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"Police Say Jewish Community Targeted in Deadly Sydney Attack/Two people were in custody after the shooting at Australia’s best-known beach during a Jewish event."
"The rare mass shooting sent crowds scattering on Australia’s best-known beach.... Shootings are rare in Australia, a country with one of the lowest gun-related death rates in the developed world."
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Only the criminals have guns there.
That is an impetus for me to attend the local Chabad outdoor menorah lighting today despite the bitter cold.
One shooter dead, one in police custody. Why no names? I'm guessing that we know why. Time will tell.
Well, I popped up another tab to see what Mr. Google knows. Naveed Akram. No surprise there.
That remind me, I have to go out and buy a Springfield M1A before they're illegal here in VA.
Yes how dies this happen? Civilian gun ownership is highly illegal in Australia.
Inspiring video: https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/watch-bondi-beach-gunman-tackled-by-bystander-hailed-for-heroism/4076529/?ref=Alsoread_article
"Straight fucking legend"
The intifada has been globalized by immigration. It used to be that Jews were only killed in Israel, well, at least after the unpleasantness in Germany. Intifada, in Arabic, means the shaking off, I guess like shaking off fleas. That sounds like the Arab viewpoint.
Speak hate of Trump and an assassin surfaces. Speak hate of Jews …. well you know the drill.
“Police say.” I’m troubled by the way media frames this as well.
Arabs vs. Jews? Who'd have thunk?
As if there’s reason to be skeptical of the FACT that again Jews were specifically targeted on the first night of Hanukkah.
I posted a few days ago that there has been "chatter" regarding Muslim attacks over Christmas. I assumed in the US, but of course this all is global.
Given that many guns were banned in Australia and the UK, and then many knives were banned in the UK, they'll continue to fight terrorists with narwhal tusks. Truth.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50870309
Having just spent a couple of weeks with some very nice Aussies who were quite proud of their no gun and now no knife policies, it boggles the mind to wonder what those folks are thinking today.
Naveed akram is the shooter
That it happened is evidence that it so rarely happens.
Not that long ago actually
Not sure what this has to do with gun control. Australia gun death fatality rate dropped 70% after stricter gun laws enacted in the 1990s. Is the point that absent tough gun laws a lot of the beach goers would have been armed? Seems unlikely.
“Not sure what this has to do with gun control.”
Really? Gun control was supposed to prevent this crap. Total, 100% gun control means zero guns on the street, which the Aussies have. Tell me how bad guys could possibly get a firearm. Oh, they can still get them? Who knew?
Marsupials were made for concealed carry.
Gun control didn't prevent this, but common sense immigration control certainly would have.
A marsupial society is a polite society.
By the AI numbers : “As of late 2025, there are approximately 8.2 to 8.3 billion people alive today. The estimated total number of firearms available worldwide is over one billion, with the vast majority in civilian hands.”
Reasonable gun control in a liberal culture that entertains abortive ideation to relieve "burdens".
When you chant to globalize the intifada, this is what it means. And soon, it'll be coming at others of us. There is much to say about this, but frankly, anyone discussing 'gun control' after this horror is at a level of naiveté that does not even grant entrance into this discussion. Take the social science coffee shop debates elsewhere.
Today, around Western nations, Jews have to have armed security to celebrate our holidays. To go to a party. To attend any event that will knowingly host other Jews. To meet with friends at Bondi Beach. And the world just keeps on pretending that this is OK.
It is not. And honestly, I'd love to scan the other posts today, but it's hard for me to look at David Sedaris as anything but trite when I see what is going on. And how wary I have to be traveling or attending things these days. And yes...I will be armed. I'm an American, after all.
"When you chant to globalize the intifada, this is what it means."
Yes, it does.
Bondi. Beach… Don’t get Trump started!
Australia recently recognized Palestine. Australian Jews should have heeded the warning and emigrated.
Australia chose safety over freedom and now have neither.
Joe Bar,
You won't regret it.
