That's what I'm reading in the NYT, but what proof is there that the man is even alive?
In written statements carried by Iranian state media, Mr. Khamenei said that Iran would pursue “an effective and regret-inducing defense” and that “the lever of blocking the Strait of Hormuz must also continue to be used.”
Written statements seem more like proof that the man is dead (or in a coma).
The text of The New York Post article gestures at the uncertainty with the word "allegedly": "Iran’s new supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, allegedly released his first statement Thursday vowing to use the 'lever' of closing the Strait of Hormuz to international energy shipping — after reports circulated that he was in a coma and had his leg amputated after being severely injured in the US-Israeli strikes that killed his father and other family members."
The Post's headline is less careful: "Iran’s new impotent supreme leader releases first statement — after reports he’s in coma, had leg amputated." Did Khamenei release the statement or did others do the releasing and use his name?
పోస్ట్లు
119 కామెంట్లు:
Still no proof of life.
Maybe Mojtaba Khamenei will be the first A.I.-yatollah!
And he's still more engaged than Joe Biden was...
In written statements carried by Iranian state media,
How many read this and immediately thought of Joe Biden? Particularly Biden's withdrawal from his reelection campaign?
In case you haven't noticed, this is what Iranians are famous for: Drawing out a scenario for as long as it can possibly be drawn out, for strategic and tactical reasons. This, at the negotiating table, is eventually what drove Trump to start bombing. He's dead. Produce him in public, or elect a new leader. End of discussion.
Yeah where’s the MSM catchphrase ‘without evidence’ now?
Imagine if Trump went a single day with no camera shots. ‘A person claiming without evidence to be Donald Trump posted on Truth Social….’ CC, JSM
Wince FTW.
They need only produce a bearded guy with a turban and call him the Ayatollah. They all look the same to me.
Ooh, my little pretty one, pretty one
When you gonna give me some time, ‘Atollah?
Ooh, you make my motor run, my motor run
Gun it coming off of the line, ‘Atollah!
Never gonna stop, give it up, such a dirty mind
I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind
My, my, my, I, yi, woo!
M-m-m-myatollah!
Come a little closer, huh, ah, will ya, huh?
Close enough to look in my eyes, ‘Atollah!
Keeping it a mystery gets to me
Running down the length of my thighatollah!
Never gonna stop, give it up, such a dirty mind
I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind
My, my, my, I, yi, woo!
M-m-m-myatollah
M-m-m-myatollah
When you gonna give to me, g-give to me?
Is it just a matter of time, ‘Atollah?
Is it j-just destiny, d-destiny
Or is it just a game in my mind, ‘Atollah?
Never gonna stop, give it up, such a dirty mind
I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind
My, my, my, I, yi, woo!
M-m-m-my, my, my, I, yi, woo!
M-m-m-myatollah
&c
CC, JSM
but what proof is there that the man is even alive?
..In written statements carried by Iranian state media..
HOW is This, Any Different from the NYTs posting "twitter feeds" from a brain dead "President of the United States"??
NO ONE had ANY Problem with the NYTs pretending that Josie Biden was alive and not a Disney Animatronic
True to form, NYT mediaswine produce a flurry of negativity about the action in Iran. The Alice in Wonderland Syndrome persists and infects their readers.
Iran will never be free of these loons and their Shia fanatic followers. Too bad, but she may be free of nuke and missiles.
So lets assume he's dead. Why are the Irainians pretending he isnt? Obviously, to keep the real leader, who took over after his death, safe.
It'd make sense to keep him as figurehead, issuing written statements and orders.
Foreign policy by Assassination. One more clue the Israeli tail is wagging the USA Dog. That and killing 150 school girls in Iran with USA missiles is more proof this is Epstein's war.
BTW, I'm reading a book "Days of Deceit" about FDR and the Pearl Harbor attack. When FDR learns the Japanese will attack us (he didn't know about Pearl Harbor - he thought Phillipines), he pondered whether we should strike first. "No", FDR said, "We're a Democratic country with a good track record. Lets not sully it. They'll have to make the first move."
Wonder what he would've thought of Trump.
"What difference, at this point, does it make?"
