out of "Don't" coming from an old decrepit man or a word salad chef.
This is language that makes the target believe.
The Democrat multi-million dollar-think-tank strategy is for leftie candidates to talk more like that. Hard to believe bit there it is…
You voted for the clown and now claim you are shocked there is a circus.
…I was gonna say you we’re never going to vote for him anyways so what do you care?
😆 I love that it upsets libtard Democrat Party members so much.
Patriotic Americans were more disturbed and upset by the anti-American, racist shit that came from Obama and Biden.
It's speech unbecoming the President of the United States who should know better than to drop his "g"s.
Another devout Easter message from evangelists's favorite Christian.
God wants us to have their oil, and now so does Allah. What are they waiting for?
How about Netanyahu doing the seder thing with the ten plagues, only instead of the Ancient Egyptians, who were holding the Israelites in bondage, he is wishing to bring the plagues down on Iran, and guess what? If Trump knocks out all of their power, like he is promising, that will be the end of treated water and treated sewage, and plagues there will be, like boils, like cholera
We have become a theocracy.
Reminiscent of Slim Pickens in Dr Strangelove.
“Persians think that stubbornness in the face of doom is a super strength.“
Persians are the Iranians, not a part of the regime. It’s the islamists that are being stubborn.
This is why you don't win until the enemy is forced to beg for their life. This is how WWII ended, with begging. The Persians are all talk, constant bickering, and because of this, they interpret any talk as just that - 'talk'. Action will be forced because talk won't work.
Yes. It’s “hard to believe” for most of the western world…
https://x.com/TKratman/status/2040614119506575429?s=20
The fanatical Islamist regime thought Trump a clown too. The landscape is littered with those who misjudged Trump as a clown. It's pretty much the dumbest take out there.
You know. The thing, mark…
And yet if he doesn’t bomb the infrastructure as threatened, it the same people saying that it would be a war crime will call him a TACO as if that’s a bad thing.
In the meantime the Seals will have cut the pipelines to Kharg Island and Iran won’t have any oil to load onto tankers.
Once the decision to act was made at the end of February, it needed to become an object lesson to never be forgotten if the Iranian regime refused to bend the knee. I doubt the Trump Administration thought it would come to this but it has and the threat does need to be delivered on if nothing changes.
He's speaking in their language and reminding them that Allah is on the side of the strong horse, and that ain't them.
Hard to believe, but there it is.
LOL!
This is why the vast majority of women are completely unsuited for government leadership beyond the local community level.
They just cannot get past what they want and their feelings.
Is he talking to the mullahs or to the Europeans?
Well the French teamed up with the Russians and Chinese
Total lost their primary fields ruwais and south pars
I liked the Donald Trump who told us he'd keep out of foreign wars more than I like this new guy.
But the differences between neocons, liberal internationalists, and "Jacksonians" have always been as much fictional as real. Give someone the immense power of the US military and they are eventually seduced by what it can do.
It could be worse. We could be listening to more years of lies and appeasement wrapped in flowery language and backtracking. I'll take the this clear transparency over that play acting bullshit. In fact, I don't see any workable alternative in the long run. We're lucky this guy is here now, because it was about to become too late.
Yeah, crazy. I hate Trump's speaking style. But the end result is better than his predecessors. Although I realize it is easier to just say, "Don't, don't, don't". Or draw a red line in vanishing ink. Then turn away from an almost 50 year old problem.
It's not hard to believe, it's predictable and it's almost certainly going to get worse. What's hard to believe is that there is still a significant number of Americans who will support him no matter how crazy it gets.
I see that not only has Jesus risen this morning, but the idiots have as well.
The Strait was open before Trump attacked Iran, and Iran's nuclear program was under an international inspection regime before Trump ripped up the agreement in his first term.
So basically Trump is planning to punish the nation of Iran for his own fuckups. Typical.
Trump ended the second Iraq war. He is taking steps to end a long-lived war and restore peace in the Middle East.
Sounds like an impotent bully at Best and a screaming harpy woman at worst. Iran is going to call his bluff because if Trump follows through with infrastructure destruction, the anti-Mullah Iranian majority will be united against the infidel invaders.
His statements contradict themselves. On the one hand, Trump claims that we don't need the straight open because we have our own oil. Then he goes on to say that the only condition of ceasefire is if Iran opens the strait, which we don't need. That is the antithesis of America first, isn't it??
Re Imtay's comment at 939 that the Iranian nuclear program "was under an international inspection regime". I'm reminded of an old Texas saying that goes, "You kin put feathers on a dog, but that don't mean it kin fly". That "inspection regime" was so good that the Iranians recently claimed they had enough uranium to make eleven bombs.
Peglegged Picador said...
"It's not hard to believe, it's predictable and it's almost certainly going to get worse. What's hard to believe is that there is still a significant number of Americans who will support him no matter how crazy it gets."
What should he have done?
Correct, imTay.
Having our President swear at them is a total Beta move as well. If you are the one holding the big stick, you should be able to speak softly and be heard.
Only dickless snot weasels and the mentally insane support this war. It'll take our entire armed forces three years to open the straight at a cost of the dollar having currency status.
This is a divine wind strategy.
You slander Beta's. It's a solid Omega response.
Aggie is correct. A war isn’t over until the enemy knows it is defeated. Victor Davis Hanson, the historian, is my source.
Keeping out of foreign wars is an unrealistic fantasy for the world's leading military power. We need to stay out of unnecessary wars, but this was not one of those. It was inevitable, because the Islamists saw it that way, and they were planning to bring Armageddon win or lose.
If world powers see that we are unwilling to fight, they will gradually take advantage of us and our allies until we are pushed into conflict. That's just the way of human society at every level, and always has been. It's naïve to pretend otherwise. The best way to avoid war is to be ready to wage it and win it, while offering cooperation as an alternative. There was no cooperation possible with "death to America".
