Trump at Truth Social, an hour ago:
Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
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Gus says, 'We'll see'.
The Left: "What? We were promised war crimes!"
Headline: Trump Overpromises, Underdelivers…
An earth shattering kaboom
I'm glad. But I also suspect that Iran doesn't want the war to end. We'll see if the strait remains open. God bless, I hope it works out.
Have to stay with the bugs reference
Yeah Ok, whatever. Given that Trump lied about negotiating with Iran before and has killed the Iranian negotiators, I doubt any "ceasefire" will lead to peace until the ink is dried on the agreeement.
This could be true. Or it could be just more fakery until Trump gets more troops to the Persian Gulf.
Sounds good. Let’s see if Iran holds up their end.
Color me skeptical.
Praise Allah!
(But sounds like bullshit.)
It's a bad sign that the people who want peace in Iran are unwilling to identify themselves.
If the oil starts flowing thru the strait that's a good sign.
The left won't be happy if that happens.
We'll see what the sharif umbrella entails
Hope for the best but expect the worst. Worst being that Iran's "leaders" are lying again to buy time to replenish whatever weapons they can to accomplish their nefarious deeds.
If the strait opens, Trump has won. If the strait remains closed, hellfire can still be rained down on the mullahs but we will just be back to where we were today asking if Trump would follow through (I think he would).
The main issue as I see it is whether or not the negotiators for Iran are even in a position to tell the IRGC and the mullahs to open the strait. I think the odds greatly favor it remaining closed for most ships so I expect the bombings to start up again very soon.
🚨THE TACO IS ON 🚨TACO TUESDAY 🌮
I don't believe Iran agreed to anything other than to have Trump stop bombing them.
1. Oh, look.
2. Iran gets a vote
Munir is really the kingmaker the hand behind sharif
"It's a bad sign that the people who want peace in Iran are unwilling to identify themselves."
That's because Israel/Trump have assassinated them. Lots of people in the Iranian leadership were "moderates" willing to negotiate and they got murdered.
Assuming that Iran doesn't agree to anything in the next two weeks, and I am not predicting this will happen I do mean assuming for the purposes of a hypothetical, how could the US have political cache to start hostilities again and presumably lead to the Strait of Hormuz being closed again?
My wager is IRAN not opening the strait, What Iran has not done
Iran has not issued a formal public statement saying “we accept the ceasefire.”they have not yet confirmed they will open the Strait of Hormuz — the key condition.
So the ceasefire is announced by the U.S., supported by Pakistan, and under review by Iran, but not yet formally signed off by Tehran. And 2 weeks seize fire, before an agreement by IRAN. So Iran will now become good citizens and no longer a terrorist state, open the strait and want no reparations? This would be a good outcome if believeable,the markets will be excited, and hopefully no more Vets die for trumps war. How about a signed agreement 1st ,and then the TACO turnback seems to have solidity. So far thats 3 days, 5 days ,10 days and now 14more days, easy to be skeptical with two of the worlds major liars. God is still in charge I'll lay my marbles there, Pakistan is not Iran and how about BIBI the reason this whole thing got started. And BIBI SAYS??
If they break the truth the game is back on
BG said...
Hope for the best but expect the worst.
Amen.
We'll see if there is an increase in traffic through the Strait, and we'll see if any ships come under attack. I bet the movement of supplies, arms and troops continues on pace, while we're seeing.
Trump is looking around now and realizing the truth of that old poker line: “If you don’t know who the patsy is at the table, you’re the patsy.” Right now, he’s the patsy.
Trump’s staring at his cards, and none of them look like good plays. He’s sitting there realizing he got taken advantage of.He overreacted. Instead of sticking with the February 27th and 28th negotiations, he went all-in on the Netanyahu strategy. Now Trump finds himself in a very complicated situation.
It turns out the 2008–2010 version of Donald Trump, the 2015 version, and even Charlie Kirk—who famously warned last year at this time, “Don’t do it. They’re going to push you into this, and it’s going to be a disaster for us"
It turns out those versions of Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk were actually right. I know Trump is unpredictable, and you can’t send out Easter tweets like that without knowing he’s not entirely stable. But there are still kernels of self-preservation in him. He can’t bomb his way out of this one.
The best advice someone could give him right now is simple: slow down, wait this out, and buy some time. As his advisors have said all along, he needs to stop issuing these ultimatums. They only draw red lines that make it harder for him to walk anything back.
He should continue the current campaign while pushing hard for a diplomatic solution. Because the only way to resolve the uranium issue—and the only way to get the strait open—is through negotiation. He cannot bomb his way to getting that uranium back, and he cannot bomb the strait open right now.