We can bomb. We can watch. We can impoverish. We can even make the rubble bounce. But if the current regime survives or it's replacement is the same or worse we will have lost.
Mmm, if they’re like VZ seems to be turning out - run by more of the same assholes, but scared - it sounds like a win. CC, JSM
RCOCEAN II said...Foreign policy by Assassination.
My whole life, the anti-war contingent has been arguing that violence should target leaders and not the common people--war is declared by old men and fought by young men. Now that we have a president doing just that, I'm not going to cry that too many generals and not enough privates are dying.
RCOCEAN II said...That and killing 150 school girls in Iran
The government of Iran is the only source for that claim.
War news follows the Bob Dylan lyrics…A Complete Unknown. But the fake media is Freewheeling with their failure narratives.
General Streck: [on the phone] What is the condition of Sergeant Kruger? [pause] Very well, let me know if there is any change in his condition. [Hangs up] He's dead.
"The government of Iran is the only source for that claim."
Who told you that? You guys are so propagandized, and well, it's pretty plain that you don't have the wherewithal to resist it, like you know nothing of the history of Israel and Iran doing back to Israel's founding, or Iran's history of 3,000 years, but Althouse is the real disappointment here.
He's the Occluded Ayatollah.
"It's just a flesh wound!"
"The government of Iran is the only source for that claim."
The USA Government has not denied we struck the Girls school. And nobody except you has denied that 150 school girls were killed by a Tomahawk missile. They say the matter is "under investigation"
The girls are dead. There are only two possibilities. The USA/Israel did it. Or Iran did it. There's no reason and no evidence Iran did it. Case closed. But keep up the lying propaganda. I suppose you don't 60,000 women and kids didnt die in gaza either. The whole place in a rubble but the Israelis were dropping fairy dust and twinkies.
Its amazing how amoral, or more accurately immoral Americans are. Rivers of tears over dead Isaelis. Tough guy "lets kill em and let God sort em out" when its Arabs or Iranians. Too bad we can't convert Americans like this to Christianity.
Its too bad someone can't get Miss Lindsey to read the New Testement and tell him about this crazy new Religion call "Christianity" - he doesn't seem to know it exists. Maybe they don't teach it in South Carolina.
The Ayatollah regime is buying time. My guess is Mojtaba Khamenei aka Junior is non compost mentis. Otherwise, he would be videoed wearing his war wounds like a crown to inspire the troops.
There's a nonzero chance Junior is a Mossad asset. His London apartment is 45-meters from the Israeli embassy.
I read somewhere he addressed the nation for 17 minutes last night... dont rely on the nyt. Be skeptical of the right things,ann.
The US bombed the school for the daughters of Iran's navy too using bad coordinates given by Israel. The best news sites are on the ground and timely. Don't wait, monitor social media... the facts get disappeared and buried, but if you read them at the time you know what the papers will be reporting days later... hth.
I mean sure he could he dead…I’m gonna need to see a photo of him with today’s Jerusalem Post…
"allegedly" has the same effect as the passive voice. It allows an action to be described without saying who performed it.
lost a leg? Nothing but a flesh wound.
RCOCEAN II said...nobody except you has denied that 150 school girls were killed by a Tomahawk missile. They say the matter is "under investigation"
Do you need basic logic instruction? The second quoted sentence directly contradicts the first.
I raged when I saw this NYT headline. The same from the WSJ. A newsreader reads a statement supposedly from a man who may indeed be dead, and the press accepts the framing wholesale. When Trump or his team speaks, skepticism is dialed to 11; when the Iranians speak, its is from God's lips to the Times headline.
While we don't know the details, leadership and the Iranian economy are close to collapse. They are running out of fuel, and even water. One can only surmise the internally, no one is in charge. Yet because it is hidden behind a black curtain, we assume they are unified in defiance, while the US is indecisive, failing, with no direction. Pathetic.
Now we need an "Khamenei is like Biden" tag.
Ocean, how about this bit of Christianity, from Romans 13:
"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities....he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed,...for he is God’s servant for your good....for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer."