Lazarus said...
I liked the Donald Trump who told us he'd keep out of foreign wars more than I like this new guy.
But the differences between neocons, liberal internationalists, and "Jacksonians" have always been as much fictional as real. Give someone the immense power of the US military and they are eventually seduced by what it can do.
People have no idea what BRICS replacing the dollar would have done to their quality of life in America.
You people just don't know what is going on in the world or how these systems worked.
Iran is the weak link in the Globalists effort to destroy the US economy and return Americans to serfdom.
You should all notice that the people of Europe are going to be forced to buy Oil and NG from America now because Europe will not help open the straight of Hormuz. The people of Europe are being fucked by their rulers. They are doing the bidding of their globalist rulers not of the people they rule. Even China has to buy NG from us now.
You should stop pretending that things you don't understand don't affect you.
You have to wait and see with Trump. He's always doing and saying stuff that sets off a chorus of Oh My God!'s and then a few days later everyone is like, Oh. Wow. Okay.
Sometimes he's just being outrageous and other times it's some kind of genius, out of the box move nobody else saw. That has happened over and over again.
Wouldn't that be wild if the crazy tweet actually worked? The beat-down, shit-scared surviving mullahs might just say, 'Even the Americans think he's a nut. Enough already. Let's make a deal."
I don't know.
The American left is like an unfaithful wife.
Did Trump spittle like when Hitler found out Straits not Open?
This was always preordained when Jimmy Carter facilitated the return of the apocalyptic Ayatollah to return to Iran. It was just a question of how many would be included in the apocalypse.
How many times does Trump have to say "or else" and not follow through? He's painting us into a corner.
Learn to love permanent $5 gasoline, Achilles. That's the logical result of this action.
Howard said...
Only dickless snot weasels and the mentally insane support this war. It'll take our entire armed forces three years to open the straight at a cost of the dollar having currency status.
This is a divine wind strategy.
Just because you don't understand why this war was good for America doesn't mean it isn't necessary to maintain your quality of life.
You are lashing out in ignorance. You are the limited one here not the people you are lashing out at.
You are embarrassing yourself.
You people forget that the Iranians control 1/3 of the world's nitrogen fertilizer. I guess you love paying $10 for a dozen eggs and $20 for a pound of ground beef.
Howard said...
Learn to love permanent $5 gasoline, Achilles. That's the logical result of this action.
LOL!
Previous state China and India got oil at 40 dollars a barrel and US paid 60+.
Globalist factories in Southeast Asia operated with structural advantage to factories in the west. Globalist hegamons that run amazon and walmart produce goods at structural advantage.
Now everyone is going to pay the same price for oil. long run we are all down to 50$ a barrel.
Just because you refuse to reason this out doesn't make you right. It just makes you loud and wrong.
How exactly is this war a benefit, Achilles? Given that their nuke program is obliterated and their ability to project regional power is destroyed?
Howard said...
You people forget that the Iranians control 1/3 of the world's nitrogen fertilizer. I guess you love paying $10 for a dozen eggs and $20 for a pound of ground beef.
Again, Globalist hegamons controlled that and used it to create structural production advantages. Venezuela and Iran have been taken from them.
Trump just took the tools the globalists were using to keep worldwide wages lower by forcing production to poor countries.
You can thank him when you finally settle down and start thinking logically at your capability.
Temu lee ermey is amusing
Howard asks how the war is a benefit then cites 2 of its benefits.
Come on, Ann!! It is not hard to believe at all. You knew who he was. Stop gaslighting your dumb Althouse Hillbilly readers.
What’s striking about this tweet is that it’s addressed to equals, not to obvious inferiors. This isn’t some distant superior being lecturing a lesser one; it’s a man who knows he has overwhelming power behind him, speaking in a direct, personal confrontation with a peer. It’s ten thousand times more respectful of the Iranian people than all the bullshit flowery phrases of diplomacy.
That’s why we love Trump.
Howard said...
You people forget that the Iranians control 1/3 of the world's nitrogen fertilizer. I guess you love paying $10 for a dozen eggs and $20 for a pound of ground beef.
Haber-Bosch works anywhere. Argentina used to a have a virtual monopoly on artificial fertilizer. How dis that work in the end?
I'm beginning to think that Howard is an avian species--a type of flinch.
Forgive me--this is a mere test.
In these letters the king authorized the Jews in each and every city to gather and defend their lives, to destroy, kill, and annihilate every armed group of any nation or province that might attack them, along with their wives and children, and to seize their goods as spoil —Book of Esther
Which is the theocracy in this war? This book specifically references Persia, justifies genocide, and the taking of their oil, and any other mineral resources that we might want.
Obviously anybody who doesn't understand that this war is sanctioned by God must be stupid.
imTay said...
In these letters the king authorized the Jews in each and every city to gather and defend their lives, to destroy, kill, and annihilate every armed group of any nation or province that might attack them, along with their wives and children, and to seize their goods as spoil —Book of Esther
Which is the theocracy in this war? This book specifically references Persia, justifies genocide, and the taking of their oil, and any other mineral resources that we might want.
Obviously anybody who doesn't understand that this war is sanctioned by God must be stupid.
The difference between Tim and Howard is that Howard has the capability to understand what is going on but most likely has some women watching the nightly news and has to listen to her rant in the background so he just knuckles under the pressure and turns his brain off.
Tim is just a dumb emotional ranter who attaches to something tangent to the issue and loses all logical control.
The U.S. produces 80% of the fertilizer used by its farmers and imports about 2% from the Middle East.
Is Althouse beginning to realize that maybe, just maybe, Trump is out of control?
Once written, twice... said...
