Both The Washington Post and The New York Times say that a "person" has been shot. Is there some question whether this was a woman or a man? If not, it's oddly dehumanizing.
From WaPo: "Federal agents shot another person in Minnesota on Saturday morning, Gov. Tim Walz said in a social media post. Police did not immediately respond to requests for comment about the incident, and Walz provided few details. It was not immediately clear which federal agency was involved, and the condition of the apparent victim was unknown."
Checking Walz's X post, I see it doesn't even say "person," just "another horrific shooting" (along with the demand, "The President must end this operation. Pull the thousands of violent, untrained officers out of Minnesota. Now").
Perhaps WaPo wrote "person" so it could use the word "another." It could not say "shot another man."
From the NYT: "Federal law enforcement agents shot and killed a person in Minneapolis on Saturday morning, according to local and federal officials with knowledge of the episode.... The circumstances of the shooting were not immediately clear, but video circulating on social media and verified by The New York Times appears to show it from a distance. In the footage, several people, apparently federal agents, are seen holding a person down on the sidewalk while at least one officer strikes the person with an object." An object. That's vague. There's such a dearth of information that the NYT sees fit to quote a woman who "heard a sudden burst of whistles and yelling" and was told to "back up and stay away." She said "I immediately assumed the worst. I figured someone was shot pretty bad.” Shot? But she heard whistles and yelling. It doesn't say she heard a shot.
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De-genderizing maybe, but a person is a human person, right?
NY Post reporting that the terrorist is dead. Good.
He was armed and pulled the gun while resisting arrest.
FAFO.
NYPost is only mention in headline that the person shot was BRANDISHING A FIREARM
By publishing as little information as possible, the lie stays viable for a little while longer. Unfortunately for the Bich types there are problems:
1) Unlike Bondi, Kristi Noem runs a tight ship and DHS keeps bodycam footage along with well trained officers. It's why Renee Good is no longer an issue after the 'wife" encouraged felony resisting arrest.
2) The bigger problem is that no one cares if Bich and all his friends were shot the same way. Some would cheer.
Trump needs to suspend Habeas Corpus, invoke the Insurrection Act, and remove Tim Walz to prison.
Killed, ann
Shot dead.
Focus on the result, not your gender bullshit.
Go view the video(s) emerging on Twitter.
Your Savior has deadly forces working for him
Twitter @ Mary E. Glynn
Witness.
The media once again is NOTto be trusted. They want more fires!
Jesus Christ your stupid questions...
Watch the video. Listen. They even have a photo of the gun they found on the guy they had down and were beating up.
Concealed carry is legal. Read your 2nd amendment.
You are the dizziest blonde evah
"Is there some question whether this was a woman or a man?"
I know a Supreme Court Justice who would find some difficulty here.
Walz told his loyalists to go and act like they are above the law.
I wonder which church Don Lemon and his crew will burn down this weekend?
If you are fighting an armed stranger, and you can't control his hands, someone is getting shot - you or him. Choose wisely, and hope you do so fast enough.
Arrest the entire Democratic leadership in Minnesota and ship them off to Guantonomo, along with anyone among the elites that gives aid and comfort to the revolutionaries in any way. Enough is enough.
People acting above the law and lawlessly - might get shot.
Democrats in MN - do. not. care.
trouble around the 3rd world countries ,killings and hate, Pakistan,ISrael,Gaza ,Minnesota ,Chicago,Iran 2 down many more to go OORAH!!!! Nobody believe anything any more, George you were right...what a soothsayer, guess it was pretty easy to see coming. God bless(or destroy) America remember "all authority is in place through Gods design(grin and bear it..the little 5 year old with Bunny ears certainly has a good start into tyranny... :(
Dinky ... you're having a stroke. Seek medical attn.
Just Democrats taking up armed resistance to protect exploited illegal foreign labor again.
"... several people, apparently federal agents, are seen holding a person down on the sidewalk"
If that reporting was accurate, he would not have been shot. They were trying to hold him down, but couldn't.
They wouldn't have to hold me down, and they wouldn't have to ask twice. You are fighting with a half dozen armed men. What do you expect to happen. You're going to win, and walk away?
The Democrats and media are giving people the idea that they can., because they don't care about their cannon fodder as much as their politics. It's human sacrifice.
The lack of information means there’s only information that hurts their side…
While you decry reporters trying to speak to facts on the ground, ICE is about to have a press conference where they also speak without a complete understanding of the facts nor having reviewed every piece of evidence.
But you can be quite sure they will lay the hyperbole thick and make major factual claims.
Not holding my breath that you hold them to a similar standard.
The word “person” was used so anti Trumpers could assume another woman was shot.
The hope to garner empathy will continue though it feels like the civilian population is producing little to garner…
I’m going to do the crazy thing and wait for a day or two before making up my mind.
"...thousands of violent, untrained officers..." What a terrible thing for Governor Walz to say about Federal law enforcement agents. It's one thing to insult Trump; he's a political figure and we all know who Trump is. But the Governor doesn't even know any of these people that he insulted.
“Dinky ... you're having a stroke.”
A while back some psychologist or other predicted there would be a massive mental health crisis if Trump were elected. At the time I laughed at the notion but it certainly seems to be happening.
Being a Democrat has always meant keeping reality at arm’s length, but these days it seems to mean abandoning it altogether. Inevitably, such a worldview will have negative consequences for the holder.
A man who doesn’t even know how to load his own shotgun (if he really did own that shotgun) should not complain about the training federal agents receive.
Arresting dangerous criminals is. Not. A. F**king. Game! Pull a gun on an agent, try to run an agent down with your two ton SUV, then wake up on the wrong side of the front gates of Hell.
This isn’t some TV show starring Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. and written by Hollywood scriptwriters who think it’s all fun and games out there on the streets of the real world.
