"His usurpation of law enforcement power threatens us all.... His move to control investigation and prosecution from the White House portends an America where the state uses force to promote the political interests of its leaders, rather than uphold the laws passed by our representatives. One year into his second term, America risks losing a central feature of our democracy: that we are a country ruled by laws, not by one man.... The Justice Department was hardly perfect before Mr. Trump took the oath of office a year ago. Still, between Richard Nixon’s resignation in disgrace and Mr. Trump’s second term, the department under both political parties took steps to remain independent from the White House so that Americans could have confidence that federal law enforcement was nonpartisan. If the government investigated somebody — or decided not to — the reasonable assumption was that it was on the merits. That assumption is in tatters.... The Minnesota fraud is real, and the people who perpetrated it deserve to face charges.... But Mr. Trump’s interest in fraud is selective...."
Writes The Editorial Board of The New York Times, in "For Trump, Justice Means Vengeance."
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" ...... an America where the state uses force to promote the political interests of its leaders, rather than uphold the laws passed by our representatives." - Great, now do immigration law enforcement.
That it were so....
Everything Trump has suffered at the hands of Democrat prosecutors, judges, and legislators has been vengeance for defeating Hillary Clinton.
Everything.
say the people that cheered fidel's firing squad, to the proscription of Trump supporters,
sometimes I don't know when they are doing standup, they can't be serious can they,
it is the holy script from Carlos Slims sublet
More gaslighting from the NYT's. Why wasn't the attempt to jail trump labeled as "Revenge" or "Partisan payback". Leftists are already planning to destroy Trump by Lawfare in 2029.
And what happened to "No one is above the law"? Guess that comes and goes based on who the NYT's and MSM dislike.
Yes, we long for the good old days when the Obama/Biden DOJs would hide their use of law enforcement for vengeance. Although, to be fair, they hid their use of law enforcement to destroy political opponents. It wasn't revenge, it was proactive. What incentive do people bent on political lawfare have to cease and desist, if not for the real threat of REVENGE?
"The Minnesota fraud is real, and the people who perpetrated it deserve to face charges.... But Mr. Trump’s interest in fraud is selective...."
Yeah and so is the NYTs. LOL. But nice try. "Sure we're against fraud and going after Democrats who do it, BUT.....
If the government investigated somebody — or decided not to — the reasonable assumption was that it was on the merits.
Funnier than lame SNL sketches. If somebody isn't investigated an equally reasonable assumption is that they are above the law and too powerful to be challenged.
And what is justice? If the statute of limitations has expired an offender gets away scot-free. That is the law, but is it justice? And is investigating them pure vengeance or the closest one can get to justice given the circumstances?
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. NYT says they don't like lawfare.
i remember This One Time;
when Trump ran for DA or such, and SWORE; that IF Elected,
he'd "find Some Trumped Up Charge" to attack an enemy with
This Other Time,
Trump changed the statute of limitations so that he could attack an enemy
This OTHER Other Time,
Trump Swore, under Oath; that "some time in the past",
(he wasn't sure of when (or EVEN what decade))
his enemy had RAPED him, in public; in front of an entire store.
This OTHER Other Other Time,
Trump wiretapped his enemy's hotel, and PAID "experts" to claim that it was normal to do that
This OOOOther Time, Trump removed SS protection from his enemy,
and THEN used a FBI trained assassin to try to KILL Trump's enemy
There are Lots more, but my fingers are getting tired typing OTHER
I appreciate Ann's clipping the NYT section, as I do not subscribe to the NYT. Been almost 30 years since I gave them my money.
Wish some Our Hostess commentary about the headline/clipped section/article would have been included.
Oh well, beggars can't be choosers.
"His usurpation of law enforcement power threatens us all.... His move to control investigation and prosecution from the White House portends an America where the state uses force to promote the political interests of its leaders"
Agree. So let's do something about it. Let's acknowledge that the Democrats did all this to Trump, then we can unite to say neither side should do it. Decent people should be able to agree on this.
But,
"The Justice Department ... under both political parties took steps to remain independent from the White House so that Americans could have confidence that federal law enforcement was nonpartisan."