TACO
There seems to be great disappointment around here that Iran is unable to deliver Death to America, right in Trump's face.
Theyre upset theres no kaboom
Hope for the best
Expect the worst
We drink champagne
They fuck goats first
No way of knowing
Which way it’s going
Hope for the best
Expect the worst
"That's because Israel/Trump have assassinated them. Lots of people in the Iranian leadership were "moderates" willing to negotiate and they got murdered."
Trump has revealed that: “Most of the people we had in mind are dead.”
Even Joseph Heller couldn't have conceived a character as awful and absurd as Trump when writing Catch-22.
1) Trump was bluffing about the attack to get Iran to the table.
2) Trump was not bluffing.
3) Iran thought Trump was bluffing.
4) At the 11th hour Iran realized Trump wasn't bluffing.
5) Both Trump and Iran are stalling for time.
6) . . .
The swine Fredo prays for America’s defeat.
Another master stroke of international diplomacy by President Trump! Bravo! God bless our troops.
Catch-22 was about every organization, not the military; and nobody is particularly awful. Just normal under organizational incentives.
Freder Frederson said...
“TACO”
Translation: Death to America
Tiny Elvis® is beside himself with unrequited schadenminichub.
And heller traduced his successful tour to make a point
Interesting - Althouse scoops both Ace and Insty
"Lots of people in the Iranian leadership were "moderates" willing to negotiate and they got murdered."
I've been hearing about the Iranian "moderates" for decades. I don't believe they exist. At the least, they hold no power.
He suggested the army airforce would bomb irrelevant targets
Translation: Death to America
Well, we finally agree on something. Trump is going to kill America.
saying that we killed the moderates is fucking insane. you mean the same moderates who killed tens of thousands of their own people?? yeah, those ones. Jew hate like trump hate, turns your already feeble intellect to jello. nice job
Nice to see so many rooting for a murderous regime in Iran that would kill you in an instant. but then the left has never been known for brains or common sense.
"This could be true. Or it could be just more fakery until-"
Pretty much. Trump is making systemic changes to America and the global status quo. We could wake up tomorrow with Iran as our ally.
The only analysis I've found effective in predicting Trump is to never take anything he says at face value LOL
You know, it would be nice - if just once - the left could shut its collective mouth and just wait to see how things turn out.
Would it kill you to do that? Just once?
No they cant they self flagellate
TACO - Freder
I think you'd be happy he's not committing war crimes.
But, no. You're a dishonest piece of shit who hopes for the worst if it involves the United States being on the receiving end.
"Well, we finally agree on something. Trump is going to kill America."
Ironically, Iran would have set off nukes in high population density, ie Blue City States like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Chicago, Baltimore, Minneapolis, DC.
Taco tuesday
TACO! Except it's not.
TACO is just leftist excitement in their support of Islamic supremacists and their cruelty.
The smell of victory.
I was only six days off.
The war will be over when bibi says it's over
He got trump's balls in a vice grip and it's tightening daily
USA Usa usa Israel 🇮🇱
"You know, it would be nice - if just once - the left could..."
Despite my betrayal at the hands of people I risked my life defending, I find the Right to be mostly decent. Jim here still appears to hold on to some hope that our Left can not only be saved, but is worth saving. Maybe that makes people like him fools, but its the right kind of fool.
Lol war is not over begs
You can't collect
Dinky Dao:
Buy oil at the open.
This is welcome news, but we have to see what happens next. If the Strait of Hormuz opens, we won, and it's not a TACO victory. I wouldn't bet my life, fortune, and civilization that Trump is not bluffing, and I would think neither does a significant portion of the nut cases in Iran........I think the Ancient Regime in Iran will become increasingly brittle if there's is any kind of peace in place for any extended period of time.. I would think that there most be some people with influence in Iran, who look to those super modern skylines in other gulf states and think why not us.
Has there ever been a more surreal mass hallucination on one side of the American political spectrum than the "TACO" meme?
The best presidents in my lifetime (Reagan, Nixon, and grudgingly, Clinton) take two steps forwards, one step back, winning some ground with a little political compromise.
The shitty ones take one step forwards, two steps back, like old Bush pissing away our victory in the first Gulf war, or turn tail and never go forwards at all (Jimmy Carter, that heap of shit, and the senile Biden scumbag).
