13 એપ્રિલ, 2026

"My reaction was pure confusion, sarcasm and not ill intended. Could have handled it better! Now I know what a Zaghrouta is! I welcome all cheers and yodels from here on out."


Here's how it looked and what she said at the time: 
ADDED: Notice that she says "I don't like it" when she misreads it as yodeling. Why the hostility to yodeling? But showing disrespect to Arabic culture is another matter. From the NYT article:
Fans appeared divided over Carpenter’s response on social media. One user called it “insensitive and Islamaphobic.” Another wrote: “She’s not obligated to like anything, but after receiving the information that it was part of the person’s culture, the least that is expected is respect.”
AND: Does yodeling seem... too country and somehow right wing?

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The Vault Dweller કહ્યું...

"but after receiving the information that it was part of the person’s culture, the least that is expected is respect."

More childish bullshit. The idea that everyone has to respect every culture and all their practices sounds like someone who is stuck in an 8 year old's mentality of everyone has to be nice.

The Vault Dweller કહ્યું...

"Could have handled it better!" is very Trumpian. Not the apology aspect, but the phrasing.

Saint Croix કહ્યું...
આ ટિપ્પણી લેખક દ્વારા દૂર કરવામાં આવી છે.
bagoh20 કહ્યું...

The battle call of the left is: "You can't say that!"

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

What I like about this -- aside from how hot she is -- is how honest she is about her mistake.

She's an apolitical artist, obviously. She either doesn't know about the religious and political optics, or she just doesn't care. She's being honest and straight. She has no fear of Islam (which is good, right?)

But she also has no fear of our PC culture. And she refuses to bow down to that. She is not going to pretend and abash herself and beg for leftist approval. Good for her.

Zavier Onasses કહ્યું...

"...but after receiving the information...."

That's an ill phrase; a vile phrase.

Like... brought to her by Amazon Delivery or Federal Express?

bagoh20 કહ્યું...

The point of MAGA is to preserve a culture?

NKP કહ્યું...

Islamic “”culture” has no respect for “infidels” (ALL “other” cultures). I don’t respect “Eat shit or die”. And I certainly don’t give a damn about what the NY Times opinion

Esteban કહ્યું...

I thought yodeling was Swiss or Austrian, not American country.

Zavier Onasses કહ્યું...

Oh, My Lord, Althouse. You added in the Singing Brakeman! Love that man. Yee Ha.

rehajm કહ્યું...

The moral of the story is it’s fun to shit on Sabrina Carpenter…

Mr. D કહ્યું...

Does yodeling seem... too country and somehow right wing?

Jimmie Rodgers's Blue Yodel #9 was a collaboration with Louis Armstrong, which was a very early example of "game respects game."

Aggie કહ્યું...

Jimmie Rodgers was the first thing I thought about when I saw 'yodel', and specifically, this song (but not this version, I have another).

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

The first and only time I heard that Islamic yodeling was in the movie, Jewel of the Nile. Not nearly as good as Romancing the Stone, but fun.

"Sufis rule."

In the movie, Sufis were the peace lovers of Islam.

Years later, I was at work, chatting with an Islamic lawyer. Good guy, serious, he would get on his knees and pray five times a day. Anyway, I asked him, "What do you think of Sufis?"

And he went on a passionate anti-Sufi rant. He really did not like those Sufis.

Howard કહ્યું...

Fingernails on a chalkboard sound better

john mosby કહ્યું...

Whatever her reaction was, it wasn’t islamophobic. Carpenter is well known for dry humping on stage, so anyone attending her concert can’t possibly be a strict adherent of any Muslim denomination. The clip didn’t really capture the call itself, but I am assuming it’s the ululation, which is Arab but pre-Islamic. And the ululatrix sounds like a young woman.

So you had an Anglo woman and an Arab one, both aggressively secular, arguing over the aesthetics of a completely non religious vocalization. Where in that do you find Islamophobia? CC, JSM

RCOCEAN II કહ્યું...

Here's an example of what it is. Its pretty cute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cWECV0hHs

RCOCEAN II કહ્યું...

Its just so insane in the USA and the UK. Its Ok to trash Islam and Arabs but don't you criticize Israel in any way or we'll destroy you. Or even express annoyance at "The jews". (Go talk to ye about that). Imagine if some Orthodox jew had made some noise at her concert and she had the same reaction. LOL.

