Disyembre 20, 2025

Can you interpret a photograph?


And what does Bill Clinton in a hot tub mean?


ADDED: If you drop Bill Clinton in a pot of boiling water, he will of course frantically try to clamber out. But if you place him gently in a pot of tepid water and turn the heat on low, he will float there quite placidly. As the water gradually heats up, Bill Clinton will sink into a tranquil stupor, exactly like one of us in a hot bath, and before long, with a smile on his face, him will unresistingly allow himself to be cooked into a sumptuous feast for.... Well, I don't know who it's for, but Bill sure looks dreamily blissful.

(See "Boiled Frog" (Wikipedia) for my source material, the version of the apologue in Daniel Quinn's "The Story of B.").

124 (na) komento:

ChrisC ayon kay ...

Epstein was always about Bill Clinton. Everyone knew that for a decade. It’s why MAGA types have been howling about releasing the files. Weird that dems throw him under the bus on the 1/1M chance that they could snag Trump.

rehajm ayon kay ...

…as with pedophiles they get away with it because they get women to vigorously defend them. Fall of man not so apt…

Leland ayon kay ...

You don't suppose they redacted Chelsea's face while sitting on Bill's lap?

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

Not quite as good as James Brown in a hot tub. Hyaaah!!

Peachy ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
narciso ayon kay ...

Theres no subtext required

American mandarin (chomskys screed) indeed

Peachy ayon kay ...

It's hard to understand why Crook Burisma mob-puppet Joe (D-soros) didn't release the "files".
Puzzling.

Peachy ayon kay ...

he had 4 years.

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

It guarantees that "the smartest woman in America" is nowhere near.

Peachy ayon kay ...

OT:
"Democrats allow Somalis to commit welfare fraud in exchange for Somalis engaging in election fraud.

We all know it. They know it.

Democrats are buying harvested ballots from foreigners with our tax dollars."

But the Epstein files!

We can both.

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

What do think the chances are that there is a similar photo of Trump?
A: About the same chance that the pee pee tapes are out there..
The Dems haven't learned a thing in 9 years, or since 1917 for that matter.

Spiros ayon kay ...

I'm so disappointed! Even Stephen Hawkings was caught in Epstein's snare.

Dave Begley ayon kay ...

Leftists and Dems were friends of the famous pedo Epstein.

Corrupt and immoral.

I want to know why Hillary isn’t in these pictures. Wasn’t she invited?

But Hillary will stand by her man and not divorce Bill. Reason? Money.

Hillary is the most humiliated woman of all time.

Just an old country lawyer ayon kay ...

Speaking of roast suckling pig...

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

We have arrived at MeToo 2 in which Democrats topple their own icons and donors in pursuit of the Great Orange Whale.

Wince ayon kay ...

Hey, maybe Epstein was confused by the title of Chomsky's book, believing he'd be the best subject matter expert on sex with underage women?

"Better than Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent?"

Ann Althouse ayon kay ...

"Give me a great burrito from a taco truck or the perfect deli sandwich with salad and let the wealthy keep their creepy food."

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Again

Big Mike ayon kay ...

Noam Chomsky, the world’s most famous critic of power structures

Considering the iron grip he and his slavering acolytes had on linguistics research, I’d say he was not at all opposed to power structures — when he was at the apex of that structure. I have no idea where linguistics as a science would be today if he has never been born, but I’m certain it would be way ahead of where it is today.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

A great burrito is hard to find.

john mosby ayon kay ...

He is in the classic blowjob-recipient posture. This should become a GOP campaign billboard. JD, Rubio, and DeSantis all seem to be immune to counter-accusations of debauchery.

(United Upholstery Against JD won’t have much traction…) CC, JSM

Peachy ayon kay ...

btu but but -- the lying liars who lie had some sekrit photos of Trump with.... grown women who were part of a beauty paegent! You lefitsts have him now.

btw- I finally figured out why the corrupt lying Maddow left push the "Trump is a Russian bot/ Putin puppet" all the time.
The American democratic party has been intercepted by the KGB.

chickelit ayon kay ...