Oh well. The NYT isn't decent enough to take the decent path here. The NYT can't even bring itself to acknowledge some of the most egregious political prosecutions by the Democrats. Their argument would carry some weight if they did.
of course michael cohen just admitted he testalied to alvin bragg, in return for a reduced sentence
the fulton tent pole of the Smith Case, was proven fraudulent,
yes dread pirate smith, like the hanging ayatollah khalkali
It's for their readers.
I guess Althouse, like with the AWFL epitaph, never heard of Artic Frost, Jack Smith, FACE Cases, J6 “illegal parading” cases or all the other abuses of the DOJ by the Democrats to destroy their political enemies.
holder wingman who was jack smith, and weissman, who practiced proscription of bob mcdonnell,
The implied premise that an organization which is independent of the White House is ipso facto nonpartisan will not withstand much scrutiny.
* epithet
a very earnest figure like kenneth starr, was savaged, the prosecution of ed meese, was celebrated,
Fuck the NY Times. They cheered when Biden was riffling through Melania's underwear drawer.
I hope he arrests the entire staff of the NY Times and doesn't give them a trial.
If Buster Keaton was still alive, and worked at the NYT, and was assigned this story, he would not have been able to keep a straight face while he was writing it.
every once in a while, someone like a sydney schanberg, does some valuable work, re Cambodia, of course they blamed Nixon for the Killing Field, as they blamed Bush for the rise of the Islamic State,
’…the department under both political parties took steps to remain independent from the White House.’
Bobby Kennedy to the white courtesy phone.
Eric ‘Wingman’ Holder on line two.
The problem the NYT has is the egregious nature of the fraud and corruption in government, beyond denial, beyond dispute, beyond parody, beyond anything other than prosecution. The defenestration under DOGE of the USAID organized corruption is conveniently forgotten. The outrageous abuse of grant money to colleges, with up to half going to "administration" of the grant, i.e., funding leftist activism, rather than advancing the purpose of the grant, is conveniently forgotten. The recent Hegseth announcement of SBA/PEntagon procurement programs of which simply funnel money through shell companies to Beltway Bandit contracting firms is conveniently forgotten. And so on and so on. Prosecute and let the criminals defend themselves in real courts, as the court of public opinion has already seen enough to send them all to jail.
NYT is Pro-Choice.
Democrats never hide it either, but the media doesn't call it vengeance when Democrats do it.
“Still, between Richard Nixon’s resignation in disgrace and Mr. Trump’s second term, the department under both political parties took steps to remain independent from the White House so that Americans could have confidence that federal law enforcement was nonpartisan.“
This quote invalidates everything that came before. One only need look at the Russia Hiax which started under Obama and the actions of the Biden administration.
Not mentioned are the Democrats use of lawfare when they are out office through special prosecutors - see Iran-Contra and Scooter Libby.
The Democrats should thank their lucky stars that the Trump DOJ has been so hamfisted in its attempts at lawfare.
tranalation possums have reneged confirming halligan and habba and essayli,
’But Mr. Trump’s interest in fraud is selective...’
Really? I’m unaware of any greater or more obvious fraud than in Minnesota. He would be derelict of his fiduciary duty not to investigate and prosecute those abuses.
Justice may not be blind, but the New York Times certainly is.
as Taranto reminds us, the times do not read their own paper
Agree. So let's do something about it. Let's acknowledge that the Democrats did all this to Trump, then we can unite to say neither side should do it. Decent people should be able to agree on this.
What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated. To claim "both sides do it" is ridiculous to the extreme.
"Really? I’m unaware of any greater or more obvious fraud than in Minnesota."
That's because you haven't heard about what's happening in California, Massachusetts, Washington, Maine, Oregon, Colorado, Illinois, Wisconsin ... Give it time, there's plenty more fraud to go around. Trump says that if it weren't for fraud, we would have a balanced budget. Ponder on that for a while.
’What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated.’
Mar-a-Lago.
Sounds like Trump is actually draining a little bit of the swamp.
