"... by activating all the cameras in the neighborhood to find him. The feature works by using A.I. to scan video captured by all the participating Ring cameras in a neighborhood, pinging the device’s user should the reported dog pass in view. The device’s user can then notify the pet’s owner (they can also decline). Scores of posters online have decried Ring’s new feature as dystopian and terrifying. In a rare unifying moment, members of the political right and left expressed their discontent. Senator Edward J. Markey, Democrat of Massachusetts, posted on X: 'This definitely isn’t about dogs — it’s about mass surveillance.' And the conservative commentator Stephen L. Miller wrote, 'The Ring cam lost dog ad is just propaganda for mass surveillance.'"
The Harry Nilsson tag is not a mistake. His recording of "Without You" is the background music.
In the ad, "can't live/if living is without you" is used to express a little girl's feelings about her dog. Such dark thoughts to impose on a child. I mean, it can happen — see "12-Year-Old Girl, Unable To Cope With Loss Of Her Pup, Dies By Suicide" — but let's try harder to keep darkness off of children. The theme of inability to live without a particular loved one is an adult theme.
Speaking of darkness and Beatles adjacent music and children and Ring cameras... "Beware of Darkness" plays as an entire third grade class vanishes into the night in my favorite movie of last year (okay, I didn't see that many) and the best needle drop I've seen/heard in a long time. "Weapons" is a hell of a movie if you like smart horror movies. (I refuse to say "Elevated Horror". I'll reserve that term for tedious A24 movies that are too full of themselves: this means you, "Midsommer".)
Isn't it just the village? If all the customers in the neighborhood know about this feature and sign up for it, then the cameras do what the no-longer-existent nosy neighborhood ladies used to do. Hillary should love it! It takes a village of Ring cameras to raise a child!
Of course the Left fear it because it is the community organizing itself, outside the Party's reach. First there were non-sanctioned chess clubs, now this!
Why does Miller fear it? Probably because he saw how the tech firms bent over for the deep state and Autopen. He can foresee how if the Dems ever get back in power they will quickly turn this into the neighborhood snitch network that commies love to set up. CC, JSM
Nobody is forced to get a camera doorbell and I assume some have privacy features so that the videos stay in the home and never go to the cloud. If not now, there will probably be such options soon.
So long as such cameras aren't mandatory, I vote with the lost dogs and their thankful owners.
Phones & Cameras have been everywhere for a while. If neighbors want to voluntarily join up so be it. Stephen Miller is a fucking moron just like Markey.
Amazon says, "Hey! It's just the street." And we give in. Who wants a child's tears on his conscience?
Then Amazon says, "Hey! It's just your bedroom. It's proof of your alibi. It's proof you were home whacking off, instead of across town whacking Don Leonardo." And we give in. Who wants a lethal injection? Besides, only the guilty fear surveillance.
Bezos has been going down this techo-totalitarian path for several years.
- His Whole Foods supermarkets have biometric palm scanners for those who want to be permanently known and avoid carrying a credit card.
- Some of his (now being closed) Amazon Fresh markets had cell phone scanners that would link a Prime ID to your phone, track all the items in your basket, and allow you to walk out the door without a formal checkout process.
- Ring had a "tattle-tale" feature for a long time. People reported construction blanks as gunfire...suspcious strangers, etc... (I dropped Ring.) Frogs get boiled slowly and then all it once. Think back about the ultra primitive tracking of the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Mao's China... If Bezos himself is not evil, an owner two generations in the future might be.
This is good. The resistance to a kind of intrusive innovation, it’s feedback to the people trying to figure out how to navigate the fuzzy convenience design revolution. Where is the moving goalpost today?
"Scores of posters online have decried Ring’s new feature as dystopian and terrifying. In a rare unifying moment, members of the political right and left expressed their discontent. Senator Edward J. Markey, Democrat of Massachusetts, posted on X: 'This definitely isn’t about dogs — it’s about mass surveillance.' And the conservative commentator Stephen L. Miller wrote, 'The Ring cam lost dog ad is just propaganda for mass surveillance.'"
