"... and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region. This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America, and all NATO Nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the Tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st. Additional discussions are being held concerning The Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. Further information will be made available as discussions progress. Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and various others, as needed, will be responsible for the negotiations — They will report directly to me. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"
ADDED: I just want to note that I have seen that Trump kept calling Greenland "Iceland," and I'm not buying the theory that he was merely calling it an ice land and not mixing it up with the country named Iceland.
I thought of another excuse that could be attempted. Trump likes to rename things, notably the Gulf of Mexico, so maybe part of his plan is to rename Greenland, which, after all, was misnamed in the first place. I do not think it's a good idea to use a name that another country is already using, but at least, he's not calling it Trumpland.
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"Trump often tries to increase pressure on the other side when he believes it can lead to a favorable deal, and he seemed happy to do so ahead of the forum in Davos."
That, surprisingly, is from the AP.
And he's doing it for the ultimate good of the USA.
Mr Market seems pleased.
TACO
Seems strange since I've seen people describe the very idea of it as crazy, impossible, stupid, childish, or ego-driven foolishness, and that's just from comments on this one blog.
Victoria hopes for failure. No wonder Trump pisses her off.
If you have muscle, why pretend that you don't.
If only he wasn't so old.
I dunno, I liked the hearing the Commie-Dems wailing about Trump sending in the 82nd Airborne. Thank goodness he’s negotiating, which conservatives expected.
The added benefit is saving the 82nd Airborne for capturing Frey and Walz.
It’s the Little Old Biddy From Pasadena!
And just today the EU was whining about this.
Makes me laugh out loud.
Sit and spin you pussies!
Trump chickened out only if you thought he really wanted to acquire Greenland rather than using outlandish positions to anchor the negotiations. Now if the Danes had said, "Sure, go ahead and take it" I doubt Trump would have said no, but I also don't think he expected to end up with Greenland at the end of the day.
Yay, he didn’t do more of his tax increases that are paid by American people!
DJT plays 11-Dimensional Chess while libtard Party members play 52-Pick Up.
John Althouse Cohen said...
Yay, he didn’t do more of his tax increases that are paid by American people!
The only taxes these people care about are taxes paid by people who make things in other countries.
But if you cut taxes on Americans they are angry.
It just makes you look stupid when you say things like this.
You have to ignore what he says and follow what actually happens.
Yay, he didn’t do more of his tax increases that are paid by American people!
It's so nice of the NATO nations to be so concerned about the economic welfare of Americans. Clearly that must have been why they were willing to negotiate.
victoria said...
TACO
Except with Iran and Venezuela right?
These people just don’t think. They are retards.
We can’t let people this stupid vote. It is insane that this person has a say in how our country is run.
It was never going to be free to bring well paying manufacturing jobs back home. But if you are a person who is cosseted in the upper classes, well, then American workers getting increases in their paychecks must seem pretty hard to swallow when you have to pay more for your nannies and your housekeepers, not to mention the stable hands brushing down your polo ponies!
Jaq said...
You have to ignore what he says and follow what actually happens.
No. You just need to have an understanding of second and third order effects and not be a moral juvenile.
No way The Supremes are going to strip Trump of his Tariffs ways. This win is bigger than Maduro and bigger than the Iran Nuke obliteration. Let’s face it. I get a rush out of the use of American might. Greenland fell without as much as a shot fired. Hooah!
The NYT: Trump is just on a lucky streak is all.
"TACO"
Do you not understand the concept of negotiating?
(Jamie made this point today in another thread, and she's spot on.)
I admit that I don't like unnecessary wars, I admit that I don't think that it is our interest to fight a war with Venezuela just so the globalists can finally bring that country under their control, ditto Iran. Right now we have the Ukrainians fighting tooth and nail to place the globalist yoke on their own necks.
Is that my choice? Side with the globalists or side with Russia and China? I would rather side with the American people.
“ Yay, he didn’t do more of his tax increases that are paid by American people!”
I either pay a bit more things made by people employed in the US and living in quality communities or I pay more taxes for government checks for people with no job prospects living where the community has been hollowed out.
People have a better life under option A.
They’re giving “busy work” to Trump to make him think he is still relevant, just like his family did to his father in his dementia years before his death.