Fuck the NYT Editorial Board. Right where they sit… on their FAT, HYPOCRITICAL ASSES.
“What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated.”
Laughable… at best.
’That's because you haven't heard about what's happening in California, Massachusetts, Washington, Maine, Oregon, Colorado, Illinois, Wisconsin…’
That’s a fair point. My comment was less than precise. And while I don’t know the details, re: those states, it wouldn’t surprise me.
Fuck the NYT about their lawfare and vengeance.
These are same people along with Bill Keller that tried to glorify Mike Nifong...
"What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated."
Nonsense. The entire Democrat Party routinely politicizes law enforcement and attacks law enforcement as "fascist" and "racist", calling the police "slave patrols".
Sanctuary Cities, abusing Asylum laws to import criminal gangs into immigrant neighborhoods, Defund the Police, Black Lives Matter, No Bail releasing predators back into the streets, Cops are Slave Patrols, and other radical anti-law enforcement political positions that have undermined the rule of law and law enforcement itself at all levels and gotten thousands of people raped, beaten and killed.
You're right, both sides don't do that. Only Democrats have shit all over law enforcement that much.
when allen drury wrote his tales in the 70s, and mcarry in the 80s I though they were exaggerated
More proof (as if it’s needed at this point) that open and unapologetic hypocrisy is The Left’s one true superpower. Democrats spent most of the last two decades weaponizing law enforcement and other Gov’t agencies to go after their political opponents, and the moment their new rules are used against them they cry that it’s an unprecedented threat to the Republic. Eff the NY Times.
What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated.
Is he serious?
What is Trump seeking revenge for? How independent was Garland from the Biden White House?
The Democrat Party has spent the entire last decade politicizing and undermining the rule of law just trying to jail Donald Trump alone, but do go on about how bad Trump is.
Althouse should have a "Rule of Law Bullshit" tag.
Regular reading of the NYT could turn you AWFL.
There was plenty of fraud investigated in Minnesota by the Biden administration (I linked to Bill Shipley aka Shipwreckedcrew's explainer on it several times). I say this not in defense of the NYT but to point out the investigations conveniently stopped early in 2024 and appear to have avoided any potentially embarrassing (for Democrats) questions about how far into state government the fraud penetrated. Is restarting that investigation an example of retribution? Stopping them certainly seems to have been designed to the Democrats a win-win of either avoiding embarrassment of the potential VP or easy talking points such as the NYT is providing.
Do you think there might be some fraud in DC? Like, about 80% of the economy?
There was plenty of fraud investigated in Minnesota by the Biden administration
That's the thing that makes the choice of Tim Walz, of all people, as VP candidate so mystifying. I concluded awhile back that it must just have been that he was the only one who didn't run screaming away from the prospect.
well we saw in the doge surveys, which the times has minimized the import of,
So the guy who was prosecuted under a fresh interpretation of a 100 year old law, in a victimless 'crime,' for claiming that his club in Palm Beach was worth more than a single family home there, one with less property, BTW, is the one using the law to go after is enemies? Fining hime hundreds of millions of dollars over it? Lol, I am waiting with bated breath, for the NYT expose on that shit. show abuse of power—No, I am not, I am not going to asphyxiate myself waiting for fair treatment for Trump from the main stream media.
and the subsequent recisssions,
’Is he serious?’
It’s jabberwocky all the way down.
"What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated. To claim "both sides do it" is ridiculous to the extreme."
Fredo is reborn every single morning. Just every single one.
California.
"If the government investigated somebody — or decided not to — the reasonable assumption was that it was on the merits."
Ok- that's comedy gold right there.
SGT Ted said...
“The Democrat Party has spent the entire last decade politicizing and undermining the rule of law just trying to jail Donald Trump alone, but do go on about how bad Trump is.“
Add that to my list when Jaq says I’m easily media manipulated. People here don’t even believe Trump ever broke the law.
Is Trump Sulla or Marius or even Caesar?
I don’t have access to the article, so I asked ChatGPT to characterize it for me.
“ The article relies on interpretive framing rather than explicit statements.”