That's what Trump is doing right now. Executing wrath on the wrongdoer. CC, JSM
BTW, I'm reading a book "Days of Deceit" about FDR and the Pearl Harbor attack. When FDR learns the Japanese will attack us (he didn't know about Pearl Harbor - he thought Phillipines), he pondered whether we should strike first. "No", FDR said, "We're a Democratic country with a good track record. Lets not sully it. They'll have to make the first move."
Wonder what he would've thought of Trump.
It's a good thing he waited for the Japanese to act first. Otherwise he wouldn't have felt good about himself and his track record, and the war wouldn't have been such a cakewalk.
JSM at 11:10 - I give it an 8.5. Easy to dance to.
Iran has no Navy. No air force. Their mechanized army ability has been decimated. They've lost all their ballistic launchers. And yet somehow we are to believe they are any minute now about to mount an effective defense beyond their dumb drones.
Mojtaba should hire the Biden comms team. They have a lot of experience with this situation.
Maybe they could start with a press conference with him answering pre-submitted questions from friendly press.
"Foreign policy by Assassination." That's a good description of Iran's foreign policy -- that and "foreign policy by terrorism." Sorry, Iran's regime is not entitled to our gentlemanly restraint.
To be fair, written statements is more than Biden officials provided as proof the autopen was authorized for each use.
Being in a coma means never having to say, "I'm sorry."
"The girls are dead. There are only two possibilities. The USA/Israel did it. Or Iran did it."
But what's the "it"? If you have proof that the U.S. or Israel intentionally targeted the schoolgirls, let's hear it. If it wasn't intentional, then how are their deaths any different from those of hundreds of thousands of other civilians who have been accidently or collaterally killed in wars around the world?
If you're so outraged about civilian deaths, what do you have to say about Iran's decades-long campaign of terrorism against Israel and the West, or about its recent intentional slaughter of 40,000 of its own citizen-protesters? Nothing, I imagine, because railing about those deaths wouldn't serve your communist objectives.
Maybe the new Ayatollah is taking 'austerity' to a new level.
The NYT wants the US to lose the war because Trump is President.
Or maybe he's just very shy.
Chris said, "Iran has no Navy. No air force. Their mechanized army ability has been decimated. They've lost all their ballistic launchers."
The Taliban had none of those things either.
Main headline on WSJ as of 1:27 pm 3/12/2026: Iran’s New Leader Vows to Fight On as Ship Attacks Surge: New Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei said he would keep the Strait of Hormuz closed
"Unconditional Surrender" just dropped.
Jupiter said...
"allegedly" has the same effect as the passive voice. It allows an action to be described without saying who performed it.”
It’s actually closer to the subjunctive mood which has largely disappeared in modern English. The Germans still have it and they would have cast all the verbs into the subjunctive mood.
Of course the style books all go out the window at the MSM when it comes to Trump. Every specious allegation is cast using the indicative mood as if it were proven true already. George Orwell warned us about this corruption of the language.
RSM said: "The Taliban had none of those things either." True, the Taliban also had an enemy (in the US gov) that had no interest in actually winning.
Persia or Iran? It's no one's business but the Persians.
As for Iran, aborting the Iran-Hamas Affair is causing temperatures to rise, the climate to change.
Austerity to save his posteriority.
Cue that dark comedy 'head of state'
Chris said, "True, the Taliban also had an enemy (in the US gov) that had no interest in actually winning."
Winning is a very subjective term. Trump just used it today in fact. About 2 weeks ago he also set an objective of "regime change".
"Mission Creep" is also a subjective term, one it appears lots of people here already disagree on. It is very useful though, especially when what's possible is faced with what's probable.
I think the card board ayatollah was more useful
https://x.com/Alladdin1983/status/2031918566363349014
"...the Taliban also had an enemy (in the US gov) that had no interest in actually winning."
Correct. We have another dog in this fight, who is actually leading everything.
This idea might be just crazy enough to work. What if we cut off the supply the supply of "Ayatollah turbans". Hear me out first. They are never seen without their turban. I don't know for a fact, but maybe you can't Ayatollah without it. What if that's their Achilles' heel.
We need to start thinking outside the box. This war is taking too long. The Academy Awards are next Sunday already. And you know they are going use that podium to pummel Trump.