Come on, Ann!! It is not hard to believe at all. You knew who he was. Stop gaslighting your dumb Althouse Hillbilly readers.
This is just an average democrat tribesman.
He will never actually venture out of his shell. Everyone that disagrees with this person is a "dumb Althouse Hillbilly readers."
This is a stupid person who thinks they are average.
Patton would be proud!
This "Truth" should be understood as Trump saying, "If you don't do what I want, I am going to commit war crimes to get my way."
I love all the flailing in here. Trump threatens the murderous Islamist regime, and they jump to attack him like he kicked their dog.
Patton would be proud!
No he wouldn't. He is probably spinning in his grave. He believed in rules of war and would be appalled if the commander in chief declared civilians to be legitimate targets.
I love all the flailing in here. Trump threatens the murderous Islamist regime, and they jump to attack him like he kicked their dog.
I would say the same about anyone advocating war crimes, which destroying civilian infrastructure undoubtedly is.
Enlighten-NewJersey said...
The U.S. produces 80% of the fertilizer used by its farmers and imports about 2% from the Middle East.
Again we revisit the structural nature of the problem being fixed here. Globalists have been using corrupt regimes like the one in Iran for a long long time. France ran the entire Sahel region of Africa for decades.
Did France use this power to help the people of France? No. The people of France gained none of that benefit. France used this leverage to push production to cheaper labor markets mostly in SE Asia.
The reason Western European leaders are freaking out right now is that their gloablist masters are losing all control they once had in the world and that means their gloabalist rules will not be able to keep them in power in western europe anymore.
The globalist rulers of Europe weren't able to replace their european serfs with Muslims in time.
What part makes Trump a clown, and out of control? Is it the harsh language or the threat to the fanatical murdering Islamists, or is it that Trump is accomplishing things forcefully? It can't be the language after all we have heard in the last few years directed at him by them, at their own President rather than at people calling for "death to America".
Get some perspective.
Canada and natural gas and fertilizer and get on it
Freder Frederson said...
I love all the flailing in here. Trump threatens the murderous Islamist regime, and they jump to attack him like he kicked their dog.
I would say the same about anyone advocating war crimes, which destroying civilian infrastructure undoubtedly is.
Only the US can commit war crimes according to freder.
Nothing Iran has done is a war crime. Because freder says so.
Nobody should take idiots like freder seriously. he is stupid and he is here in bad faith.
“I would say the same about anyone advocating war crimes, which destroying civilian infrastructure undoubtedly is.“
This is so patently absurd. But the thing is you realize it. It’s not an attempt at dialogue. You lefties need to start being honest with your arguments.
"I would say the same about anyone advocating war crimes, which destroying civilian infrastructure undoubtedly is."
Name a war without that.
The U.S. produces 80% of the fertilizer used by its farmers and imports about 2% from the Middle East.
fertilizer is a global commodity. I guess the U.S. could be isolated from the world market if the government instituted price controls and export bans. But gee, wouldn't that be fascism?
OMG! Trump said something!! Whatever shall we do? Now, where's that fainting couch?
Name a war without that.
Just because we don't always live up to our own standards, does not make it right to explicitly state it as a goal. Hell, even "Bomber" Harris didn't say the British bombers were targeting civilians, merely "dehousing" workers.
Never a complaint about Iran destroying civilian infrastructure of their neighbors who were not even attacking them. Not even killing their own civilians. Not a peep. How do you explain that imbalance of criticism?
Point proven: the seductive power of military force leads us to pursue goals through war, rather than by other means. So, we open up Pandora's Box and justify it with reference to explicitly imperialist goals.
I can remember endless conversations with people of all political stripes to the effect: “Why can’t politicians say what they really think, instead of passing everything through focus groups?” We got our wish. It’s great.
It wasn’t that long ago that the military would have likely disobeyed an order of massive war crimes.
Hitler had dissenting generals shot. Trump had his fired.
This is so patently absurd.
Why is it "patently absurd"? It's in Protocol I of the 1947 Geneva Conventions. According to Wikipedia "Articles 51 and 54 [of Protocol I] outlaw indiscriminate attacks on civilian populations, and destruction of food sources, water, or other materials needed for survival. This includes directly attacking civilian (non-military) targets, but also using technologies whose scope of destruction cannot be limited.[7] A total war that does not distinguish between civilian and military targets is considered a war crime."
Freder Frederson said...
Name a war without that.
Just because we don't always live up to our own standards, does not make it right to explicitly state it as a goal. Hell, even "Bomber" Harris didn't say the British bombers were targeting civilians, merely "dehousing" workers.
These are your standards. You only apply them to the US.
You want the US to lose so you apply standards to the US that you wont apply to our enemies.
It is the fundamental nature of the democrat party. They are traitors and slavers in our midst and their only goal is to tear down our country so they can take control of it and persecute their political enemies.
They want to turn the US into Iran where they are the controlling regime. They are angry when tyrants are deposed and the globalist regime they support is weakened because the globalist foreign regime is their sponsor here.
Freder is fundamentally a traitor serving foreign entities. They are working together to seize control of our country.
"Just because we don't always live up to our own standards, does not make it right to explicitly state it as a goal."
So this "war crime" happens every single time with every single war, yet you would prefer your leader tell you an obvious lie about it. Maybe it's some kid of neurotic need to be lied to rather than face the truth of your actions. Nothing seems to make the left angrier than Trump telling the truth.
Freder Frederson said...
This is so patently absurd.
Why is it "patently absurd"? It's in Protocol I of the 1947 Geneva Conventions. According to Wikipedia "Articles 51 and 54 [of Protocol I] outlaw indiscriminate attacks on civilian populations, and destruction of food sources, water, or other materials needed for survival. This includes directly attacking civilian (non-military) targets, but also using technologies whose scope of destruction cannot be limited.[7] A total war that does not distinguish between civilian and military targets is considered a war crime."