Was listening to the reporting and analysis on GB News this morning. Living Treasure Michael Portillo pointed out that Oz enacted their gun laws with bipartisan support immediately after another mass shooting. He asked his guests if this incident would spur another big drastic legislative package. Everyone kind of danced around the unspoken assumption that such legislation would have to be either strict immigration control or stricter control of the law-abiding population. (how you could achieve the latter, I don't know - Oz has become pretty damn authoritarian. But I'm sure some MPs have legislation ready to go!)
The NSW Police Commissioner, during his presser, stated inter alia that riot squads were being deployed to keep everyone safe. Hmm. What sorts of riots was he expecting? Ones like the October 8 demonstrations, blaming the Jews for their own deaths? Or anti-terrorist riots like in Britain after Southport? CC, JSM
Port arthur followed dunblane and murdoch fanned the flames
Achilles and Candy ass Owens(D) assure us that these Jews faked their own deaths.
Was there a Jewish Holiday? There seems to be alot of them. Every violent attack seems to occur before, during, or after the endless stream of Jewish Holiday and events. And Holocaust rememberances.
Whites are becoming a minority in Austrailia. I'm sure Bill Maher is happy.
Austrailia used to be picky over immigrants. No doubt some Muslim is behind the attack. Consequence of prior actions.
Was there no security or police presence at a large Hanukkah event? Shameful neglect by the Aussie authorities if so. The hero of the day was an unarmed bystander who tackled one of the gunmen. Moreover, this hero is himself Muslim. Would be great to see the Muslim community start to actively oppose this kind of terror.
The Australian newspaper reports one of the deaths is a Holocaust survivor. From Ukraine.
Imagine being a 90 yo Southern black guy, maybe the son and definitely the grandson of slaves, and you get lynched by the Klan in 2025. What would be going thru your mind? “I was right - you can’t trust these white mothafuckas.” Crockett and Reid would be echoing it from their platforms.
Nobody’s going to do that for this guy. CC, JSM
Pretty much the whole thing on video here. You don't see anyone shot except one of the terrorists, and that from a long distance.
Fucking animals.
After the gunmen are subdued, the police have a hard time controlling the crowd.
For a while, the NYT published online the name of one of the shooters, Naveed Akram. Now, their "live update" page has no names, no discussion of who was doing the intifada at Bondi. Their "what we know" page says the names have not been released, but that's a lie.
What may be a surprising revelation: the name of the bystander who tackled and disarmed one of the shooters was Ahmed Ahmed, a local fruit-stand vendor. Nice work, Ahmed!
Looks like Australia needs to ban gun ownership.
Jim53IQ,
Since the majority of gun fatalities are suicides in the U.S. one can guess that the ratio is even higher Australia simply based on demographics of suicide. Wanna bet that 70% drop was fewer suicides by firearm and replaced by a corresponding rise in suicides by other means?
Seeing as the linked article fails to say anything at all about the identity of the gunmen, you know for sure they weren't native Australians, just like when a story about a politician involved in a scandal and his/her party affiliation isn't identified you knew it was a Democrat.
FYI - Australia had a big gun confiscation drive after a mass shooting in 1998. As the saying goes, if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
When they emphasise the gun deaths as if "death" is not a sufficient category of its own, it is because they don't want you to think about the overall violent death rate. They want you to think you would be safer if they took guns away.
I worked in mental health including forensic units for over forty years and knew at least two dozen murderers or attempted murderers. Not one of them had used a gun. They used cars, poison, fires, explosives, knives, strangling, drowning, pushing off balconies...plenty of other choices.
The telegraph says he is naveed akram who attended an islamic center madrassa in 2022
Just in case you missed it...
“Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No one should believe that the war that we are waging is just the war of the Islamic State alone. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic State is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels.”
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, ISIS caliph
"It is the nature of Islam to dominate not to be dominated; to impose its laws upon all nations and to extend its power to the entire world".