Yeah … tax hikes and tax payer waste are the property of the democrats
I've read a couple of other conservative blogs and it's amazing how pissed off they get when Trump wins. These are supposedly conservatives. They're in total denial that he could possibly be good at this. They say they support him but in the background hope he fails so we can get back to the good old days of losing.
"He's on a pace..."
The great baseball broadcast booth, color commentator Tim MacCarver hated those words... "he's on a pace".
Something to do with setting someone up to fail.
The thing is that if Trump fails, it will not be for a lack of trying. The man in the arena is back baby.
Yo se quierro taco bell.
"They say they support him but in the background hope he fails so we can get back to the good old days of losing."
"He's not our sort, dear."
I get Minnesota and Wisconsin mixed up all the time.
Where I live, nobody notices.
Now, let’s hear from Rutte. I would love to hear from NATO about how they are going to let Trump bumble around in the Arctic. It’s amazing how conservatives belief these outlandish Truth Social posts by Trump. No one suspects this “solution” of his for the Arctic is only rolling around in his dementia affected head?
Trump didn't have the cards.
Now that Trump has ruled out using force to acquire Greenland, walking back from the ledge, which would not have been approved by Congress anyway, we can move on from this Trumpian misadventure for the most part. Congress would never approve money to buy Greenland either. Besides, why pay for what you can get for free? This was always a bizarre and misguided vanity project.
Jaq said...
I admit that I don't like unnecessary wars, I admit that I don't think that it is our interest to fight a war with Venezuela just so the globalists can finally bring that country under their control, ditto Iran. Right now we have the Ukrainians fighting tooth and nail to place the globalist yoke on their own necks.
Is that my choice? Side with the globalists or side with Russia and China? I would rather side with the American people.
What war are we fighting with Venezuela?
What war are we fighting with Iran?
You are just saying words you don’t understand or don’t want to use accurately.
Yay, he didn’t do more of his tax increases that are paid by American people!
So you were a big supporter of the BBB then? The Republican bill that passed last year and prevented the largest tax increases on the American people in US history?
Welcome to the party, Pal!
LOL Trump always wins. The butthurt will be a sight to behold!
much of what was attempted in the past, dealing with the iranian nuclear program, opening the jerusalem embassy was kabuki it seems
Raise everybody’s income taxes but No Tariffs. This never made sense. All the people who oppose tariffs should have their income tax doubled.
Correction: Is already a sight to behold.
Kak uttered these words with a straight face: “ Now that Trump has ruled out using force to acquire Greenland”.
Geez, you’re a dope if you ever thought that was an option.
“President Trump told reporters Wednesday that NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte is “more important” than Danish Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen when asked about Danish officials’ unwillingness to discuss the U.S. acquiring Greenland.
“They didn’t tell me that, so when they tell me because I don’t like getting it second hand. And if he wants to tell me, he’ll tell me right to my face,” Trump responded
When asked when he will be discussing the possible acquisition, Trump said he has “no idea.””
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5699419-trump-rutte-nato-greenland-denmark/
It has been claimed, by one who studied the matter, that Leif Erikson named the frozen wastelands of North America Vinland, and called the fertile island Iceland, in order to trick his enemies into seizing the wrong one.
I knew he'd already won when lefties were posting photos of "Trump alone arriving in Davos" and to me it looked staged like the hero entrance to a showdown. But it couldn't have been cinematic staging like that right?
Quixotic
1: foolishly impractical
especially: marked by rash, lofty, romantic ideas or extravagantly chivalrous action doomed to fail
2: capricious, unpredictable
Prof: "at least, he's not calling it Trumpland."
Too bad - then your Democratic Party in Trumpland tag could feature pics of Harris, Walz, Newsom, Omar, etc, stranded on a glacier. CC, JSM
“In an interview with CNBC’s Joe Kernen minutes after making the statement, Trump described the Greenland framework as the “concept of a deal.””
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/21/trump-tariffs-nato-greenland-davos.html
“Concept of a deal”! Just like healthcare. LOL
Lem: "Greenland fell without as much as a shot fired."
Needs a Trump is Like Ethan Allen tag.
