Nobyembre 4, 2025

"There were forty-three runaways, part of a troop of roughly fifty.... All were rhesus macaques, a species known for its deep communal bonds and larkish intelligence...."

"'Macaques are the marines of monkeys, because they never leave a man behind,' Lisa Jones-Engel, a primatologist and senior science adviser at People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (peta), told me. 'They could have followed the woods and ended up in a rhesus nirvana. What kills me is they were crying for their friends and daughters to come with them.'... Groups that oppose animal testing, historically the province of liberals and progressives, were in the process of forging a delicate alliance with the incoming Trump Administration. An estimated third of the forty-eight-billion-dollar budget of the N.I.H. goes toward funding animal research—and animal protectionists, Make America Healthy Again adherents, and anti-establishment libertarians were realizing that they shared a desire to see that budget slashed...."

From "The Runaway Monkeys Upending the Animal-Rights Movement/A troop of macaques escaped one of the largest primate-breeding facilities in America. Now a strange coalition of uncompromising activists and maga loyalists is demanding that all lab animals be set free" (The New Yorker).
White Coat Waste was founded in 2011 by Anthony Bellotti, a Republican consultant who, while campaigning to defund the Affordable Care Act and Planned Parenthood, discovered that he could reframe the issue of animal experimentation as yet another example of federal misspending. His group eschews associations with “animal rights,” describing itself instead as a government-watchdog organization “uniting liberty-lovers and animal-lovers.”... Unlike other groups that oppose animal research, White Coat Waste does not concern itself with what people eat, wear, or hunt....

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Iman ayon kay ...

When they caged and flingin’ poo
What’s a freedom lovin’ macaque to do?

Dave Begley ayon kay ...

The next frontier for the Left.

Rocco ayon kay ...

Anthony Bellotti, a Republican consultant who, while campaigning to defund the Affordable Care Act and Planned Parenthood, discovered that he could reframe the issue of animal experimentation as yet another example of federal misspending. His group eschews associations with “animal rights,” describing itself instead as a government-watchdog organization “uniting liberty-lovers and animal-lovers.”... Unlike other groups that oppose animal research, White Coat Waste does not concern itself with what people eat, wear, or hunt....

I agree: The government is funding a lot of things that are not core governmental functions.

And kudos to the organization for staying focused on its core mission and not getting involved in other, non-governmental issues. At least so far.

Rocco ayon kay ...

You know the infected, escaped monkeys are how the Planet of the Apes (or rather Planet of the Monkeys) timeline gets started.

Lloyd W. Robertson ayon kay ...

According to Jonathan Swift, Projectors are willing to starve entire human populations with their experiments in order to benefit "posterity"--a much larger number of people. Of course this may have some relevance to producing Covid 19 in a lab. Torturing animals is presumably a trifle by comparison.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Somehow Trump has positioned MAHA to the left of PETA and garnered the attention of the media.

Eric the Fruit Bat ayon kay ...

Setting all the lab animals free won't save any money if they qualify for welfare.

Derve ayon kay ...

DICK CHENEY IS DEAD
and a Muslim American man is poised to capture City Hall in New York City!

Derve ayon kay ...

Baby, we're putting a period to the horrific violent mess that the first quarter of the century has been in America, and putting the American people first... finally.

Derve ayon kay ...

Baby, we're putting a period to the horrific violent mess that the first quarter of the century has been in America, and putting the American people first... finally.

Tell your Boomer friends... The tide has turned in America. November 4, 2025. It's time!

Derve ayon kay ...

wAKE UP ANNIE

You're missing the NEWS STORY OF THE YEAR

DICK CHENEY'S SECOND HEART GAVE OUT

84 YEARS OF EVIL PERSONIFIED...
OVER

Cmon ann.. where's your news nose?
There's even a University of Wisconsin angle to play up...

Get your head out of the money's ass, professor.
Even I will hit your fucking tip jar with coins tonight...

We have not seen a day of celebration like this in this country in my lifetime!!

JOY IN THE STREETS OF AMERICA
Dick Cheney is GONE for good... and all the evil he did to our country and so many others is swept away with him...

Derve ayon kay ...

Silly bitch isn't going to post fresh content for hours now...

What a day to sleep in on the news!