Hassan al-Banna, founder Muslim Brotherhood
Who is Naveed Akram, the Bondi Beach shooter? https://share.google/fJd4IGRfEaZbCPkMQ
https://t.co/cWaDzDAqnD
RCOCEAN II said, "Was there a Jewish holiday? There seems to ba a lot of them."
That's the answer. Ban Jewish holidays.
narciso's 12:08 link: "This is what Labour MP Lola McEvoy said following the terror attack on Bondi Beach.
"We should try to detoxify the way we think of people who aren't like us, because *diversity is our strength*""
Insane.
"That's the answer. Ban Jewish holidays."
That's extreme. Just forbid Jews from celebrating their holidays in public.
Dont mind the sharks that cacharophobic (checks notes)
Wife and I love Sydney. We'll be there in a couple of months. Won't be going to Bondi. I've been there, and don't really see the attraction anyway.
There's another place in Sydney we do frequent, Martin Place, that saw a jihadi terrorist attack in 2014. I don't think the framing that these things never happen in Australia isn't really accurate.
Lindt Cafe siege remembered 10 years after terrifying images beamed around the world - ABC News https://share.google/gUfwNTGN0zd0Mau8f
Imported murderers doing the jobs Australians won’t do.
Imported murderers doing the jobs Australians won’t do.
AVI: “ When they emphasise the gun deaths as if "death" is not a sufficient category of its own, it is because they don't want you to think about the overall violent death rate….Plenty of other choices.”
You’d think the Ozzies would know that, from one of their folksongs. Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT, Neck ties, contracts, High voltage…CC, JSM
I think I prefer places where armed citizens can protect themselves and others from evildoers to a place where unarmed people have to tackle shooters (Bondi Beach) or hide in storage closets (Brown).
The hero who disarmed the one shooter didn't dare shoot the bastard. Australian government would have strung him up by his thumbs.
As a result, the shooter was free to join his partner and keep shooting people. Sick.
I was surprised to see that the New York Times was fairly quick to report this new pogrom. Also surprised to see that the Times got all the way to paragraph 5 before blaming Benjamin Netanyahu.
but frankly, anyone discussing 'gun control' after this horror is at a level of naiveté that does not even grant entrance into this discussion
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Several bombs found in car at fine site.
As the saying goes, if guns are outlawed, only Muslims will have guns.
@TobyTucker, FIFY
So now Australia understands what “Globalize the Intifada” means. Coming soon to a Democrat-run American city near you.*
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* May have already come to Providence, RI, if I’m right about why details of the Brown University gunman and his targets have not been released.
You can't "ban" Jewish Holidays and Holocaust celebrations. There are too many of them. Is it Hannakuh already? How long does it last.
That'll teach em to be Hebrew in public.
Looked it up. Hannuakah lasts 8 days! BTW, our local grocery stores had some funny signs up. One said "Happy Hannukah, get a blah, blah to celebrate" the other sign the next aisle down said "Celebrate the Holiday with XXX".
I think the sydney beach killer and the brown killer are going to have something in common. And it wont be their age or how tall they are.
The IDF taught the Gazans not to be alive in public.
RCOCEAN II said...
The IDF taught the Gazans not to be alive in public.
They don’t seem to have learned their lesson. Apply the training materials harder!
Why do pakistanis hate jews so much is the question
As the saying goes, if guns are outlawed, only Muslims will have guns.
… and Tren de Aragua and MS-13 and inner city gangbangers.
I see RCocean has posted like ten times in this thread... and not a single mention of sorrow over the deaths or actual moral opprobiation on the Muslim terrorist.
One begins to think that RCOcean is blaming the Jews celebrating one of the oldest holiday weeks in the world, Hanukah, for actually existing.
