"They greet each other with the salutation 'Christ is King'; they banter about their aspiration to re-create Agartha, a mythological Aryan kingdom supposedly situated somewhere in the earth’s core. Theirs is a would-be party of trolling, of 'discourse porn and conspiracy theories on Adderall,' as one adherent told me. But they see their movement as a gathering storm about to break over American politics. Liberals may think of the Trump era as a tragedy of democratic backsliding and authoritarian malignancy; Groypers view it as a cynical pantomime of a nationalist takeover that never went far enough. Fuentes has become the gleeful narrator of this dashed dream, building a career in part by insisting that Trump’s pledge to put America first has curdled into a lie. 'Nick said that Trump’s going to simp for Israel,' G. told me. 'He’s totally going to cozy up to the donors. He’s not going to give us mass deportations. He’s not actually going to advance any of our interests except performatively, to appease us. And, sure enough, that’s exactly what happened.'"
Writes Antonia Hitchens, in "How the Internet Fringe Infiltrated Republican Politics/Inside the battle for the post-maga G.O.P." (The New Yorker).

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Must be an election year.
Must. Keep. People. Afraid. To. Keep. Readership. Intact.
People who live in the blue bubble will believe anything you tell them about red America.
"for the post-maga G.O.P."
Weren't we just reading the other day about Newsome the groyper? Oh wait that was Newsome the manospherizen. Kinda hard to keep track of these things.
Are these the same Groypers who killed Charlie Kirk because he wasn't sufficiently radical enough?
Thought so.
Like I said in the FAFO thread, blowing right past Jane Goodall to full-on Margaret Mead
Better story. How the Lunatic Fringe Took Over the Democratic Party.
Christopher B said...Like I said in the FAFO thread, blowing right past Jane Goodall to full-on Margaret Mead
Ha. That's what I was thinking: Tell us, what do they eat? What are the mating habits of these strange creatures?
That said, I DO see a lot of this Who Can Be More Disappointed In Trump competition online.
Trump simping for Israelis? What, you mean, like bombing Iran or something? They must have him confused with McCain.
As vulgar, selfish, dishonest and evil Republican Trump is, every normal person is America knows that he is less vulgar, more honest, and less evil than anybody the Democrats have to offer. Dems hatred for Trump began when he defeated Princess Hillary, who oozed hatred for most of America.
Think back and remember the medias delight in supporting Trump as the Republican to run against Clinton. They laughed and joked and peed themselves in delight.
Slowly things began to change and Trump had them shitting their pants in fear instead of peeing in delight.
Media convinced plenty of previously normal people that Trump was the devil, and those people cannot let go of it.
Plenty of funny vids on the 'net of Trump haters being asked what specifically makes Trump a racist , or misogynist, etc. with no specific answers.
As amusing are the vids where subjects hear a quote from Obama, Clinton< Biden and are mislead into thinking Trump said it. Quote seems most terrible ever, but quick backtracking when properly attributed to the disgusting Democrat.
New Age libtard Margie Mead…
The MSM/Democrats have been trying for years to make these fringe whackos, who are maybe 0.1% of the electorate, the face of the Republican party. I don't think they can convince anyone but themselves. Meanwhile, where are the articles on how Antifa and Islamists are the new face of the Democrats. That would at least be more accurate.
Another lying propagandist. Maybe this is the end times, with announcements of many false prophets.
Oh fuck these people at The New Yorker pulling these stupid stunts. I bet they all used to diddle little kids way back when their sex organs used to work…
…yes I know some of them only have cloacas but still..
Another "there be cannibals" report from deepest, darkest Africa by an intrepid reporter.
Rod Dreher, of course, is pushing this. Why she's the daughter of chris Hitchens. No higher praise from "conservative christian" Rod.
As for Nick Fuentes, he has a small following, but it pales in comparison to Fox News or even someone like Glenn Beck (Nevertrumper/Mr. Please give me Israeli Citizenship) or even a minor league dope like Erick Erickson, y'know Mr. Neo-Con, "Lets shoot J6ers".
I guess the NYT's is no longer attacking Tucker Carlson or even MTG. Now, they've moved on to Nick Fuentes and Candance Owens. No doubt they're asking every R politician in DC to "disavow and attack". Which will be forthcoming. All the article lacks is a nostalgic look at the "Good ol' Days" when the Right was run by "decent grown-ups" like...Rush Limbaugh. LOL.
Note that the Soviet Democrat writers never focus on the real cancer.
Newsum - dems of CA and Walzian billion dollar grift.
She's Christopher Hitchens daughter. Correct me if I am wrong. Isn't this? What Achilles keeps repeating. Trump is too soft and if he fails then the Republicans are going to be taken over by the next Pinochet? Personally, I don't think these people have any real power.