The Geneva conventions are a creation of European Rulers with one goal: constrain the United States.
This is again an attempt by Freder to put shackles on his only true enemy: the United States.
Trumps’ goal is to have the strait of Hormuz opened. The US doing it is the third resort-behind Iran itself, then by the consumers of that oil.
US, Middle Eastern, and North Sea crude all trade for the roughly same price now, meaning the US is exporting a significant amount of crude. Trump could limit exports, creating increasing pressure on the consumers of ME oil to force the Strait open.
We're a long way from Warren Christopher asking if we could just shoot our enemies in the leg, ankle or shoulder.
In the 18th century world powers thought it was a crime to hide behind a tree or duck in battle.
meanwhile the imams and buddies don't give a flying fuck
And last week Trump passed up his chance to declare victory and dream up a different approached.
Language gets looser and looser. "Elites" and "globalists" become shorthand for "people I don't like" or "people I disagree with." See Kurt Schlichter's "Our Own Ruling Class Desperately Wants to Lose This War." A lot of people may want to lose the war, but does "our own ruling class" accurately describe them?
" you crazy bastards" is a personal insult and threat to leaders who have witnessed their compatriots vaporized.
More assassinations and precision bombing would be useful.
Kill all the leaders until reasonable ones take their place.
Worse thing to do is attack infrastructure, which would turn the population against us.
jim said...
meanwhile the imams and buddies don't give a flying fuck.
Correct, they need to die so the country can prosper in peace.
Remember the good old Obama days of give them a fake treaty and send them pallets of unmarked bills.
He boldly predicted the war would be over by now. Now he seems emotional and desperate.
He has rarely seemed desperate this way.
Of course, I've been wrong about Trump many times.
How many elite have shown support except possibly from dimon
"Having our President swear at them is a total Beta move as well. If you are the one holding the big stick, you should be able to speak softly and be heard."
So you think if Trump just said "please" they might fold and open the straight?
Trump's style is why he's President. Strong talk probably got Biden elected (along with the fraud). Can you imagine Trump saying "If you don't vote for me you ain't Black." or Obama with "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun", or " I know whose ass to kick."
You voted for the guys that said that about their own citizens rather than a murderous regime at war.
OK, now I'm worried.
Jersey Fled said...
Remember the good old Obama days of give them a fake treaty and send them pallets of unmarked bills.
Obama was a traitor working for the globalist regime. Obama was all for forcing production to cheap SE factories. It created more peasants for him here in the US.
Democrats and most elected Republicans have been trying to turn Americans into global peasants for decades. Trump is tearing down the ill gotten gains of the US uniparty and the current European Rulers.
The Open southern border and the hollowing out of our core industrial output is being brought to an end by a President that wants Americans to be free and prosperous.
Finally.
Red rover, red rover, open the strait right over.
Obama also released over a hundred billion dollars in contested funds, a legacy from Carter days, if memory serves.
CJinPA said...
He boldly predicted the war would be over by now. Now he seems emotional and desperate.
He has rarely seemed desperate this way.
Of course, I've been wrong about Trump many times.
He did not expect the globalist rulers in Europe to go to the mat like this.
To be honest I am surprised myself. Even Meloni is turned. I did not expect this. The globalists could have retired to their mansions and lived a life of luxury.
But they are more concerned about their power and keeping their serfs than money or comfort.
What I am surprised at is that Trump is showing this much resolve. He has always gone along before.
But what is happening now is necessary unless you want everyone in the world to be a global serf.
"What's hard to believe is that there is still a significant number of Americans who will support him no matter how crazy it gets."
We like the way he makes people like you whine.
I much prefer Obama’s approach of giving his debate opponent the middle finger while pretending he was just itching his nose.
Now that was such a smooth and mature gesture. Not like that brute Trump!
Some blame the left referendum against her, a shame
FF, this is such bullshit - and you know it is. A bit of honesty would serve you better.
The Geneva Conventions don’t say “any hit on civilian infrastructure is a war crime.” Even the GC makes allowance for strikes on things like power plants or bridges if they’re genuine military targets or dual use facilities and the civilian harm isn’t wildly disproportionate. Nothing we have done is a war crime by the GC or any other stupid ass metric - and you know it.
"You should all notice that the people of Europe are going to be forced to buy Oil and NG from America now because Europe will not help open the straight of Hormuz."
Achilles, help me out here. If getting Iran to close the Strait was a clever way to pressure the Europeans (into what, I don't know), then why is he telling them to reopen it?
I'm sorry, folks, I'm afraid this time Bre'r Fox has smacked our great, big fist right into the tar-baby. And now he's getting ready to kick it.
Trump being himself, just to piss off the left, and feminists. He trolls, and the collective left goes insane.
As usual, the left and boomer women have no fucking clue about terrorists. They don't play by our rules. They use kids as human shields, places of worship as munitions dumps, and soldiers and civilians as cannon fodder.
Trump calling them out as the cowards and scum that they are is beautiful.
the left would rather fake mourning for dead Americans than cheer for American success.
Jimmy Carter was the perfect feminist president. He got his ass kicked, and he sat down and cried. and American soldiers died so he and others could feel self righteous.
https://open.substack.com/pub/americanrefugees/p/why-meloni-backstabbed-trump?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2czur
n.n said...
Trump ended the second Iraq war. He is taking steps to end a long-lived war and restore peace in the Middle East.
I would not use "restore". the middle east including Persia has been at war continuously for 5,000 years
Trump seems to be the first person ever to make any progress toward bringing peace. He may not do it, though he has made more progress than everyone else. If he does, it may not last.
But he is the first to make any progress.