Just call him haman
The hamas fan boi
Some additional reporting coming in (links to Instapundit posts)
Aussie police report multiple IEDs were also found (scroll down) Also includes a reminder that following the Oct 7 attacks, demonstrators in Sydney walked around chanting "Gas the Jews"
Tangential related At least three antisemitic/Islamofascist attacks surfaced globally in the last 24 hours
1) Bondi Beach
2) German police arrested 5 plotting a Christmas Market attack
3) Home of a Jewish family in Redlands CA was attacked.
I have also seen reporting that the shooting at Brown was directed at a class being taught Jewish faculty member who was part of Brown's Judaic Studies program.
"The IDF taught the Gazans not to be alive in public."
Yet 98 percent of them are still alive after they started a war by murdering hundreds of women and children. Worst genocide ever!
Enemy action
https://x.com/EYakoby/status/2000295469738762714
I know how dare they show themselves
Didnt they call this globalize the intifada
https://share.google/7OXw2yMS7quo0YEt0
Speaking of Australia's recent immigration policy versus years past, one need only read an old (1961), but funny, book about Italian immigrants: They're a Weird Mob. Available at Amazon
https://t.co/ESYrdOe7C1
Father and son shooters
I hate this extra word "community" that keeps getting used and tacked on. headlines should just read "Jews targeted in attack, Police say". It like when sports talkers keep saying "fan base" instead of "fans". The fan based wants a trade. Just say "fans".
Ocean: Or Price Point. CC, JSM
"That's the answer. Ban Jewish holidays."
"That's extreme. Just forbid Jews from celebrating their holidays in public."
Once they kill all the Jooous, problem solved.
Recognizing Palestine, that went well
“Rare mass shooting”?
Isn’t there supposed to be NO mass shootings? Idnt why they limited gun ownership?
The father and son terrorists had 6 LICENSED firearms!
So they gave licenses for firearms to the Muslim immigrants.
These animals were father and son?
Momma akram said he was a good boy though
Sydney's law enforcement exchange program with Uvalde
Reports are it took the police forever to get there. Why wasn't there a contingent at the event from the start? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to anticipate what happened.
Like thd police in demolition man
We're police officers! We're not trained to handle this kind of violence!
You got it, but covid protesters
They have to have a firm hand
Btw Michael Portillo's father was an exiled Spanish Republican. I didn't know that till I looked him up. The UK has had a lot of very prominent people of Italian, Spanish, Portuguese or Sephardic Jewish origins, which is why I find these names so often. Going back to 19th century Benjamin Disraeli and Dante Gabriel Rossetti.
One branch of my family is arteaga the more you know
"Michael Portillo's father was an exiled Spanish Republican."
What?
Fighter against Franco
"Arteaga" is Basque of course, from Vizcaya probably but there are a bunch in Guipuzcoa, but of no specific origin IMHO, as it is rather generic. It means "from the place ot the oaks" or probably "from the oak grove". In Euskara Artea = oak. Given the Basque landscape that is hardly specific.
For Spanish and French names, I like the geneanet.com site as it queries the civil registry (registro civil) going back 150 years or more.
Yes, I am not being ironic when I call Portillo a living treasure. Excellent example of immigrant assimilation. His pic should be in the OED next to the word 'English.' Public school and Oxbridge educated. Just the gentlest most cultured of men. He was probably going to lead the Tories in opposition, and maybe be PM one day, but he talked in an interview about his schoolboy same-sex explorations. Yeah, him and the other million British boarding-school kids. In the environment of the time, he had to step down. Had he waited about 10 years to 'come out,' they would have taken him by force to make him king. CC, JSM
Instead the tories languished in opposition for a decade and didnt learn any lessonS from it
Original Mike = profile not available. Why? Because you're Narciso?
People are floating the name of Brown shooter - Erickson from Winsconsin. True? Or not?
Nice if someone in authority would let us in on the secret.
Where'd this come from?
Supposedly army cybersecurity (doesnt that make feel safe)
Kak, Ward, Inga, PedoFredo, and Groomer gadfly all silent...
They busy hiding the bullets and molotov cocktails?
No haman im not original mike
So hispano comprende
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