"What are they gonna say when he's gone? 'Cause he dies when it dies, when it dies, he dies! What are they gonna say about him? He was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom? Bullshit, man!".
Always trying to group their perceived enemies into cells. That way they can pretend there are fights among MAGA, Groypers, MAHA, America Firsters, etc. What a tiresome game journalism has become.
Things the Liberal-MSM now considers "Far Right"
1) Overt expressions of Christianity
2) Opposition to foreign wars
3) Enforcing immigration laws
4) Support for a color blind society
5) Dislike of Censorship and support for 1A rights
6) Belief in America First - and not globalism.
Tell me, Althouse, do you actually think you are going to understand the political right from reading drivel like this? It’s like “Gorillas in the Mist” would have been if Dian Fossey had spent her time getting drunk in her cabin instead of out in the bush watching real gorillas.
Fuentes is a leftwing plant.
The nearest thing we had to authoritarian regime in the USA was the Biden administration working with a D House and D senate. FBI/DOJ trying to put political opponents in jail, show trials, Censorship, and lawfare. But oh noes, lets worry about Pinchot - American style. Laughable!
Tucker is a sell out. MTG hangs out with Code Pink now.
Candy Ass is old news/ sellout.
Fuentes is a joke... and a false flag operation.
It doesn't fit the narrative, it must be a grand conspiracy against us. You people have no idea what it's like to be an adult.
No write-p on REDDIT leftist insanity.
Bad people with no morals are easily swayed by money.
Tucker, Bill Kristol, the asshats at Mona Cherin.
Theres so much heavy lifting in that piece i got a hernia
Whats wrong with Christ is king, unlike the Old Gods
Bullshit! Frequent conservative websites. You will rarely, if ever, see mention of Fuentes or groypers. This stuff is more of the fantasy yarns spun by the leftmedia for the dim bulbs who still believe them to distract from the commie flags now openly displayed at Democrat demonstrations.
Know it all Howard has thoughts.
Hombre for the win.
Agartha sure that is happening
More of the “you people” horseshit. Howard the Coward is full of shit on general principles and the severe lack of forest/trees visual acuity.
Howard: “It doesn't fit the narrative….” Just curious, Howie, what do you think our narrative is? We think yours is: open borders, men are women, mutilate confused children, “No Kings”, higher taxes, bigger government, release criminals, elect grifters, “Trump is Satan”, etc. You know, adult stuff. Help us see the light.
Some of her other offerings are equally half baked
Seek out the fraction of a percentage groups like (actual, not Cosplay) Trans, Goypers, Stop Oil Now, KKK members, Antifa and ....).
Now tell me which of these has helped and which of these has hurt America in your opinion and state why.
Aktually
Sean Davis on X: "So I guess we’re just making up numbers now? Weird." / X https://share.google/ViWkgDf33STOm19Bh
*"Attempting to CREATE a coherent vilification structure for leftists to use."
*fixed.
Similar in flavor to the "Proud Boys" lies and the FBI false flag operation known as the Whitmer(D) abduction creation.
Also aligned with the Covington Catholic males who were taunted by leftists prior to... standing there. (how dare they!)
Howee is one of those FIGJAMs:
Fuck I’m Great
Just Ask Me
I didnt know about antonia before and frankly i wasnt missing anything
Now michsel tracey hes an interesting lefty, notably on the epstein beat berenson taibbi they have somethijg valuable
Here's the difference between the Left and the Right:
The Left: Disavow and attack the Far-Left? Haha. why would i do that and help the opposition? get Outta here.
The Right: I disavow everyone to my Right. They're nazis/commie/raciss traitors. Can I get on Tv to say that? No one hates those people more them me. I'd rather the left win than help those guys! I put principle before winning - and after all isn't that what politics is all about?
Bottomline is you get all these disavowals and attacks on their own side from Conservatives/Republicans because they're only real concern is $$ and helping big business. If the left would just be reasonable, they'd be happy.
Anyone remember Orly Taitz? I think we were supposed to denounce her (him, maybe?) 10-15 years ago. I'm sure our tutors will get bored with Fuentes and we'll be expected to denounce a new Emmanuel Goldstein soon enough.
No human events no federalist what crack anthropology is this
Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am...
Stuck in the middle with you
Well I don't know why I came here tonight,
I got the feeling that something ain't right,
I'm so scared in case I fall off my chair,
And I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs,
Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you.
Yes I'm stuck in the middle with you,
And I'm wondering what it is I should do,
It's so hard to keep this smile from my face,
Losing control, yeah, I'm all over the place,
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
Well you started out with nothing,
And you're proud that you're a self made man,
And your friends, they all come crawlin,
Slap you on the back and say,
Please.... Please.....