Trump goes 100 steps forward, 10 back. He black-bags a Communist dictator that has been a thorn in our side and an oppressor of his people for a couple of decades. He decimates entire Federal agencies that have turned into propaganda mills and money laundries for the Democrats. He jacks tariffs up to levels not seen for a hundred years, which onshores massive manufacturing investments including a huge chunk of the Taiwanese semiconductor industry. He destroys one of the three or four most wicked and oppressive governments on the planet in a month -- one that has killed thousands of Americans over the years -- after every president since Carter kicked the can down the road. And a dozen other bold actions that no other President in this milquetoast age would even dream of taking. Then the likes of Rich and Freder dance around like demented second graders taunting "TACO! TACO! TACO!"
They are living in a dream world.
Alexisa, they still could.
Has anything happened to the nuclear material that in February was claimed to be weeks away from a bomb?
If that had been achieved we would already have declared victory. So here we remain with the same worry of a dirty bomb.
Assuming you're an intelligent person, and not some Yeehaw 'murican just wanting to blow up stuff and thinking we're masters of the world, you need to answer this question. Why should Iran open up the strait and agree to a temporary ceasefire? What's in it for them?
Hasn't Trump already said the goal is regime change? Whats to stop Trump and Israel from "reloading" and bombing Iran again and once again demanding "regime change"?
From an Iranian POV, only a permenant ceasefire with ironclad guantees of no more attacks makes sense. If Trump can make a deal on that basis fine. But if not, the straits will remain closed, and there's little we can do about it.
That's because Israel/Trump have assassinated them. Lots of people in the Iranian leadership were "moderates" willing to negotiate and they got murdered
The Admiral Byng treatment. Pour encourager les autres.
IRC, 20 percent of the worlds oil/LNG and 30 percent of the fertiziler (sic) comes through the gulf. We are
going to have massive inflation and economic dislocation in three-six months if we dont get this resolved. Europe/Asia will suffer before we do, but the USA wont be immune. Global economy.
The resident left says we should look to previous examples in Iraq, Libya, and Syria and draw the proper lessons. Just so. Maybe the IRGC leadership pro tem are looking to the past examples of Saddam, Qaddafi, and Assad and drawing the appropriate lesson.....We'll see how it goes, but maybe this will work out......I ask the resident libs here: were the hundreds, perhaps thousands of political prisoners released in Venezuela and Cuba worth the "kidnapping" of Maduro? Just curious?
I once had that kind of faith in humanity but it was taken from me. I have a darkness, the acts of vengeance that it suggests scares me. I guess I'm not yet a monster. But what really terrifies me is that, day after day, it scares me less and less.
Our intelligence indicates that Iran is assembling nuclear bombs in hospitals, schools, and residential apartments. I hope this information is helpful to President Trump ~ Benjamin Netanyahu
I think you'd be happy he's not committing war crimes.
Well, I am. You, on the other hand, wish he was committing war crimes. A few hours ago you were all cheering the idea of Trump destroying Iran's infrastructure.
He blew up suleimani fordow the ayatollah (that was a joint op,
They cant take thd win
"So here we remain with the same worry of a dirty bomb."
Well put. We are in the "if you shoot at the King" dilemma. We cannot unclench from Iran until we have control of all its enriched Uranium and a non-UN inspection regime to ensure they don't start back up. Grok and I spitballed and unfortunately the only solutions we came up with were
1) total annihilation (which Grok abhors)
2) regime change with puppet government
If the Strait of Hormuz opens, we won
Really?! The Strait of Hormuz was open until Trump started this stupid war. How is that a win? He didn't even think that Iran would close the Strait.
What a fucking moron (both you and Trump).
Interesting - Althouse scoops both Ace and Insty
But not X. Fast, though.
"The only analysis I've found effective in predicting Trump is to never take anything he says at face value LOL"
Nevertrumpers and the left prefer to take everything in such a way that it allows them to maximize their Trump hate.
Because- you know... they're such good, caring people.
I lost my wager, I saw writing saying IRAN agrees to a 2week seize fire. Ok that's a beginning, thank you Lord for the guidance on parts of both sides and the sparing of lives SO FAR....
"...few hours ago you were all cheering the idea of Trump destroying Iran's infrastructure."
I find it reprehensible that you claim to care about war crime but haven't done the due diligence to accurately define war crimes. You don't give a rats ass about infrastructure or innocent lives, you would desecrate their corpse if you could use it as a prop to score cheap shots at Trump. It's disgraceful.
"War crimes" is to War what "that's racist!" is to Politics.
Iran knows how much power they have to control the global economy. They ain’t gonna give that up unless they get a shitload in return.