With much of the country in deep freeze, Global Warming seems to have lost some of its boogeyman mojo. Time to gin up a new cause for mass hysteria: Mass Surveillance! When you walk down the street the neighbors might see you!
One can go to COSTCO and get a home security box that has an assortment of cameras and a box. If you want to be careful, you get wired cameras instead of wireless ones. Not only your doorbell but your entire perimeter. And how much of it you retain is based solely on memory capacity. It's not hard to set up something that's 100% self-contained and pretty much un-hackable, with reasonable costs. But if you configure it so that you can phone in to check your home, then it has become hackable.
I don't like China, but their so-called "social credit" system is a lot less Orwellian than this. If you jump a turnstile at the subway, maybe your reliability score should decrease. Do it often enough and you can walk instead of taking public transit. By contrast, cities like London have lots of CCTV -and- low rates of punishing crime. Which causes mass discontent and "extremist" thinking.
I do love the technology though. I can be across the country or hiking in the mountains and know when someone is at my door, and I can see and talk to them. It's really amazing. The thing is, I could do much of that back in the 90's and I did with cameras at my business, and me checking my building at night from home . Only the creepy stuff is new.
That is that one earner could support the household and that earner's spouse could stay at home and look after their children, get to know all of the other yentas in the neighborhood, and all of the children, and dogs, BTW, dogs that often roamed free and were shared neighborhood pets.
Just think of your HOA getting full, 24 hour video surveillance of everything! You can choose to not get a Ring camera. You cannot choose for your neighbor to not get a Ring camera. And we all know the Gladys are the heart and soul of the Democrat party. They LOVE the idea of the surveillance state... as long as they are the ones doing the spying. Just like they loved mass censorship online when it was Joe Biden sleeping on the controls. They have a different view of it when Trump runs the FBI....
Mass surveillance- Good or Bad? Or- does it depend on how it's used?
It's already been established that no one has any privacy in public places. That executive caught cheating on the kiss cam, the people stealing baseballs from children, anyone caught up in those situation, has to suffer with what's revealed about them.
Police have used security cameras from businesses for years (decades yet?) to solve crimes. Whether they occurred in the business of may have seen a criminal running past from a crime committed on the street. Most businesses cooperate, some insist on a warrant. If they delete video after being asked before a warrant arrives- they've committed a criminal act- destruction of evidence- even if there wasn't any...
There are NEW videos everyday showing thieves stealing packages off porches. Or deliverymen taking photos of the delivery- then walking off with the package... Or of fake packages glitter-bombing or painting the thief. I wonder if the latter isn't actually unlawful in most places as booby-trapping, but then, wouldn't that make putting dye-bombs in bank bags also unlawful? How do you create exceptions? Maybe the simple distinction between deadly or not deadly.
Why would businesses insist on a warrant for their private surveillance? Let's say you're a high end restaurant, exclusive clientele, that includes wealthy men with their mistresses or bored housewives with the other significant other? You may want to ensure the ONLY evidence that gets out from the video is teh crime evidence the authorities are looking for. You don't want any collateral damage.
I don't have a problem with mass surveillance in public places by private entities. Ring cameras and other home surveillance have caught many a liberal ripping up Republican campaign signs or other conservative house signs. AFAIK, never the other way around. If they can solve a runaway dog- or let's say, the kidnapping of a 94 year old women because everyone in the neighborhood has their camera on focused towards the street, well, that an overall good. Whoops! The local lothario gets caught bringing women home while his wife is out! Too bad. Oh, well, sucks to be him.
I do have a problem with authorities looking for "crime" indiscriminately looking for revenue. Red light cameras, speed zone cameras, work zone cameras, jaywalking cameras, and the like. If someone is speeding by a work zone and the excess speed causes an accident- hold them accountable. No harm no foul. But then, I'm not even in favor of speed limits on limited access highways.