DICK CHENEY DEAD AT ONLY 84 , friends...
and that was only by buying another man's heart.

EVEN GOD IS REJOICING TODAY as Satan licks his chops...
Burn baby burn!
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rehajm ayon kay ...

We're not real close but we were concerned a few might show up here...BUT did you know there's a colony of rhesus monkeys living on an island in South Carolina? Been there since the seventies...

Derve ayon kay ...

BURN BABY BURN
https://subsumed.blogspot.com/2025/11/the-trammps-disco-inferno-but-only-burn.html#comments

Derve ayon kay ...

Wake up get out of bed
rub yer eyes, you old sleepyheads
Ding Dong Dickless Cheney's dead!
He's gone where the goblins go...
Below, Below Below
Yo ho! Let's open up and sing
and ring the bells~!!

Ding Dong evil Dick Cheney's DEAD!
That man did more to bring down America this century than Adolf Hitler did to bring down Germany in the last...

A NEW DAY IN AMERICA...
where you at Boomer Annie? meade got you taking pictures? lolol

Derve ayon kay ...

We interrupt this broad's broadcast...

To post some REAL news for y'all to chew on and commentate.

Cmon annie, it will be your most commented upon post in years... PUT UP THE NEWS

Derve ayon kay ...

rehajm said...
We're not real close but we were concerned a few might show up here...BUT did you know there's a colony of rhesus monkeys living on an island in South Carolina? Been there since the seventies...
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Nobody gives a fuck.
That's just busy work. She is fucking sleeping on the real story... Whatta prof.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

We don’t need monkeys or other lab animals — we can test medicines and cosmetics on illegal immigrants instead.

As a useful side benefit the limousine liberals can improve their exercise regimen by learning how to mow their own damned lawns.

john mosby ayon kay ...

I'ma walkin' in the rain
Tears are fallin' and I feel the pain
Wishin' you were here by me
To fling some poop and scree
I wonder
I wo-wo-wo wonder
Why... why-why-why-why-why
She ran away
And I wonder where she will stay
My monkey runaway
I run-run-run-run runaway

CC, JSM

Derve ayon kay ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9_tzJFB8qw&t=19s

lgv ayon kay ...

All drugs are tested on animals for safety and efficacy. The question is which animal gets tested first. If we eliminate testing on mice, monkeys, etc. The first safety tests will be on humans. Whose baby will we test a new vaccine on? Volunteers? Anyone?

Anyone who says we can substitute non-animal testing for animal testing is living a lie. Even animal testing on one species can faill to detect issues when moving on to another species. If these PETA people get their wish, we are 10 years away from fewer and more dangerous drugs.

Derve ayon kay ...

Y'all boomers be sleeping through the early-morning celebrations!

RideSpaceMountain ayon kay ...

"If these PETA people get their wish..."

I assure you their wish is far more dystopian than your most dystopic imaginings.

Tina Trent ayon kay ...

I would vote for that little lady in Mississippi who blew away the escaped monkey sitting on her trailer's porch because her kids were inside.

I would vote for her twice.

Breezy ayon kay ...

Interesting, rehajm…. From wiki:

“The Morgan Island (in Beaufort County, South Carolina) is home to a large free-ranging colony of rhesus macaques (Rhesus macaque, Macaca mulatta) introduced in the late 1970s. “

Jamie ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
The Vault Dweller ayon kay ...

Would folks be more accepting of testing on the monkeys if instead of a larkish intelligence they had a puckish intelligence? Satyrs traditionally did more than light mischief.

Jamie ayon kay ...

Would folks be more accepting of testing on the monkeys if instead of a larkish intelligence they had a puckish intelligence? Satyrs traditionally did more than light mischief.

Is it armadillos that are among the very few animals that can contract leprosy? A non-sympathetic animal is easier to accept, with apologies to Bloom County. (I'll never forget reading, on a can of diet soda, "This product has been tested on laboratory beagles." I did not need to know that!)

Also... I'm going to repost my earlier comment without the near-doxxing. That wasn't cool.

Jamie ayon kay ...

I'd love to be able to afford the luxury of not having animal testing - but as lgv points out above, that means straight from petri dish to humans. And it doesn't seem to me that that cost is less.

I know they must start with models now - but considering that we keep discovering more and more complexity and structure even in single cells, what makes us think our models are going to capture all relevant variables? See, e.g., climate change.