The whole peanut gallery is here,
What's the problem? Iran has Just Stopped Oil. I thought that's what our bien pensants wanted.
Whats to stop China, Russia, Pakistan, India, or North Korea from giving Iran a 'dirty bomb' that will fit in a suitcase. In fact, every country with nuclear energy has the ability to build a "dirty bomb". Its just enriched uranium.
Its astounding that AIPAC, neo-cons, and the Christian Zionist warmongers are still pushing the bogeyman of "WMDs", as if nobody remembers Iraq 2003. And here's another trip down memory lane, remember Khaddaffi? He agreed not to develop nuclear weapons, and he ended up getting raped to death, while Hillary clinton laughed and giggled.
You think the Iranians dont remember that?
Trump's post did accomplish one thing, oil futures went down 16 percent. Anyway, if someone really thinks we're going to open the straits, you can make a fortune by shorting oil futures.
Iran has everything it needs to build a dirty bomb except the moral depravity. That's Israel's specialty.
Instead of rising up against their government, you know, in order to give us control of their country, they lined up on the bridges and circled their power plants...
Go figure.
"War crimes" is to War what "that's racist!" is to Politics.
The concept had its roots in medieval Europe. It is blatant colonialism.
Fredo calls Trump a “war criminal” and then, on a dime, mocks him for not bombing. It’s almost like you don’t actually give a damn about the Iranian people, FF.
You’ve got your “war criminal” sign if he bombs, and your “chicken” sign if he doesn’t bomb. You’re an embarrassment to pacifism. At least wait 24 hours before you start the hypocritical taunting.
Why aren’t you happy now? Why aren’t you relieved? Answer: you feel nothing for the people of Iran. To paraphrase REM, Iran is a simple prop to occupy your time.
Any terrorist group in the world can make a dirty bomb not only radiological but poison gas or biological. We fight that threat by our democrat caused unfunded homeland security agencies. You don’t need 200 kg of heu for that. To conflate Iran’s nuclear program and dirty bombs is incomplete. The risk is orthogonal to the program.
Now we know the power of our activist universities. The battle was not on the quad or the news room, but over Iran.
"We fight that threat by our democrat caused unfunded homeland security agencies."
And by not allowing illegal entry into the country. Oops...
Iran: What if Trump is crazier than us?
If Iran did attack the US with a dirty bomb they would have to attack Kentucky or Texas or they would be killing their own supporters. NYC is the historical favorite target.
One way to deal with crazy is to make the crazy side believe you are crazier. It might just be crazy enough to work.
Put it another way. Let's do the opposite of whatever we did before.
The arsonist puts out the fire he started—and now wants credit for extinguishing it.
Fredo is watching Nick Fuentes for tips on how to insult Trump. TACO! The anti-Trump left and the anti-Trump right unite in a racist and anti-Semitic circle jerk.
Iran killed at least 7,000 people to suppress dissent. The number is probably higher, but that's the low ball estimate. Trump's bombs--according to Iran--have killed 1700 civilians. Help me with the math: who's the greater war criminal: the IRGC or Trump........If---and I admit that's a capital letter IF--if Iran lets oil flow through the Strait, I can't see how that's anything but a win for us and a defeat for Iran......If, by way of analogy, China had launched a sudden strike that killed most of the leadership in Washington and launched a bombing campaign that destroyed our air defenses, navy and air force, would you count it as a victory if the US retained nominal control of the Panama Canal?
"It is blatant colonialism."
Huh? I don't follow.
BTW how come only white colonialism is bad? What was Out Of Africa? Or the Asian tribes that crossed the Bering Strait? The Mongol Horde? Comanche Empire? Iroquois Confederacy?
Whining about colonialism smells like Sore Loserman
Once again, our resident lefties and anti-semite completely embarrass themselves with their hatred.
Sad, fu@@ed up people.
Wow.
"Iran killed at least 7,000 people to suppress dissent."
The left doesn't have a problem with what Iran did. It's what they'd like to do here.
Think "Unthinkable" (2010) : "In this psychological thriller, Samuel L Jackson plays Henry Harold "H" Humphries, a mysterious, hardened black-ops interrogator."
H: "It's not about the enemy. It's about us. Our weakness. We're on the losing side, Helen. We're afraid, they're not. We doubt, they believe.
Agent Helen Brody: We have values.
H: And our values have cost us how many lives? It's not about that guy out there. He's not the problem. You are.
We (USA) are the problem because we wont be like them, and they wont co-exist with us, not being like them. Why else would they want the bomb?