We cannot trust Sony not to record and use private information from our TVs, but I am sure this time we will be guaranteed only ethical and moral corporations will be involved.
I leased a car that constantly surveils me, I didn't know it at the time, but there is a camera on the steering column that monitors me every minute, and if I drive with my arm on the steering wheel in a certain way, the camera is blocked, and it beeps at me. For a while I put a post-it over the camera, and a post-it over the message, and was quite happy, but after several days, if figured out that something was up and started beeping constantly.
My next car is going to have round headlights, an eight-track player, and buttons. 12 months left on the lease. I think I am going to start scouting for an old car now, hand it over to a shop that specializes in rebuilds, and update what should be updated, and leave the rest alone.
There's the meme about how in the 1950's we all said something about "keep quiet so the wiretap won't hear you." and how today we ask the wiretap for pancake recipes. Because we put these things in our homes and cars because they can be useful. And they can be terrifying.
Short of losing a human family member, it’s difficult to imagine a darker moment for a 12 year old than losing a beloved dog. This controversy is absurd. Do people not realize and accept the impact on privacy from these devices?
Well, I for one think that they really dropped the ball on this one, they could have seized a golden opportunity to alert the world community to plug into their local networks to join the exciting search for the mysterious, missing, crucially important sick older lady who is our TV personality jounralist's Mom since nobody's doing anything and we've hardly heard anything about it at all ! ! ! .
Somebody (maybe ICE) should have done an ad with the father and girl putting up posters for her missing 12-yo sister. Then the cameras show her walking under a bridge with an illegal (make him a big blond Northern European for equity), and then the illegal walks out alone. The dad and little sister run under the bridge, then we see them run out screaming. Cut to ICE dudes in masks cuffing the illegal. End with a big ICE logo and 1-800 recruiting number on the screen. CC, JSM
Jaq, last night Gutfeld said Obama’s Cash for Clunkers ruined the availability of cool old cars for teenagers. I think you may have raised Obama’s real reason. CC, JSM
Does anyone think that the "surveillance state" isn't already doing this? They are not going to expose it to find a dog, but c'mon. Maybe Ed Markey hasn't figured this out, but i suspect it's more that he knows all about it and is using it for political advantage.
I live in a neighborhood under intense surveillance by retired White middle-class Boomers. I loathe the Orwellian shit so prevalent these days, but I’m pretty happy about the eyes on my street.
Harry Nilsson didn't write the song. The story is dark. From Chatgpt:
Here’s the short, stark truth about the two men who wrote “Without You” (the original title was simply “I Can’t Live”). Both songwriters—Pete Ham and Tom Evans of Badfinger—died by suicide, years apart, each under the weight of financial collapse and royalty disputes.
"My next car is going to have round headlights, an eight-track player, and buttons."
There exists a small but lucrative bespoke car market. Basically, it's a market for extremely rare high-performance sports cars that were never homologated, such as the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupé. Rich people who long for toys they can't have because Jay Leno owns them all, buy these reproduction cars and pay significant green for them. Typically, these cars are more comfortable and faster than the originals, and street-legal as well, which many of the originals never were.
Replica bodies can be made, and are. Suitable frames can be designed and fabricated, and are. Engines and drivetrains are available and able to be installed, and are. Consequently, there's no technical reason a bespoke surveillance-resistant, daily-driver-grocery-getter-drop-the-kids-off-at-the-mall car market could not appear. The profitable price for such a thing could be prohibitive -- but not if Americans use their power of the purse against Big Brother's Detroit cousin.
If you're into older cars, just go onto Facebook Marketplace and type your preference into the search bar, and pick a miles radius. You'd be amazed. If you're patient, you'll be rewarded.
I am going to make a balloon that floats above my house with a set of cameras. Let’s say about 100 feet up which is completely legal.
Every time I notice a Democrat yard sign I point cameras at that house. I record all license plates of vehicles that go there and photograph every person who visits and upload everything to a searchable database.
I make that database available to the Trump administration. We are NAZIs right? Nothing to be afraid of democrats. If you do nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.
