NYT link.
Here's the opinion, Learning Resources v. Trump. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh are the 3 dissenters. The Chief Justice writes the opinion of the Court for Parts I, II–A–1, and II–B. His opinion for Parts II–A–2 and III is joined by Gorsuch and Barrett, who also file concurring opinions. Kagan has a concurring opinion joined by Sotomayor and Jackson, and Jackson has a concurring opinion.
So there is a lot of complicated reading to do.
ADDED: From the Opinion of the Court:
We have long expressed “reluctan[ce] to read into ambiguous statutory text” extraordinary delegations of Congress’s powers. In Biden v. Nebraska, for example, we declined to read authorization to “waive or modify” statutory or regulatory provisions applicable to financial assistance programs as a delegation of power to cancel $430 billion in student loan debt. In West Virginia v. EPA, we declined to read authorization to determine the “best system of emission reduction” as a delegation of power to force a nationwide transition away from the use of coal. And in National Federation of Independent Business v. OSHA, we declined to read authorization to ensure “safe and healthful working conditions” as a delegation of power to impose a vaccine mandate on 84 million Americans.
We have described several of these cases as “major questions” cases. In each, the Government claimed broad, expansive power on an uncertain statutory basis.... “[B]oth separation of powers principles and a practical understanding of legislative intent” suggested Congress would not have delegated “highly consequential power” through ambiguous language....
It is... telling that in IEEPA’s “half century of existence,” no President has invoked the statute to impose any tariffs—let alone tariffs of this magnitude and scope. Presidents have, by contrast, regularly invoked IEEPA for other purposes. At the same time, they have invoked other statutes—but never IEEPA—to impose tariffs, on products ranging from car tires to washing machines....
The President’s assertion here of broad “statutory power over the national economy” is “extravagant” by any measure. And as the Government admits—indeed, boasts—the economic and political consequences of the IEEPA tariffs are astonishing....
The Government’s and the principal dissent’s proposed foreign affairs exception fares no better.... The central thrust of the Government’s and the principal dissent’s proposed exceptions appears to be that ambiguous delegations in statutes addressing “the most major of major questions” should necessarily be construed broadly. But it simply does not follow from the fact that a statute deals with major problems that it should be read to delegate all major powers for which there may be a “colorable textual basis.” It is in precisely such cases that we should be alert to claims that sweeping delegations—particularly delegations of core congressional powers—“lurk[]” in “ambiguous statutory text.”
There is no major questions exception to the major questions doctrine. Accordingly, the President must “point to clear congressional authorization” to justify his extraordinary assertion of the power to impose tariffs. He cannot....

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Can't win them all.
Mixed feelings.
Good.
One branch overrides another in order to maintain the balance of the branches. What if one branch is dysfunctional? Do they all have to lower the bar to that standard to stay "balanced"?
Good! This was the correct Constitutional analysis.
It is also the best economic outcome:
"Tariffs are a tax, and if you tax trade or if you tax anything, you'll get less of it. I will continue to oppose tariffs because they have the potential of destroying the American economy. Unchecked executive actions enacting tariffs tax our citizens, threaten our economy, raise prices for everyday goods, and erode the system of checks and balances that our founders so carefully crafted."
-- Republican Senator Rand Paul
I made a wager on Kalshi on this case. I lost about $90.
All I can say is that Trump better take out the Supreme Leader ASAP so I win those bets.
Just skimming through the decision, so what I say may be premature: The decision seems to state that Trump as President has the right to prohibit importation, but not to impose a tariff. So, my guess is that will be the administration's response, i.e., to prohibit importation. This has the same effect on domestic prices as using a tariff (because both inhibit imports), though it means less revenue for the government.
Kavanaugh’s dissent was stronger than the majority opinion.
Tariffs are a tax, and if you tax trade or if you tax anything, you'll get less of it. I will continue to oppose tariffs because they have the potential to destroy the American economy
So yah this has been the economists position all along. Well done with the bloviating Rand Paul but what you’re really saying is you’re opposed to the US imposing tariffs. We will never hear you running your mouth about us trade partners imposing embargoes or tariffs on us goods, which has been Trump’s position. Another lightweight that loathes finance creating problems wile believing they’re the solution…
"So there is a lot of complicated reading to do."
Hard pass.
Trump likely happy that this story bumped the Q4 fall of the GDP below the fold. Also likely mutes the Dow's response to that negative economic news.
The eternal issue with these cases is the fecklessness of Congress. The Supremes aren't wrong - taxing decisions are obviously the responsibility of the legislative branch, but that doesn't mean the legislative branch is going to take its responsibilities seriously and we have almost a century of evidence on the matter.
The Ds may be the dog that caught the car on this. Affordability is a key issue and now that the tariffs are gone, the pressure will be on Walmart, CostCo, Target, Publix, etc to lower prices in response. If prices indeed come down, the Ds will lose a talking point.
I’m sure Roberts is proud to find himself on the same side of the opinion as KBJ. Wow…
Now we return you to tales of Epstein, Lord Mountbottom and Grandma Guthrie, and the amazing job that Mayors Bass, Johnson, Wilson, Frey & Mamdani are doing.