There’s no indication that Iran has agreed to anything, other than Trump’s word. And, at this point I’ve lost count of how many times and how many ways Trump has lied about the war, Iran, and negotiations.
The alternative (letting Iran be Iran) is unthinkable. Iran gets the bomb and in no time, everybody who wants it, gets it. I don't know why this is so inconceivable to otherwise rational people here.
Tiny e® is holding on for dear relevancy. Ain’t happening.
"the bogeyman of WMDs"
Oh thank God, I thought I was the dumbest person in the room.
To review: Saddam Hussein CONFESSED to the UN that he had WMDs. He was supposed to BRING THEM to the weapons inspectors. Instead, they allowed him to send them on an Easter egg hunt. He was lying in order to terrorize other nations in the region.
So your position is to trust the Ayatollah's word because Saddam Hussein lied to you.
Tiny e® is fucked AF.
"...There’s no indication that Iran has agreed to anything.......
'Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi confirmed Tehran's acceptance and said Iran would allow "safe passage" of the Strait of Hormuz during those two weeks "via coordination with Iran's armed forces."...."
I guess that makes you wrong yet again, eh Rich?
Right now according to Gemini AI:
Yes, as of April 7, 2026, Iran has agreed to a two-week conditional reopening of the Strait of Hormuz and a ceasefire, following intense diplomatic pressure and a deadline set by U.S. President Donald Trump. Iran stated that safe passage will be allowed for two weeks if vessels coordinate with Iranian armed forces.
NBC News
NBC News
+4
Key details of the agreement include:
Temporary Reopening: Iran agreed to open the waterway for a two-week period while both sides negotiate an end to the conflict.
Conditional Passage: Iran's foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, noted that safe passage is contingent on coordination with Iran's armed forces.
Ceasefire: The U.S. has agreed to suspend bombing campaigns against Iran for two weeks to allow for negotiations.
Diplomatic Deal: The agreement was reached following mediation by Pakistan, as reported in.
So yay I'm the 2nd dumbest person in the room.
Don't I get a set of steak knives or something?
This is great news! You don't have to like Trump or agree with him starting the war to be happy about this.
The concept of War crimes - a way of ensuring wars are never won.
Something for everybody. Trump gets to say the strait of our moose is open and the ayatollahs get to say that they have not yet surrendered and the world gets some economic relief
(Gemini)Yes, oil prices plunged by over 15% to below $94 per barrel following the announcement of a potential ceasefire and the expected reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. This sharp drop followed a rapid rise to nearly $117 per barrel earlier on April 7, 2026, due to tensions in the region.
“wherein”?
If they could only find an Iranian Pinochet who will take them from fascism to Chilean style democracy in 10 years.
"And, at this point I’ve lost count of how many times and how many ways Trump has lied about the war, Iran, and negotiations."
Trump not telling you what is really going on is not lying.
I'm remembering Trump stint in Wrestling Show Business.
What the audience at home and at the show believed and didn't believe didn't matter, because the selling point was to command attention.
When the stakes are for real, Command Attention and hope that everybody remember to play their part. And if this post is true, Iran neighbors in command are remembering what to do.
The alternative is Unthinkable. We are not sending troops to Iran (please God let that be true).
Howard: "mediation by Pakistan"
Ah mon ami, the little gray cells. They hunger.
I would ask Grok for more morsels but I'm in Twitter jail for defending the women who were literally raped to death by Iran's proxy, Hamas.
8:05 Insty finally catches up.
Probably looking over that ethics complaint I filed with the University
8:02 Ace comes in
I hope to God oil plunges down to $80 dollars/barrel, because I will go long. Iran has agreed to a ceasefire, but anyone who thinks Trump or israel can be trusted isn't playing with a full deck.
Weird how every time we get a Iranian/Israel thread these "who is that?" types show up. Sock puppets?
“The Dems want the US to lose the war so that they can win the midterms.” VDH
FACT.
Is Pakistan going to get a piece of the action that flows through the strait? I mean we kind of sort of have to trust them with all the nukes they have.
It's still the Potomac two-step. The bottom line is I'm staying in in Alfred E. Newman mode.
Howard, Pakistan's Baluchistan rebels are supplied via Iran and the Northern Areas are full of Shia - nevermind they buy Iranian oil.
There is plenty of clear self interest for them to want this over.
Cynical Publius
@CynicalPublius
Earlier today Ro Khanna was claiming that Trump is a genocidal maniac akin to Hitler.
Now he is claiming that Trump is a cheese eating surrender monkey akin to France.