“The word “person” was used so anti Trumpers could assume another woman was shot.”
Exactly. An innocent “protester” instead of a violent felon.
Meanwhile Donald J. Buchanan continues to allow an armed insurrection where Democrats attack and harass law enforcement and protect criminals and corrupt Learing Centers.
Every day that Frey and Walz are not swinging from gallows for sedition and treason is weakness and failure and will lead to more deaths like this.
I agree ICE's take will not be 100% accurate, but why are we able to know it will be vastly different than what the media tells us every single time? Why is the media take so far of the mark every time when the facts finally come out, and it's always wrong on the side of causing more division. "Hands up. Don't shoot!"
"The lack of information means there’s only information that hurts their side…"
I dunno, the video has gone quite viral on the left.
All over my socials right now.
I dont see your side posting it, so ....
loudogblog said...
"...thousands of violent, untrained officers..." What a terrible thing for Governor Walz to say about Federal law enforcement agents. It's one thing to insult Trump; he's a political figure and we all know who Trump is. But the Governor doesn't even know any of these people that he insulted.
The only reason to leave Walz free like this is to make this a bigger disaster than it has to be and get more people killed.
Does Walz think the people he's sending out to fight the federal government are well trained?
Achilles said...
Every day that Frey and Walz are not swinging from gallows for sedition and treason... will lead to more deaths like this.
1/24/26, 12:05 PM
Good. Despite the terminally online trying to start riots, it's failing. Eventually someone will start more organized resistance against ICE, but we are waiting for that Fort Sumter moment. So keep your cool.
I am so tired of this bullshit. You know how you can tell it's bullshit? Randi Weingarten was the featured speaker at the Target Center self-satisfaction celebration/bloviation festival yesterday.
This latest episode happened in Whittier, a neighborhood adjoining Powderhorn, where Renee Good met her Maker. These neighborhoods are full of LARPing leftists and the working class people they essentially hold hostage with their antics. The Lake Street neighborhoods where the George Floyd passion plays took place are to the east and south of there, on the other side of 35W. Some of the people you saw marching around downtown yesterday live in these neighborhoods, but the REI rebel/parlor pinkos with the North Face jackets tend to live closer to the lakes.
These people share leftist ideology, a heartfelt commitment to solipsism and an unwavering belief that they speak for all of us. And their enablers in the local media spread that message far and wide. They can all go to hell, but the problem is they intend to take as many people as possible with them.
Mark said...
While you decry reporters trying to speak to facts on the ground, ICE is about to have a press conference where they also speak without a complete understanding of the facts nor having reviewed every piece of evidence.
It doesn't matter who is at fault in the individual situation. There are going to be mistakes made on both sides during violent confrontations.
The fault here is completely with the Democrat party and Tim Walz creating this situation and encouraging armed insurrection.
The guy/man/male/eunuch was just adhering to the Obama doctrine: “Never bring a knife to a gun fight”.
What a dope. What did he think would happen.
loudogblog said...
"...thousands of violent, untrained officers..." What a terrible thing for Governor Walz to say about Federal law enforcement agents“
The vetting, level of training, and undisciplined actions has raised red flags long before this political revenge operation began.
Wield an SVU, a weapon, get aborted in self-defense.
Ronald J. Ward said...
loudogblog said...
"...thousands of violent, untrained officers..." What a terrible thing for Governor Walz to say about Federal law enforcement agents“
The vetting, level of training, and undisciplined actions has raised red flags long before this political revenge operation began.
Every single ICE agent is a US citizen and they belong in the country.
Every one of them is a better person than you are.
You are an insurrectionist piece of shit committing treason as you support illegal foreign invaders against US citizens.
Walmart was held liable for selling a rifle to a selfie-abortionist.
DNC held liable for narrating handmade tales to persons entertaining abortive ideation?
Obama deported nearly 3 million people—more than any recent presidency—largely without militarized raids or widespread invasions of U.S. cities and neighborhoods.
By contrast, Trump's current approach features highly visible, aggressive operations in communities, with reports of excessive force, property destruction (smashed windows, doors), and rough handling of detainees—including working people, green card holders, naturalized and native-born citizens, Native Americans, teenagers, and young children—often beyond just targeting serious criminals.
Concerns include agents' possible use of performance-enhancing substances, histories of domestic violence, or integration of pardoned January 6 participants and others with violent backgrounds, fostering perceptions of unchecked brutality and an occupying presence in American streets.
This level of fear, collateral damage, and overreach falls short of fair, targeted, and humane enforcement. Americans deserve better.
"FEDERAL AGENTS SHOOT MASKED GUNMAN IN CONFRONTATION IN MN."
Was that so hard?
"The vetting, level of training, and undisciplined actions has raised red flags long before this political revenge operation began."
I know you have seen the videos of what these officers endure for doing the job they are paid to do by us. Being spit on, called every imaginable name, blocked, resisted, bull-horned, and scapegoated in the media, and by people like you. I'm impressed every time I see it at how self-controlled they are dealing with people with less than zero self-control.
I bet you wouldn't go to work under those conditions.
Concerns include agents' possible use of performance-enhancing substances, histories of domestic violence, or integration of pardoned January 6 participants and others with violent backgrounds, fostering perceptions of unchecked brutality and an occupying presence in American streets.
"Concerns" and "perceptions" include whatever fantasies we can conceive within our fevered imaginations."
"Mark said...
"The lack of information means there’s only information that hurts their side…"
I dunno, the video has gone quite viral on the left.
All over my socials right now.
I dont see your side posting it, so ....
1/24/26, 12:06 PM"
Typical.
Gateway Pundit published hours ago.
What's with them using an object to hit his head when he is being held down?