I’m no expert, but this decision sounds right. The tariff is obviously a tax, so unless Trump can site enabling legislation, he should not be able to use tariffs this way. If this loss creates big problems for his program, then he needs to take it up with his legal advisors.
I've started pronouncing 'affordability' as 'affor-DAB-ility.' Just because. Pass it on.
“Here's the opinion. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh are the 3 dissenters. The Chief Justice writes the opinion of the Court for Parts I, II–A–1, and II–B. His opinion for Parts II–A–2 and III is joined by Gorsuch and Barrett, who also file concurring opinions. Kagan has a concurring opinion joined by Sotomayor and Jackson, and Jackson has a concurring opinion.
So there is a lot of complicated reading to do.”
Does anyone actually read all that crap? The result is all that matters.
So Trump can’t tariff the living snot of miscreant trading partners, but can slam the door on imports. Okay, got it. This will be fun to watch Mr. Leverage up his game.
I should add Roberts is worthless.
So, will the Republican Congress now grow some testicles and do their jobs instead of ceding their role to the Executive?
More evidence that the Constitution has outlived its usefulness.
Iman said...
Kavanaugh’s dissent was stronger than the majority opinion.
2/20/26, 10:11 AM
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Did Kavanaugh even address the law? The idea that taxes can be enacted based on the whims of one man is unAmerican
The ends do not justify the means.
Now if Trump can just get the Straits of Hormuz shut down.
For the record, I think that well thought out and properly target tariffs are a good idea. I would rather pay a little more and know that fellow Americans have good jobs, jobs doing something other than making tech billionaires richer by delivering food produced by chain restaurants owned by other billionaires, for scraps.
That's not what Trump was doing.
“So Trump can’t tariff the living snot of miscreant trading partners…”
So Humpy still doesn’t understand who pays this tax (tariff).
Several global economic competitors have regulatory structures that are increasingly more nimble than ours. Being nimble can be a blessing and a curse, but I keep wondering if the ground isn't shifting beneath our feet as our system keeps tying its hands behind its back.
"Tariffs are a tax, and if you tax trade or if you tax anything, you'll get less of it."
Yeah, maybe. The Lincoln Nautilus is primarily made in China, I haven't see Lincoln selling any less of those cars. They just jacked the price up about $2,500 and attributed it to the tariff. The Nautilus purchasers won't see a rebate, Ford, which owns Lincoln, will though. Would love to see the consumers get the rebate but that won't happen.
Oh Iran is getting it tonight....
Why should anyone have to claim tariffs back? Trump, Hassett and Bessent declared on numerous occasions — including in front of Congress — that other countries pay them. Were they....lying?
Someone should hook up Truth Social to the US national grid: the amount of rage posting about to hit could power half the country until summertime.
There are authorities other than IEEPA with which the same or very similar deals can be negotiated. Bessent has mentioned this contingency several times. Almost every tariff imposed under the IEEPA was eventually renegotiated after the first "shock" number, so I'm not so concerned as I was when SCOTUS first took this up. It is a small setback, for the USA, not a calamity.
All things being equal I would still prefer the current tam negotiate trade deals than any of his predecessors.
So Trump can’t tariff the living snot of miscreant trading partners, but can slam the door on imports.
WRONG! He 100% *can*. He just has to go to Congress first. A long time ago they wrote all of these rules down in a document called the fucking Constitution but none of our leaders have bothered to read it.
So, will the Republican Congress now grow some testicles and do their jobs instead of ceding their role to the Executive
I agree with Inga that this is an important question to ask even when we all know the answer…
I should add Roberts is worthless.
Yes he and Barret are really turning out to be so reliable!
Palate Cleanser… more reasons why these Commie Mooks canNOT be returned to power:
https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/2024661247296172486?s=20
Not entirely unexpected given the composition of the Court and who the lead plaintiffs were (the group included major Republican donors).
It is good news from an anti-corruption standpoint and national interest standpoint, given that his ruling removes a major tool in Trump's mafia-style shakedown arsenal.
It is kind of significant, however, to know where the 2025 tariff revenue goes. In 2024, tariff revenue was around $70 billion. In 2025 the numbers were closer to $270 billion. So, presumably the Trump tariffs raised $200 billion or so of new revenue.
Technically, if these tariffs are a tax on consumers with 90% of the burden falling on businesses and individuals, it would be pretty absurd to return anything more than 10% back to businesses who nominally paid the tax.
This also means that Trump is blowing a $200 billion hole in last year's budget, and that this year’s budget will probably be over $2 trillion of new debt. Presumably this will also have knock-on effects for interest rates (i.e. higher borrowing costs).
"Tariffs are a tax, and if you tax trade or if you tax anything, you'll get less of it."
This is wrong. Trade barriers include tariffs, duties, taxes and regulations, which all operate differently. That blanket statement is as dumb as saying a cover charge scares away customers from a club. No, it makes the actual interior of the club more selective, and exclusivity has its own attraction. Economics has to include human behavior to be rational in its analysis.
The free market conservatives opposed to tariffs analyze the issue without regard to the unquantifiable externalities associated with a demoralized population.