Government funding could be a separate question. Frankly I haven't paid attention to the subject of animal testing since a college class.

rhhardin ayon kay ...

Macaque monkeys are failed monkeys.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

What’s the bag limit on them there critters?

Wince ayon kay ...

We go wherever we want to,
do what we like to do...
Any time, Or anywhere,
Just look over your shoulder
Guess who'll be standing there


Here we come, walkin'
Down the street.
We get the funniest looks from
Ev'ry one we meet.

Hey, hey, we're the Monkees
And people say we monkey around.
But we're too busy singing
To put anybody down.

We go wherever we want to,
do what we like to do
We don't have time to get restless,
There's always something new.

We're just tryin' to be friendly,
Come and watch us sing and play,
We're the young generation,
And we've got something to say.

Any time, Or anywhere,
Just look over your shoulder
Guess who'll be standing there

Hey, hey, we're the Monkees,
You never know where we'll be found.
so you'd better get ready,
We may be comin' to your town.

Heartless Aztec ayon kay ...

A large tribe of macaques live on the Silver River just outside of Ocala 50 years ago we were floating by in our boat when another boat pulled up to a tree that had fallen over into the water and was full of macaques. First they passed out tall boy Budweisers. The alpha male macaque loved that. Then they passed out a couple of Marlboros and a Zig Zag rolled
Colombian gold bud. The macaques LOVED that. After a
couple of minutes of three stooges monkey stupidness the big alpha macaque male launched himself into their boat look for more Bud and buds. You've never seen two guys jump out of a boat faster, surrounding alligators be damned. The macaques rampaged a bit and eventually went back to his tree perch
Moral of the story? Don't fuck with big monkeys in a boat. There probably some others lessons there too...

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

lgv, IMO people objected more to the outrageous things that were tested on animals that were NOT lifesaving drugs or therapies, and the mutilation of beagles revealed when Fauci left the NIH really shocked people. Everybody wants safe drugs and therapies. No one wants animals unnecessarily tortured. I think the answer will be somewhere in the middle.

rhhardin ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
rhhardin ayon kay ...

There's always Vicki Hearne's refutation What's Wrong with Animal Rights (pdf), about helpless fluff as the popular point about animals.

Peachy+2 ayon kay ...

It's leftists who are cruel. Every time

tcrosse ayon kay ...

The final word on runaways, macaque or otherwise

Dust Bunny Queen ayon kay ...

Mike MJB said Everybody wants safe drugs and therapies. No one wants animals unnecessarily tortured.

Agreed. Testing for life saving drugs and procedures. NOT tortured for stupid and unnecessary things. For vanity products. Look it up, if you have the stomach for it.

Money Manger ayon kay ...

I once had a great conversation with Peter Tork. Fascinating guy.

Peachy+2 ayon kay ...

I would love it if we would stop using animals for experiments.
...So drug companies can get rich.

People - we are all going to die someday. Get over it.

Peachy+2 ayon kay ...

Trump and R's would win in land-slides forever if they banned this animal cruelty via lab-torture. Throw in banning puppy and kitty mills.

Howard ayon kay ...

Another awful aspect of animal testing, especially on dogs, is when they are retired they are not donated to some family who is looking for a rescue they are executed and incinerated.

I heard about this from Bret Weinstein years ago on the Joe Rogan podcast:

The problem with using lab mice in animal testing, where the results may be unreliable or not generalizable to human populations because the mice are genetically uniform and live in an artificial, stress-free environment (making them less robust or "weak" compared to wild mice or humans), is generally referred to by names such as the reproducibility crisis in biomedical research, or more specifically, problems with external validity or translatability of the results.

Jamie ayon kay ...

People - we are all going to die someday. Get over it.

Well, can't argue with that.

But it does seem to me that a stubborn reluctance to accept that every human who, if erectus instead of sapiens, would necessarily die during or at birth, or from a compound fracture that got dirty, or from a chemical-processing defect, has been one of the hallmarks of us as sapiens. How important is mascara that doesn't make your eyes water? I think that research is sufficiently well established such that we don't need to hold rabbits' eyes open any more to test it. But there's still a lot of useful research to be done to improve, lengthen, and even offer a chance at human life.

john mosby ayon kay ...