CC, JSM
First Acquire it. Then rename it RedWhiteBlueLand!
"Just like healthcare."
Gee. I'm trying to remember which President and which party completely and totally fucked up "healthcare." Maybe you can remember, Inga. I do seem to recall it was named after the President responsible, and Congress had to pass to see what was in it.
But that was before last week, so maybe you don't remember either.
“Gee. I'm trying to remember which President and which party completely and totally fucked up "healthcare."
Recollection does seem to be a tall order for the red hats these days. Like everyone was in love with the pre-existing thing and being priced out of the system. Yeah, those were the days.
"You are just saying words you don’t understand or don’t want to use accurately."
We are blockading Venezuela, last I checked, a blockade was an act of war.
We just tried to kill Iran's leaders in a missile attack. I guess that's not war though, I guess that that is peace.
and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region
None of the EU countries wants to fight and defend the Arctic Region -- none. Trump may not end up owning Greenland, but he might end up with a lot more latitude in the Arctic than he initially sought.
Perhaps Trump is saying "Iceland", because they're throwing it into the plan. He knows people will go nuts with him saying it, and they will turn out to be wrong.
Same with Svalbard and the Northern Baltics -- he's looking at you, Norway.
Including Canada, that would give the US control over 2/3 of the Arctic, with a promise to extend Golden Dome to cover Europe over the pole.
Not bad for half a week's work...
"Does [the deal] still include the United States having ownership of Greenland like you wanted?" a reporter asked.
"Uh, it’s a long-term deal," Trump said. "It’s the ultimate long-term deal. And I think it puts everybody in a really good position, especially as it pertains to security and minerals and everything else."
Asked how long the deal would be, Trump said it would be "infinite."
"Uh, infinite," he said. "There was no timeline. It’s forever. It’s signed forever."
"But you haven’t signed anything yet, right?" a reporter asked.
"They’re working on the details of the deal," Trump said. "But it’s what’s called an 'infinite deal.'"
"We just tried to kill Iran's leaders in a missile attack."
When did that happen?
We have friends who have been to Iceland 4 times in the last 4 years. Last year they added Greenland to their itinerary. They're not going back to Greenland.
Today Greenland, Tomorrow The World!
So Trump will NOT be invading Greenland with our military, as he previously threatened, and the US will not be "owning" Greenland or making it a State, but the US will be allowed more uses of military bases to protect Greenland, the US, the Arctic, and all of NATO. That's a great idea. I heartily agree. But why the hell didn't Trump say this to begin with, instead of saying he was going to invade Greenland with our military and make it part of the USA? Trump is certifiably nuts. (But I did vote for him, because my default position is that all politicians are corrupt, and are only interested in power, money, and fame, and between Trump and Biden, Trump was the lesser of two evils.)
All these silly beta cucks in other countries just got rolled again. Trump never wanted to acquire Greenland anyway. Their citizens are more dumbass beta cucks. He master-negotiated with his incredible alpha manliness and they caved! They caved so hard, they let the 1951 Treaty stand. USA! USA! USA!
They’re giving “busy work” to Trump to make him think he is still relevant, just like his family did to his father in his dementia years before his death.
Igna has hit the bottle early today. Under those circumstances, her level of projection increases exponentially.
Maybe she is not just a dullard, as the esteemed Dr. Michael K asserted. Maybe she is becoming demented by her hatred for Trump and all things not left wing.
I have no idea what Trump wants except for the Nobel Peace Prize but he has definitely moved world opinion. He wanted increased defense spending by NATO. Check. He wanted Russia and China out of the Arctic. Check. He sounds like NATO's Rutte and Carney.
“All these silly beta cucks in other countries just got rolled again. Trump never wanted to acquire Greenland anyway. Their citizens are more dumbass beta cucks. He master-negotiated with his incredible alpha manliness and they caved! They caved so hard, they let the 1951 Treaty stand. USA! USA! USA!”
Riiiiiight, lol. Coping rather hard there buddy.