The only thing reactions to this hypothetical situation show is that democrats know we aren’t NAZIs and that democrats think they are the only people who will be evil enough to implement this style of surveillance.
Aggie: Honest! Nancy Gutherie is not mysterious but she is the mother of Good Morning America' host, Savannah, and yes she has been kidnapped. But the Ring Camera ploy of interconnecting neighborhood cameras to detect her kidnapping won't work because the stargazing Dark Skies communities of Southern Arizona prefer to have limited lights on at night when the kidnapping occurred.
Is surveillance so bad if it catches criminals? Doesn't this fall under the idea that if you aren't doing anything wrong what do you have to hide? [I'm being provocative. Obviously the Bill of Rights makes such surveillance problematic]. But I'm pretty sure if you explain to people the safety aspect some might be willing to give up a little liberty. And besides anyone with a cell phone is already being surveilled - even and especially if the phone is off because a shut down phone invites speculation as to why it is off....
Regarding surveillance balloons: Look into drones. They allow you to see everyone nearby, and also venture 3, 5, 10 or many more miles away to peek into your neighbors backyards. And then drop or spray stuff on them.
We'll soon be in the pan-panopticon.
Amazon has been angling to use drones for package deliveries for years.
I think we will continue with the doorbell we have used for many years. It's called the Dog series. We are currently on version Dog.6. Dog.3 version 140 lb. Half-Rottweiler was the most effective. Just sitting on the porch was enough. Most strangers didn't want to stick around to make him bark. Dog.6 is a yellow lab but emits a deep, loud bark. No hard wiring involved, just treats. If we require surveillance video, a strategically located trail cam suffices.
Domestic surveillance has been around and around us for decades; it’s the seemingly innocent dog-walker who lingers an awful lot at a specific intersection tallying cars, or the USPS mail carrier who walks their beat daily; even the odd duck standing on a street corner muttering to themselves while staring at their phone – that’s because that day their intended quarry decided to change their routine and now they’re out of position and out of luck. You may be skeptical but spend a little time on the gangstalking subreddit and you’ll see what I mean.
This post on X explains the whole Ring doorbell camera scheme pretty effectively.
Here in LA, homelessness, illegal immigration, no bail policies. and widespread mental illness have made me a strong supporter of home surveillance tools.
According to AI, the way manufacturers justify surveilance of the driver is to maintain the top safety rating, so it's our buraucrats, unelected and invisible that work behind the scenes to make our life miserable.
I read on SDA that Canadian truckers are quitting because the life has been ruined by the constant surveillance, and what was once a decent lifestyle is now a dystopian nightmare. Not to worry though, because we are now handing out CDL licenses to illegals. Don't worry about corruption though, I am sure that none of that is involved!
I am pretty sure that the cameras are accessed by advertisers, based on getting ads for stuff that I was merely around. I guess I could be wrong, I saw some electric bike or something like it, go by, and then I got an ad for it a little later, so it could just be the advertisers matching up locations and inferring that I must have seen it.
Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash ~ The Verge
"Following mounting pressure and a questionable Super Bowl ad, the Amazon-owned company walked back its plan to integrate with the controversial law-enforcement technology company."
Use your doorbell camera to help "them" look for lost pets! And help "them" keep track of what your neighbors does, keep a count on who drives by your door on the street, keep a record of what you say out front and just generally help "them" govern you and your actions. Your neighbors have doorbell cameras too.
There was an episode of "Inside Number 9" (a British TV series each episode a short story) where the 30 minute story was told from the point of a door(bell) camera - how the 'story' is not what you think it is.
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The ad is being ripped apart on X
“How do we convince Americans to support mass surveillance?”
“A puppy!”
….
“Profits.”
"Be a hero in your neighborhood" But I have a "In this house we believe " sign so I already got that covered.
Speaking of darkness and Beatles adjacent music and children and Ring cameras...