How do Democrats reconcile such irreconcilable thoughts inside their heads? There are only two possible explanations:
1. They have zero qualms about lying.
2. They have fully abandoned logic and reason in favor of emotion.
Sometimes I feel like Spock gawking at Doctor McCoy.
Sums it up nicely.
A day ago Billy Crystal said if Trump bombs.. it's a war crime... and now today he says, "Trump TACOs again." And that, folks, is how liberals think. They don't care what happens... Orange man is bad no matter what.
@Howard (8:53), next to you Alfred E. Newman was a genius.
It's interesting Alexisa, I'm finally figuring out that my lack of anxiety and depression is a sign of sociopathy. It's a crazy upside down world and I've gotten my dick stomped in the dirt dozens and dozens of times I should be anxious and depressed. The funny thing is I have lots of empathy but almost zero sympathy. I think Faith is overrated. I would say I'm not confident in humanity. The universe remains our master and servant
That's probably the best compliment I've ever gotten, big. Mike
Sympathy for strangers. Empathy for loved ones.
@Howard: "...If they could only find an Iranian Pinochet who will take them from fascism to Chilean style democracy in 10 years...."
InShahllah.
"How do Democrats reconcile such irreconcilable thoughts inside their heads?"
No need to reconcile, they don't keep thoughts in their heads. As soon as it's expressed, it's discarded, to be replaced by The Current Thing (they'll get a memo to let them know what it is). Which will, in it's turn, be abandoned for The Next Current Thing.
"I'm finally figuring out that my lack of anxiety and depression is a sign of sociopathy"
I'm not very religious, but something I think about that may bring you some peace (or less, depending on your perspective) - God is harsher with us because we've made it to the next level, what may appear as cruelty is merely more suffering to enhance our growth because He knows we can take it. So hang there. Aslan is on the move.
"How do Democrats reconcile such irreconcilable thoughts inside their heads?"
Liberalism is a philosophy of divergence.
Progressivism is a philosophy of monotonic change.
The principle of political congruence ("=")... when they can get away with it.
The secular Pro-Choice ethical religion. Let us bray.
Hah. Powerline joins the show with THIRTEEN replies. They moved to a "pay to comment" model, a common mistake by egotistical bloggers who think they are the only draw. The result is a diminishing audience. Such hubris. Why would you expect people to read your drek when you have such contempt for theirs.
Thus concludes the Persian Spring at the tail-end of Obama's Iran-Hamas Affair. The Middle East united under the Abraham Accord and Persians liberated. Goid luck!
Huh? I don't follow.
True statement.
Aw Chuckie, still so insecure. I cut my teeth on you when we were still staring at Jessica Valenti's breasts.
If Iran did attack the US with a dirty bomb they would have to attack Kentucky or Texas or they would be killing their own supporters. NYC is the historical favorite target.
I once read an analysis of what would happen if our 20 largest cities were nuked and everyone in them were killed.
America would return to being 85-90 percent white and almost universally Christian. Republicans would hold a veto-proof/filibuster-proof majority in Congress and routinely win Presidential elections by 450 electoral votes. Median IQ would rise by 5 points. Median income would rise, but average income would fall. [If you don't understand how that could be, go back to the definitions of mean and median, and reflect on how there's a lot more poor people than rich people in the cities, but the rich people are REALLY rich.] The murder rate would fall to lower levels than in most of Europe.
There were a bunch more statistics along these lines that I can't recall, except to note that they were similarly striking and in many cases unexpected.
Now I'm not saying this would be a good thing, I'm just reporting the arithmetic. But I think I can point to such statistics as pretty solid proof the country would survive.
Point and laugh at Bill Kristol($D)
Howard said...
This is great news! You don't have to like Trump or agree with him starting the war to be happy about this.
Are you going to stop crying like a hysterical little girl then?
Little Excursion™️ said...
There’s no indication that Iran has agreed to anything, other than Trump’s word. And, at this point I’ve lost count of how many times and how many ways Trump has lied about the war, Iran, and negotiations.
When are you moving to Europe?
You are a piece of shit that doesn't belong in a great country like the United States.
You belong with the European losers. You are worthless and nobody likes you here.
FIFA has already declared Donald Trump the winner of the war in Iran.
Dave Rubin
@RubinReport
"One of the main symptoms of Trump Derangement Syndrome is that Trump is anything you want him to be at any time.
In the morning he’s a genocidal lunatic, by the evening he’s a cowardly pussy.
Sadly, there is no cure…"
Freder Frederson said...
Translation: Death to America
Well, we finally agree on something. Trump is going to kill America.
When do you get the fuck out of our country? You belong in Europe with the other people like you.