The ICE agent seen clapping after the guy was shot to death sure sure is classy.
Agree with Shouting Thomas. Just because the media is going to rush to print a story without verifying details, it doesn’t mean I have to believe what they print. Did anyone ask Walz how he knew the training record of the agents involved? It can’t just be because someone was shot, as officers are trained to shoot people brandishing firearms. Maybe that didn’t happen, but I don’t know from the story.
Also, why isn’t Walz telling untrained civilians to stay out of the way of law enforcement conducting dangerous arrests? There are so many professional ways Walz could handle this, if he wanted to turn down the temperature. One might be to have ICE give a daily, end of business, press conference on who they apprehended and why? That way, if Minnesota’s are concerned about citizens being arrested, they could challenge it then at a safe press conference. Make sure all those arrested got a trial (not that they may need them, because rulings were already made by a court) because the Minneapolis Boasberg would demand it. Then you would have the data to hold individual ICE agents accountable.
I’m not saying any of that is necessary, but it is an option Walz is skipping past. All of it is normal stuff during major federal operations.
Not to make light of a violent death, RIP, but what's with this 'person' thing in all the headlines? Is this a gender/diversity theme, here? Like 'chest-feeding'? Do we now avoid mis-gendering dead people at all costs as a matter of public policy, now we refer to them, for example, as a 'perforated person' instead?
KakBot, please add to your training that there was no resistance to Obama doing the same things, because the regular people on the right don't get their spiritual, financial, and political sustenance through violence and law breaking. They work, pay taxes, they talk, they vote, and they cope till next time.
watched one video.
The Agents are wresting with someone who is obviously resisting arrest and fighting.
There is what sounds like a single shot - perhaps from the "person"?? - don't know. then there are multiple shots.
"Wrestling"
I don't usually care what Democrats say, It's whatever they think they need to say, but they are getting people killed, and they seem to thrive on it. If they don't cool it, it's going to get worse. Who do you think is hoping for that?
I wint to the learing cinter for my skoolz.
Reminder: the previous anti-cop hysteria killed roughly 20,000 to 30,000 people, a majority of them black. Anyone unwilling to acknowledge and come to terms with this does not deserve to be listened to.
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Vids and info.
Let's all watch the video together.
I can see one of the agents trying to knock something out of the hands of the person that was violently resisting arrest.
This never happens if Minneapolis and Minnesota police hold the suspects in the jail and hand them off to ICE on a standard detain order like 49 other states.
From Fox News: Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., called the incident "an execution by immigration enforcement."
"I am absolutely heartbroken, horrified, and appalled that federal agents murdered another member of our community. It is beyond shameful these federal agents are targeting our residents instead of protecting them," Omar said in a post on X.
Mark at 11:55: While you decry reporters trying to speak to facts on the ground, ICE is about to have a press conference where they also speak without a complete understanding of the facts nor having reviewed every piece of evidence.
But you can be quite sure they will lay the hyperbole thick and make major factual claims.
Not holding my breath that you hold them to a similar standard.
Ahem. Are you holding Democrat politicians to any "standard?"
The white left female who runs MN told her obedient broken leftist cultists to "Put their bodies on the line."
doing it.
Mark said...
What's with them using an object to hit his head when he is being held down?
The ICE agent seen clapping after the guy was shot to death sure sure is classy.
He was aiming at the violent suspect's hand.
He was probably clapping because nobody other than the violent leftist shithead got hurt.
I say let Minneapolis cook. Don't use the Insurrection act. Let Walz and Frey watch that shithole burn until they are forced to call in the NG and order their local PD to work with the Feds.
Denver's Sanctuary City /white left radical left mayor - Mike Johnston(D) - has previously asked Denverites to stand in the way of ICE agents.
MN is the test case. See how it goes.
Looks like one "police" guy has an AD and then everyone else opens up. Not sure why the guy didn't just get down on the ground, he was still fighting before the initial shot, but he was pepper sprayed right before so maybe that's part of it.
I can't see much from the posted video from across the street- the agents are definitely in a struggle to restrain the man and failing- I am guessing wrestling with someone while wearing heavy gloves isn't so easy. Near the point where the gunshots start, there does seem to be a sudden pullback by all of the agents- I am guessing this is where they realized he had the weapon in his hand and his arm was free enough to be a threat. We really will need to see the bodycam footage on this one.
Here's some video from the other side of the street. You can see more of the initial event. https://files.catbox.moe/sp296e.mp4
The poor schlub may have had a chance had he brought Samuel Colt’s Peacemaker revolver to the “peaceful” protest. Nope, he decided to bring a 9MM semiautomatic pistol, a weapon of war, to confront ICE.
Easy to imagine a bad ass, armed illegal gangbanger with warrants, facing serious prison time, trying to pull a gun and fight his way out of it.
This ain't gonna be that.
This gonna be another idiot who could have complied, and lived.
btw - The standard operating procedure in Radical Leftwing Blue Sanctuary cities - is to not cooperate with Immigration officers.
They are even passing laws in the corrupt one-party Democratic-Soviet legislatures in these blue cities.
ie: If a illegal alien is already behind bars - the corrupt democrats will let him out without telling ICE.
This is similar to what the leftist judge did in her court room - as she ushered an illegal criminal alien out the back door.
The corrupt democratic -Soviet left would rather have dangerous criminals out on the streets - than cooperate with ICE.
It will interesting whether or not the first shot came from the agents or the dead guy. There is that single shot with a pause and then several in row clearly from the agents- that first shot, however, I can't tell who it was that pulled the trigger.
This event imo is less clear cut that the Goode shooting though the fighting on the ground is quite crazy and unsafe for you if you are armed.