"Beware of Darkness" plays as an entire third grade class vanishes into the night in my favorite movie of last year (okay, I didn't see that many) and the best needle drop I've seen/heard in a long time. "Weapons" is a hell of a movie if you like smart horror movies. (I refuse to say "Elevated Horror". I'll reserve that term for tedious A24 movies that are too full of themselves: this means you, "Midsommer".)
Isn't it just the village? If all the customers in the neighborhood know about this feature and sign up for it, then the cameras do what the no-longer-existent nosy neighborhood ladies used to do. Hillary should love it! It takes a village of Ring cameras to raise a child!
Of course the Left fear it because it is the community organizing itself, outside the Party's reach. First there were non-sanctioned chess clubs, now this!
Why does Miller fear it? Probably because he saw how the tech firms bent over for the deep state and Autopen. He can foresee how if the Dems ever get back in power they will quickly turn this into the neighborhood snitch network that commies love to set up. CC, JSM
Nobody is forced to get a camera doorbell and I assume some have privacy features so that the videos stay in the home and never go to the cloud. If not now, there will probably be such options soon.
So long as such cameras aren't mandatory, I vote with the lost dogs and their thankful owners.
Phones & Cameras have been everywhere for a while. If neighbors want to voluntarily join up so be it. Stephen Miller is a fucking moron just like Markey.
Amazon says, "Hey! It's just the street." And we give in. Who wants a child's tears on his conscience?
Then Amazon says, "Hey! It's just your bedroom. It's proof of your alibi. It's proof you were home whacking off, instead of across town whacking Don Leonardo." And we give in. Who wants a lethal injection? Besides, only the guilty fear surveillance.
Bezos has been going down this techo-totalitarian path for several years.
- His Whole Foods supermarkets have biometric palm scanners for those who want to be permanently known and avoid carrying a credit card.
- Some of his (now being closed) Amazon Fresh markets had cell phone scanners that would link a Prime ID to your phone, track all the items in your basket, and allow you to walk out the door without a formal checkout process.
- Ring had a "tattle-tale" feature for a long time. People reported construction blanks as gunfire...suspcious strangers, etc... (I dropped Ring.)
Frogs get boiled slowly and then all it once. Think back about the ultra primitive tracking of the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Mao's China... If Bezos himself is not evil, an owner two generations in the future might be.
Quaestor, I might have a problem. 'Don Leonardo' is what I call my unit. CC, JSM
This is good. The resistance to a kind of intrusive innovation, it’s feedback to the people trying to figure out how to navigate the fuzzy convenience design revolution. Where is the moving goalpost today?
The Nilsson song was probably a less creepy choice than “Every Breath You Take (I’ll Be Watching You)” by the Police
"Scores of posters online have decried Ring’s new feature as dystopian and terrifying. In a rare unifying moment, members of the political right and left expressed their discontent. Senator Edward J. Markey, Democrat of Massachusetts, posted on X: 'This definitely isn’t about dogs — it’s about mass surveillance.' And the conservative commentator Stephen L. Miller wrote, 'The Ring cam lost dog ad is just propaganda for mass surveillance.'"
With much of the country in deep freeze, Global Warming seems to have lost some of its boogeyman mojo. Time to gin up a new cause for mass hysteria: Mass Surveillance! When you walk down the street the neighbors might see you!
One can go to COSTCO and get a home security box that has an assortment of cameras and a box. If you want to be careful, you get wired cameras instead of wireless ones. Not only your doorbell but your entire perimeter. And how much of it you retain is based solely on memory capacity. It's not hard to set up something that's 100% self-contained and pretty much un-hackable, with reasonable costs. But if you configure it so that you can phone in to check your home, then it has become hackable.
One of the most dangerous often repeated ideas is: "You have nothing to fear if you don't do anything wrong." I fall for it myself sometimes.