In other words, they’re reading Trump’s mind again. As so many have pointed at here in the past.
P.S. I propose a new tag. Interpretive Framing.
"In other words, they’re reading Trump’s mind again."
More like "Making up shit again."
The core problem is that justice, in order to be a worthy goal, not only has to be rational, fair, proportionate and efficient, it must also be PERCEIVED by a substantial majority as rational, just, proportionate and efficient. That central criterion is not on anybody's menu.
Nobody gets to write the menu. Fate hands it to us and laughs.
"People here don’t even believe Trump ever broke the law. "
Based on the fake real estate fraud case using the law in a way never before used on anyone else, he most likely didn't and will have the conviction tossed on appeal. The punishment already has been thrown out.
The bullshit "classified" documents FBI raid where they staged fake classified documents covers for photographs so they could leak it to the media. Where Jack Smith never brought any charges when it could have gone to court in a timely manner, but now conveniently says the evidence is conclusive.
The sham impeachments abusing secret hearings by the Democrat Party controlled intelligence committee to then leak one sided secret testimony to the press, more politicization of the law. Where Adam Schiff lied about having "conclusive evidence" of Russian collusion, which of course didn't exist when he was put under oath. Adam Schiff had to be preemptively pardoned to avoid prosecution for this abuse of power.
Then trying to use that bullshit to keep him off election ballots.
The J6 committee fabricating evidence and being in and of itself an illegally constituted committee, so much so, Joe Biden had to pardon them all for them to avoid prosecution.
But, do go on about Trumps "criminality".
I've been an observer of politics since the 1970's, and I have never heard of anything more laughably, ridiculously hypocritical as leftists bitching about Trump misusing the powers of government for political vendettas.
" it must also be PERCEIVED by a substantial majority as rational, just, proportionate and efficient. "
That's not possible for millions as long as Trump, or any Republican, is in charge. Their perception of the truth is THE problem with all problems. How do you fix that? If Trump endorsed Gavin Newsom for President, they would start calling him "Hairdo Hitler". They are simply nuts. I know that seems unreasonably dismissive to people trying to sit on the fence despite the pain, but the proof is all over the place daily. You can ignore that so you don't get labeled with those scary labels they have, but it's time to put on the big boy pants and accept the truth and speak it. What are you without that?
cue the gene wilder gif from willy wonka,
NYT: "For Trump, Justice Means Vengeance."
No one knows what it's like to be the bad man
To be the sad man behind Trump's eyes
No one knows what it's like to be hated
To be fated, to fighting leftie lies
But my dreams, they aren't as empty
As your conscience seems to be
I have hours, only lonely
My love is vengeance that's never free
No one knows what it's like to feel these feelings
Like I do and I blame you
No one bites back as hard on their anger
None of my pain and woe can show through
When my fist clenches, crack it open
Before I use it and lose my cool
When I smile, tell me some bad news
Before I laugh and act like a fool
And if I swallow anything evil
Put your finger down my throat
And if I shiver, please give me a blanket
Keep me warm, let me wear your coat
No one knows what it's like to be the bad man
To be the sad man behind Trump's eyes
CC, JSM
david samuels, called him the demon emperor, willing to do what others will not,
Christopher B: " the investigations conveniently stopped early in 2024 and appear to have avoided any potentially embarrassing (for Democrats) questions about how far into state government the fraud penetrated."
Sounds kind of like the 2008 Blagojevich case over the alleged selling of Obama's Senate seat. Conveniently wound up before anyone could ask embarrassing questions about....CC, JSM
"Man in Minneapolis being confronted and labeled a “Nazi” over alleged support for ICE before being assaulted and knocked out. Moments later, someone in the crowd shouts “he’s one of us,” appearing to realize they attacked one of their own."
Lovely people.
https://x.com/i/status/2012686219290005941
Jupiter: "Trump says that if it weren't for fraud, we would have a balanced budget."
Reagan used to say similar. Of course in 1980 that would have meant more stubby-pencil work than it was worth. Now the technology allows for it. CC, JSM
Iman: "Fuck the NYT Editorial Board. Right where they sit… on their FAT, HYPOCRITICAL ASSES."