I said: “So Trump can’t tariff the living snot of miscreant trading partners, but can slam the door on imports.”
DD Driver responded: “WRONG! He 100% *can*. He just has to go to Congress first.”
You’re an idiot. I am not wrong. Trump can’t do it. Implying he can’t do it unilaterally. Thanks for playing dodo.
The everlasting truth is the rest of the world WANTS to sell their goods to America, and we can charge a premium for that. God bless Trump for being the first president to know and act on this.
Thomas and Alito are such phonies. Original Intent and Textualism, my ass!
’So Humpy still doesn’t understand who pays this tax (tariff).’
Inga doesn’t understand the elasticity of demand…
"Trump can’t do it."
Then he should be better at his job. Or? Hear me out, maybe it's because American don't fucking want tariffs. If we wanted tariffs we could elect a Congress that would enact them. Derp.
The system is fucking working, assholes. Eat shit!
If commenters like Kakabich have been correct all along, this is bad news for the Democrats since it means goods and services get more affordable for all Americans.....right, Bich?
our trade deficit was cut in half by these tarrifs
welcome back trade deficits! DDD says "the system is fucking working!"
we CAN'T have tarrifs, 'cause a minority in the Senate are opposed
THIS, is the democracy they WANT! Minority Rule
Oh America, how doth thou work tirelessly to shoot thyself in thy foot. How doth thee find newly innovative methods to hate thyself, shall we count the ways.
.. If we wanted tariffs we could elect a Congress that would enact them..
we HAVE a Congress (House and Senate) that would enact them..
EXCEPT FOR minority rule by filibuster
DD Dumbass said:
.. A long time ago they wrote all of these rules down in a document called the fucking Constitution..
DDD? could you cite for me; WHERE, in "the fucking Constitution",
it says that There WILL BE minority rule by filibuster?
i'll wait
I thought this would likely be the decision and the market also thought so since the result was already priced in, apparently. I think the decision is correct on the law but this also isn't the end of the play, either. Trump almost certainly does have power, on solid congressional authority, to bar imports from a wide variety of countries and for a wide variety of reasons.
DDD? could you cite for me; WHERE, in "the fucking Constitution",
it says that There WILL BE minority rule by filibuster?
i'll wait
Elect a Senate that will change the Senata rules.
Derp.
This is NOT HARD, people. Stop being obtuse.
Trump could have leveraged the Republican majority in Congress to push through legislation formally approving his tariffs. On the other hand, it's highly unlikely those tariffs would ever have passed. I can't imagine a realistic scenario where enough Republicans would vote to impose what amounts to a consumption tax on American consumers.
The funny thing is, this will probably save Trump and the economy from his own gross incompetence.
Based on two words separated by 16 others in Section 1702(a)(1)(B) of IEEPA—“regulate” and “importation”—the President asserts the independent power to impose tariffs on imports from any country, of any product, at any rate, for any amount of time. Those words cannot bear such weight....
The Court apparently agrees that those words can "bear teh weight" of a complete and utter ban on the importation of goods from a country, but despite their ability to carry that immense weight, they can't carry the much smaller "weight" of a tariff?
That is bullshit of the stinkiest order.
good news some of the trade partners can go back to ripping us off.
I don’t think Sludge Robert’s understands what he hath wrought.
The first year is free, but after that you have to follow the law. Apparently.
The lesson Trump will take from this is that he should prioritize hiring the even more sycophantic.
What a mess. The court can't even come up with a clear decision.
The total justification for the ruling comes down to this:
"Tariffs operate directly on domestic importers"
That is how they get away with saying that "complete and total ban" doesn't include the lesser power of "tariff"
But a complete ban on importing a foreign good ALSO "operate[s] directly on domestic importers" who wanted to import that good, in exactly the same way that a tariff does.
The foreign producer isn't stopped from shipping the good, the it's the "domestic importers" who are stopped from receiving it
Every time I see Inag comment on economic issues, I am reminded of AOC’s utterances. (Boston University, BA economics, Bronx Bar and Grill, MS mixology).
’I can't imagine a realistic scenario where enough Republicans would vote to impose what amounts to a consumption tax on American consumers.’
Another mindless comment from an economic illiterate.
’Boston University, BA economics’
Boston University at the time didn’t offer a degree in economics. She has an ‘economics studies’ degree or some bullshit like that. She is not an economist.
Now abort labor and environmental regulations to garner equity with foreign manufacturers and exporters. Sequester immigration reform, too. Epstein concured with the Democratic consensus.
Ocasio-Cortez graduated cum laude[31] from Boston University in 2011 with a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics.[32][29][33] (Wiki)
I realize Wiki is as accurate as MS NOW.
Tariffs enacted through executive discretion were neither novel nor controversial until now. Is it because he's a Person of Orange?
A close call, but sounds reasonable. Too much authority assumed from too small a textual basis.
Trump should have to pay the tax refunds out of his own pocket. If it’s too much for him, he can get his billionaire ballroom donors to contribute.
Decoding Trump 2.0
"Trump's Tariff Toolbox is Robust."
Hmmm. Kavanaugh concurs with my first post: “In essence, the Court today concluded that the President checked the wrong statutory box by relying on IEEPA, rather than another statute to impose these tariffs.”