The drawback of a hardwired, on-prem hard drive system is what if the burglars just steal the hard drive? CC, JSM
I don't like China, but their so-called "social credit" system is a lot less Orwellian than this. If you jump a turnstile at the subway, maybe your reliability score should decrease. Do it often enough and you can walk instead of taking public transit. By contrast, cities like London have lots of CCTV -and- low rates of punishing crime. Which causes mass discontent and "extremist" thinking.
The ring camera is free? Wait. 🤔
I do love the technology though. I can be across the country or hiking in the mountains and know when someone is at my door, and I can see and talk to them. It's really amazing. The thing is, I could do much of that back in the 90's and I did with cameras at my business, and me checking my building at night from home . Only the creepy stuff is new.
We used to have the yentanet.
That is that one earner could support the household and that earner's spouse could stay at home and look after their children, get to know all of the other yentas in the neighborhood, and all of the children, and dogs, BTW, dogs that often roamed free and were shared neighborhood pets.
Just think of your HOA getting full, 24 hour video surveillance
of everything! You can choose to not get a Ring camera. You cannot choose for your neighbor to not get a Ring camera. And we all know the Gladys are the heart and soul of the Democrat party. They LOVE the idea of the surveillance state... as long as they are the ones doing the spying. Just like they loved mass censorship online when it was Joe Biden sleeping on the controls. They have a different view of it when Trump runs the FBI....
Mass surveillance- Good or Bad? Or- does it depend on how it's used?
It's already been established that no one has any privacy in public places. That executive caught cheating on the kiss cam, the people stealing baseballs from children, anyone caught up in those situation, has to suffer with what's revealed about them.
Police have used security cameras from businesses for years (decades yet?) to solve crimes. Whether they occurred in the business of may have seen a criminal running past from a crime committed on the street. Most businesses cooperate, some insist on a warrant. If they delete video after being asked before a warrant arrives- they've committed a criminal act- destruction of evidence- even if there wasn't any...
There are NEW videos everyday showing thieves stealing packages off porches. Or deliverymen taking photos of the delivery- then walking off with the package... Or of fake packages glitter-bombing or painting the thief. I wonder if the latter isn't actually unlawful in most places as booby-trapping, but then, wouldn't that make putting dye-bombs in bank bags also unlawful? How do you create exceptions? Maybe the simple distinction between deadly or not deadly.
Why would businesses insist on a warrant for their private surveillance? Let's say you're a high end restaurant, exclusive clientele, that includes wealthy men with their mistresses or bored housewives with the other significant other? You may want to ensure the ONLY evidence that gets out from the video is teh crime evidence the authorities are looking for. You don't want any collateral damage.
I don't have a problem with mass surveillance in public places by private entities. Ring cameras and other home surveillance have caught many a liberal ripping up Republican campaign signs or other conservative house signs. AFAIK, never the other way around. If they can solve a runaway dog- or let's say, the kidnapping of a 94 year old women because everyone in the neighborhood has their camera on focused towards the street, well, that an overall good. Whoops! The local lothario gets caught bringing women home while his wife is out! Too bad. Oh, well, sucks to be him.
I do have a problem with authorities looking for "crime" indiscriminately looking for revenue. Red light cameras, speed zone cameras, work zone cameras, jaywalking cameras, and the like. If someone is speeding by a work zone and the excess speed causes an accident- hold them accountable. No harm no foul. But then, I'm not even in favor of speed limits on limited access highways.
We cannot trust Sony not to record and use private information from our TVs, but I am sure this time we will be guaranteed only ethical and moral corporations will be involved.
I leased a car that constantly surveils me, I didn't know it at the time, but there is a camera on the steering column that monitors me every minute, and if I drive with my arm on the steering wheel in a certain way, the camera is blocked, and it beeps at me. For a while I put a post-it over the camera, and a post-it over the message, and was quite happy, but after several days, if figured out that something was up and started beeping constantly.
My next car is going to have round headlights, an eight-track player, and buttons. 12 months left on the lease. I think I am going to start scouting for an old car now, hand it over to a shop that specializes in rebuilds, and update what should be updated, and leave the rest alone.