Turbans are us
Schrödinger's Ayatollah?
Norwegian blue ayatollah pinning for the zagros mountains
"The lever... must be used."
The only lever in the Strait of Hormuz is the United States Navy, and it pries the mullahs out of power, bit by bit.
“the lever of blocking the Strait of Hormuz must also continue to be used.”
Hee…missing a leg and still shouting, “None shall pass!” This guy is taking inspiration more from Monty Python than the Koran
Iran delenda est!
They words sound like the copy from a DC public relations and strategy firm, not from a newly chosen pirate leader, arrrrgh…
Given Iran’s history I’m going beyond skepticism to complete disbelief in everything they say. And don’t say.
Did I miss anything?
If he's not dead we should kill him.
If he is dead then we should kill him again just to be sure.
"The girls are dead. There are only two possibilities."
Has there been any proof even of dead girls? I'm not even convinced of this. As far as I know, no names, no photos, no documentation, just a claim by Iran. I'll put that right there with all the claims of tens of thousands of Gazan children killed that RC just eats up and repeats.
Maybe he was recently in Michigan, traveling to a synagogue to engage in "white supremacy"-as the leftists call it now...
I can’t believe nobody has cited ‘The Princes Bride’ yet. This war is making us look very badly.
Do it for the Reiner family.
RCOCEAN II said...
Its amazing how amoral, or more accurately immoral Americans are. Rivers of tears over dead Isaelis.
The only immoral one here is you, RC
Rivers of tears for those murdered by terrorists. No tears at all for the supporters of terrorists, or the families of terrorists, getting their evil turned on them.
Just like we don't cry when some killer gets the death penalty, but we may cry for the victim: Because we're not psychotic scum bags.
it's what differentiates us from you
So the new Ayatollah is dead because written statements are all there is to interpret, but they're dumb from the start.
This reminds me of the death of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, who supposedly was killed in Abbottabad, Pakistan on May 2, 2011
But Osama bin Laden died after being maimed in an American air raid on the Tora Bora mountains of Afghanistan in December 2001, a French expert on the Arab world, Ghislaine Alleaume, a historian and Arabist at the French National Research Centre, believes. She bases her theory mostly on a video of the al-Qaeda leader broadcast by al-Jazeera television on 27 December 2001. Bin Laden looks weary and sick, but Mme Alleaume also believes he has had his left arm amputated.
A Funeral Notice for Osama bin Laden was published on December 26, 2001, in the Egyptian newspaper al-Ward.
On October 16, 2002, Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assessed that Bin Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in December 2001. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are probably fake.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/26/world/a-nation-challenged-the-pursuit-high-level-murmurings-that-bin-laden-is-dead.html
I think i brought up inigo montoya but also inconceivable
I suppose they named him as Supreme Commander as an act of defiance. His name has propaganda value. The propaganda value would be enhanced if he could be shown actually speaking words of defiance. It's a bit suspicious. I have no insight into the mind of an IRGC member, but I'm not sure they would find this heartening......If oil moves freely through the Strait and the price of oil goes down, I would say that we have won the war. So, no, we have not won the war. There can be no doubt, however, that Iran has already lost the war.
I don't know how this will turn out. Neither do you or THEM or us good people. The percentage bet, however, is on the USA.
I see pictures of these small, independent Gulf states. They've got some impressive looking skyscrapers there. I understand that they're ruled by monarchies. I'm sure those monarchs invest a portion of their income in Ferrari's and jewels for their ladies, but they and their subjects live in skyscrapers and not in bunkers. I wonder if the people of Iran see the same pictures and draw the same lessons as I do.
The IRGC can look towards Afghanistan and take heart. The Taliban won their war against the USA. The women of Iran, however, may look towards Afghanistan and be less heartened to continue the struggle.
Jersey Fled said...
" Given Iran’s history I’m going beyond skepticism to complete disbelief in everything they say. And don’t say.
Did I miss anything?"
No
Ok Tim, I'll clarify.
The Trump and Mr. Pete did not say "We didn't bomb the school." Thats a flat denial. They said "The matter is under investigation". Which means they did it.