Trying to make some sense of it all,
But I can see that it makes no sense at all,
Is it cool to go to sleep on the floor,
'Cause I don't think that I can take anymore
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
I can't help who I am. Who else is part of the conspiracy?? You've Lost Megan Kelly Pam Bondi Christy Noem half of the podcasters who were in seals or special forces, you've lost Joe Rogan completely whom had a big hand in the victory of trump. If it's a conspiracy then Trump is at the head of the conspiracy because his actions are what is dictating the erosion of MAGA.
The narrative is undying loyalty to Trump no matter what he does or says and then to make every excuse in the world for why he is failing other than his own actions or responsibility
Is that clear enough for you, bad Hombre?
Whack material for the NYT set.
Even though i didnt alwaya agree with christopher i respected him for the most part as you can a rogue trotskyite
Lumper Howard. Pam Bondi and Trump parted ways on good terms.
I guess Groypers are the new Proud Boys or Oath Keepers, who were the new Posse Comitatus or Michigan Militia. Gotta keep that threat scare going. For the same reason, statistics on political violence are manipulated to exaggerate the extreme right's threat and minimize the violence of the extreme left.
Trump was painted as far right, even though his appeal and support didn't fit that arbitrary label. Now MAGA discontent with Trump is smeared the same way. Cosplaying fringe groups weren't behind either trend.
How about that Trump assassination joke on SNL the other night. Fuck these anti-American slimes.
“I can't help who I am.”
Leave Brittne, er Howee alone!
Funny I just clicked over from HotAir where I read the exact equivalent article on how the progressive left is being sucked in by Hasan Piker. I just can't get too worked up about either wacko group. They are both repugnant to anyone with even the faintest remaining shred of common sense.
All this talk of fringe leaves my attention frayed. This whole 'Groyper' thing sounds like a complete confection of the Progressive Left to me, where they underwrite some grifter with message & content, evoking that meme of the character prodding something with a stick saying 'Come on...'
They don't get paid unless they write something, so they do.
There are other ways of making a living today.
https://x.com/i/status/2041214604383236150
Bullshit has always been a way to make a buck, but it's possible that it's now the leading employer in the country, at least on line. I think they call it "the chattering class".
Leftists killed Charlie Kirk.
Then ran out of their MSNBC lie cave and screamed - "The Jews did it!" ...& "Candace Owens is interesting!" &... "Groyopers did it!"... and other lie:
"Charlie was killed because he "wasn't conservative enough""
ALL LIES.
Fact: a Furry fucker- leftist REDDIT leftwinger, with an on-line history of radical leftism, was groomed to kill Charlie.
You cant hate them enough (but you can try)
As far as I can tell, the only people who have any idea who Fuentes is are liberals who act like he has a lot of influence. He doesn't.
One of the worst things about this article - which makes me doubt its veracity - is the constant use of anonymous sources. For example, the whole thing is built around some character named "G" who is supposed to be a young groyper. Why not just go to Fuentes? Or ask his many followers who are out in the open? Obviously, so the author can just make shit up. Remember that guy at New republic who'd go to RW get-togethers and report. Actually, he never left his study.
And then we get this: "A person close to the Administration told me, “The Groypers are to us as trans people are to the left—a small fraction of the Party that’s mentally ill, and then force the whole thing to look bad and lose elections.” Still, he went on, “Jewish donors call me and ask how worried they should be.”
Again, there are tons of people who'd love to be quoted on the Groypers and attack them. Why is this guy, a shadowy figure? He'd be patted on the back by everyone in DC.
Meanwhile, back in the real world...
Whenever I want to know what Republicans are really thinking, I go to The New Yorker.
BTW, Rod Dreher is quoted in the article warning everyone in DC that the Groypers are the New Hitlers and its Germany 1932 all over again. This warning came just before Rod broke with his "friend" (never turn your back on Rod Dreher if you're to the right of Mitt Romney), Tucker Carlson. LOL.
Here's Rod's "Conservative Christian" take on what's going to happen based on reading Antonia Hitchen's article:
" What Hitchens writes about here also happened in Weimar Germany. Right-wing youth, especially males, were among Hitler’s earliest supporters... And, as Lenin demonstrated, you don’t have to have a majority or anything close to it to seize power, as long as you have a deeply committed “vanguard,” one that is well-led.
The Groypers are not well-led, thank God. But they will be. If Tucker Carlson decides to run for the GOP presidential nomination in 2028 — and, if this Iran War turns into a catastrophe for the US, I think he will — look out."