There's the meme about how in the 1950's we all said something about "keep quiet so the wiretap won't hear you." and how today we ask the wiretap for pancake recipes. Because we put these things in our homes and cars because they can be useful. And they can be terrifying.
Short of losing a human family member, it’s difficult to imagine a darker moment for a 12 year old than losing a beloved dog. This controversy is absurd. Do people not realize and accept the impact on privacy from these devices?
Imagine, if you will, a world in which it was impossible to get a little nookie now and then from your neighbor's hot, bored wife with daddy issues...
Who would want to live in such a hell?
Distributed pattern matching.
Well, I for one think that they really dropped the ball on this one, they could have seized a golden opportunity to alert the world community to plug into their local networks to join the exciting search for the mysterious, missing, crucially important sick older lady who is our TV personality jounralist's Mom since nobody's doing anything and we've hardly heard anything about it at all ! ! ! .
Somebody (maybe ICE) should have done an ad with the father and girl putting up posters for her missing 12-yo sister. Then the cameras show her walking under a bridge with an illegal (make him a big blond Northern European for equity), and then the illegal walks out alone. The dad and little sister run under the bridge, then we see them run out screaming. Cut to ICE dudes in masks cuffing the illegal. End with a big ICE logo and 1-800 recruiting number on the screen. CC, JSM
Jaq, last night Gutfeld said Obama’s Cash for Clunkers ruined the availability of cool old cars for teenagers. I think you may have raised Obama’s real reason. CC, JSM
I would love an old Dodge Dart with a slant six that was quieter than an EV.
Will it work on images of elderly women? Asking for all of us…
Client: We're getting concerns about mass surveillance.
Agency: How about finding a lost puppy!
Does anyone think that the "surveillance state" isn't already doing this? They are not going to expose it to find a dog, but c'mon.
Maybe Ed Markey hasn't figured this out, but i suspect it's more that he knows all about it and is using it for political advantage.
I live in a neighborhood under intense surveillance by retired White middle-class Boomers. I loathe the Orwellian shit so prevalent these days, but I’m pretty happy about the eyes on my street.
Harry Nilsson didn't write the song. The story is dark. From Chatgpt:
Here’s the short, stark truth about the two men who wrote “Without You” (the original title was simply “I Can’t Live”). Both songwriters—Pete Ham and Tom Evans of Badfinger—died by suicide, years apart, each under the weight of financial collapse and royalty disputes.
"My next car is going to have round headlights, an eight-track player, and buttons."
There exists a small but lucrative bespoke car market. Basically, it's a market for extremely rare high-performance sports cars that were never homologated, such as the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupé. Rich people who long for toys they can't have because Jay Leno owns them all, buy these reproduction cars and pay significant green for them. Typically, these cars are more comfortable and faster than the originals, and street-legal as well, which many of the originals never were.
Replica bodies can be made, and are. Suitable frames can be designed and fabricated, and are. Engines and drivetrains are available and able to be installed, and are. Consequently, there's no technical reason a bespoke surveillance-resistant, daily-driver-grocery-getter-drop-the-kids-off-at-the-mall car market could not appear. The profitable price for such a thing could be prohibitive -- but not if Americans use their power of the purse against Big Brother's Detroit cousin.
If you're into older cars, just go onto Facebook Marketplace and type your preference into the search bar, and pick a miles radius. You'd be amazed. If you're patient, you'll be rewarded.
I know how to make this relevant.
I am going to make a balloon that floats above my house with a set of cameras. Let’s say about 100 feet up which is completely legal.
Every time I notice a Democrat yard sign I point cameras at that house. I record all license plates of vehicles that go there and photograph every person who visits and upload everything to a searchable database.
I make that database available to the Trump administration. We are NAZIs right? Nothing to be afraid of democrats. If you do nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.
The only thing reactions to this hypothetical situation show is that democrats know we aren’t NAZIs and that democrats think they are the only people who will be evil enough to implement this style of surveillance.
I am actually curious how much I could sell a surveillance balloon for now that I think about it.