RCOCEAN II કહ્યું...

Having said that, I think she was just talking off the cuff and is obviously ignorant of Arab Culture. She's apologized and that's the end of that.

n.n કહ્યું...

Yodeling is a gay call to resonance in an echo chamber.

Mary Beth કહ્યું...

I pay for a concert to hear the performer not the audience. Loud vocalization unrelated to the song? No. Loud vocalization during a quiet moment in the music? No.

She shouldn't have apologized. The woman who interrupted everyone else's concert experience should have apologized.

Peachy કહ્યું...

The left are frantically pushing adherence to pure acceptance of Radical Islam.
Radicalism loves more radicalism.

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

I am assuming it’s the ululation

that's right

which is Arab but pre-Islamic.

nice, I didn't know that

Peachy કહ્યું...

The left need the same type of power Islamic supremacist males hold over its subjects.

Hollywood pushes that hard. You shall not be Islamiophobic. - Punishment is death.

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

Hindus used to bury live women with their dead husbands

until the British stopped it

Peachy કહ્યું...

RC Cola - you trash Israel all the time. So do many on the left.
What is your point -

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

Blue Yodel 9

Peachy કહ્યું...

The left are obsessed with pushing out and down anything they consider "right wing" - which is slowly turning into smaller and smaller groups of pure acceptance:
The Islamic/ communist factor..

Peachy કહ્યું...

Coachella - ugh.
I'd rather not.

Joe Bar કહ્યું...

Islam is incompatible with Western Civilization.

n.n કહ્યું...

bury live women with their dead husbands

RAATS has evolved as RAAT with social progress in liberal culture. You've come a long way, baby.

who-knew કહ્યું...

Thanks for the Jimmie Rodgers! Great song. As for the rest of this tempest in a teapot, who cares? It will be forgotten in 15 minutes. Unless you live in Dearborn or the middle east (but I repeat myself), there is no reason to be aware of Arab culture. She should have just completely ignored the kerfuffle.

Narr કહ્યું...

Suttee was the burning of widows, not burial alive.

That said, I know ululation when I hear it, and now I also know that Sabrina Carpenter is a pop singer. And a real cutie.

n.n કહ્યું...

RC Cola - you trash Israel all the time. So do many on the left.

His heart was hardened. National Socialism is a left-wing religious ideology that embraces Diversity, suckles in redistributive change schemes, and entertains abortive ideation with transhumane pride and prejudice.

n.n કહ્યું...

The immolation of widows alive and sequestration of their carbon ashes dead. Nuptial rites.

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

thanks Narr

Enigma કહ્યું...

Ululation is an "auditory control and terrorism" move in that it demands attention above all other social sounds. I always hear it as sustainable and monotonous screaming but without throat damage.

Yodeling attempts to make controlled and melodic music with similar vocal/throat movements. Also consider Asian throat singing and African click languages -- unconventional stuff is possible.

In all cases, is the sound appropriate for the venue or does it interrupt the performer? De facto heckling? De facto selfish attention? Functional stage diving without moving from a seat?

Peachy કહ્યું...
આ ટિપ્પણી લેખક દ્વારા દૂર કરવામાં આવી છે.
Temujin કહ્યું...

Islamophobic? People tend to think all Arabs are Muslim. They are not.
I wonder about people who have never heard that sound. But then, I wonder why I have.

n.n કહ્યું...

Yodeling happens in rocky mountains, over sandy dunes. Rapping happens around the fire amidst pride parades, mostly on the plains.

Known Unknown કહ્યું...

Sabrina is a gay man's idea of sexy.

Mr. T. કહ્યું...

Considering the current pandemic of rape/murder/hate/grooming/terrorism being comitting by the islamist death cultists, being islamistphobic seems quite a reasonable position to take.

rehajm કહ્યું...

Coachella - ugh.

Yah, that's the real problem right there...

Mason G કહ્યું...

"but after receiving the information that it was part of the person’s culture, the least that is expected is respect.”

Female genital mutilation is a cultural thing. How much respect is expected there?

John henry કહ્યું...

Looking at the video RCO posted of women doing this, I don't think it really sounds like a yodel. It is a bunch of women sticking their tongues out and flapping them around.