Trump should have to pay the tax refunds out of his own pocket.
This shit is the level of discourse the left can muster. Sad.
with a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics
…I looked this one up a long time ago: AOC has what is generally considered a concentration in econ by academia, not a major or minor. At BU she could get this without ever taking micro or macro. It was leftie classes like ‘The Economics of Racism’ and ‘Climate Change and Costs’ is all she needed for the award…a bullshit title iow…
JONATHAN TURLEY: "There's a lot of runway still for the administration..."
"The administration has other tools in its toolbox. It CAN actually impose tariffs under other statutes!"
Left flank? why?
Because you're just another commie and you operate off of loyal hate fueled /revenge-fueled lefty authoritarian tribal punishment.
These tariffs were not a long term solution. It generates a short term influx of cash to the government, but the real effect is changing behavior - particularly of the companies when their customers change behavior. The excessive tariff rate imposed by Trump was clearly a big stick across the knuckles.
Arguing now about who can impose tariffs completely misses the point - and is forcing the government back to a status quo, and benefits only big gov and big corp.
Kak: “ Technically, if these tariffs are a tax on consumers with 90% of the burden falling on businesses and individuals, it would be pretty absurd to return anything more than 10% back to businesses who nominally paid the tax.”
Next week at the SOTU, Trump should challenge Congress to amend the tax code to allow a tariff refund for consumers. Just staple that receipt to your 1040 and we knock the tariff amount off your tax due. “Hey, you want me to obey the rulings of the Supreme Court, don’t youse?”
The ushers will have to bring in 538 fainting chairs…CC, JSM
Wow, Trump practically called the 6 SC Justices traitors.
Concur that Congress needs to act rather than ceding power. And we need these trade deals as negotiated by Trump in order to rebuild US manufacturing. No more giving away our technology, our mineral resources, our future in lopsided deals that favor our competitors.
American democrats are in bed with the chi coms - if they know it or not.
What I like about this ruling is that if SCOTUS stays consistent with this ruling, then it will limit the regulatory power of many agencies in the Executive Branch to the letter of the law. Then again, Trump was following the letter of the law (per Thomas’ dissent). Maybe we can get back to only Congress can regulate?
I sense a more limited federal government.
Good luck to the plaintiffs in the Court of Claims. You’ll get your refund in 20 years.
Meanwhile, Trump will invoke another statute. This is how it works.
So under this statute the President can ban the importation of all goods into the United States. Sounds like a major question there.
The Supreme Court should get a spine and just declare the administrative state and any delegation unconstitutional.
Instead, Roberts the social climber waffles. He’s like Tim Cruise’s character in Eyes Wide Shut. Barrett is Roberts the Female. Another Social Status Seeker.
Trump is now having a news conference. He announced he is signing EO’s invoking “national security” tariffs.
Makes me smile.
Listening to commentary on NPR this morning, early airport run. It would seem that the balance of trade is mostly unchanged over the past year, but the balances with individual trade partners has shifted substantially. The shifts are toward nations that are considered to be more friendly, like Vietnam, and away from nations that are not - like China.
Seems like a few of these justices will undertake any contortion to spite the president.
In one decision, legislative delegation is good. Now it's not.
On another note, many suppliers to hobbies I enjoy are in Europe, and are no longer shipping to the USA. They are blaming the tariff situation. Is it real?
Tariffs are a tax that raise prices to consumers === We should expect prices to drop when the tariffs are gone?
I'm toting up all the interesting ways people spell 'announced a decision I agree with.'
Let’s not lose sight of the fact the Robert’s court ruled a key provision of Obamacare a tax. Robert’s contorted himself into a pretzel to rule that way so he would stay in the good graces of The Enlightened One.
" a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics"
Well, that's embarrassing, considering all the stuff she gets wrong on those two very subjects. I'd say those two areas are her weakest. Her strength is being a modern Democrat, which doesn't involve any area of study. You simply bitch about Trump or Republicans and offer no solutions.
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"The Supreme Court blocked it but it did not stop me" - Biden
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/2024894064018305178?s=20
Humperdink said...
Trump is now having a news conference. He announced he is signing EO’s invoking “national security” tariffs.
Heh. Indeed.
As MJB Wolf and Yancey have pointed out, there are lots of laws enacted by Congress other than the IEEPA under which Presidents can and have imposed all sorts of tariffs; I expect that Trump will very shortly issue new tariff orders citing those provisions.
Do the opinions address this?
In response to the arguments that Trump needs to have Congress pass bills to authorize all of his tariffs, that has never been the historic arrangement. Certainly if Congress wanted to curtail Trump's actions in imposing tariffs, Congress has full Constitutional authority to do so. I am not aware of Congress taking any such action.
What appears to have occurred here is that the Court has usurped Congress' prerogative to delegate tariff authority to the executive branch.
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48435
First impression after a quick first pass: I find Thomas's dissent persuasive, in both history and precedent, particularly on external trade policy, the major questions doctrine and non-delegation issues which seem to be the basis for the majority decision.