Obviously, unless you're playing dumb, Trump and Mr. Pete know whether the US did or not hit the school twice with tomahawk missiles. Its not a mystery as where the Tomahawks were going or what their targets were. Someone could check the time of the missile hits (plural) and the targets in the area and tell Trump or Mr. Pete in five minutes whether we did not - or did not - hit the school.
That we say "Its under investigation" - instead of "We didn't do it. The Iranians did. And here's why". Means we did it.
Isn't it funny how all leftists just never attack the war or Israel. They will attack Trump. I guess being a Leftists means you're in favor of war and USA imperialism. And killing brown people.
But that just what a scam the whole Left is - and always has been. They've never been ethical or moral. Or against war. Or imperialism. Because they'll always support something if it involves their side or one of their favorite groups or nations. There's always a "Sure I'm against X, but this is different".
William: "The IRGC can look towards Afghanistan and take heart. The Taliban won their war against the USA."
The Talibs didn't mind 21 years in the bush because that's where they live anyway. The IRGC were nearly all born after their revolution. They have never not been in power. 21 years in the wilderness would be a rather hard sell to them. CC, JSM
"That and killing 150 school girls in Iran with USA missiles is more proof this is Epstein's war."
Is Epstein's mom aware of this? Did she write a note?
Has there been any proof even of dead girls? I'm not even convinced of this.
Considering their history, zealotry and treatment of women, I'm not even convinced Iran has an all-girls school.
Pilot Bart: Candygram for Supreme Leader! Candygram for Supreme Leader!
I forgot the United States is the only sovereign country on the planet that has to be super precise with its bombs.
Iranian military claims the US hit a girl's school at a time when both sides are firing missiles. A video showed the seconds leading up to impact, with a rocket trail veering sharply at altitude and the rocket re-aiming straight down.
Iranians claim it was a Tomahawk cruise missile. But these missiles are designed to skim the surface in order to elude radar. But the incident took place next to a IRGC base - this is provided as evidence that it was a errant target - but curiously doesn't explain why it would exclude an errant Iranian missile from consideration. They have a much, much higher failure rate.
But now we have posters saying this:
"That we say "Its under investigation" - instead of "We didn't do it. The Iranians did. And here's why". Means we did it. "
Aid and comfort to the enemy is our forte ! I wonder if these are actual Americans.
On the one hand, they seem to uncritically believe news releases from the Iranian theocratic military, while at the same time, disputing the holding statements from the US military, because Trump, or because Jooz. The same Iranian military that says 'sure our uranium is enriched to 60%, but trust us, we would never build a nuclear weapon and we would never attack our neighbors.'
Seems rather inconsistent, or perhaps an indication of limited cognitive capacity.
The merde is piled high and deep? Next up he'll say bin laden had a point
Iran blew up an oil tanker near the Persian Gulf early Thursday morning, hours after President Donald Trump told vessels to "show some guts" and pass through the region under the risk of being attacked.
Following the president's remarks, Tehran officials reportedly waited for vessels to cross into the Persian Gulf before attacking and ultimately exploding the tanker, which resulted in one death.
Reports indicate 38 other crew members were rescued.Trump's advice went against that of his military advisors, who suggested the Strait would not be passable until an agreement with Iran was reached. It comes after the 4 safest US states to live in during nuclear war were revealed in a map.Well maybe Don the Con will go to the FOOTBALL and start the whole world on fire. OBLITERATED? Regime change, major threat, 2 weeks away from ballistic missle to reach US with nukes , get the OIL, anything to stop Epstein Rape files and how they go about trying to steal midterms(Georgia AGAIN, Arizona, martial law(to obstruct midterms best they can do) And what is end goal and real plan.. will the real SLIM SHADY please STAND UP!
They hate America they want it to suffer thats the key
Remember how michael moore thought pipelines were the reason for afghanistan then he became cheerleader for islamic state
RCOCEAN II said...They said "The matter is under investigation". Which means they did it.
Oh. Okay, then.
Obviously, unless you're playing dumb, Trump and Mr. Pete know whether the US did or not hit the school twice with tomahawk missiles.