Again, the backhanded slam against his "Friend" Tucker Carlson.
Adam brinkley cued me to the new yorkers mo well jane mayers
The match to Hitler Youth is --------> ICE Watch.
The Twilight Fringe
They probably greet each other by unobtrusively flashing the OK sign. Cuz that's A Thing, donchaknow.
Will The New Yorker delve into the radicalism of ICE Watch?
Democrats celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder and the murder of the United Health Care guy. Turned killer Mangioni into a hero.
New Yorker - strangely silent on this.
You know right
Gunther Eagleman™
@GuntherEagleman
Reporter: “You called the Iranians ‘crazy bastards…’”
Trump: “True.”
Reporter: “What is your response to critics who say”
Trump: “I don’t care about critics.”
Zero apologies. Absolute legend
I am not the right generation to have been exposed to Groypers. But for the record, my son who was in the Marines knows one guy who sounds like this; my son who was in the Army Reserve for 6 years knows none; and the son who lives on the Alaskan frontier knows two - both from Russia.
They greet each other with the salutation 'Christ is King'
What struck me from this sentence is that it's performative rather than real. If you believe Christ is King, you're in a Bible study. You're not in a chat group ranting about the Jews. Christians do not rant about the Jews, because Christ is Jewish, is mother is Jewish, almost all of his early followers were Jewish. The Bible is wall-to-wall commentary by Hebrews. Except for Luke, right? Christians know this.
So these are flippant kids who are using Christianity to piss off people. That's what jumps out at me. If you speak for Christ, you better mean it, or your soul is in a lot of trouble. And of course every follower of Christ struggles with this, because we all fall short, right?
But to me, this is mockery. Using "Christ the King" like a password to the secret club where you hate on people. I would describe this as post-Christian, not post-MAGA. Using Christ and his name cynically. People on the left do this all the time. So The New Yorker doesn't even notice that this is not Christianity.
The racist stuff is not pretense, of course. There are white people who are unhappy that people on the left want to discriminate against them. Of course there are! It was insane for liberals to spiral into anti-white propaganda. It's so obvious that white people would resent this. Any human being would resent it. Racism is deeply offensive.
Liberals are to blame for this poison. And this worldly juvenile attitude has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. That's a pose, because they know Christ upsets you. And that's what they want to do.
MAGA scholar Rod Dreher notes that an estimated 30 to 40 per cent of young Capitol Hill Republican staffers are Groypers.
This is a surprising degree of alienation by members of what should be tomorrow's political leadership class from mainstream conservative traditions and from basic American political legitimacy
One presumes Democratic strategists will carefully segment the roiling Republican right wing and eventually attack them with messaging that might pit one segment against another and for sure separate them from the American center.
The opportunities for Democrats to eventually separate the Republican right wing from the American center are growing by the day. Tucker Carlson might be one of the keys to such a segmenting operation. Democrats have to hope that Carlson doesn't go too extreme too soon. The more Republican momentum gathers around him, the more potentially divisive he becomes. What's not to like?
"..MAGA scholar Rod Dreher notes that an estimated 30 to 40 per cent of young Capitol Hill Republican staffers are Groypers...."
Of course he does, and like a reliably deranged drone, you'll swallow that one and a whole lot of others, and then spend your day compulsively regurgitating it here.
And even if this wild agitation propaganda were the case, it would still be better than a tranny showing his tits on the White House Lawn for Easter celebration, or a nuclear waste expert that steals lady's luggage off the carousels for his fashion ideas, or a Commander in Chief that doesn't know what day it is, but can still order his ice cream like a big boy. Dude I hope A.I. is writing this stuff for you, because it would depress even the Dali Lama to think you were spending your life creating this drivel.
The documentary ‘Feels Good Man’ is an excellent exploration of the way the Pepe the Frog meme was appropriated by the far right. Once it’s up on the web, anything is up for grabs.
The fact that antisemitic memes and symbols are so openly shared -- amongst Republican staffers as part of political commentary, is quite telling.
https://tinyurl.com/4twp8h2e
Rod's a "MAGA Scholar" with a PHD in Trumpy snark.
Groypers are the fantasy boogymen of the left who will divide their opposition and allow them to destroy the country.
So Fuentes is the David Duke of this era. Good of the New Yorker to promote his Grift.
We need better villains.
Little kak-bot (D)
"MAGA scholar Rod Dreher notes that an estimated 30 to 40 per cent of young Capitol Hill Republican staffers are Groypers.
"
Lie.
Groyoper = boogaloo. Same manufactured BS.
Hombre wins the thread.
So Dreyer gave up on his "Crunchie Cons" schtick? Huh. Anyway...
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