You do not belong in a country as great as the United States. Obama was a fucking traitor and he needs to move to Europe too.
You are evil shitheads that do not believe in the same things our country does. You deserve to live in a country that will soon be run by Muslims.
"You deserve to live in a country that will soon be run by Muslims."
Muslims wouldn't have him.
Tell me, Howard, are you the commentator I see to call “Howard the Fool,”’ or are you a different Howard (though equally a fool)?
From Glenn Reynolds, the Instapundit:
Word is that one of the targets struck today was a collection of airplanes the mullahs had set up for fleeing the country. That may have had something to do with this [acceptance of Trump’s terms].
I get why the remaining mad mullahs would want to flee the country. I don’t know where they’d flee to — maybe Afghanistan?
"I don’t know where they’d flee to — maybe Afghanistan?"
Great Britain wouldn't kick them out, probably.
I get why the remaining mad mullahs would want to flee the country. I don’t know where they’d flee to — maybe Afghanistan?
Minnesota? Washington state? California? Oregon?
Any state whose political leadership - and majority of voters - aligns with them? And considers them to be political allies?
RCOCEAN II said...
Assuming you're an intelligent person, and not some Yeehaw 'murican just wanting to blow up stuff and thinking we're masters of the world, you need to answer this question. Why should Iran open up the strait and agree to a temporary ceasefire? What's in it for them?
Not dying in a massive explosion or being hunted down and murdered in the middle of the night by Army Rangers.
Mason G said...
"You deserve to live in a country that will soon be run by Muslims."
Muslims wouldn't have him.
I know.
I don't care.
He deserves it.
Aw Chuckie, still so insecure
Little c, kiddo. You aren't retarded, you can do better.
“We are going to have massive inflation and economic dislocation in three-six months if we dont get this resolved. Europe/Asia will suffer before we do, but the USA wont be immune. Global economy.”
Yes, of course. But we would be hurt far less than anyone else. We really don’t need the Strait for anything directly. Neither do most of allies in this conflict. We and they would be hurt, maybe, from the secondary effects. Throw Russia into that category too. The rest of the First, and much of 5he Seconf, would be significantly.
We might even come out ahead, with new PNG contracts.
“I get why the remaining mad mullahs would want to flee the country. I don’t know where they’d flee to — maybe Afghanistan?”
I think that the likely answer is Russia. They apparently already have the official successor to the Ayatollah, in his son, who, last we knew, was in a comma, absent a leg, but still alive in Moscow. Russia is also good because it is relatively close, and they wouldn’t have to cross hostile territory to get there. Indeed, if we shutdown air travel by their leaders, they can still get to Russia by water.
Okay, so Iran’s political leadership has agreed to a ceasefire. Iran, of course, is a military dictatorship. And the IIRC has not agreed. Maybe they will pause for two weeks? Maybe not. But it’s a very good sign civilian leadership is trying to reassert control.
I think I spent $50 for a tank of gas the other day. Reminded me of the Biden years. The price of a barrel dropped 15% last night. Under $100 again. I would have saved $7.50. Not much of a trade-off for peace in the Middle East.
You need months and months of inflation for voters to get really mad. A few weeks of transitory inflation in March is not going to do it for the libs.
Democrats love high gas prices when it’s saving the world and funding the Green Nude Eel. But high gas prices are a disaster when we shut down a terrorist state that wants to kill us with nukes?
Democrats imagine that we have no enemies, except for the sun, which needs to be blotted out.
I start with the opposite premise than the left does. Instead of assuming that he doesn’t know what he is doing, instead, I assume that he does know what hem is doing, and bamboozled Iranian leaders into doing what he wants them to.
First, I don’t think that he wanted to destroy Iran’s infrastructure. But Iran painted themselves into a corner, by allowing the Chinese to control the Strait, by selling oil in. Chinese Yuan to the Chinese. And probably everyone else. But we know China is transshipping their Iranian oil. We know where they are doing so, and will likely use military force to keep them from doing that successfully.
So, if he didn’t want to destroy Iran’s Infrastructure, what was he up to? Well, with Trump, there’s always a deal involved. The deal he was looking for was the 2 week ceasefire. How to get there? By scaring them that he might actually destroy Iran’s infrastructure. They all knew what both sides wanted. It just had to be sold. And part of the selling was that Trump was crazy enough that he might go through with it. The rescue of the F16E WSO was fortuitously timed. Not that it was Good Friday through Easter, but that it was right before the deadline. It showcased the US military, both its power and its dedication.