John Henry
I do have to say, closing the Strait is something Iran could have done any time in the last 40 years. It is amazing how completely unprepared the World was. For the last twenty years, they have all been swearing that they are going to start living without fossil fuels in about fifteen minutes. Looks like your fifteen minutes is up. Better fire up those solar panels! Get those windmills a-spinnin'! Good thing your cars are all electric.
The Geneva conventions are a creation of European Rulers with one goal: constrain the United States.
Well, that is some revisionist bullshit. The U.S. was the main author and proponent of the 1947 protocols.
Even the GC makes allowance for strikes on things like power plants or bridges if they’re genuine military targets or dual use facilities and the civilian harm isn’t wildly disproportionate.
So Trump is just being imprecise and saying "Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran", and threatening to unleash Hell is not wildly disproportionate (and I don't think you will find the phrase disproportionately modified by "wildly" in the actual Geneva Conventions.
The Abraham Accords offered them a short but forward-looking respite.
Never a complaint about Iran destroying civilian infrastructure of their neighbors who were not even attacking them. Not even killing their own civilians. Not a peep. How do you explain that imbalance of criticism?
Because those war crimes (and they are indeed war crimes) are not being done in my name. I am American, not Iranian.
Freder Frederson said...
"Is Althouse beginning to realize that maybe, just maybe, Trump is out of control?"
Oh sweetie. I thought you would have evolved in the passing years. Could it be that this is truly your Final Form? I'm so sorry
Thirty years ago
How the words would flow
With passion and precision
But now his mind is dark and dulled
By sickness and indecision
This regime was born of a war crime the seizjng of an embassy they bombef them in beirut and buenos aires
Jupiter said...
"You should all notice that the people of Europe are going to be forced to buy Oil and NG from America now because Europe will not help open the straight of Hormuz."
Achilles, help me out here. If getting Iran to close the Strait was a clever way to pressure the Europeans (into what, I don't know), then why is he telling them to reopen it?
I'm sorry, folks, I'm afraid this time Bre'r Fox has smacked our great, big fist right into the tar-baby. And now he's getting ready to kick it.
I already helped you out. There are several posts above.
Read them. If you can't understand them that is not on me.
Trump is taking out the weak link in the globalist empire right now. He is returning sovereignty to Americans that has been ceded to globalist rulers by the Uniparty here is the US.
This is what America First actually looks like. No more BRICS. The Dollar is the global currency. No more structural discounts for producing goods in SE Asia.
Open the Hormuz Strait away.
Just read the Chicago Trib article on "trans folks flocking to Peoria", so hardly offended by tweets directed at Iran.
Liar. Trump never said or implied that there would be indiscriminate attacks on the civilian population.
Freder Frederson said...
Never a complaint about Iran destroying civilian infrastructure of their neighbors who were not even attacking them. Not even killing their own civilians. Not a peep. How do you explain that imbalance of criticism?
Because those war crimes (and they are indeed war crimes) are not being done in my name. I am American, not Iranian.
You should leave the US.
You belong in Europe where you will be a serf ruled by your globalist masters.
You are a traitor in this country.
How do we avoid inflation in a global commodity market when a huge chunk of the basic chemical feedstock eg lifeblood is taken off the table?
As Freder has stated, government price and export control. What are the other options?
And Achilles is correct: Obama was a traitor, but his advisor-in-chief Valerie Jarrett was/is the bigger traitor, a certified tree-hugging Iranist.
Trump never said or implied that there would be indiscriminate attacks on the civilian population.
Really?!
Trump Easter ~ “Praise Be To Allah”
He's going for another FIFA Peace Prize.
It seems to me Trump is doing a bit of a weave here. Fifty years of diversifying oil supplies after the initial OPEC embargo means that very little of the oil that transits Hormuz is destined to Europe. Almost all of it goes to China, India, and SE Asia/WestPac countries (which is why the Aussies are hurting right now). What Europe needs is to continue getting low cost imports from China since they've outsourced so much of their basic manufacturing and industrial inputs, as well as exports of finished goods since they are now paying significantly higher prices for oil and petrochemical feedstocks. All of that is negatively affected to a much greater degree for them than us since we've been reshoring since the fracking boom started. I suspect the slow and often downright hostile EU response right now is thinking they can wait out the conflict because Trump will be forced to pull back by either domestic political pressure or Iranian intransigence. It's not necessarily a bad play but it could backfire if the geopolitical situation stays tilted against China.
Why the hell do you guys keep disparaging women on these threads. There’s not a single woman commenter here who has written one tenth the stupid stuff FF, Dinky, Howard, Mark, etc has written and yet you guys never seem to realize it’s your lefty brethren who are the problem.
O yeah, I left out littleE, my apologies.
After making my way through comments, I find an amazing number of folks who know exactly what is going to happen next, and how long this war is going to last. Hmm...
Get your money down, then - if the money will matter after whatever's next.
You should leave the US.
You belong in Europe where you will be a serf ruled by your globalist masters.
You are a traitor in this country.
And you are tiresome.
Praise be to Allah.
Translation: Your god is clearly on my side, you mullah losers.
Freder will always stand with the commies and islamists thats golden
Its a bit of a broad brush eva
That achilles employs
They're on the other side. Doesn't matter why.
The deadline is tomorrow. Trump said what needed to be said in language that leaves no doubt. The enemy will understand even if the ladies here do not.
Howard said...
How do we avoid inflation in a global commodity market when a huge chunk of the basic chemical feedstock eg lifeblood is taken off the table?
As Freder has stated, government price and export control. What are the other options?
The Mullahs were just part of the gloablist regime.
What this does is put that basic chemical stock into the hands of whatever regime ends up controlling Iran after this is done. It isn't off the table, just in different hands.