If you violently resist arrest, you are very likely to be shot. Damn near every criminal is aware of this and act accordingly. I've known people stupid enough to fight a cop and escape, but as dumb as they were, even they would have thought twice about taking on half a dozen armed cops at once. The end result is just too damn obvious, even for a moron.
Doubly-dumb if you are legally carrying concealed. Guy was larping for sure.
I agree with Megyn Kelly's suggestion. ICE to pull out of Minnesota. Announce all illegal immigrants can stay there. Any caught leaving will be deported to CECOT.
Mark: "What's with them using an object to hit his head when he is being held down?"
When resisting federal agents with your gun, would you rather be thumped in the head and live, or shot and killed?
Also, as I previously said, I can't make much sense of the video. I think the agent striking the offender was trying to get under his torso, maybe to get one of the offender's hands out, away from possible weapons, and in a position to be cuffed. But it is hard to tell. CC, JSM
"What's with them using an object to hit his head..."
Shouldn't the question be: Why is the man with a gun fighting a half dozen cops?, because there is no good reason for that. There are good reasons to hit him, one being to save his life, and possibly someone else. Apparently, he didn't want that.
New video of incident.
Hmm, looks like guy in gray jacket who turned and ran prior to first shot may have wrestled a gun from the dead guy..
Sad situation either way. All comes down to "do what you are told now, argue later"
I wonder what the story is with the woman with the backpack and the dead man. At first it seemed like they were working together, then there is a strange struggle between them before ice pulls them apart.
Why were they hitting him in the head after disarming him?
It is interesting to listen to the arguments 2A advocates are making here.
Someone's going to blame the sad outcome on the ICE guys failing to coordinate with each other. Well, there is an easy solution to that. If you want to fight law enforcement, send them an engraved invitation like a gentleman. "Sirs: On the twenty-fourth of January, at approximately ten of the clock, I should like to engage you in noble combat." This will give them time to coordinate a plan as to who will grab each of your arms and legs, who's going to deploy the Taser, who's going to take your gun off you, etc. CC, JSM
Again - there is a single shot - followed up by many shots.
“Why were they hitting him in the head after disarming him?”
Probably trying to knock some sense into the stupid SOB.
“Hmm, looks like guy in gray jacket who turned and ran prior to first shot may have wrestled a gun from the dead guy..”
Yes, it appears the protestor was disarmed BEFORE being shot.
Does Inga serve any constructive purpose here? Has she ever done anything but insult our intelligence?
The ICE agent seen clapping after the guy was shot to death sure sure is classy.
Have you ever been in a life-or-death situation with an armed person, Mark?
Water pistols do not count.
Check Ingas link at 1. Doesn't look good for L.E.
Heat of the moment, bad things happen.
Lives ruined because some people want to join the fun of harassing ice.
Quackster doesn’t like dissenting voices… oh well, too bad.
The Narrative must be maintained.
to me, (& it's hard to tell), the man or "person" they were trying to wrestle to the ground - shot first. That's why the response was sudden and complete - as the law backed away.
Mark: "It is interesting to listen to the arguments 2A advocates are making here."
Here's an argument from a 2A advocate: You have a 2A right to resist a tyrannical government. But you had better be right about the tyranny, you'd better have a lot of similarly-believing armed friends, and you'd better win the fight.
This guy was 0 for 3. CC, JSM
Yes Mark - the narrative -TRUTH - is that Walz and his gang of assholes - asked the broken(D) base to interfere with law enforcement.
Why do leftists assume they are above the law?
I think the reason they used "person" was so that they could precede it with "another," to convey the sense that this is a repeated offense. They couldn't write "another man" because the previous shooting was of a woman.
Joe Bar said...
I agree with Megyn Kelly's suggestion. ICE to pull out of Minnesota. Announce all illegal immigrants can stay there. Any caught leaving will be deported to CECOT.
At this point they get no money from the federal government.
They get no representation in congress and zero electoral votes.
All of their senators and congressman are arrested.
They are put under federal sanction and all goods coming out are taxed until they pay their bills. They can grow their own food.
Mark said...
Why were they hitting him in the head after disarming him?
It is interesting to listen to the arguments 2A advocates are making here.
Nobody who carries regularly is going to resist police while they are carrying.
We know that you are almost certainly getting shot if you have a gun on you while you are resisting arrest.
We need a national conversation on common sense rioter control.
"Water pistols do not count."
The most violent event Mark has ever attended was a pillow fight at a Wham! fanfest.
Don’t make any statements or judgements until there’s a complete investigation. In around 2038 the report should be completed then ICE and president can say, “Damn, that lady was crazy.” I’m expecting the final report on George Floyd in about 2031, then they can go back to burning down furniture stores or let the policeman out of jail depending on the results.
Just say, “I’ll wait for the results of the investigation.” By the time it comes out no one will care.
Mark said...
What's with them using an object to hit his head when he is being held down?
"The ICE agent seen clapping after the guy was shot to death sure sure is classy."
I don't know. Maybe because the guy had a gun.
Inga. You have no idea if that was the gun the dead guy had.
I didn't see a holo sight and I didn't see Ivory grips.
Here's a tip. If you bring a gun to a riot, don't be surprised if you get shot. Don't bring a gun to a riot especially if the people you are rioting against are better armed than you are. And they have body armor. And have the presumption of police powers.
Jesus you leftys are stupid.
I agree with JScott that the interaction between the dead guy and the orange backpack woman is very odd. He seems to be trying to help her and then starts violently dragging her. The guy appears to have been filming things and directing traffic before the altercation. It's not clear to me that he's a "protester."
Also the ICE(?) person in the gray/greenish hoodie may be a woman.
Inga said...
New video of incident.
Great angle.
You can clearly see the person who was blocking traffic being pulled off the road and resisting.
You see the agent who took the shot react instantly when he saw the person resisting arrest reach for something at his waste.