Now that's a job Americans won't do! CC, JSM
So the guy who was prosecuted under a fresh interpretation of a 100 year old law, in a victimless 'crime,' for claiming that his club in Palm Beach was worth more than a single family home there, one with less property, BTW, is the one using the law to go after is enemies?
It's even worse than that. Fat Tish convinced the jury that anyone using anything other than the county assessor's valuation of a property for collateral was committing a felony. Which means essentially 100% of the people in America who have ever bought real estate are felons.
Ward or Kakistophage, have you ever compared your property tax bill the year you bought your house with what you told the bank it was worth when you bought it?
When worried Democrat big shots in New York complained about this radical new interpretation of the law to Governor Hochul, she told them openly not to worry, they were explicitly using it as a tool to go after Trump only, and everyone else would be safe. (As long as they kept paying ransom to the Democrats was the unspoken threat, of course.)
This is tyrannical political Calvinball on a scale never before seen in our country. Everyone involved in this is an enemy, not a fellow American, and deserves to have Trump use any tool he can to destroy them and remove them from power.
I'd rather fight a bloody civil war than live under the rule of tyrannical scum and filth like this, and I expect it's coming sooner or later.
This is tone deaf, incendiary politics coming from the mouth organ of the corrupt globalist led left. Fuck you NYT…
Looks like a nerve was struck up in here and the magas are melting. Yikes RULE 62 breathe deep , its the Lord's day. My goodness Madge did you ever see such a sight?
What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated. To claim "both sides do it" is ridiculous to the extreme.
Arrant horse shit, even by Frederson's low standards. Nothing in our nation's history can compare to what the Democrats have done ever since Obama sicced the IRS on the Tea Party fifteen years ago.
The Democrat Party is a racketeering conspiracy to shame all the Mafia dons who ever lived, and the #1 enemy of civilization. Total warfare until their complete destruction is the only option.
@Jamie, I think Holder et al doing the vetting on Walz were pretty sure they could use the "that's old news" defense if anybody tried to tag him with it as well as there being no publicly available evidence connecting him to the fraud. Almost makes you think somebody planned it that way.
“Looks like a nerve was struck up in here and the magas are melting.”
Too much truth.
"... magas are melting..."
Have you seen Minneapolis? And that's in sub freezing weather!
Trump was shot. No riots.
Charley Kirk was murdered. No riots.
MAGA doesn't melt. It's not in the throws of mental illness. MAGA is the normality people like Althouse said they wanted.
Making America Great Again means returning to reason, not self-destruction.
If you want to be persuasive, it helps to occasionally ask yourself it is at all possible that you might be wrong, if you have never done that, you are almost certainly wrong. If you did do it, and then after reflection told yourself, "I can't be wrong, because all of my friends believe it, and everybody I trust believes it..." that doesn't count.
Plainly a lot of our liberal friends here find it impossible to answer objections with facts and logic, probably because they were not reasoned into their position in the first place and they don't even understand why anybody would question the New York Times, or any of the other billionaire owned media properties which pass on to them "the truth."
I think that many of them are genuinely puzzled that anybody would suggest that they are not using facts and logic.
Democrats using criminal law as vengeance didn't start with Biden. It started long before then. Even before Obama's Crossfire Hurricane. I still remember an insignificant Travis County DA prosecuting Rick Perry for using his veto power as authorized by the Texas Constitution. Perry got an awesome booking photo from it too.
Well bless your heart, NYT.
What's a lot of crime amongst our Minneapolis friends? All's well so long as we've got the immigrant scammer vote, the illegal migrant gangbanger vote, and the AWFLs and Antifa vote, small price to pay.
Local democratic leadership protests weekly outside our Walgreens, fearmongering that ICE will arrive soon to snatch our recently-arrived illegal migrants from their manual labor jobs and side-activities, while our small Wisconsin city's progressive-liberal city hall goes full Fidel Castro dictatorship on us little peasants.
’…probably because they were not reasoned into their position in the first place.’