And not the hands of a globalist ruling oligarchy that is trying to turn Americans into serfs in our own country where wages are depressed by open borders and US manufacturing cannot compete with SE Asia factories due to structural inefficiencies.
O he’s a lost cause. I wasn’t even responding to his comments. It’s the other ones that keep on keeping on.
BTW - broad brush? lol
Freder will always stand with the commies and islamists thats golden
You are tiresome, too.
There's a handful of commenters here that like to pretend the rest of us here, the 'you people', are all dopes that don't understand much of anything.
I feel like we're missing a key element in this dynamic, every time they comment.
Bob Boyd said...
Praise be to Allah.
Translation: Your god is clearly on my side, you mullah losers.
The fact that the Mullahs are Shia and a vicious cultish sect of Islam shouldn't be lost in this.
Their most important holiday is running around cutting themselves so they can remember to be angry.
Not an acceptable modern religion.
"The Geneva conventions are a creation of European Rulers with one goal: constrain the United States.
Well, that is some revisionist bullshit. The U.S. was the main author and proponent of the 1947 protocols."
Interesting that the U.S. authored the Conventions in 1947, early in the Truman Administration. Presumably, HST wouldn't have approved the language you quoted if it amounted to a declaration that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki constituted war crimes. Hmmm. Perhaps destroying "civilian" infrastructure isn't a war crime if the same infrastructure also serves the military??
(Of course, the Iranian regime doesn't destroy civilian infrastructure so much as actual civilians.)
Freder Frederson said...
Freder will always stand with the commies and islamists thats golden
You are tiresome, too.
The truth is often tiresom.
But it bears repeating.
"There’s not a single woman commenter here who has written one tenth the stupid stuff FF, Dinky, Howard, Mark, etc has written..."
Those are the ladies I was referring to.
Ashura a rather curious day of remembrance in muharram
As with beetlejuice i dont want to point this out
@Rabel: well played
He has his finger on the button, and if the Iranians don't bend their knee and consent to be thrall to Benjamin "We will show them who is above, and who is below!" Netanyahu, don't be surprised if he uses them. You know, "tactical nukes." Not much more than a cherry bomb compared to a firecracker!
He is senile, and his filter is gone, don't be surprised if they use an autopen to sign the orders to do this.
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/report/project-esther-national-strategy-combat-antisemitism
It's the christian zionists in the White House bringing this up. Why would they name their project to combat antisemitism after a book that celebrates the genocide of Persians? Oh and preemptive attacks, and taking their stuff?
Our military is in control of a cult. Why did Kegbreah fire the highest ranking chaplain in the army, almost certainly to replace him with one of those 'Christian' zionists.
Those are the ladies I was referring to.
I bet you are bummed that Spring Break is over and you have to go back to middle school tomorrow.
@ Achilles
Not really sure what it is you think you need to straighten me out on here. Can't make it out from what you wrote.
:Perhaps destroying "civilian" infrastructure isn't a war crime if the same infrastructure also serves the military??"
Spot on. "That's a war crime" is to War what "that's racist" is to Politics.
The people who bring it up care as much about civilians as the Minnesota daycares care about children. Did you notice all the Righteous Democrats protesting in outrage at all the tax dollars meant for the poor were redirected to their NGOs? Yeah, me neither.
For someone who doesn’t care about the strait Trump sure talks about it a lot.
You're speaking a lot of words, Achilles, without saying anything.
It’s hilarious watching the “devout MAGA Christians” try to rationalize and normalize Trump’s Easter post. Must be exhausting to live such a hypocritical existence.
At least Achilles is honest about his views. You, Howard, and your lefty cohorts are not. Lots of flimsy arguments to aid in misdirection (bringing in the GC’s - I mean really?) but no real argument that advances what your real thoughts are.
Praise Allah!
The Praise Be to Allah is funny. Next he’ll call Mohammed a pedophile for marrying a 9-year-old girl.
Let us stop pretending Islam isn’t worse than Nazism.
Why is Trump thowing away the last half of his term for high gas prices?
Shortest sentence in scripture. JESUS WEPT. MAGA'S LOVE THE TRUMP MESSAGE , its to be expected,Jesus definitely glorified by this message from the senile one, right EVEN ON Easter sunday. :(
The alternative sensibility and dishonest language got us to where we must do this now to save millions of lives. That's impossible for a TDS blocked mind to even imagine. Unfortunately, it still must be done regardless of the insults of small minds and small motivations. You never even consider what is at stake beyond base politics. You will benefit immensely, but you will not feel grateful. That much is clear.
imTay said...
The Strait was open before Trump attacked Iran, and Iran's nuclear program was under an international inspection regime before Trump ripped up the agreement in his first term.
Dude, are you saying that with a straight face? Everyone knows that the "international inspection regime" was a joke. I think that the same folks were inspecting North Korea as well. I'd trust C.B. Bucknor's ball-and-strike calls more than I'd trust the "international inspection regime."
I'm not worthy of calling myself a Christian, but it seems to me that invoking Jesus on Easter when you have no respect for Christianity or him makes you a tiny undeveloped demon of weakness.
Again I say, we could achieve better and faster results for far less money if we used our air supremacy to deliver pallet loads of firearms to the Iranian people. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of them, with ammunition and simple comic-book training manuals. They'd finish off the Revolutionary Guard and the Basiji religious police in three weeks.
Civilian possession of the weapons of the common infantryman, in numbers sufficient to slaughter the minions of a tyrant to the very last man, is the most important and fundamental of all human rights. We should be air-dropping modern firearms to Englishmen and Australians too, but that's an issue for another day and another impending civil war.
"Trump ripped up the agreement in his first term."
I guess he just didn't see the promised "peace for our time", and he was obviously right again.
The Democrat multi-million dollar-think-tank strategy is for leftie candidates to talk more like that.