Is Clinton’s oar pointing left or right? He was such a triangulater.

Howard ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Howard ayon kay ...

So what is Pam Bondi waiting for?

Peachy ayon kay ...

Not this again. Bondi shot her mouth off - but the reality is, the files are filled with victims who legally - must be protected.

Howard ayon kay ...

The great word manipulator and the great money changer form the basis of the fall of Man. The parasites are ruling the world.

Birches ayon kay ...

Hey the hot tub isn't as damning as the nude beachpicture.

TaeJohnDo ayon kay ...

THEY GOT HIM NOW! Oh wait, that's not Trump... Now they have the sads.

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

Caption: "Well sweetheart, it ain't gonna s*ck itself."

Peachy ayon kay ...

Reminder: "House Democrat exchanged texts with Epstein during 2019 congressional hearing"
LOL

Her excuse ? "I talk to all my constituents."
LOL
On Q: The alphabet hack D soviet NBC press said - yeah! That excuse will work.

Epstein was texting Stacy(D) - telling her what to say... At a hearing with Trump's ex-lawyer. LOL.

rhhardin ayon kay ...

No cigar

RCOCEAN II ayon kay ...

Chomsky was always a fake. Just like Bernie, and Roger Moore.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

I hate to sound like a broken record but I did write several times that the files wouldn't include a client list for illegal services or videographic material of high profile people committing illegal acts. Also, I did claim the files wouldn't have that material selectively removed because it almost certainly never existed in the first place.

RCOCEAN II ayon kay ...

There's another picture of clinton swimming with Maxwell and some cutie who's face has been blacked out.

narciso ayon kay ...

Michael (the mouth of the flint river)

RCOCEAN II ayon kay ...

Epstein also offered Chomsky access to his residences in New York and New Mexico. It is not publicly established whether those offers were accepted. There was also a financial link. In 2018, approximately $270,000 was transferred to Chomsky from an account associated with Epstein. Chomsky has publicly stated that this money was his own, routed through Epstein-linked accounts while reorganising shared funds after the death of his first wife, and that it “did not involve one penny from Epstein”.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne ayon kay ...

Hopefully the staff at the house in Chappaqua got all the breakables locked up before the pictures came out.

G. Poulin ayon kay ...

Chomsky is only a critic of power structures that he doesn't like.

narciso ayon kay ...

Pol pol denialist

Christopher B ayon kay ...

@Mike (MJB Wolf) @ 8:21am ... +1
Another self-homing torpedo.

@Howard ... what was Merrick Garland waiting for?

Maynard ayon kay ...

So what is Pam Bondi waiting for?

What Howard really wants to say is "Look! A squirrel".

narciso ayon kay ...

Honestly he need to get bette4 material

rehajm ayon kay ...

…and as a man I don’t approve of being lumped in with Chomsky and the other losers…

Bill, Republic of Texas ayon kay ...

“But Hillary will stand by her man and not divorce Bill. Reason? Money.”

Spousal immunity.

gspencer ayon kay ...

"And what does Bill Clinton in a hot tub mean?"

It means Old Bill's been lying to us about what went on with all his trips with his pal Jeffery.

Mary Beth ayon kay ...

But Hillary will stand by her man and not divorce Bill. Reason? Money.

Power.

john mosby ayon kay ...

Ocean: I prefer Sean Connery as well, but I wouldn't call Moore a 'fake.' CC, JSM

RCOCEAN II ayon kay ...

If it'd been up to Glenn Beck Ben Shapiro we'd have had Hillary and Bill back in the White house in Jan 2017. And we'd probably never known about Epstein.

FredSays ayon kay ...

A few more photos like these means Epstein will fade into the past. Another gotcha, failed.

J Scott ayon kay ...

Chompsky "not a single penny" from the master dissembler himself

ThreeSheets ayon kay ...

I believe Clinton's look is known as "post-nut clarity"

Paul ayon kay ...