Aggie:
Honest! Nancy Gutherie is not mysterious but she is the mother of Good Morning America' host, Savannah, and yes she has been kidnapped. But the Ring Camera ploy of interconnecting neighborhood cameras to detect her kidnapping won't work because the stargazing Dark Skies communities of Southern Arizona prefer to have limited lights on at night when the kidnapping occurred.
Whether they choose to tell you or not, you are being surveilled.
Is surveillance so bad if it catches criminals? Doesn't this fall under the idea that if you aren't doing anything wrong what do you have to hide? [I'm being provocative. Obviously the Bill of Rights makes such surveillance problematic]. But I'm pretty sure if you explain to people the safety aspect some might be willing to give up a little liberty. And besides anyone with a cell phone is already being surveilled - even and especially if the phone is off because a shut down phone invites speculation as to why it is off....
Regarding surveillance balloons: Look into drones. They allow you to see everyone nearby, and also venture 3, 5, 10 or many more miles away to peek into your neighbors backyards. And then drop or spray stuff on them.
We'll soon be in the pan-panopticon.
Amazon has been angling to use drones for package deliveries for years.
I think we will continue with the doorbell we have used for many years. It's called the Dog series. We are currently on version Dog.6. Dog.3 version 140 lb. Half-Rottweiler was the most effective. Just sitting on the porch was enough. Most strangers didn't want to stick around to make him bark. Dog.6 is a yellow lab but emits a deep, loud bark. No hard wiring involved, just treats. If we require surveillance video, a strategically located trail cam suffices.
"Honest! Nancy Gutherie is not mysterious but she is the mother of Good Morning America' host, Savannah, and yes she has been kidnapped."
Yet another gadfly Doctor Watson moment.
Brave New World > 1984.
Domestic surveillance has been around and around us for decades; it’s the seemingly innocent dog-walker who lingers an awful lot at a specific intersection tallying cars, or the USPS mail carrier who walks their beat daily; even the odd duck standing on a street corner muttering to themselves while staring at their phone – that’s because that day their intended quarry decided to change their routine and now they’re out of position and out of luck. You may be skeptical but spend a little time on the gangstalking subreddit and you’ll see what I mean.
This post on X explains the whole Ring doorbell camera scheme pretty effectively.
https://x.com/aakashgupta/status/2021097860490723535
Here in LA, homelessness, illegal immigration, no bail policies. and widespread mental illness have made me a strong supporter of home surveillance tools.
Our phones and computers have been surveilling us for decades. Expectations of privacy are naive at best.
According to AI, the way manufacturers justify surveilance of the driver is to maintain the top safety rating, so it's our buraucrats, unelected and invisible that work behind the scenes to make our life miserable.
I read on SDA that Canadian truckers are quitting because the life has been ruined by the constant surveillance, and what was once a decent lifestyle is now a dystopian nightmare. Not to worry though, because we are now handing out CDL licenses to illegals. Don't worry about corruption though, I am sure that none of that is involved!
I am pretty sure that the cameras are accessed by advertisers, based on getting ads for stuff that I was merely around. I guess I could be wrong, I saw some electric bike or something like it, go by, and then I got an ad for it a little later, so it could just be the advertisers matching up locations and inferring that I must have seen it.
We're all Truman now.
So remember kids...Bullying works.
Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash ~ The Verge
"Following mounting pressure and a questionable Super Bowl ad, the Amazon-owned company walked back its plan to integrate with the controversial law-enforcement technology company."
How long after the "dog search" feature comes online will it be before wearing a MAGA hat triggers a search?
Use your doorbell camera to help "them" look for lost pets!
And help "them" keep track of what your neighbors does, keep a count on who drives by your door on the street, keep a record of what you say out front and just generally help "them" govern you and your actions.
Your neighbors have doorbell cameras too.
There was an episode of "Inside Number 9" (a British TV series each episode a short story) where the 30 minute story was told from the point of a door(bell) camera - how the 'story' is not what you think it is.
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