No one remembers Macaca-Gate?

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2006/08/george-allen-macaca-story.html?m=1

CC, JSM

Jamie ayon kay ...

Howard's point about lab dogs' being put down instead of offered for adoption: I don't know. How good* a pet will that dog be, after what it's gone through?

* By which I mean, hark back to the post last week or so about the utility of a tragic backstory in getting an animal adopted; will that animal's trauma make it unfit to be around humans - untrusting, constantly stressed, possibly defensively aggressive? Such that it gets returned and caged again and again? Is that less cruel than being quickly and painlessly put to sleep? Abused dogs are not abused children, unquestionably worth the effort that must be dedicated to rehabilitating them. And even with abused children, sometimes the adopting or fostering family cannot physically do what is needed to rehab the child or young person, though we all recognize that the effort must be made.

Rocco ayon kay ...

Bob Jovi Runaway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86K-p089R8

Lazarus ayon kay ...

A few years back, many people publicly deplored Fauci's torturing beagles, but nobody I've come across online lately has been demanding the release of research animals lately. Is this something the "journalists" discovered, or invented, or exaggerated?

Rusty ayon kay ...

I saw this movie. It doesn't end well.

n.n ayon kay ...

Slave revolt.

john mosby ayon kay ...

Rocco: great idea!

On the lab bench where you live monkeys talk about their social lives
They test out lipstick, plastic and paint, a touch of sable in their eyes
(All your life) All your life all you've asked when's old Fauci gonna talk to you?
But you were livin' in another world tryna get a message through

No one heard a single word you said
They should have seen it in your eyes
What was goin' around your head?
Ooh, she's a little runaway
Monkey girl learned fast
All those things she couldn't say
Ooh-ooh, she's a little runaway

A different test every night, guaranteed to blow your mind
I see you out in the trees, call me for a wild time
So you sit on a branch alone 'cause there's nothin' left that you can do
There's only pictures posted on the web left there to look at you
You know she likes the lights at night on the laboratory sign?
She don't really mind, it's only love she hoped to find

Ooh, she's a little runaway
Monkey girl learned fast
All those things she couldn't say
Ooh-ooh, she's a little runaway

CC, JSM

Lem Vibe Bandit ayon kay ...

Trump is the least ideological president in modern times.

The Democrats missed their boat, big time, as Dick Cheney would say.

Howard ayon kay ...

Jamie: I only found out about it because one of my friends illegally rescued a dog from a lab by faking its death and the creature ended up living another 15 years how's the well-loved family pet.

Leora ayon kay ...

A friend of mine adopted a dog rescued from a lab. It was a strange dog but she loved it.

Rabel ayon kay ...

Oh, so now you cover the big monkey news.

For two weeks here in deepest, darkest Mississippi I've been hunkered down under a Category Three Monkey Watch* and no one has offered even a word of support, much less volunteered to help man the barricades.

I've seen the movies too. Something must be done. Them little bastards are killers!

*We got one yesterday, it's now Category Two.

Leora ayon kay ...

I don't think the government's involvement in funding medical research has been helpful except in building bureaucracies and promoting consensus science.

Rocco ayon kay ...

Rabel, it sounds serious, like you’re not monkeying around.

Rusty ayon kay ...

they,ll eventually lean to talk,you know.

Rusty ayon kay ...

Wait!! Are they eligible for SNAP benefits?

Immanuel Rant ayon kay ...

They had to escape in time to vote.

RideSpaceMountain ayon kay ...

"Wait!! Are they eligible for SNAP benefits?"

They've been loose for 24+ hours. Already registered.

Iman ayon kay ...

“muhcock?… muhcock!… lemme at ‘em!!!”

—— teabaghag

Eric the Fruit Bat ayon kay ...

I once had a great conversation with Peter Tork. Fascinating guy.

This is the balm I needed.

lgv ayon kay ...

"lgv, IMO people objected more to the outrageous things that were tested on animals that were NOT lifesaving drugs or therapies, and the mutilation of beagles revealed when Fauci left the NIH really shocked people. Everybody wants safe drugs and therapies. No one wants animals unnecessarily tortured. I think the answer will be somewhere in the middle."

That is not what PETA wants. They want the complete elimination of all animal testing. They don't want a middle ground.

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