I knew he'd get Greenland. I can't say I know what good 21st century strategic moves are but I assume Trump is making them and try to learn from what he does. Get the bomb away from Iran; get back control of this hemisphere; get control of the border and deport the criminals AutoPen let in; maintain good relations with Russia; showcase military capacity; end DEI in the military. But what next? I have no idea though I suppose it will be obvious when it happens. This has all been common sense stuff that we'd become too convoluted to focus on.
I think Trump is sort of like Charlemagne who lifted Europe out of the Dark Ages with reforms in every area. He even ended the almost complete illiteracy that the barbarians had caused and I really think there is an illiteracy caused by another sort of barbarism in this country. It's a blend of AI, smart phones, Marxism and identity politics in place of philosophy, history and literature. Charlemagne got in educated, literate men from the odd nooks of Europe, like Ireland and Northumbria, where there were still educated men. And maybe we'll be getting in Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, and other Central Europeans to replace the scarecrows, tin men and lions of Western Europe.
"Riiiiiight, lol. Coping rather hard there buddy." Poor Inga. Can't tell when you lost the plot. Its ok. Everybody's trembling.
A long way to go on this. Rutte is in agreement with Trump on a lot of things, but he won't have the final say. Definitely wait and see territory.
I haven't seen the framework yet - has anybody else? I notice Trump is laying claim to the Arctic, of course that would be the North American / Greenland arctic he's referring to. I notice he didn't mention Canada. Interesting, that.
Trump’s Greenland negotiating style is like a bratty teenager’s: Threaten to throw a fit, settle for what you already would have received without the tantrum, then declare victory.
Trump has Biden-brain. We need mandatory retirement at 75.
Those of us "red hats" who have been saddled with the premiums, the shitty service and the taxes for Obamacare remember quite well, Chuck. As do the health insurance industry execs living large.
https://www.levernews.com/health-insurers-371-billion-windfall/
They’re giving “busy work” to Trump to make him think he is still relevant, just like his family did to his father in his dementia years before his death.
That's a stupid comment even for you.
If he wasn't relevant, why does he rattle around inside your thick skull every waking moment of your day?
People who aren't relevant are ignored.
Trump surrendered on Greenland. Maybe Carney’s speech scared him.
"A long way to go on this. Rutte is in agreement with Trump on a lot of things, but he won't have the final say. Definitely wait and see territory"
yes, but from the American perspective, anything less than making Greenland American territory is a loss. You can't collectively accept a massive climbdown and then lecture us about 32D chess.
It amazing how the lefties in here wake up every day with complete amnesia, and step on that same bloody rake again and again. If I made that many stupid predictions, I'd never darken this door again. Can we get some better lefties, maybe order some from Temu?
Typical Trump, he creates a problem, gets some real truth from the rest of the world’s leaders and Wall Street, gets scared and then backs down, then acts like HE solved a real problem. Why don’t Trumpists recognize this pattern yet? Why do Trumpists continue to immediatly believe this guy?
Theres a bump on their forehead, which has gotten necrotic
"Can we get some better lefties..."
They're busy screaming at ICE agents arresting illegal alien murderers and rapists. What's here is what's left.
Much better to rent than to buy that fixer-upper. Lots of history of socialized programs that would be expected to be continued and voting patterns that are counter MAGA.
1000 years ago, Greenland was green. They exported beef to Europe, we still have the records of it. They were not ones for ironic names, they called Labrador “Flat Rock Land,” and New England Vinland because of the wild grapes.
Trump doesn't care if you think he won 32 level chess or something. He's going for unprecedented changes that benefit the U.S. We've been trying to garner control of Greenland since the Civil War. If he's left with having to score a field goal rather than a touchdown, it's more than anyone would have predicted, and it's more than anyone has accomplished before. If he scores a touchdown, the lefties will wake up forgetting they ever laughed at the effort. Trump is like the imaginary oppressed minority that has to be twice as good to be counted as equal. He's a victim of TDS supremacy!
Why do you believe that Trump incited the J6 crowd to violence or told people to drink bleach or how is it that you deny the established risk of Tylenol to trigger autism in susceptible individuals, and BTW there is no way to know which babies are at risk?
You start dealing with your own delusions and you will get a more respectful hearing, but as it stands, it’s pretty plain that you get your news served up twisted to make Trump look bad no matter what.
"When did that happen?"