Someone saying something so stupid should be more careful about throwing around the word “dumb.” At least show some awareness of the assumptions you’re making.
If the girls' school was deliberately targeted, yes, then it's a war crime. If not, not.....A better question: was the girls' school deliberately located to be in the blast zone of a prime military target. If so, should that be considered a war crime.......Iran is successfully blocking the straits of Hormuz, but, at the same time, they are successfully enforcing a siege on their own oil exports. Can we withstand $100 per barrel oil longer than Iran can withstand the loss of all oil income? I honestly don't know the answer to that question and, indeed, any answer is speculative. The human race is reliably irrational.
In the hierarchy of values of the left, anti-imperialism is a greater good than women's rights. That's why feminists were so strangely mute when the Taliban prevailed.......Anti-Semitism is not a core value of the right the way anti-imperialism is on the left. However, it's there. That's why so many anti-Semites are rooting for Iran. They are pro western values except when such values conflict with their anti-Semitism.
Aside from "Trump and Hegseth hate little girls and puppies and the US just sucks", has anybody explained why the military would deliberately bomb a school instead of a nearby military target?
I'm reminded of the Viet Cong. They could go on losing longer than we could go on winning.
It's an excursion that will keep us out of a war ~ Donald J Trump
Enigma wins the thread.
Hope those 2400 U.S. servicemen killed at Pearl Harbor appreciated FDR'S high minded moral judgement.
The Twelveth Imam Speaks: A Thirteenth Imam Will Rule Iran from a Minor Occultation
“ Can we withstand $100 per barrel oil longer than Iran can withstand the loss of all oil income? I honestly don't know the answer to that question and, indeed, any answer is speculative. The human race is reliably irrational.”
Of course we can. The US is a net oil exporter. So, I believe, is Israel. CA (and dependent on CA gas, AZ and NV too) may suffer, but no one else really will. But this war has effectively shut down most of Iran’s production and exports. Ditto its refineries. Hardest hit may be the IRCG, with the terminal, from which it shipped oil, shut down by shutting down its power. It depended on sales of that oil for funding. So, currently isn’t paying its troops.
“ If the girls' school was deliberately targeted, yes, then it's a war crime. If not, not.....A better question: was the girls' school deliberately located to be in the blast zone of a prime military target. If so, should that be considered a war crime.......”
This is silly. It’s manufactured outrage. We have watched for years the fake stories of Israeli hitting this or that civilian target in Iran’s surrogates around Israel, and esp Gaza. Sometimes a hospital is supposedly hit. Mostly, if a hospital is really hit, it was either sitting on missiles, or other weapons stored under it. The rest of the time, it was just made up with fake video. No, hitting a military target sitting next to or under a civilian target like a school or a IRCG facility is not a War Crime. Siting the military target that way was the War Crime.
But realistically, the only evidence that that school was hit, at all comes from the Iranians, repeated ad naseum by such TDS addled media outlets as the NYT and some of the broadcast channels. And, of course, several of the more addled commenters here. Repeatedly in each thread.
And, of course, there is the video of missile tracks showing that it was an Iranian missile misfire that actually hit the school. That was a week ago. The lie is heard around the world, and repeated so many times, that it is believed by the gullible, while the proof that it was false is quickly forgotten.
“ Iranians claim it was a Tomahawk cruise missile. But these missiles are designed to skim the surface in order to elude radar. But the incident took place next to a IRGC base - this is provided as evidence that it was an errant target - but curiously doesn't explain why it would exclude an errant Iranian missile from consideration. They have a much, much higher failure rate.”
These misfires are relatively common for the missiles fired by Iran’s surrogates at Israel. Which is more likely, a million dollar Tomahawk missile, that has already flown successfully for much of a thousand miles, to all of a sudden veer into the school at the very end of its flight, or the $100k Iranian missile to do that within seconds after launch? Esp comparing US and Iranian military quality control, and taking into consideration how often their missiles have misfired in the past? Is this more likely in the first seconds of flight of a cheap missile? Or the last planned seconds of a far longer flight of a much more expensive missile?
Late to the comments party but....