Moreover, without those constitutional underpinnings, I don't see why it should be the courts not the Congress itself that should limit or claw back a power delegated to the president by a previous congress. I think this is especially important with respect to retroactive effect.
As I recall, Gorsuch specifically asked the Solicitor General whether it would take a veto-proof majority of Congress to claw back the Trumps tariff duties under the IEEPA. (But isn't that true of any repeal of a statute that the president supports but congress wants to overturn?)
I suspect that lurking veto-proof legislative repeal issue was the true basis of Gorsuch's dissent -- that Congress would have a hard time retrieving it's prerogative under one of its broad delegations -- rather than some purist notion of major questions doctrine and non-delegation.
As usual you see what a mess the SCOTUS is. The 3 D's of course voted because...Trump. If this was Biden, they'd vote the other way. The 3 conservatives actually write a clear history based opinion. The we have the three "moderates".
Who agree with that Trump is wrong, but then disagree with each other as to why. They come up with some mumbo-jumbo that can be applied or not applied the next time a similar case comes up.
IOW, this a typical Justice Roberts production. ACB is once again showing she's a complete lightweight and only got on the court because she wears a skirt.
Personally, I dont really care one way or another about Tarriffs. But as Trump has stated, the refunding of billions will be difficult.
WInce makes a great point which I agree with. Congress doesn't need the SCOTUS to restrain Trump - all they have to do is pass a law. Should be easy since they passed the original law. Just clarify what the POTUS can or cannot do.
They don't need the SCOTUS to ride to their rescue.
What's been happening since Jan 2025 is the Democrat Judges - helped by Roberts SCOTUS - have been stopping Trump. In effect, doing Congresses job for them.
So we end up in the following situation. If its a D POTUS he can issue crazy executive orders and its up to Congress to stop him. If its a R POTUS, Congress can just rely on the Leftwing D judiciary to stop the R POTUS.
More proof that we are ruled by 9 unelected pontiffs in robes.
Congress wrote a law.
The President signed it.
The Supreme Court said I don't care get fucked we run this country.
Humperdink said...
Let’s not lose sight of the fact the Robert’s court ruled a key provision of Obamacare a tax. Robert’s contorted himself into a pretzel to rule that way so he would stay in the good graces of The Enlightened One.
The only purpose of the Supreme Court is to make sure the globalist oligarchs get what they want and American Voters can just get fucked.
mccullough said...
Good luck to the plaintiffs in the Court of Claims. You’ll get your refund in 20 years.
2/20/26, 12:58 PM
"Will the Chinese importers making claims to the Court of Trade give tariff refunds to American consumers? Don't be BLOODY ridiculous."
Easy points here for President Trump against the worthless Congress and "traitor" courts. Perfect for the American Caesar. The Orange Julius, if you will.
Left Bank of the Charles said...
Trump should have to pay the tax refunds out of his own pocket. If it’s too much for him, he can get his billionaire ballroom donors to contribute.
Tariffs were a direct tax on globalist billionaires.
Of coarse those are the only taxes Democrats don't like.
Democrats hate Americans and they hate America.
Inga said...
“So Trump can’t tariff the living snot of miscreant trading partners…”
So Humpy still doesn’t understand who pays this tax (tariff).
He understands exactly who pays tariffs.
People who import goods into the US pay tariffs.
Anyone who says anything different is a retard.
I'd call it the Princess Bride decision.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"
Regulate.
This might be the worst decision since Roe v. Wade in terms of the rubble it leaves behind. Court admits it has no idea what to do in terms of tariffs already paid. Costco is filing a suit now to recover, but we were told all along that tariffs were a direct tax on consumers. Did that change? Otherwise what losses will Costco claim?
Finally, Court is complicit in whatever the fallout is by farting around for a year with no guidance.
Sheesh.
The Trump Administration argued that the rationale for the tariffs was to create "a level playing field" and to facilitate access for U.S. goods abroad. Good enough but there were better ways to tackle these problems than unilaterally, and illegally, raising tariffs.
What is interesting about this decision is how Trump has turned the political world upside down. When were the Democrats ever in favor of trade liberalization, which is commonly linked with reduced governmental intervention and an embrace of a free-market ideology?
What is less surprising is how Democrats responded to Trump's talk of "a level playing field." Apparently any sense that there is fairness in any kind of competition, from college admissions to world trade, was "racist and fascist."
For all yapping from the Commies the U.S. citizens are paying higher prices due to the tariffs, it sure isn’t reflected in the inflation numbers.
I expect Trump will fix it for them. He has ways.
As I understand it, 2/3rds of the tariffs are unaffected and remain in place and the Prez can use existing statutes/rules to get the remainder squared away.
trumps Tariff policies unconstitutional and illegal. If you hire a Convicted criminal to highest office of course he is going to do unconstitutional and illegal. There should be no surprise or whining here. Do it the right way by the Constitution or not at all. Exactly what I wagered on weeks ago in a post A win for the people over the biggest tax ever a levied on Americans. 6-3 overall trump should be happy as this is the best that could happen to him. Use Congress or get another job. Big opportunity at SOTU asks freakin Congress its called governing within the Constitution as they told you. trump is melting down even though he knew this was unconstitutional, of course name calling, lies and caustic verbage from what he thought was a rubber stamp group. This was not a hard call if you know anything about the law ,its pretty clear. Next
Re refund of tariffs…. Given Trump will impose tariffs via a different statute or two going forward, why not designate the current tariff dollars received by US to simply be a credit by each state or entity? For example, if a company/state has paid a billion so far, they have a billion dollar credit they can draw down before accruing more cost. No need to refund since that would be an utter mess….