My guess is Dollar Bill Clinton is getting a blow job from a 14 year old girl... I dunno what Chomsky is doing... discussing football?

n.n ayon kay ...

A handmade tale or false light? Throw another baby on the barbie, it's over... what difference, at this point, does it make.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

You'll have bad times, and he'll have good times,
Doin' things that you don't understand,
But if you love him, you'll forgive him,
Even though he's hard to understand.

n.n ayon kay ...

Ambiguous Intelligence (AI) is the new Cloud hosting a server farm of DREAMers and dynamic obfuscation of the third leg of the liberal triad of socially inclusive groomers. Forward! and backward.

Narr ayon kay ...

Reminds me of an episode in a Flashman book--he was bathed and massaged to the point where every muscle in his body was fully relaxed, except one.

Amadeus 48 ayon kay ...

What's that black block above Clinton? Oh yeah, they redacted every picture of a person under-age or a "victim". So, Clinton is floating around with someone who either was under 18 or was a "victim" of Epstein.

I put "victim" in quotes because a lot of Epstein's massage squadron recruited their friends to join up. Many got big payouts from Epstein's estate notwithstanding their recruiting activities.

MartyH ayon kay ...

Why does Epstein drive apparently rationale people insane? These photos tell us nothing significant.

The Clinton picture is context free and apparently undated. The Democrats have disingenuously redacted pictures of women next to Trump; no reason Republicans wouldn’t do the same. Clinton isn’t even skinny dipping; he appears to be wearing trunks.

Chomsky sitting next to Epstein on a plane is evidence of hypocrisy, not criminal activity.

I was red pilled when I tried to find any hard evidence that Trump was tied to Putin. The accusations were all vaporware. My conclusion was that Democrats were unethical power hungry vampires, the FBI their enforcers, and the press their accomplices.

The same innuendo is occurring here.

I’m not defending Epstein or Clinton or anyone.

Put it this way: The Godfather saga is about nine hours long and thus has about 750,000 individual frames. Do you think you could make out the plot based on 10000 of those images in random order? What makes you think two curated pictures tell you anything about the Epstein story?

n.n ayon kay ...

We infer a universe from signals of unknown origin and fidelity outside the limited frame of reference from the observer of scientific integrity. Was it Planned... uh, planned, or inferred is the question.

n.n ayon kay ...

Hah! Diversity (i.e. color judgment, class bigotry), Equivocation, and Innuendo (DEI). Hoisted on their Fani.

Quaestor ayon kay ...

"Chomsky has publicly stated that this money was his own, routed through Epstein-linked accounts while re-organizing shared funds after the death of his first wife, and that it 'did not involve one penny from Epstein.'"

But a few billion pennies from Tehran and Pyongyang.

Olson Johnson is right! ayon kay ...

"Hillary is the most humiliated woman of all time."

But that is her power. She has always (at least as far back as her time at Yale) relished being humiliated by Bill's cheating. In her mind she is standing tall, never going to let them see her cry, let them talk, she will hold her head up high. Think about every Hillary scandal. Email server in the crapper. The Benghazi hearings. Think about the Lewinsky trouble at its height. Or Whitewater or Rose Law Firm billing records being discovered. In all these Hillary would put a 'just smelled a fart' look of distain on her face and stare her enemies down.

But for this type of humiliation to work (from Hillary's perspective) it has to be REAL humiliation. So she never had any fun with the false pizza parlor child abuse stuff or weird random attacks on her. She only rises to the occasion when there is actual deep shame going on.

I will interpret these photos based on Mrs. Clinton's statements and actions. If she goes King of England on Bill and finally divorces the old horn dog then I'll think they are fake, or mostly non-incriminating. If she defends and deflects for ole Bill then I will know that the worst interpretation is the true one.

Quaestor ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Quaestor ayon kay ...

I have a strong suspicion MartyH would be singing a far different tune if it was Donald J. Trump floating in that hot tub.

Ampersand ayon kay ...