I've seen it often enough before in movies and news. It is usually, we are told, an outcry of "Death to the great Satan" or some such. I've never seen it, that I know of, used in a celebratory or joyful manner.

OTOH, if the women were not shouting "death to the great satan" but "We love Justin Bieber" I would have no way of knowing the difference.

John Henry

John henry કહ્યું...

The yodelingest girl Bob Wills knows: Carolina Cotten sings Yodel Mountain with Bob and the Playboys

https://youtu.be/cjxXe_H5N7M?si=VpeteHHuv1at1w7X

Puts Jimmy Rogers in the shade.

John Henry

loudogblog કહ્યું...

"Why the hostility to yodeling"

Slim Whitman

Laslo Spatula કહ્યું...

"The moral of the story is it’s fun to shit on Sabrina Carpenter…"

That can't be fun for her.

Especially if you just ate at Taco Bell.

I am Laslo.

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

I think she was genuinely afraid but tried to keep it lighthearted by pretending she didn't know what she was hearing. Look at her face. Look how she's trapped in an enclosed alcove. I think she feared violence but was afraid to say it, lest she be called Islamophobic... but she was called Islamophobic anyway.

Lazarus કહ્યું...

Nobody's thinking of Jimmy Rodgers or Gene Autry or Slim Whitman. Yodeling is too associated with Austria, which is too associated with "The Sound of Music," and everybody was white in the movie.

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

From Wikipedia: "Carpenter was homeschooled.... She began studying voice at the age of six. Around the age of ten, she began posting videos on YouTube of herself singing Christina Aguilera and Adele songs. Her father built a recording studio for her to fuel her passion for music...."

The enclosed space with the little keyboard feels like a teenager living a sheltered life and learning music at home.

She's 26 now. Imagine how she feels. She's very successful, but she is vulnerable. Again, look at her face as she hears that triumphant cry in the audience. Did she fear attack?

Dagwood કહ્યું...

From Lawrence of Arabia - begins around the 2:00 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G5-xFMrClE

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

"Nobody's thinking of Jimmy Rodgers or Gene Autry or Slim Whitman. Yodeling is too associated with Austria, which is too associated with "The Sound of Music"...."

I think people with more of a country music background feel differently. Not everyone is grounded in "The Sound of Music." I didn't even know SOM had yodeling in it. Never seen the thing.

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

Oh, wait. I know "Lonely Goatherd." Ugh!

Narr કહ્યું...

Most Americans of a certain age probably first encountered ululation early in the movie "Patton."

Narr કહ્યું...

'I know "Lonely Goatherd." Ugh!'

I kinda like Laibach's version.

narciso કહ્યું...

In the north african campaign around constantine

Peachy કહ્યું...

stop it. I love the Sound of Music.

chickelit કહ્યું...

Yodeling in rock: Hocus Pocus. The Vandals did a good cover of this in the 80's.

rehajm કહ્યું...

The Lonely Goatherd from SOM has some lovely yodeling. I associate yodeling with the Cliffhanger game on The Price is Right..

rehajm કહ્યું...

I just discovered I’m quite uncomfortable discussing The Lonely Goatherd in a post about cultural insensitivity to the middle east…is that culturally insensitive?

Eva Marie કહ્યું...

I think she thought the yodeling was sarcastic - “What a hick!”

JAORE કહ્યું...

A great number of celebrities are dopes.
She said a dopey thing.
How likely is it that she meant to disrespect Islam?
Quit getting your panties/boxers in a bunch over every utterance by a dope.

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

"I think she thought the yodeling was sarcastic - “What a hick!”"

That might be, if she really did hear it as yodeling.

boatbuilder કહ્યું...

It's her music, and some nutcase is yodeling in the middle of it.

Who gives a shit whether it's your "culture." Stop it.

If some guy in liederhosen showed up and started actually yodeling during her performance, nobody would be offended if she told him to knock it off. And nobody would accept "it's my culture" as a reason to find it acceptable.

JAORE કહ્યું...

rehajm just made me guffaw... fa....fa, la,la,la,la.

boatbuilder કહ્યું...

And now I've got "Una Paloma Blanca" stuck in my head.

Howard કહ્યું...

Yokels Yodel

William કહ્યું...