Susan Rice has never recovered from her crying jag after Trump’s election in 2016. She should be tarred, feathered and run out of the U.S. on a splintery rail for this nonsense:
https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/2024661247296172486?s=20
Domestic producers, workers, students et al will now have to pay the reverse tariff to compensate for foreign arbitrage. Another leg in immigration reform, planned parenthood, welfare schemes, etc.
All of a sudden, the world cares about money. Perhaps it doesn’t grow on trees, you flippin’ leftwing maroons!
As we know, Trump has negotiated trade agreements including tariffs with various trading partners, using his purported authority to impose tariffs as one large element of leverage. How does this decision affect them--if at all? Do the foreign countries involved have some right to assert that the tariffs they agreed to were negotiated under the (possibly) mistaken premise that Trump had authority to impose tariffs so they agreed to them, and therefore they are no longer bound? (I would hope that the drafters of the trade agreements included language addressing this possibility, but one never knows). If Trump has authority to impose tariffs on the basis of other Congressional acts, aren't the agreements just as valid? And aren't most of the tariffs "imposed" actually the subjects of trade agreements?
If the trade agreements are valid, it would seem that the tariffs which flow from those agreements are also valid, no?
And if that is the case, the issue of "refunds" would seem to be (mostly) moot.
And can't Trump just turn around and say--"OK, I'm imposing this particular tariff against these particular goods coming from your particular country under Section 338 of the Tariff Act of 1930, among other provisions, or we can just keep the same deal in place. Do you want to do business or not?
We cannot shift responsibility a la Obamacares. We cannot share responsibility a la immigration reform. We cannot indulge arbitrage a la Green blight. We cannot reduce our "burdens" through Planned Parenthood umbrella corporation and remain a viable nation.
Resources are finitely available and accessible thus progressive prices and availability.
Just step back and think about the absurdity of that statement.
JD Vance criticized the Supreme Court describing its tariffs ruling as “lawlessness . . . plain and simple”
"and the Prez can use existing statutes/rules to get the remainder squared away."
Which will be proof positive to leftards that he's acting like a dictator.
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Donald Trump didn’t mince words as he took aim at the Supreme Court’s decision which reversed his controversial blanket tariffs, but one of his claims during his speech was hilariously fact-checked live by his favorite news network–Fox .
The network cut into the Friday, February 20 episode of America Reports to bring the President’s live remarks from the White House, just hours after the Court handed down its ruling.
However, as he began speaking and quickly slammed the justices who voted against him, the president also quickly touted the accomplishment of the DOW reaching 50,000–which Fox inadvertently showed wasn’t the case.
Fox viewers turn on ‘embarrassing’ Donald Trump after criminal remark
Our stock market has just recently broken 50,000 on the DOW and simultaneously, and even more amazingly, broken 7,000 on the S&P, two numbers that everybody thought upon our landslide election victory could not be attained.”
However, while the DOW did reach 50,000 earlier in the month on February 6, Fox inadvertently fact-checked him with their live ticker on screen while airing the speech.
His comment was one of several that were deemed as incendiary during his speech, where he ranted about the decision, calling the justices who voted against him as traitorous, and even made claims that he was allowed to “destroy” the country.“I am allowed to cut off any and all trade of business with said country, in other words, I can destroy the trade, I can destroy the country. I’m even allowed to impose a foreign country, destroying embargo, I can embargo, I can do anything, I want, I can’t charge one dollar,” he said.
“I can do anything I want to them…I’m allowed to embargo them, I’m allowed to tell them we don’t want you to do business in the United States anymore, we want you out of here,” he continued. “...But now the court has given me unquestioned right to ban all sorts of things from coming into our country to destroy foreign countries.”
The comments led to several reactions on social media, with many calling them alarming and expressing concerns about his mental health.
Does anyone need any more proof that Trump needs to be in a mental institution?” one person asked, while another said, “Surely there have to be credible doctors and psychiatrists who can get Trump the help he needs.”
Others reveled in his clear anger, referring to him as a toddler. He really thinks those countries were paying the tariffs. It’s mind-boggling how stupid he is,” one said.
Words of wisdom by trump people..3 righties 3 lefties.. See Gorsuch rap on this deal....
A step forward for Antita, Green dealers, Aclu, transhumanists, fetal fascists, pedos et al.
Note that Inga and Kak are gleeful that places like Canada slap 100% tariffs on US goods and now the US cannot respond. It makes leftists very, very happy that America is being hurt by their "trading partners" and we lose jobs and so forth.
Or ... Trump could just follow the Biden Precedent (regarding student loan forgiveness) and ignore the ruling.
I mean, that's what a real authoritarian would do, right?