Maybe you should go correct Wikipedia, but this is how I remember it.
The Iran–Israel war (13 – 24 June 2025), also known as the Twelve-Day War, was an armed conflict in the Middle East. The war began when Israel bombed military and nuclear facilities in Iran in a surprise attack,[43][44] assassinating prominent military leaders, nuclear scientists,[45] and politicians,[46][47][48] killing civilians, and damaging or destroying air defenses.[49]
After the first attack using US. supplied weapons and aircraft, we joined the part with Tomahawk cruise missile and bunker busters.
Their role in october 7th might have had a little to do with ig
“Iceland has already cost us a lot of money.”
Trump
So is he confused or does his idea of the “Arctic” now include Iceland?
Yesterday: OMG! OMG! OMG! Trump is going to send the military into Greenland! He's so crazy!
Today: OMG! OMG! OMG! Trump is not going to send the military into Greenland! He's so chicken!
Tomorrow: OMG! OMG! OMG! This is exactly what Trump is going to do next! He's so predictable!
So is he confused or does his idea of the “Arctic” now include Iceland?
"Yes, Iceland is considered an Arctic State, as the Arctic Circle passes through its northernmost island, Grímsey, making a small part of Iceland technically within the Arctic, though most of the country is just south of it, influenced by the Gulf Stream. Iceland is an official member of the Arctic Council, a high-level intergovernmental forum for Arctic issues."
They received the most marshall plan aid per capita
So nothing happened. (Except me buying some stocks cheap, no one thinking about Epstein for a week, and the stature of the US Pres taking another hit).
Today: OMG! Trump is a genius and world leader! He solved a non problem of his own making! Give him the Nobel prize!
Ah yes, Trump meant Iceland, not Greenland? What does that rascal have up his sleeve now?
Today: OMG! Trump is a genius and world leader! He solved a non problem of his own making! Give him the Nobel prize!
Given the overreactions yesterday it's only fair to say he stopped yet another war.
Trump Flies to Davos -- Brokers Peace Deal!
jim said...
So nothing happened. (Except me buying some stocks cheap, no one thinking about Epstein for a week, and the stature of the US Pres taking another hit).
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Me too. Let's all thank Trump for sinking the stock market with his proposed tariffs. Forget about your IRAs, pensions, money market funds, 401Ks, lets all just rejoice!!! Make America Great Again!!!!
It's a pretty dumb move -- the US could have just asked to build a few more military bases and communications stations in Greenland which would almost certainly have been approved.
Trump also could have negotiated privileged access to the most important resources for the US military, and then had Denmark continue to foot the bill for the expensive subsidies for the civilian population.
In other words they could have had cake and eaten it too but now they've just pissed off all their allies.
Trump's severe mental decline (from an already low base) yet again on show today.
Correct. It is a nonproblem, because he's trying to solve it before it becomes one. I like that kind of thinking especially if it comes with action.
Isn't the whole global warming farce using that explanation for trying to destroy the world's economy. Trump's efforts are tiny by comparison. He just wants to add some nice flags to the snow on Greenland. Maybe a McDonalds and a hockey team. Who could be against that? Just pretend it 's Biden or Harris doing it, and everything will make sense.
Oh noes (are we doing this again)
What's going on is the decomposition of Trump the person while Trump the movement careens down the highway on an ever-more unpredictable course.
An interesting commentary on what is going on here:
https://x.com/wolfejosh/article/2013768012642349120
It's a pretty dumb move -- the US could have just asked to build a few more military bases and communications stations in Greenland which would almost certainly have been approved.
Trump also could have negotiated privileged access to the most important resources for the US military, and then had Denmark continue to foot the bill for the expensive subsidies for the civilian population.
In other words they could have had cake and eaten it too but now they've just pissed off all their allies.
"...almost certainly have been approved..." By the same folks who have thrown a major temper tantrum every time Trump has proposed any action.
"...expensive subsidies for the civilian population..." which is roughly as large as the population of American Samoa, or Middletown, CT.
"Privileged access" is not the same thing as territorial ownership or control. Which matters in the big picture.
"expensive subsidies for the civilian population."
You mean like daycares and such?
So is he confused or does his idea of the “Arctic” now include Iceland?