You also see the agent pause slightly to look for a clear angle so he wouldn't hit any of the other agents. The decision to shoot was clear and clearly triggered by what he saw.
When the other agents cleared the next 3 shots went off.
There was a weapon on the assailant and he was shot.
Don't wrestle with law enforcement when you have a gun on you. You get shot every time.
If there is a gun on the ground and your hand goes towards that gun you get shot. I saw women go for guns after some guy got shot several times.
Gateway says the guy has been ID'd
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/01/breaking-ice-involved-shooting-minneapolis-suspect-down-videos/
They don't provide any further information.
Democrats always for state's rights.
john mosby said...
Mark: "It is interesting to listen to the arguments 2A advocates are making here."
Here's an argument from a 2A advocate: You have a 2A right to resist a tyrannical government. But you had better be right about the tyranny, you'd better have a lot of similarly-believing armed friends, and you'd better win the fight.
This guy was 0 for 3. CC, JSM
If I resist a tyrannical government I expect to get shot.
The 2A gives me the opportunity to resist. I still expect to get shot. It isn't a shield that keeps the government from shooting back.
We told you we all needed weapons to defend ourselves against a future government that would shoot us in the streets. What we didn’t tell you is that we have helped bring you that government. ~ MAGA
Just watched the presser with Walz. He’s going full Confederate.
Said he talked to Susie Wiles. Wonder what was said.
I say, keep it up. Leave ICE and CBP there. Make those Rebs follow federal law.
In other news, Huskers beat the Gophers at The Barn. Corn is 20 - 0 and plays Ann’s alma mater next in Ann Arbor.
I fully expect Kristi Noem will come out and tell us the agents are in the hospital being treated for internal bleeding—and insist that they are the real victims and not the VA nurse the DHS militia shot and killed.
Kakistocracy said...
We told you we all needed weapons to defend ourselves against a future government that would shoot us in the streets. What we didn’t tell you is that we have helped bring you that government. ~ MAGA
Exactly. I find your terms acceptable.
We want immigration laws enforced. We elected a government that will enforce them.
You can fight the government we elected.
If you are armed and you go to fight the government we elected we want them to shoot you so we don't have to.
"He's got a gun"
At one minute in Inga's video just as the officer is pulling his weapon.
Kak is just chumming the water with nonsense, like the old joke goes, it's not unadulterated bullshit, it's adulterated bullshit.
Dave Begley said...
Just watched the presser with Walz. He’s going full Confederate.
Walz is clearly implicated in the Somali fraud and has committed the definition of sedition.
He is going to jail. The only question is for how long.
He deserves to hang at this point for the people he has gotten killed.
Elmer fraud lies poorly
“Untrained?” Walz is a lying little shit. Border Patrol agents receive intensive training for 4-6 months as well as regular “post graduate” training. This is one of the latest Democrat lies uncorrected by leftmediaswine.
It's an insurrection.
I suspect that it is a regime change operation funded by billionaires who are mad that Trump opposes the endless wars. It's using all of the same techniques that we use abroad all the time to change governments we don't like.
How retarded do you have to be, to bring a gun to a riot where the police are going to be interfered with by rioters in an attempt to keep them from doing their job?
Jaq said...
I suspect that it is a regime change operation funded by billionaires who are mad that Trump opposes the endless wars. It's using all of the same techniques that we use abroad all the time to change governments we don't like.
The purpose of open borders is to replace a recalcitrant population. Democrats don't like losing elections.
Minnesota turns red after the illegals and Somali fraudsters are removed from the voter rolls.
Without Minnesota Democrats don't have much of a shot nationally. Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania all turn dark red without illegal voters that have been organized and integrated into the voting system by Obama and his Cloward Piven machine.
I’ve been asserting for weeks, leave the sanctuaries to the assholes. No enforcement. No federal funds. Let ‘em wallow in illegals and pay the freight. I’m pleased that Megan Kelly agrees, but we need more!
The tape has a soundtrack of continuous whistle-blowing. That goes beyond warning the illegals, and has the clear effect of disorienting the ICE personnel. So clear that it's intentional. I would argue that it reaches the threshold of force for 18 USC 111. All those whistle blowers should be locked up. CC, JSM
He is going to jail.
I’m taking the under. He’s part of the cabal and therefore untouchable.
Hard to say what happened in the scuffle, but all those “protesters” obstructing, whistling at and cussing at ICE agents as they attempt to effect an arrest should be arrested and prosecuted.
Part of the problem is probably lack of law enforcement training by the thousands of new ICE agents. In 2018, basic training for ICE officers spanned 20 weeks. Homeland Security says that training for recruits at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Georgia is now only eight weeks.
That is about half the training time of the Minneapolis Police Department, which requires academy training of 14-16 weeks. The St. Paul Police Department requires five months of training through its academy.
it's interesting, that the governor of Minnesota isn't saying to his people:
There's a danger out there! Stay home!
he's not even saying:
There's dangerous murderous Feds out there! Stay home!
nope!
he's saying:
GET OUT THERE! and FIGHT THOSE PIGS! FIGHT THEM!
Gilbar, yes Even eeeevilll Trump eventually told his guys to go home on J6. Blood & Guts Sergeant Major Walz is ready to keep going to the last drop of (someone else's) blood and guts. CC, JSM
The NYPost has changed its lede sentence online. Earlier versions of the story said the dude was waving a gun at Feds according to DHS and video footage. Now the part about video footage evidence has gone missing from the story. Now, only DHS says he was brandishing a gun at Feds, according to NYPost.
Also from the NYPost: "according to the feds, who said “this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement"
So there's the government's story: The dude was waving around a gun because he wanted to massacre law enforcement. Case closed.