Famous Political Words "Its the Economy Stupid"
Economic Slowdown: US GDP grew only 1.4% in Q4, slowed by a federal shutdown and weaker consumer spending, signaling a more modest growth outlook.
Rising Inflation: December inflation hit 2.9% YoY, the fastest since early 2024, keeping pressure on the Fed and Americans’ costs.
Supreme Court Tariff Ruling: Court struck down global tariffs, limiting presidential authority and challenging Trump’s trade strategy.
C'mon man THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN :) 2 options for this guy ,1 military on the streets for Mid Terms 2 Start a War.
“As I understand it, 2/3rds of the tariffs are unaffected and remain in place and the Prez can use existing statutes/rules to get the remainder squared away.”
“The following percentages reflect the impact on his broader tariff strategy:
Nearly 75% of New Revenue: The ruling erases nearly three-fourths of the new tax revenue the administration projected raising from tariffs over the next decade.
60% of Effective Tariff Rate: Tariffs enacted under IEEPA accounted for approximately 60% of the recent 17% average effective U.S. tariff rate.
100% of "Liberation Day" Tariffs: The ruling completely invalidates the sweeping global duties imposed under IEEPA, including the high-profile "Liberation Day" reciprocal tariffs.”
Iman: your Susan Rice link included this from her: “If these corporations think that the Democrats, when they come back in power, are going to play by the old rules…they’ve got another thing coming."
I am surprised you didn’t let loose with some Priest!
https://youtu.be/JISQMhtXiSM?si=7h0wJtwKk2QCRBNz
CC, JSM
Sean Davis on X: "In his dissent, Kavanaugh mocks the Roberts majority for upholding Biden’s lawless vaccine mandate for government employs while arguing that a law giving the president authority to regulate—and even fully ban (equivalent to an infinite tariff)—all imports somehow doesn’t give him https://t.co/2by5qHjBRe" / X https://share.google/kNBWI5CexNm9w6BYF
Yes it is weird that the power to tax is the power to destroy, but the power to destroy isn’t the power to tax. CC, JSM
Achilles said...
More proof that we are ruled by 9 unelected pontiffs in robes.
Congress wrote a law.
The President signed it.
The Supreme Court said I don't care get fucked we run this country.
2/20/26, 2:33 PM
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Hey Corky, the law does not mention the word tariff.
The idea that taxes can be enacted based on the whims of one man (remember he increased tariffs on Canada because of commercial) is antithetical to the founding principles of the Republic to such a degree that supporting it is unAmerican?
Why do you hate America?
Expecto petrona
The one blessing is that under the new tariffs Congress will have to approve them in 5 months, or they go away.
Apparently, the Fat Tub of Goo was not aware of this.
Hailucinations seem to be getting very vivid
The court argument. Seems to be you can shoot a gun
But you cant use bullets
Lost in the news about Trump’s illegal tariffs is another critical point: they didn’t work.
Trump promised these tariffs would shrink the U.S. trade deficit and revive American manufacturing. Instead, the total goods-and-services trade deficit reached $901.5 billion in 2025—one of the largest on record—barely changing from $903.5 billion in 2024 (a negligible 0.2% drop).
American consumers faced higher prices as importers passed on most of the costs, businesses endured massive uncertainty from erratic policy shifts and legal battles, and the core problem—persistent trade imbalances—wasn’t meaningfully addressed. Imports surged overall, with companies rerouting supply chains away from heavily tariffed sources like China toward others like Mexico and Vietnam.
One can only conclude that “Liberation Day” was a total con from the start: bold promises, real pain for consumers and companies, and little to show for it beyond political theater.
These clerks need to go back to one l, the student loan decision did not have any reference point and yet the bidem administration persisted
👆SCOTUS could have said that IEEPA lets him impose tariffs in an emergency but that this didn't qualify as one of those, or he failed to define one.
But it didn't.
It ruled IEEPA doesn't let him impose tariffs at all.
This is a major rebuke to expansive executive power on trade. Trump has already vowed workarounds via other laws, but on the IEEPA front, it's game over.
We'll have to follow another path to mitigate outsourcing, importing, displacement, environmentalism, equitable and unequal inclusion, etc.
Trump on Gorsuch and Barrett:
"I think their decision was terrible. I think it's an embarrassment to their families, if you want to know the truth. The two of them."
He thinks this ruling was an embarrassment to their families? He should review the one where they gave him immunity.
His language discussing Supreme Court Judges shows what‘s wrong with his approach: bullying and no respect for the constitution nor the basic tenets of democracy. How much longer?
Tuesday night’s State of the Union address should be interesting with the justices seated directly in front of Trump, according to tradition.
Trump doesn't know that only Democrats can criticize the Supremes? Heck, Schumer called for protesters to go to the houses of the Supremes. Gun optional.
Apparently, the Fat Tub of Goo was not aware of this.
Apparently, the obnoxious, know-it-all, NeverTrumper douche is not aware Trump has other statutes at his disposal and needs no additional congressional authority to continue levying tariffs.
I had my objections to trump about the iraq war and the silly birth certificate business but considering that there is actually a. Fat pile of (not goo) from illinois as a serious contender for the nomination
It's great that one of he alternate methods of imposing tariffs requires Congressional approval. That way the Republicans in Congress will have to take votes that impose the Trump Tariff Tax on their voters and have to explain to them why they did so before the mid-terms.