For me, the Epstein affair is a demonstration of the ease with which one can infiltrate and subvert our political, economic, and cultural elites.

gadfly ayon kay ...

Marty H said, "I was red pilled when I tried to find any hard evidence that Trump was tied to Putin. The accusations were all vaporware.

No, Marty , you obviously failed to read the words of our stable genius when he declared that he believed Putin and disbelieved his cabinet and security agencies. So you are swallowing your own red pill.

rhhardin ayon kay ...

Lester "A Transformational Grammar of English" picked up for $1.00 on a Woolworth remainders table was the basis of a bloated memorandum writer in 1980 (Festoon). So I credit Chomsky for pioneering work in amusing program development.

Neatly typeset and left on a desk, an actual manager commented, "They pay people to write this crap?"

Lazarus ayon kay ...

Epstein looks shorter and fatter than I pictured him.

If he has a "type" is it really teenaged girls? Could it be frail old men? Noam Chomsky, Woody Allen, Bill Clinton ...

rhhardin ayon kay ...

"Hillary is the most humiliated woman of all time."

Hillary is not getting the job done.

rhhardin ayon kay ...

People forget Webb Hubbell and Chelsea, a likely daughter.

Bob Boyd ayon kay ...

Which would do more damage to Bill Clinton's reputation, a photo of him in a hot tub with a naked teenager or a picture of him in a hot tub with a naked Hillary Clinton?

Lazarus ayon kay ...

Another set of Virgin Island photos, Bill and Hillary dancing on the beach, helped the Clintons get out of Monicagate.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/ghk.h-cdn.co/assets/16/33/1471275675-hillary-clinton-bill-st-thomas.jpg?crop=0.60625xw:1xh;center,top&resize=980:*

But they may be more cringe-y than anything in the Epstein dossier.

doctrev ayon kay ...

Howard said...
So what is Pam Bondi waiting for?

12/20/25, 8:35 AM

An excellent question. My only advice for Kristi Noem is to push even harder, Steve Witkoff needs to do what he's doing, and Pete Hegseth really does have to start retiring some generals.

But Pam Bondi is a top-drawer failure with precious few achievements in a year filled with crime. President Trump needs to explore alternatives.

Bob Boyd ayon kay ...

That is a picture of Chomsky, always the teacher, showing Epstein how to draw dick and balls doodles like Picasso drew them.

tim maguire ayon kay ...

RCOCEAN II said...Chomsky has publicly stated that this money was his own, routed through Epstein-linked accounts while reorganising shared funds after the death of his first wife

I get it. When my wife was executor of her mother’s estate, there were some foreign investments that she routed through Epstein’s accounts. Epstein was cool that way.

Jersey Fled ayon kay ...

Wait a minute. THAT Norm Chomsky?

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Thanks Chris B

narciso ayon kay ...

That would be an ai pic

narciso ayon kay ...

The possum senate refuses to confirm habba hallidan or essayli focus on that

narciso ayon kay ...

Halligan and company

Iman ayon kay ...

Poor Slick Willie…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSd8pgwgKth/?igsh=Mzc3ZTVlOWMwZA==

boatbuilder ayon kay ...

I agree with Marty H. But I think that what is going on is that the Administration is saying "OK you asked for it. This is what we got."
The Epstein nuts will say that that's Trump-or Pam Bondi--who's behind the black box.

Iman ayon kay ...

Oh… you people, Howard… lol…

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

"... you obviously failed to read the words of our stable genius when he declared that he believed Putin and disbelieved his cabinet and security agencies."

You mean the security agencies that illegally spied on him, lied to FISA courts, and lied about endless other things like "Russian disinformation". They were actively trying to destroy him. He was smart enough to not trust them any more than he did Putin. That was a smart call.

Kirk Parker ayon kay ...