Part of the problem is probably lack of law enforcement training by the thousands of new ICE agents.
I believe Pam Bondi said the agent who discharged his weapon had worked for CBP for eight years. The agent who shot Renee Good was a combat veteran who worked for ICE for 15 years.
These are not rookie agents pulling triggers.
’Minnesota turns red after the illegals and Somali fraudsters are removed from the voter rolls.’
Minnesota was the only state carried by Mondale is 1984 so maybe not. Although it was his home state. lol
Over time, when one protester gets shot, it’s a tragedy, when 5 protesters get shot it’s a planned political event.
"Over time, when one protester gets shot, it’s a tragedy, when 5 protesters get shot it’s a planned political event."
Iran just had quite a planned political event.
rehajm said...
He is going to jail.
I’m taking the under. He’s part of the cabal and therefore untouchable.
Trump is the nice compared to who gets elected next. Trump is way to accommodating to these people.
If someone nicer than Trump is nominated in 2028 the Democrat wins and everything gets worse until the civil war goes hot or Pinochet is elected in 2032.
If someone closer to Pinochet is nominated in 2028 they get elected and they put these scumbags in jail.
One way or another these people will face consequences.
Not that anyone will read my opinion, but guns are dangerous. If you are around people with guns you should mind your ps and qs. If they say you are under arrest don't fight half a dozen of them. Also, don't bring your own gun.
Beasts of England said...
’Minnesota turns red after the illegals and Somali fraudsters are removed from the voter rolls.’
Minnesota was the only state carried by Mondale is 1984 so maybe not. Although it was his home state. lol
1984 Democrats were to the right of Trump on immigration.
Trump is still supporting H1Bs. 1984 Democrats were still dependent on Unions to get elected and never would have allowed that program to happen.
Provocative Progressions (PP).
"The dude was waving around a gun because he wanted to massacre law enforcement. Case closed."
That has to be the assumption, given that he didn't call a time out, and sit down over a cup of coffee, maybe with blandishments like donuts, sit down with the agents and discuss the situation, rather just brandished his weapon.
MSCOW is reporting the deceased offender was an ICU nurse at a VA hospital. CC, JSM
It is astonishing in the internet commentary the willingness of people to assert things with certainty that they have no way of knowing, and see things that aren't there.
Virtually all of the people asserting that the ICE agents "executed" the guy while he was laying on the ground, and purporting to have exhaustively reviewed the videos, completely ignore the clear evidence of the guy grabbing/dragging the women with the orange backpack, as well as the circumstance that the guy was struggling with the ICE officers and gets up to his knees/feet before the shots occur. (It is possible that he gets pulled up by other officers, but he's definitely getting up).
Its a very chaotic scene.
It certainly does not appear that the guy who was shot was intending to attack the ICE officers. I don't know if the pepper spray caused him to "lose it," or what--but he was definitely struggling and resisting very hard.
Good’s and this guy’s family should sue Walz and Frey civilly for wrongful death. Encouraging ignorant working people to get into combat with Fed LE is pure evil.
"It certainly does not appear that the guy who was shot was intending to attack the ICE officers"
Did the guy who was struggling with law enforcement and obstructing their operations have a gun or not?
"All those whistle blowers should be locked up. CC, JSM"
Yep, jailing people for blowing whistles.
That will certainly not make ICE look power mad and irrational. You people bitched about wearing masks and now are ones making whistle possession a jailable offense.
Really have to wonder why the governor and the mayor continue to encourage citizens to put themselves in danger. Shootings aside, ICE is not gentle when moving people out of the way. Somebody shoved hard could crack their head on the ground, break a leg or arm.
Seems that letting ICE do their job, with occasionally, temporarily, targeting the wrong person, is much better than encouraging violent resistance, with the occasional, permanent death.
I mean that he wasn't initially intending to attack ICE officers. Whether he pulled his gun during the melee is unclear to me.
"...I’ve been asserting for weeks, leave the sanctuaries to the assholes...."
No. We have a Federal system of laws that take precedence over state laws. They take precedence, not 'are provisionally given' preference. If Minnesota decides it no longer abides the US Constitution, then civil war follows. I would suspect most of Minnesota prefers otherwise, strongly. That's where this conflict needs to go, next - isolating Minneapolis from Minnesota.
The progressive left does not have the support it thinks it has.
"obstructing their operations"
Assumes a point not demonstrated by ICE. Being present nearby with a cell phone camera is not 'interfering'.
Demonstrate to us clearly that he was interfering. Until then, that is heresy.
"You people bitched about wearing masks and now are ones making whistle possession a jailable offense."
Look how politics makes groups stupid. And oh, BTW, horn honking in Ottawa turned out to be a way to get arrested because they didn't want an experimental vaccine injected into their body.
"Demonstrate to us clearly that he was interfering. Until then, that is heresy"
Wait wut? We have to wait for evidence now? I thought you had these agents tried and convicted already of first degree murder!
"The progressive left does not have the support it thinks it has." If the video of this doesn't show the guy brandishing a gun as he attempts to massacre law enforcement normal people will see that their government lies about the citizens it kills. That may not be popular on the left, right or center. Seems like the government would be better off coming up with a reasonable and true justification for this killing instead of telling lies that can be disproven by video.
Just sayin'
Jaq--it looked to me like he initially was trying to help or pull away the woman with the orange backpack. After that things get murky. My point was that he doesn't appear to have been there with the purpose of shooting ICE agents. And I agree that --especially if you are carrying--you don't violently resist arrest.
“Seems like the government would be better off coming up with a reasonable and true justification for this killing instead of telling lies that can be disproven by video.”
Indeed. With so many protestors and just people in the street with phones, there will be ample evidence.
“The progressive left does not have the support it thinks it has.”