If Thune and Johnson get cute and hold off such a vote until after the election I hope the candidates running against those members are vocal about asking how those Republicans would vote on those newly imposed taxes.
Trump has other statutes
The laser dot lingers, and having lingered, moves on.
Just remember, an earlier SCOTUS decided forcing everygody to sign on and pay grossly inflated costs for health insurance was really just a TAX. There've been no inflationary number coming into view with the tariff implementations. What I mostly see is the WalMart hating, but shop there douches whining either their crap CCP products are not available or, they've got to pay more for the crap CCP products.
n.n said...
Tariffs enacted through executive discretion were neither novel nor controversial until now. Is it because he's a Person of Orange
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He's Hitler!!
I'll tell you what it means...
More chaos and deferred investment. Another step down the path of lower growth.
At least someone is finally standing up to Trump. If we had a functioning Congress, this nonsense could have been over 10 months ago.
Trump has less respect for the Supreme Court than Obama. FDR had the least. He browbeat those pussies into the dirt.
Trump is doing a good job discrediting the Supreme Court. They are a joke. One of the few things Americans can agree on.
Kak, the Supreme Court hasn’t stood ip for the law since 1900. They are a joke. Breyer was honest about it.
SCOTUS gave a gift to Trump by declaring the tariffs as unlawful. The tariffs are a tax on American consumers -- and therefore deeply unpopular. If Trump had simply done nothing (let the tariffs expire), the GOP would be in a less weak position for the midterm elections. But with the 10% global tariffs in place, the folly of tariffs will persist.
No one gives a shit about tariffs except for the people slinging the chink stuff and the Han chinks.
Gas prices are down. That affects the costs of good most. If people care about prices, not tariffs. Except for the people who live in California. They love paying high prices.
Keep deporting g the illegals and the prices go down. Decrease in aggregate demand.
You Leftist asshats: There will be NO refund on tariffs imposed -- to anyone. If you had taken the time to read what WASN'T there in the decision(s) and what DJT pointed out in his press briefing today, you'd know that. And as Prof Turley points out, the tariffs will continue .. under another law/regulation. Dems lose again.
Kakistocracy said...
SCOTUS gave a gift to Trump by declaring the tariffs as unlawful. The tariffs are a tax on American consumers
Only a complete retard could say this.
Tariffs are a tax on people who import goods made in other countries into the united states.
It is an actual tax on billionaires.
That is why you hate it. You are globalist billionaire shill.
Since trump has the absolute legal and unilateral authority to drop a nuclear bomb on any country of his choice it logically follows he has the right to impose tariffs.
Tariffs are leverage, a means to an end. Many trade deals have been negotiated based on them. The specific mechanism that created them in a moment in time, when other mechanisms were available, will not render those trade deals moot.
Anyone happily thinking that the tariff leverage writ large is no longer employable is wishing our country economic harm. We need domestic manufacturing to Buy American, after all.
"You Leftist asshats: There will be NO refund on tariffs imposed -- to anyone"
Sounds like a great talking point in November.
Trump takes our money and never returns it even when his actions are ruled illegal.
Your voters also want their money back.
How much are the taxpayers owed from Autopen actions, taken by an admin that was cheated into office? Yes, please start asking for mass refunds from Trump. See where that takes you. CC, JSM
And how much are taxpayers owed from the rampant medi* fraud, enabled and protected by Dem state leaders for years?
Sure Mosby, keep beating that dead horse.
Meanwhile Gen Z would like some of their $160 billion back.
Trump’s New Trade Agenda Is on a Collision Course With Midterms ~ WSJ
For a second there, I actually thought the Supreme Court had saved Trump from himself.
Nope—he's still charging straight toward the abyss, dragging the Republicans and the midterms right along with him.
Meanwhile Gen Z
LOL. Put your mask on and go social distance.
read Gorsuch. He is an outstanding jurist.
He takes the female leftwing judges to task.
They were all fine with Bidne's illegal cancelation of student loans.
in a matter of seconds Inga became a tariff expert.
There is a US steel manufacturer who has benefited greatly by new balance and fairness with the Tariffs.
Remember - the democrats sold the American manufacturer out to the Chi coms. over decades... all for grift, money and power.
Trump should have to pay the tax refunds out of his own pocket.
Absolutely!
Right after every single Democrat politicians who voted for ObamaCare, starting with the Obamas, is forced to pay for every person who had their health insurance costs go up, and / or their coverage go down
steve uhr said...
Since trump has the absolute legal and unilateral authority to drop a nuclear bomb on any country of his choice it logically follows he has the right to impose tariffs.
Are you always this much of a moron Steve?
Trump has the power to block ALL imports from a country.
The greater power includes the lesser power, unless teh law explicitly excludes that lesser power.
Imposing a tariff that slows down imports is a "lesser power" to completely blocking imports.
Therefore the law that gave Trump the power to block all imports also gave him the power to impose tariffs on them.
Easy to understand, if you aren't a dishonest piece of shit, or a moron.
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