My father in law was stationed in Iceland during the Cold War. We have in fact spent a great deal of money there.
And yes, a portion of Iceland is in the Arctic. They have Arctic species like reindeer, beluga whales, Arctic foxes, and occasionally a vagrant polar bear, most recently in 2024. Also walruses, although the Vikings exterminated them.
If you aren't mentioning Dysprosium and Terbium and you don't know what the general requirements and design of the Golden Dome are in passing you aren't really worth paying attention to.
The Democrats on this thread are just stupid.
The US missile defense system will be predicated on being able to shoot missiles down when they are at apex of trajectory.
When they are going up they are too far away. When they are on the way down they are too fast.
Now non-retarded people can go look at maps of the world and look at missile trajectories and then look at a map and guess where apex will be.
The Dysprosium and the Terbium are used in a lot of stuff we aren't supposed to talk about.
"No one suspects this “solution” of his for the Arctic is only rolling around in his dementia affected head?"
Have you noticed that these kind of comments are coming from people who, when Joe Biden was wandering around the stage like a rooomba, declared that he was "sharp as a tack" and "on top of his game"?
Well, good. Now the 11th Airborne can deploy to Minneapolis-St Paul instead of parachuting into Greenland.
Denmark surrendered in 6 hours in WWII. They showed the French how it is done.
Guess who kept Germany from taking Iceland and Greenland.
Denmark would be speaking German right now if it wasn't for the US.
It is the same today. Denmark is just a welfare recipient. They deserve no respect at all.
Inga said...
Ah yes, Trump meant Iceland, not Greenland? What does that rascal have up his sleeve now?
Iceland can't defend itself. In any conflict with Russia or China over the next 10 years one of the biggest threats will be submarine drones with nuclear missiles.
We have Alaska covered on one side. The other side includes Iceland and Greenland.
Really you are just so stupid that you shouldn't really talk when adults are planning the defense of the country.
Earnest Prole said...
Trump’s Greenland negotiating style is like a bratty teenager’s: Threaten to throw a fit, settle for what you already would have received without the tantrum, then declare victory.
So because you are ignorant of what is actually happening in the world that makes you think your stupid sarcasm means something?
I’m tempted to say there’s a method to Trump’s madness. I’m mulling over how it works.
Given the level of stupidity among modern democrats, like Igna, it sure seems like Trump is going to beat them every single time.
And they won't even understand that they have lost.
Me too. Let's all thank Trump for sinking the stock market with his proposed tariffs. Forget about your IRAs, pensions, money market funds, 401Ks, lets all just rejoice!!! Make America Great Again!!!!
The DOW closed at 43,487.83 on January 20, 2025.
It closed today at 49,077.23.
Just how fucking dumb are you?
Considering that Iceland was colonized starting in 873 and Leif was born in 970, it is unlikely that Leif named Iceland--which got its name because when sailing there you first see the glaciers that cover all the highest points of the land. The habitable land is only visible when you get much closer.
Leif's father Eirk the Red did discover, settle, and name Greenland, and what's probably being garbled is the comment recorded in Eíriks saga rauða [Erik the Red's saga]:
Þat sumar fór Eiríkr at byggja land þat, er hann hafði fundit ok hann kallaði Grænland, því at hann kvað menn þat mjök mundu fýsa þangat, ef landit héti vel.
[That summer, Erik went to settle in the country which he had found, and called Greenland, because he said people would be eager to go there if the land was named something good].
The North American settlement was at northernmost tip of Newfoundland, L'Anse aux Meadows [a corruption of L'Anse aux Méduses: Jellyfish Bay]. But Vinland proper, where the wild grapes grew, was somewhere further south, possibly as far south as Cape Cod bay, but far more likely to be Prince Edward Island (so Anne of Green Gables lived where Vikings had walked 850 years earlier).
The very best resource for this material is Gísli Sigurðsson's The Medieval Icelandic Saga and Oral Tradition. The first 2/3 of the book will be tough going for anyone who doesn't really know the Icelandic Sagas, but non-specialists can easily understand and enjoy the final 1/3. Gísli demonstrates that if you interpret the two Vinland Sagas the way we interpret oral traditions, they provide sufficiently accurate navigational information to sail from the Greenland settlement to L'Ans aux Meadow and from there to Prince Edward Island.
lonejustice said...