I've never listened to any of her music, but she certainly looks harmonic.........I think you should refrain from shouting fire in a crowded theater. I don't recommend shouting Allah akhbar or doing that Zaghrouta thing either. The Manchester massacre at an Ariana Grande concert happened in 2017 and had an impressive body count. Our relations with the Muslim world were much less tense back then.

Wilbur કહ્યું...

Any post that links to Jimmie Rodgers is A-OK with Wilbur.

narciso કહ્યું...

Not to mention that taylor swift concert in vienna

narciso કહ્યું...

That was cancelled because a chechen was gonna bomb it

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

The great Islamic poet Rumi was a Sufi.

"When we are dead, seek not our tomb in the earth, but find it in the hearts of men."

Rumi died on December 17, 1273 in Konya. His death was mourned by the diverse community of Konya, with local Christians and Jews joining the crowd that converged to bid farewell as his body was carried through the city.

RIP, Rumi, and God bless

Christopher B કહ્યું...

I'm betting it was more likely her thought process went something like "hear weird vocalization" > "funny word for vocalization" > YODEL!

And of course since it was actually Muzzie-adjacent, everybody's knickers get twisted.

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

Sabrina is a gay man's idea of sexy.

Are you speaking for gay men? Because straight men like her too.

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

I don't know her music. I just saw her for the first time today. But she's very hot in this interview.

Her damn album cover is like a homage to Smell the Glove. If that's intentional, she is way cool.

narciso કહ્યું...

Definitely haram

narciso કહ્યું...
આ ટિપ્પણી લેખક દ્વારા દૂર કરવામાં આવી છે.
Leland કહ્યું...

I'm with Mary Beth on this one. She looked to be concentrating and the commotion of sound with a language she likely doesn't understand took her out of preparation for her next song. I think she wanted it to stop, so she could focus on her performance.
Having worked years ushering professional musicals while in HS; we were always on the lookout to prevent disruption for the actors on stage and the audience. We didn't want people making noises, flashing lights, exiting out a door that might let in light. I get that Coachella is more of an outdoor, anything goes event, but I suspect the performer still doesn't like being disrupted.

Iman કહ્યું...

“Stop the yodeling!”

—— Larry O’Donnell

narciso કહ્યું...

That never gets old

Iman કહ્યું...

If Rumi was a Sufi, I’m a son of a gun
Well dang me, dang me
They oughta take a rope
And hang me
High from teh highest crane
Stop dat yodeling, sounds insane
Doop doop doop doop doop
Doo doo doo doo

Matt કહ્યું...

It’s not our culture. And no, there is no requirement that it automatically has to be respected just because it’s “culture”. If they are so offended, they can GTFO.

Narr કહ્યું...

Somebody dub in a loud redneck "AAAYYOO! BOOGIE!"

Iman કહ્યું...

It's just some ululation across the nation
A chance for folks to meet
There'll be raping, killing and if you’re willing
Mincing in the street
(mincing in the street)
Dearborn Michigan now (mincing in the street)
Can't forget the Motor City (mincing in the street)

Jersey Fled કહ્યું...

I understand beheading Jews is part of someone’s culture.

Sorry. Did I offend someone?

RCOCEAN II કહ્યું...

I remember that scene from Patton. Didnt understand at the time that I was being subtly propagandized to dislike arabs.

This is made clear when we see the Arabs scavenging on the Kasserine Pass battlefield. "They stip our dead before we even have time to bury them" says the GI escort to Omar Bradley. Then the GI fires his Thompson in the air, and the primitive Arabs scurry off with their Donkeys.

That we're using their country as a battlefied is never mentioned nor does any Tunisian Arab speak. The King Morroco is also made to appear ridiculous.

Mason G કહ્યું...

This "All cultures are equal and deserving of respect" bullshit is just that... bullshit.

Char Char Binks, Esq. કહ્યું...

Sabrina obviously didn't know what those strange sounds were, or what they could mean. She settled on “yodeling” as the closest word she knew for such vocalization, and said the word in a questioning upspeak

Anyway, it’s racist to disparage Arabic culture, but it’s A-okay to shit on Alpine or Appalachian culture

Lazarus કહ્યું...

Child stars have trouble in adult life -- especially child stars from the Disney Channel. She's had an immense amount of work done on her since those days, and not for the better. With a lot of luck and effort, she may not end up like Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan, but it wouldn't be a surprise if she went down that path.

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