It’s worse than that. There’s no objective truth for them: it’s Democrat right and Republican wrong. Look no further back than Bill Clinton on immigration:
Every day, illegal aliens show up in court who are charged. Some are guilty, and surely, some are innocent. Some go to jail, and some don't. But they're all illegal aliens, and whether they're innocent or guilty of the crime they're charged with in court, they're still here illegally and they should be sent out of the country.
And now leftists are actively impeding the enforcement of our laws. How can it be anything other than mass formation psychosis? But we’re in a cult. lol
Couldn't "vengeance" be a defense for the man who shot Trump's ear off?
I can hear it now: 'Your honer, I don't accept the legitimacy of this vengeful prosecution.'
It's all about TDS folks... their hate for Trump knows no bounds.
The people who work for the New York Times are the biggest pack of lying shits on the face of the earth. They make the old Pravda look like responsible journalists by comparison.
Editorial writers are like congressional leaders. You know exactly what they are going to say and it never deviates from the party line, so it's best to just ignore them.
Is every prosecution for 4 years "vengeance"? If not, how do we decide if they are or not, and what do we do about the ones that could look like it? If it looks like it could be vengeance, but there is credible evidence of a crime, we do what?
they are just the promoted hacks,
Freder Fredersen said...
What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated. To claim "both sides do it" is ridiculous to the extreme.
With all due respect, that's the most retarded thing I've read so far this year.
The cases that could look like vengeance are the very ones many of us want prosecuted most, and the ones the right is bitching about not seeing action on.
No Democrat with any power has been charged or arrested despite ample evidence of serious crimes. Far more serious than anything Trump was charged with, and more serous than what Nixon resigned over. Trump has been charged, prosecuted and even convicted, and hundreds of his supporters and a few advisors have gone to jail. Tell me more about this thing called politicization.
like with friedman, who got the elements of the shatila massacre wrong, including some of the perpetrators, which he corrected in his book,
"Tell me more about this thing called politicization."
It's (D)ifferent when (D)emocrats do it.
"The Justice Department was hardly perfect before Mr. Trump took the oath of office a year ago."
That sentence is papering over, whitewashing a lot. Really.
There is no point arguing with traitors.
They bring in foreign soldiers, pay them money they took from us, and attack federal law enforcement who enforce the laws we want enforced.
They will never be persuaded or reasoned with.
They can only be defeated.
bagoh20 said...
"... magas are melting..."
Have you seen Minneapolis? And that's in sub freezing weather!
Trump was shot. No riots.
Charley Kirk was murdered. No riots.
MAGA doesn't melt. It's not in the throws of mental illness. MAGA is the normality people like Althouse said they wanted.
Making America Great Again means returning to reason, not self-destruction.
Ann says she wants one thing, but really wants something else.
The NyTimes democrat propaganda arm can shove it.
Ronald J. Ward said...
Add that to my list when Jaq says I’m easily media manipulated. People here don’t even believe Trump ever broke the law.
You have never posted the actual laws that Trump broke.
I challenge you again to post what laws Trump broke.
Cite them right here you fucking coward.
"Ann says she wants one thing, but really wants something else."
I'm well aware of our host's gender and it's defining traits.
We gonna make Igna lose her mind
Up in here, up in here
Too late… her mind was DOA.
I still can't tell if the NY Times thinks no one should be above the law, or if it thinks some people should be above the law, sometimes, under some circumstances.
The law, itself, seems to be a bystander.
Here is a question for Grok: "Is there any grammatical difference between "all the news that's fit to print" and "all the news we see fit to print."
How could they write that shite with a straight face?
Let's this high end lie go without comment, what's with our hostess? "Still, between Richard Nixon’s resignation in disgrace and Mr. Trump’s second term, the department under both political parties took steps to remain independent from the White House so that Americans could have confidence that federal law enforcement was nonpartisan"
Well, I guess I can understand, as seemingly her only contact with the "outside world" is her houseboy, grok and any number pathetic far left outlets.
The Justice Department was hardly perfect before Mr. Trump took the oath of office a year ago.