Big Mike @ 8:22 AM,

No kidding! I lived through that era (upper division and grad study in linguistics '75-'79.) Fortunately, I was heading for field research in a minority, unwritten language, which endeavors had been sort of ruled "not interesting" by Lord Chomsky, so for the most part we could and did just safely ignore him

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

A married man in a private hot with young women is not the same as Trump posing fully clothed with contestants in a very public Beauty Pageant. It's not even in the same universe, but your efforts to balance on that fence are impressive

Justabill ayon kay ...

Years ago at a Vermont ski lodge, I read the list of things that you were not allowed to do in the hot tub. You couldn’t get me near that thing after that.

Quaestor ayon kay ...

"People forget Webb Hubbell and Chelsea, a likely daughter."

The required DNA samples are obtainable. It's just a matter of money.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

@Kirk Parker, in the early 1970s I was working on a doctoral dissertation in AI tangentially related to spoken language understanding. Comp Sci professors doing research in that field seemed as buffaloed by Chomsky as linguistic professors.

Old and slow ayon kay ...

I saw the most shocking Epstein photo of all today. It was a picture of his server/communications rack. Absolutely shocking display of poor cable management. He must have had a 14 year old girl running his IT. Looked like he had substituted Cisco for Ubiquiti gear and just left the old stuff in the rack.

Leora ayon kay ...

There is a young woman behind the black square sitting in the hot tub as well.

Kirk Parker ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
narciso ayon kay ...

Lol

Kirk Parker ayon kay ...

Big Mike,

Nothing surprising about that. The only thing I ponder is, how did this guy get *so much* influence? I and some of my colleagues found Ken Pike's stuff and the Stratificational Grammar approach a lot more relevant to what we were doing.

[Fixed the glaring error in my previous comment!]

rehajm ayon kay ...

Unfortunately Bondi is doing exactly what the administration wants her to do…

FullMoon ayon kay ...

Lots of semi nude Clinton pics floating around.

FullMoon ayon kay ...

Hillary has no problem with Bill's extra curriculars. The embarrassment is he was caught.
Suspect Chelsea and her husband and in-laws more disgusted than anyone else

narciso ayon kay ...

he seemed to have garnered most attention by his excathedra writing, like american mandarins, which i've labeled a screed, his apologia for the Cambodian genocide, seems not to have dented his or his long tim colleague Edward Herman's credibiility, maybe this will

Smilin' Jack ayon kay ...

Credit where credit is due. Chomsky’s evisceration of B. F. Skinner’s “Verbal Behavior” in a famous New York Review of Books article pretty much ended behaviorism’s influence in linguistics, and psychology generally, and cleared the way for modern psycholinguistics and cognitive science.

narciso ayon kay ...

his principal target in the referred text, Samuel Huntington, seems to have been prophetic in some regards about the cultural melee we find ourselves in, both within countries and within power blocs

Kirk Parker ayon kay ...

Narciso, as in Samuel Huntington the Islam's Bloody Borders author?

Not hard to decide between the two of them

narciso ayon kay ...

you would think so, but academia is not so discerning,

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

After crickets for 4 years, the lefties on here were all about the Epstein files when their bullshit factories were spewing out hope, then Trumps starts releasing the files and now suddenly everybody is busy shopping. Just like everyone knew they would.

rehajm ayon kay ...

Suspect Chelsea and her husband and in-laws more disgusted than anyone else

…it’s not like it was her sad what got caught…

narciso ayon kay ...

again the story is complicated, as some have noticed, the late stanley pottinger, who in an earlier life, identified mark felt, at justice, was later in business with epstein, then involved in iranian hijinks, and at the end of his life was part of the legal team that represented the victims, which dot do you consider, same with adnan khashoggi who reportedly had dealings with him, along with many other figures,

Kakistocracy ayon kay ...

On the one hand, they have redacted Trump’s name from the Epstein Files. On the other hand, they have put it on the Kennedy Center.

Kakistocracy ayon kay ...

At what point does it become Bill Clinton's tariff-laden economic decline?

narciso ayon kay ...

the mezvinsky chistlers, yes they are all verklempt

narciso ayon kay ...

as we found out with larry summers, his association with epstein was only the smallest of his digressions, the wooing of the chinese princess, which worked out very well for him,

narciso ayon kay ...

didn't work out well for him, but pretty good for her,

William ayon kay ...