The likes of Swalwell and Schumer have been performatively and repetitively dropping the F-bomb in public for the past three or four years, and now they are in a pearl-clutching dither about rough language on a holiday they hold in utter contempt?
"...we could achieve better and faster results for far less money if we used our air supremacy to deliver pallet loads of firearms to the Iranian people."
I like it, and it could change the world if it worked, but I think we would still need to do what we have to weaken the regime and prevent huge casualties. The Islamists have no respect for life of their people, and they would turn missiles on their own cities.
much like the nuclear deal with korea, that was voided by the resources AQ Khan had put toward the program
imTay said...
He has his finger on the button, and if the Iranians don't bend their knee and consent to be thrall to Benjamin "We will show them who is above, and who is below!" Netanyahu, don't be surprised if he uses them. You know, "tactical nukes." Not much more than a cherry bomb compared to a firecracker!
He is senile, and his filter is gone, don't be surprised if they use an autopen to sign the orders to do this.
You are a myopic retard.
This has nothing to do with what Netanyahu wants.
Trump is fighting the globalist regime. Iran is just a battlefield in a much larger fight.
Nobody should take your stupid ramblings seriously. It is time for stupid people to be shamed until they grow up. We don't have time for idiocy anymore.
There are important things happening. Your natterings are inconsequential at best. At worst they aid the globalist regimes that want to make you a serf.
You are not on the other side like Freder. Freder is actively evil and wants to enslave. You are just an idiot but still serving evil ends.
fartwell and chuck u, not to mention the new entrant juliana stratton, are a gassy effusion
Howard said...
You're speaking a lot of words, Achilles, without saying anything.
I am just speaking a language you choose to not understand.
It is what happens when you look to the right on the curve. You can only see so far.
Tim is an idiot. Freder is an idiot. They just can't see anything past 120.
I know you can understand what I am saying. You can easily see where I am coming from. I am not even putting things in a way that require that level of understanding. You are above average even in this room.
You are choosing to not see it.
Hassayamper said...
Again I say, we could achieve better and faster results for far less money if we used our air supremacy to deliver pallet loads of firearms to the Iranian people. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of them, with ammunition and simple comic-book training manuals. They'd finish off the Revolutionary Guard and the Basiji religious police in three weeks.
Maybe. I tend to agree with you. I have generally liked the Persian people and think they would be good stewards.
But there is risk here. What if they go join the globalist regime and start working with China again to create structural imbalances that force all industrial production to SE Asia?
Most of the world would be ruled by people like the rulers in Western Europe if left to their own devices. There is a reason world history makes the United States a complete outlier and the first country to produce an actual sovereign citizenry. There is a reason that countries like Japan, Poland, Israel are the only real friends we have and that is because they were at some point liberated by the US and are/have been directly dependent on the US for their freedom.
Most people in the world are a generation or more from being capable of becoming sovereign citizens. Iran may need to be occupied for a generation like Poland and Japan first.
The only thing hard to believe is there are people who think this is hard to believe
From Ace:
Tousi TV: Second F-15 Pilot Rescued as Iranian Civilians Aid American Operation to Rescue Him
I assume he knows what he's talking about, but take it with grain of salt until we have official confirmation.
Here is a summary:
The US knew where the pilot -- the weapons officer, or WSO, apparently called a "Wizzo" in the trade -- was located due to "unique capabilities." I mean, I think he has a coded radio so I don't know why we're being all cagey about it. He was hiding in a mountain.
The CIA created a deception campaign to trick Iran into thinking he was a hundred miles away (or so) away from his real location.
Iranian Basij forces -- plainclothes soldiers/thugs -- went to the fake location and were "annihilated" by US warplanes sent to greet them. Tousi has video of Iranians coming upon the bodies and saying, "They're all dead."
The US actually created a pop-up secret base of operations deep inside of Iran, about 100 miles (again, I don't know the real distance) south of Teheran. They landed C-130s and little bird helicopters here. I guess this is where the special forces operators struck out from.
One deduction: The US always knew where he was, and told him to just remain hidden and invisible while forces were flown in to rescue him.
One minor hitch in the operation -- one (or was it both?) of the C-130s became stuck and could not take off so they had to be blown up on the ground. This always seems to happen in major special forces operations.
CNN lied and claimed Iranian civilians were flooding into the area to find the pilot on behalf of the IRGC. In fact, they were using their vehicles to jam up the highways to prevent the IRGC from sending troops into the area.
Also, Tousi reports that Trump began secretly arming Iranian civilians since January, when the first uprisings began.
So good news all around. With the civilians armed and openly aiding the US and Israel, I have renewed hopes for the end of the Islamic Occupational Army in Iran.
The accompanying video is well worth a watch.
imTey, Freder, et al: How is it none of you, even once, can bring yourselves to acknowledge the Islamic Republic's Sharia supremacism? Or what makes the regime so uniquely dangerous?
Or, better yet, how about proposing a different course of action. Please, be specific, using charts and equations where necessary.
"Ripping up Obama's Iran peace treaty first thing" is like removing a chicken-cutlet falsie from your bra. Both were expensive illusions better removed than honored as if genuine accomplishment,
I am imagining Cordelia and Bothari evading Vordarian search parties after they hid Gregor in Dendarii mountains
Another devout Easter message from evangelists's favorite Christian.
It sure beats the last president's Easter message. You know. That whole Trans Awareness Day bullshit?
dutcb boy has gotten very excitable, of late,
I liked the Donald Trump who told us he'd keep out of foreign wars more than I like this new guy.
So just how much longer are we supposed to keep kicking this can down the road? Another 47 years?
Q: from descriptions of it as Mutuals/Clubs etc the war risk underwriting pool is funded by participants in Hormutz transit trade - how much is Regime funds in the pools run out of London?