2005-2014 price per barrel of oil was in excess of $100/barrel non-stop for 9 years, adjusted for today's dollars. World was fine. (Briefly went way below that during the great recession)
The school missile story is one of the great distractions I've ever seen. I've now seen photos of "pieces of the missile" lined up in front of the school with clear as day U.S. language on it. As if assembling pieces of a missile and putting them in one location by those whose interest is to claim it wasn't their fault is a legit investigation. I've seen videos of an errant Irani-launched missile indicating that was the source of it, and I've seen investigations by CNN showing how the school was smack dab in the middle of various legitimate military targets and the U.S. precisely hit all THOSE targets - with the inference being the U.S. probably missed once and hit the school. No actual evidence of such.
Iran is legitimately acting as a terrorist state and lashing out with missiles and drone bombings at civilian targets far and wide in the region, attacking other countries not involved, but I've seen/read 20 stories about a single Iranian-claimed girls school for every 1 story about the high-rises and other civilian targets the Iranians are attacking in various other countries that are not even directly involved in the war.
First class propaganda all around. If anything, Iran's response to the U.S./Israeli attack shows you exactly who they are - an unstable terrorist state with outsized impact on a critical region and transportation hub who will use their influence to hurt anyone and everyone when they feel under attack.
Let's assume that it was a US/Israel missile. And it was a school. And the numbers are correct (I remember the 'hospital allegedly hit in Oct 2023 and it was hundreds. Turned out pretty well everything was a lie). Accidents will happen, especially if military targets (contra the Laws of War, btw) are located in civilian areas. And, just as in 1944/5 the French accepted civilian casualties as a price of liberation, so I think (and I know some Iranian opposition in London who say the same) Iranians will accept the cost.
I assume the new leader is seriously injured if not dead. If he was alive he'd be live broad casting. Everybody knows that. In June 1941 (after a week) Stalin went live on Soviet radio. If the new guy isn't doing this he's dead.
Good comment Treejoe. I’m also tired of hearing about “unarmed frigates” without any mention of the daily Iranian attacks on civilian targets in neighboring countries that have not even attacked Iran. A tanker at anchorage in Kuwait was intentionally attacked by Iran. That’s a humanitarian and environmental disaster caused by Iran.
The Times wants Khameini alive, the Post wants him dead. Simple.
"I assume the new leader is seriously injured if not dead. If he was alive he'd be live broad casting. Everybody knows that. In June 1941 (after a week) Stalin went live on Soviet radio. If the new guy isn't doing this he's dead."
Even if not live, you'd see him doing pre-recorded audio and or visual recordings and having those shared far and wide.
Mostly dead, but hel'll get bette4
The pegleg mullah.
Ain't "supreme" now, are ya pal.
The fact is RC you don't give a crap about Iranian school girls. You just want Islam to win and Trump to fail. Just be honest.
Trump could start calling him Stumpy Moe. Or Long John Silvavi. CC, JSM
Tree Joe, good point about France. We set all the Norman towns on fire in the D-day prep. They still have memorials and exhibits in honor of the firemen. But they don’t blame us. CC, JSM
There was also the heroic kraut general who refused to set fire to Paris, and the one who declared Rome an open city. The IRGC could do that if they value Persian heritage. CC, JSM
And let's not forget something else: Iranians have 3 variants of cruise missiles of their own, in case the photos of a winged cruise missile have caused anybody to assume these are pictures of a US Tomahawk cruise missile and nothing else.
The Quds-1, Ya-Ali, and Soumar/Hoveyzeh all have that similar configuration. All are medium range armaments designed to hit anything within the region.
Some of the analyses that I've read have looked at the configurations from those photos and concluded that the wing placement along the fuselage indicates that it's an Iranian missile.
https://missilethreat.csis.org/country/iran/
Aggie.
They had three variants. Not any more.
Development.
Iranian citizens are spotting IRG troops or Basij militia checkpoints and telling the IDF. The IDF sends a missile.
And now I see that Coffee & Covid has made a similar observation, and seen some of the same analysis. '
No discussion of these factors in the sympathetic / patriotic American media. Not curious; Blame USA. Reconsider only if unable to avoid revisions on threat of lawsuits.
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