I'd be shocked and disappointed if Clinton didn't find some way of horning in on the Epstein action. Chomsky though? I think he claims his connection to Epstein was for financial advice. I guess it's possible. Chomsky is pretty gullible. If you believe in the Khmer Rouge, how hard is it to fall for some Epstein investment scheme.........I'm ambivalent about Stephen Hawking. I don't think any girl can claim that he forced himself on her. It may have been a challenging experience for the girl, but it certainly wasn't some kind of nightmare.If Hawking got a few bonus thrills during his sad time on this planet, then good for him.

Achilles ayon kay ...

Kakistocracy said...

On the one hand, they have redacted Trump’s name from the Epstein Files. On the other hand, they have put it on the Kennedy Center.

The Biden DOJ had these files for 4 years.

The Biden FBI/DOJ lied to a FISA court to spy on Trump.

The Biden DOJ coerced the FBI into raiding Trump's house without probably cause.

But this retard thinks Trump is hiding something in the Epstein files.

This is how stupid you have to be to be a democrat voter.

Achilles ayon kay ...

Maynard said...

So what is Pam Bondi waiting for?

What Howard really wants to say is "Look! A squirrel".

I don't know how anyone could honestly defend Pam Bondi.

Not one of the thousands of corrupt criminals are even charged yet.

All we have so far are complete fuck ups with Comey and Leticia James.

Bondi is Barr in a skirt.

Mason G ayon kay ...

"This is how stupid you have to be to be a democrat voter."

To be fair, you don't have to be *that* stupid.

But it helps.

Narr ayon kay ...

"Bondi is Barr in a skirt."

Hey, I just ate.

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

"At what point does it become Bill Clinton's tariff-laden economic decline?"
It's another Kak buy signal, people. It's better than Jim Cramer crying.

Peachy ayon kay ...

I would not get in that water. ew.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Kak - our economy is on fire. Esp the stock market.
No matter what you lying liars on the left - lie about.
Democratic unison lies - like good apparatchiks

Achilles ayon kay ...

Kakistocracy said...

At what point does it become Bill Clinton's tariff-laden economic decline?

One of the best things that can happen for the American people is a drop in overall asset values. Especially single family house prices.

This would show up as a massive net negative for GDP statistics and the 10% of people who own 90% of the assets.

But it would be better for Americans.

And this retard doesn't even know what he doesn't know.

Iman ayon kay ...

“After crickets for 4 years, the lefties on here were all about the Epstein files when their bullshit factories were spewing out hope, then Trumps starts releasing the files and now suddenly everybody is busy shopping. Just like everyone knew they would.”

Hey, c’mon… give ‘em some credit. They aren’t shopping, they’re performing some pagan rituals and enjoying some long pig.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

@Kirk Parker, I saw both the Transformational grammars comment and your correction. I was wondering at the thought that someone made Transformational grammars work because I recall sitting in a lecture where one of the professors was trying to explain how you could use Transformational grammars to resolve the difficulty that "John is eager to please" means something very different from "John is easy to please," even though when spoken the two sentences differ by only one phoneme, which "It is easy to please John" means the same as the second sentence but is very different in structure, particularly when spoken.

I recall being minded of something a professor is supposed to have said to a brash graduate student who tried to explain relativity. "As Einstein formulated it, only ten people in the world could understand it. As you explained it, no one in the whole world could understand it." IOW, the description of the use and abuse of Transformational grammars made no sense to me.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

All I can say is that if somebody offered me a free ride on a business jet down to the Caribbean, I'd take it. Doesn't mean I'd mess around with any woman not my wife. Of course if that someone offering the ride was Greg Biffle, I'd be screwed.

Deep State Reformer ayon kay ...

Like a certain Nobel laureate once wrote , "don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters." All these people are scoundrels, perverts, sociopaths, and murderers, the lot.

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