Me too. Let's all thank Trump for sinking the stock market with his proposed tariffs. Forget about your IRAs, pensions, money market funds, 401Ks, lets all just rejoice!!! Make America Great Again!!!!
Democrats on this thread have eaten an extra bowl of stupid for breakfast today. The stock market is up ~15% in less than a year.
You know Trump and the USA must have done pretty well over the last day or 2.
Man, Inga is big mad today!
Makes me laugh.
It was George W. Bush that changed the US from cooperative multilateral leader to unilateralist; Trump is just following a course first charted by Bush II. It was Bush who financed imperial America with multi-trillion-dollar borrowings from abroad, mostly China. The Republican defeat in 2008 did not clean out the failed fundamentalism; it defeated what was left of northern internationalism and moderation and migrated the survivors to the politics of Dixie. Trumpism is Stars and Bars Americanism reborn.
Ultimately, Trump II is not about decline but rather retreat resulting from defeat -- something quite different. Trump is failing in Europe, the Middle East, Latin America, and the Far East. Full-spectrum mediocrity.
Remember a week or two ago when the DOW set new records? Remember how Kak came on praising Trump? Now it's off those record highs and it's the end of the world.
And sorry, it was Bill Clinton who took us on this course, that's why they pushed George H W Bush aside, he left Iraq after the war aims were accomplished and the neocons were big mad.
Right now, due to EU policies, 1/4 of the population of Iceland is recent immigrants. They may very well, given that they have taken up the waving of Icelandic flags, similar to the St Georges Flag protest in the UK, want to turn it to ICEland.
" because he said people would be eager to go there if the land was named something good]"
Is there a source for that? There is a source that Greenland exported beef, so parts of it were almost certainly green if they were exporting beef in commercial quantities, I doubt he made the name up out of thin air. "Flat Rock Land" is basically a land of flat rocks, for example.
Sheesh. He's a little dyslexic. Change Iceland when he meant Greenland indicated that he wasn't reading off a teleprompter at the time. He kept calling Greenland a block of ice.
So the actual ask was having our golden dome up there.
Key Arctic Routes:
Arctic Corridor (Polar Route): The most direct route for Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) from western Russia (like the Kola Peninsula) to the U.S. East Coast is directly over the North Pole, passing near Greenland and Iceland, which are strategically vital for missile defense.
North Atlantic Trajectory: Missiles can also follow paths across the North Atlantic, curving over Iceland, Greenland, and Canada towards the eastern U.S., as seen in flight paths between cities like New York and Moscow.
Why These Routes?
Great Circle Principle: On a sphere (Earth), the shortest distance between two points isn't a straight line on a flat map but a curve (the great circle). This path minimizes flight time and fuel for aircraft and missiles.
Strategic Importance: Greenland sits directly under these critical mid-course flight paths, making it crucial for early warning and missile interception, according to Business Today, Army University Press, and Wikipedia.
Missile Flight Dynamics:
ICBMs: ICBMs follow ballistic trajectories, arcing high into space, but their initial launch and mid-course phase are designed to follow these shortest global routes, often appearing as curved paths on flat maps.
Example: A flight from western Russia to New Jersey might take around 20 minutes, following the shortest path, says Euro-sd.
Howard said...
Sheesh. He's a little dyslexic. Change Iceland when he meant Greenland indicated that he wasn't reading off a teleprompter at the time. He kept calling Greenland a block of ice.
So the actual ask was having our golden dome up there.
I am sure the Terbium and Dysprosium came up.
“Man, Inga is big mad today!
Makes me laugh.”
Makes me laugh to see you think I’m mad, why would I be? Trump failed big time, I’m not a Trump cheerleader.
Owning Greenland is a personal interest of Trump, not a core national interest of the US. That makes it unpopular among Americans. It also creates a difficult position for European allies. They are partners with the US as a nation and institution—not with Trump as an individual.
Russia and China have subs armed with ICBMs, so fail to see how crucial Greenland is. The plot of House of Dynamite featured the question whether North Korea might have any also.
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