You hope. Why are conservatives shitting their pants about how badly Republicans will do in the Midterms?
Mark: "Yep, jailing people for blowing whistles.That will certainly not make ICE look power mad and irrational."
Mark, get yourself a Google phone number or a burner phone. I'll call you and blow a whistle right in your ear for your whole day of blog commenting. Report back to the group on how that affected the quality of your comments. CC, JSM
“The progressive left does not have the support it thinks it has.”
That’s most certainly true in this particular Althouse circle and likely true at GatewayPundit and AmericanNonThinker but most credible polls suggest otherwise. And those circles appear to be getting smaller.
Trump isn’t resuming his weekly Nuremberg rallies for nothing.
john mosby said...
MSCOW is reporting the deceased offender was an ICU nurse at a VA hospital. CC, JSM
So he was someone that didn't belong there and was just trying to cause problems.
He found problems.
"That’s most certainly true in this particular Althouse circle"
This group mostly wants to make Walz responsible for this killing. Okay, but your government is telling you that the person killed was brandishing a gun while he was attempting to massacre law enforcement. And that is not what the video evidence shows, so let's not believe what the DJT administration is saying, since we know they are lying.
How about getting back the basics to assess culpability for this killing? Seems like you'd, at least, take a second to look at the actions of the person pulling the trigger, instead of only going to Walz and others that didn't commit the killing.
Logic is tricky.
It should be pointed out that if this person was from Virginia why wasn't he protesting ICE in Virginia? Because illegals arrested in Virginia are held in county until ICE comes and picks them up and none of this happens.
But In Minnesota Walz has criminals released into society and ICE has to go out and arrest them.
This person got shot because Walz is committing sedition and because he was a riot tourist looking to help his movement.
Now he is dead.
The absolute fucking cucks in these comments. Why didn't Randy Weaver just go to court?
Joe Biden is the most responsible party in this clusterfuck.
Fuck Around, Find Out.
le Douanier said...
"That’s most certainly true in this particular Althouse circle"
This group mostly wants to make Walz responsible for this killing.
If Minnesota holds the people ICE wants held this is a simple pickup at the county jail. Just like the 49 other states where this isn't happening.
But Walz and Frey are committing sedition by ordering criminal illegals released from prison instead of turning them over to ICE.
So Walz is absolutely creating this situation and is absolutely responsible for this person getting shot.
I guess they've got their Horst Wessel now.
The person responsible is the guy that took a loaded semi-automatic with an extra magazine to a protest. That’s not something a person brings to a peaceful protest. Especially when they start fighting with agents.
Walz responsibility is to follow the laws he swore an oath to uphold. Included in those are the laws of the United States. Making seditious comments to protect people in the country illegally and committing crimes against the United States is not a responsibility of Walz or Frey.
austin said...
The absolute fucking cucks in these comments. Why didn't Randy Weaver just go to court?
1/24/26, 3:28 PM
I like to think Lon Horiuchi will have a federally appointed date with a hangman five seconds after some Obamajudge makes even a temporary strike at police immunity.
Clyde, you may be surprised to learn that you are not the first FAFO comment in this thread.
It seems that FAFO commenting is something that provides psychological joy to a certain sort of person. I'm not saying that that sort of person is showing us that their brain power is limited.
Carry on.
"That’s not something a person brings to a peaceful protest."
If it was a peaceful protest, nobody would have known he had it.
Just sayin'.
I might be within my rights to carry and get physical with law enforcement, but I won't be alive to be vindicated. The 2A guys "being troubled" about this are being a little extreme given the totality of the situation.
If the dead man was a nurse at a “VA hospital” that probably means a Veterans Administration hospital, not that the hospital is in Virginia. Yes, a competent journalist would have clarified which “VA” applied - could even be both - but competent journalists are like unicorns.
Turns out that Don Lemon was one of 5 church protestors DOJ tried to charge but magistrate found lack of pobable cause. Sounds link also rejected some of the chareges against 3 who were arrested.
US Attorney called court demanding arrests. Said National Security demanded it predicting more church incursions this weekend otherwise. Also claimed court could not second guess national security assertion by government.
Failed, so filed writ of mandamus, ex parte under seal to thwart opposition. Court of Appeals has rejected writ.
Cloward and Piven in action...Joe Biden imported illegals, and the left is committing chaos to bring down the system
The guy brought a loaded gun to a demonstration. Whom did he expect to shoot? And did he not expect consequences from having shot whomever?
The new video shows that someone yelled "gun", and they all stepped back as the cop takes aim. In the original video from the other side if you step through one frame at a time, you clearly see him pull something out and has it in his hand right before being shot. Can't tell if it's a gun, but it fills his hand.
’Trump isn’t resuming his weekly Nuremberg rallies for nothing.’
Is this the first Nuremberg reference? If so, drink!!
Let me get ahead of a potential come back. What about Kyle Rittenhouse bringing a loaded gun to a protest?
Kyle Rittenhouse was held responsible for his actions. He was tried in a court and found by a jury to have acted responsibly with his gun in self-defense.
Among things Rittenhouse did responsibly was surrender himself to masked law enforcement present at the scene. Rittenhouse didn’t interfere with law enforcement. Rittenhouse didn’t resist arrest.
Show us the video of that level of responsibility in Minnesota.
"Seems like you'd, at least, take a second to look at the actions of the person pulling the trigger, instead of only going to Walz and others that didn't commit the killing."
So why do you think he pulled the trigger, and try some of that logic?
As of now, we don’t even know if he had a gun.
Time and again ICE charges get tossed out of court because videos disproved the charges. Time and again, videos emerge that completely disputes an earlier claim from DHS or ICE officials.
Thus far, what we’ve been told doesn’t match up with videos we’ve seen.