I must've missed their editorial criticizing it back then. And the presidents who abused it.
What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated. - Freder
Just when I think you can't have your head any further up your ass ....
as we discovered from sources as varied as renata adler, re sirica, and geoffrey shepherd, as well as my friend clarice,
who was appelate counsel in a small part of the watergate
witchhunt, they were playing lawfare even that far back
Dunno why I didn't think of this one hours ago:
To defend
This is the pact
But when life's scorned
And damage done
To avenge
This is the pact
CC, JSM
Under Obama 56 people died in ICE custody.
Not a peep about it.
narciso said...
as we discovered from sources as varied as renata adler, re sirica, and geoffrey shepherd, as well as my friend clarice,
who was appelate counsel in a small part of the watergate
witchhunt, they were playing lawfare even that far back
1/18/26, 6:07 PM
This is a reminder that lawfare didn't work on President Trump. There was also an assassination attempt, likely related to that failure. And Joe Biden's resignation shortly thereafter, also totally unrelated.
"His usurpation of law enforcement power threatens us all....
You mean the way Eric Holder, Obama's self identified "wingman", used the power of the Federal gov't against Obama's enemies?
You mean the way Obama weaponized the IRS against the Tea Party?
His move to control investigation and prosecution from the White House portends an America where the state uses force to promote the political interests of its leaders, rather than uphold the laws passed by our representatives
You mean like the way the "Biden" White House & DoJ went after Trump, the mostly peaceful J6 protesters, and the entirely peaceful abortion protesters?
One year into his second term, America risks losing a central feature of our democracy: that we are a country ruled by laws, not by one man....
Oh, you mean like individual District judges who ignore the law to order the President to do things they have no p[ower to order?
There is an actual assault on our democracy, and teh NYT is entirely behind it.
The Justice Department was hardly perfect before Mr. Trump took the oath of office a year ago. Still, between Richard Nixon’s resignation in disgrace and Mr. Trump’s second term, the department under both political parties took steps to remain independent from the White House so that Americans could have confidence that federal law enforcement was nonpartisan.
You mean like with Eric Holder being Obama's "wingman"?
The writers of that article can't actually be that stupid / ignorant, can they?
If the government investigated somebody — or decided not to — the reasonable assumption was that it was on the merits
Not when the case had ANY political or "Racial" nature. See" Obama DoJ dropping charges against the New Black Panthers for their election intimidation
The Minnesota fraud is real, and the people who perpetrated it deserve to face charges.... But Mr. Trump’s interest in fraud is selective...."
As opposed to the Democrats, who just want to support fraud whenever it occurs
Freder Frederson said...
What Trump has done is politicize law enforcement way past anything that the Biden Administration even contemplated. To claim "both sides do it" is ridiculous to the extreme.
It is ridiculous to the extreme to pretend that Trump has even come CLOSE to the corruption and bias of the Obama / Biden DoJ's
The entire "Trump Russia collusion" was a hoax that everyone involved in the cases KNEW was garbage.
Dismissing the New Black Panthers case on coming into office
The psychotic assault on the J6 protesters, who were far less violent / destructive than the George Floyd rioters
Use of the FACE Act against peaceful anti-abortion protesters
The corrupt treatment and benefits given to Hunter Biden
I could go on. But the reality is simple: if you're looking for a corrupt DoJ, look for one run by Democrats
Ronald J. Ward said...
Add that to my list when Jaq says I’m easily media manipulated. People here don’t even believe Trump ever broke the law.
In 10 years of trying, the Democrats have yet to come up with even ONE actual crime committed by Trump.
If you'd told me 10 years ago that would be the case, I would have laughed in your face. But the clear reality is that NOTHING Trump was charged with, not in either of his impeachments, and not in any of the prosecutions anywhere in the country, has been an actual crime.
So, either:
1: The Dems are so incompetent they can't come up with an actual crime to prosecute Trump for, even though he's committed many
2: Trump hasn't committed any crimes
There's no other options her
+1 to everything Hassayamper said... at 1:50 PM
What is the problem of US Republican pseudo Democratic government? The system tends to over-penalize private actors and under-penalize institutional misconduct.