I don't think that wholesale destruction was ever in the cards. Rather, I think the idea was to disable the infrastructure more creatively. Not take out the power generators, but disable the power lines. We have the technology to essentially drop iron chunks on the transmission lines, shorting them out. Requiring just the replacement of some transformers. And cutting a lot of pipelines. Or, even better, just take out pumps. High tech, effective, with low long term damage. The F15E WSO extraction showcased our military’s innovativeness and ability to perform effectively in the most complex situations. And highlighted that they couldn’t stop us.
Reading the NYT now about Iran is like reading an actual newspaper. Journalism! And good news! It’s remarkable.
This is when Democrats get mad and cancel their subscription and call the NYT “right-wing.”
Democrats are terrified that Trump (and 80% of the American people) might be right. What if he starts being right on the 50-50 stuff? Or the 40-60 stuff? Horrifying. Especially if your entire platform is anti-Trump hysteria, plus infanticide, castrating the young, assisting suicide and honky-hate. If people start liking Trump again, holy shit.
Bruce, small quibble with what you said. We’re in a fight with religious people. Religious people look for signs from God. An American fighter is shot down on Good Friday. We spend millions of dollars to rescue him on Easter Sunday.
Iranian propaganda is that we have no faith, and we love money more than God (or people). Our actions suggest that this is not true. We are a generous people, and we think a single human life is sacred. It speaks volumes to people looking for what is holy and right.
Religious people also don’t like hellfire sermons, but we do pay attention to them.
It’s a secular war. I don’t know anybody who thinks war is holy. But Iran has religious leaders who do think that. We’d like to shake that belief, by reminding them that war is hell and God likes peace. And God is on the side of peace.
Praise Allah! This seems like a much better deal for the Iranians that the one that Obama negotiated. Were the Mullah's getting 2 million a ship under Obama?
Is this the "art of the deal"? Get yourself so over your skiis that you have to accept anything to make the pain stop. The Iranians took Trump to the cleaners.
This seems like a much better deal for the Iranians that the one that Obama negotiated.
You think Iran likes the "carrot and the stick" approach more than the "secret carrots and more carrots" approach?
The Iranians took Trump to the cleaners.
You're confusing opening yap yap yap with an actual treaty that is negotiated and signed.
Amazing how the Lefties here suddenly don’t want peace.
Bruce Hayden wins the thread with his astute analysis.
They never did, Jersey.
“Bruce, small quibble with what you said. We’re in a fight with religious people. Religious people look for signs from God. An American fighter is shot down on Good Friday. We spend millions of dollars to rescue him on Easter Sunday.”
A couple of maybe quibbles. The rulers of Iran, especially the late Ayatollah, are 12er Shi’a. It’s an apocalyptic sect. They can’t see their 12th Iman or Mahdi until the end times. So, bring it on. But where are they going to get enough virgins for their jihadist martyrs? Much of the rest of Islam thinks that they are crazy. Scary crazy. And scary crazy equates to power at times. They have been milking this for years.
Big Mo talks about Christianity (and Judaism) in the Koran. So they know the Easter story. Christianity is somewhat feared by Muslims, because we were able to stop them at the Gates of Vienna, and evict them from Spain, under the flag of Christianity. We got our celestial sign from the rescue of the F16E WSO, with no US casualties, and plenty of Iranian ones. But they haven’t gotten any sign from their god. Their 12th Iman is still likely dead, 1200 years later. Their culture was on the way back to meet him, likely losing whatever electricity and clean water they still had, etc. yes, the elites with True Faith probably not shaken. But they haven’t gotten rank and file, maybe not so much.
Something else that they probably won’t admit. A lot of crazy 12er Shi’a. But Trump did his own crazy this time. They have been bullying their neighbors for decades, along with much of the rest of the world with their crazy. The difference with Trump was that he was just as crazy, but had the power to send them back 1200 years to meet their Mahdi on his terms, without paying the price in martyrs.
Finally, Trump and company got their avowed goals. They didn’t get regime change (yet), but that explicitly wasn’t one of their goals. They made explicitly clear their goals all along. The Dems just intentionally muddied them, trying ‘to destroy Trump. To see this, just go back through the libtard comments here.
“ Praise Allah! This seems like a much better deal for the Iranians that the one that Obama negotiated. Were the Mullah's getting 2 million a ship under Obama?”
What was the Obama deal? We’ll give you pallets of cash. You pinkie promise not to build nuclear weapons. Wink, wink. And we will promise not to watch you very closely, if you do? And if they’re caught, maybe apologize for getting caught, but nothing more?
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