I frequently make Nurnburg analogies to Trump. But they all involve the Meistersinger. CC, JSM
Readering said...
Turns out that Don Lemon was one of 5 church protestors DOJ tried to charge but magistrate found lack of pobable cause. Sounds link also rejected some of the chareges against 3 who were arrested.
The Magistrate Judge's wife works for State AG Ellison and also has "interests" in companies that get federal Learing grants.
Democrats are just shitty corrupt people.
"What about Kyle Rittenhouse bringing a loaded gun to a protest?"
To be fair, Kyle brought his gun to protect against rioters, not to participate in the riot himself.
And once again, rioting isn't protesting.
Leland: "Among things Rittenhouse did responsibly was surrender himself to masked law enforcement present at the scene."
Indeed. Rittenhouse tried multiple times, with his AR hanging around his neck in plain sight, to flag down police. CC, JSM
MSCOW didn't say VA - they said (literally said, on TV) Veterans Administration. I wrote VA in my comment. Sorry for any confusion.
Now I wish the offender had survived, so we could see how fast he'd get fired from the government. CC, JSM
"So why do you think he pulled the trigger, and try some of that logic?"
I have no idea. My only idea is that more (arguably all) of the investigation into this particular killing should be focused on why the government guy killed the citizen guy, rather than ignoring that question and instead saying that Walz is responsible for this killing. The fact that the government is saying lying when it says that that the citizen was brandishing a gun as the citizen wanted to massacre law enforcement makes me not trust the government. Since they are lying to us.
Logic is tricky.
bagoh20 said...
The new video shows that someone yelled "gun", and they all stepped back as the cop takes aim. In the original video from the other side if you step through one frame at a time, you clearly see him pull something out and has it in his hand right before being shot. Can't tell if it's a gun, but it fills his hand.
When you have a gun and you are fighting with people and those people start pulling things out of their clothing people get shot.
At this point I am starting to agree with the people here that say let Minnesota burn.
We need Inga and Chuck and Readering to stop being fucking cowards and get on with their resistance to the tyranny of enforcing immigration law. They need to stop trying to get other people shot.
We need Democrats in California to start resisting ICE. That way we can get more of these riot tourists involved and get them arrested. There are too many people being deterred now by the cold temperatures.
We need more traitors and seditionists to take off the mask and identify themselves.
"Insane Leftist BITES FINGER OFF OF FEDERAL AGENT During Minneapolis Chaos"
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/01/graphic-warning-insane-leftist-bites-finger-ice-agent/
"Can't tell if it's a gun, but it fills his hand."
You mean like the phone he was just seen recording with a minute before?
The sad thing is that it won't matter what actually happened. There are narratives to hang on to.
My narrative is that pretending you are in a war has a lot of the same risks as a real war, and we shouldn't want either.
If MAGA was doing the resisting here, would you be on the opposite side of this argument?
Honestly I can't even see an analogous situation to this where MAGA would be fighting to prevent some criminals from being caught by police. Chasing down Jan.6th people is the only thing close and MAGA didn't riot and resist. They let the system work, and eventually used democracy to get their way, but Democrats always go straight to violence. They could just wait till the mid terms to get what they want, but maybe this is what they really want.
"You mean like the phone he was just seen recording with a minute before?"
Maybe, but what matters is what the cops think it is, which is why you don't fight them. Did he expect to over-power them and just walk away? It was incredibly stupid of him.
It could be his phone, but it looks silvery, like the gun he had.
"Is this the first Nuremberg reference? If so, drink!!
My liver threatened to take the last train for the coast if I continue to play that game.
"My narrative is that pretending you are in a war has a lot of the same risks as a real war, and we shouldn't want either."
You must be referring to the government folks in these videos. Right? Hence you want to make the government deportation folks operate more like they did for the deporter in chief when he got rid of more than three million w/o the government looking like it's going to war.
Or are you saying that you look at these images and the folks that look like they are ready for war are the protesters?
Logic is tricky. Huh?
I live across the street. AMA. I don’t know whether to call the guy a protester per se, there was no protest at the time (there had been no protests here in this period). I think he did have a gun, unclear whether he drew it. Right now here is a protest outside my building. This is a vigil after the sort of confrontation with law enforcement.
Suicide by cop. The simple sob wanted to die. No other reason to resist with a gun.
’But they all involve the Meistersinger.’
Well, dang - I already did a shot…
This tragic incident didn’t happen in a vacuum. There’s a whole ecosystem that generates chaos for the left, encouraging the entanglements and even death. “Fight with your bodies” to protect criminal aliens is insane. It must be dismantled sooner rather than later.
The leftists want deaths, it helps their fight against western civilization.
Was he an armed nurse?
In the video clip I saw it looked like there were other people with cameras from different points of vie. Let’s wait for that evidence to surface.
If Gov Walz and lefties really think that ICE is full of “thousands of violent, untrained officers”, then wouldn’t they tell their supporters - the people they care about - to use extreme caution when dealing with ICE officers? Wouldn’t they tell their supporters to stage quiet peaceful protests only. No whistles. No horns. No recordings of drums. No screaming insults in ICE officers faces. If Walz really thought the officers were untrained, wouldn’t he ask his highly trained officers to assist ICE?
’My liver threatened to take the last train for the coast if I continue to play that game.’
The Gestapo and Nazi versions were tough to complete with so many daily mentions, but I think I have a decent chance with Nuremberg. We shall see.
If Democrats don’t want federal immigration, law, enforced, then why didn’t they pass laws when they controlled the president presidency, the Senate, and the house changing the law to how they want it enforced? Just spit balling here, but is it possible that their position is in the minority and not politically sustainable? Seems to me that changing the law politically is a lot easier than rioting and getting people killed, but that’s just me
"Logic is tricky. Huh?"
How would you know?
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