Individuals show up in court and go to jail but the organization is always innocent. So the well funded organization takes care of the individual. This was institutionalized by the mafia. This is what go fund me is for.
All the “fuck this” “fuck that” comments remind me of a very old Scottish joke. For which by way of background you need to know that once upon a time there was a certain mistrust shall we say between the local Protestants and the local Catholics.
An educated man comes across a man who is just finishing painting on a wall the message “FUCK THE POPE”. The first man remonstrates with the painter. “You can’t write that ! Quite irrespective of his doctrine, the Pope is a saintly man and a great scholar, respected around the world.” To which the painter replies, gesturing to his single paint can. “I can hardly paint - FUCK THE MODERATOR OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE CHURCH OF SCOTLAND - can I ?”
Such a long excerpt saying so little, fact free and in the grand NYT tradition providing no evidence to support outrageous assertions that should have been made about Obama and Biden and the way they used government to go after Trump.
He was targeted by two administrations. Is that unmentioned fact possibly the origin story for this revenge tale that they spin?
Less than a year since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and not the much since two assassination attempts on Trump; the NYT still hasn’t lowered the temperature on inflammatory rhetoric.
My interest in government-funded fraud is not selective.
If the NYT wants to jump on the bandwagon and start exposing ALL of the fraud that our tax dollars are paying for, I'm all for it.
Maybe start with USAID and the Fed renovations...never mind! maybe look into Social Security or welfare or other fraud within the vast federal spending complex for their crusading reporters to address. No need to be selective about it. Go to it!
This is the flying monkey's hero.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_James_Ward
I wonder if the guy's family know Chuck is making book off the name.
Chuckie flying monkey. Are you a psychopath too?
I bet you are. Got bodies in the woods somewhere, do you?
I think the first question to ask is if Trump has something to avenge. Only after that has been considered should the question of whether it is appropriate be discussed. The sdtrong assumption by the NYT is "No, of course he doesn't have anything to legitimately avenge. He's making mountains out of molehills." I don't see evidence that they have considered that it might have been a mountain to begin with.
“ I think the first question to ask is if Trump has something to avenge. Only after that has been considered should the question of whether it is appropriate be discussed.”
Just look at the number of supposedly nonpartisan prosecutors have resigned from the supposedly nonpartisan DOJ. Turns that that, too, was a legacy of Obama and his wingman, AG Holder. They brought them in in political positions, then, with Trump scheduled to take over, allowed them to burrow into the top of the DOJ career ranks.
The worry about politicized prosecutions was always, before Obama, somewhat kept under control, through the worry of quid pro quo. That’s over now. Yes, we would like that back now, seeing how bad the Dems’ politicized justice could get. But to get back to non politicized justice, some of them have to start fearing for their freedom, and that of their cohorts and friends. And we aren’t going to get there with always being the nice guys that they can take advantage of. They have to seriously worry about that, in order to get back to where most of us want to be.
And, I think that Trump wants this, but understands that you don’t get back to quid pro quo until the other side understands that they face consequences for their ill deeds. It’s part of negotiating that he understands implicitly.
So, yes, some of this is personal, but he always is playing 4D chess, and what he appears to be doing is often not what he really is doing.
So, expect things to get worse before they get better. I fully expect Don Lemon, and the MN Protesters, who disrupted the Christian church service, to be prosecuted under the Klan Act. And maybe Hamas apologists and other antisemites prosecuted the same. How is that going to play with their virtue signaling, going to jail for violating the Klan Act. Pretty bad look.
Also, I expect some RICO prosecutions for disrupting ICE operations. Someone, Or someones are funding it. And they have big bucks. The money that isn’t foreign (e.g. PRC, Iran, etc). DOGE and the FBI have the tools to track much of this. Imagine Warren Buffet worrying about spending the rest of his life in federal prison (his foundation (probably thanks to.Bill Gates) is apparently in the top 10 foundations funding domestic terrorism).
Rusty, I pointed that out a few weeks ago. There, there, Chuck.
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