What's hard to believe is that there is still a significant number of Americans who will support him no matter how crazy it gets.
It's either support Trump and the United States or support the state-sponsored terrorists from Iran.
Thanks for letting us know where you stand.
Achilles, you generalize too much. Everyone here thought I was FOS because I observed the Iranians controlled oil flow out of Hormuz Gap. Many said it was a Lloyd's of London insurance problem, not a military one. Now Trump is whining for the Mullahs to allow tankers to pass through unmolested. At the same time you guys claim because the US is self sufficient in petrol and urea, we won't suffer because of the blockade. You're talking about globalist control and speculate that potential unspecified regime change will fix our imbalance of global trade.
that is an intriguing question, isn't it,
Bob Boyd said...
@ Achilles
Not really sure what it is you think you need to straighten me out on here. Can't make it out from what you wrote.
Not correcting.
Noting that you identified something germane to the discussion previously missed.
All of the Sunni Muslim countries want Iran dealt with more than anyone else because they know about the Shia issue. Everyone should understand that angle.
temu sgt holka is upset
thats why the uae has taken the most blows, next to israel,
Oh sweetie. I thought you would have evolved in the passing years. Could it be that this is truly your Final Form? I'm so sorry.
Nope. Freder's always been an America-hating, terrorist-sympathizing, fifth-column piece of shit.
He was that way more than 20 years ago at Right Wing News. He's still that way now.
just like a fellow I encountered a later on another blog, whose proprietor CK Macleod, bought the obama koolaid, too much German philosophy I think
Howard said...
Achilles, you generalize too much. Everyone here thought I was FOS because I observed the Iranians controlled oil flow out of Hormuz Gap. Many said it was a Lloyd's of London insurance problem, not a military one. Now Trump is whining for the Mullahs to allow tankers to pass through unmolested. At the same time you guys claim because the US is self sufficient in petrol and urea, we won't suffer because of the blockade. You're talking about globalist control and speculate that potential unspecified regime change will fix our imbalance of global trade.
You are whining again.
You mentioned the right context for the discussion. You have everything you need to figure this out.
The country of England and its people are absolutely dependent on the straight of Hormuz being open and free.
But the rulers of England insist that the Mullahs of Iran be allowed to control the straight of Hormuz. They insist that all ships traveling through the straight are insured by Lloyds of London with the implicit threat that Iran may blow their ships up at any time.
Why would the rulers of England act against what is clearly best for the people of England?
I know you see it. The core problem here isn't Iran controlling the straight of Hormuz. It is numerous governments all over the world making decisions that hurt their own people for the benefit of globalist oligarchs and their structures like Lloyds of London.
The Regime in Iran oppressed its people and used the resources of Iran to enrich themselves while supplying SE Asia with cheaper raw materials giving them a structural advantages against competition from western countries.
The Rulers of Germany are destroying the industrial base of Germany. If the Chinese CCP was running Germany it couldn't do a better job of de-industrializing Germany than the SPD has. Why do you think they are doing that?
Treating NATO partners like adversaries for years, Trump now expects those same countries to send their frigates into the Strait of Hormuz.
Germany’s Defense Minister Boris Pistorius put it most plainly: “What does Donald Trump expect a handful—or even two handfuls—of European frigates to do in the Strait of Hormuz that the most powerful navy in the history of the world cannot do on its own? This is not our war, and we did not start it.”
Answer that question. I’ll wait.
If it's true that "a handful—or even two handfuls—of European frigates" are inconsequential when compared to "the most powerful navy in the history of the world", then those NATO countries are not partners, they're dependents.
Time to relate to them as such.
“This is not our war, and we did not start it.”
Oh, it is very much your war. You are just too supine to admit it.
Little Excursion™️ said...
Treating NATO partners like adversaries for years, Trump now expects those same countries to send their frigates into the Strait of Hormuz.
Germany’s Defense Minister Boris Pistorius put it most plainly: “What does Donald Trump expect a handful—or even two handfuls—of European frigates to do in the Strait of Hormuz that the most powerful navy in the history of the world cannot do on its own? This is not our war, and we did not start it.”
Answer that question. I’ll wait.
That is easy.
We expect the Government if Germany to act in the best interests of the people of Germany and act like NATO allies.
The German rulers need to stop acting in the best interests of the globalist regime that is using Iran to impoverish the German people and drive all industrial production to SE Asia. The German Rulers need to stop helping the enemies of NATO and they need to stop helping the enemies of the German people.
That is the easiest question in the world to answer you fucking retard.
"Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 178,000 in March, and the unemployment rate changed little at 4.3 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Job gains occurred in health care, in construction, and in transportation and warehousing. Federal government employment continued to decline."
This is the endgame. More production and more non-service sector work in the US.
More primary drivers of wealth generation in the domestic economy.
Less government sector work. Less parasitic wealth stealing. Less globalist rot and bloat.
Trump is dismantling 80 years of Post World War II institutional framework aimed at eliminating national sovereignty worldwide.
its ironic because the germans and the french kickstarted both the iranian and iraqi nuclear program, some 50 years ago,
the harold robbns of finance Paul erdman, pointed this out around that time, in the Crash of 79, this was years before the fall of the Shah,
"You're speaking a lot of words, Achilles, without saying anything."
I strongly disagree. Achilles has laid out some of the multiple goals of this operation at a level beyond the surface that most people seem unable to penetrate despite it being kind of obvious to those not immediately sidetracked at the very mention of the name Trump. It's really an incredible and long overdue effort that may still fail, but if it succeeds, will be America First like never seen before. Every patriotic, self-interested, compassionate, and freedom-loving human should be praying for success. The alternative is an endless conflict-ridden struggle of global proportions that will lead to major war rather than this level of prophylactic action with relatively limited death and disruption. We ALL need this.
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