Nobyembre 12, 2025

"Mr. Epstein’s email from 2019, which claims Mr. Trump 'knew about the girls' and asked Ms. Maxwell 'to stop,' was sent to Mr. Wolff..."

"... who had recently written a tell-all book about the president. Mr. Epstein was months away from the arrest and federal charges that would send him to prison, but he was the focus of significant attention.... In his email, Mr. Epstein mentioned a victim of his sex-trafficking operation. He also mentioned Mar-a-Lago, then disputed that Mr. Trump had ever asked him to resign from the club. 'Never a member ever,' Mr. Epstein wrote...."


This is the top story at the NYT home page right now.

200 komento:

Dave Begley ayon kay ...

This is what the Dems have been waiting for.

But I don't believe it.

Clyde ayon kay ...

This will probably win the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction.

narciso ayon kay ...

Shur that sounds legit

hawkeyedjb ayon kay ...

It may mean something, it may mean nothing. The mass media have no credibility to tell us which is the case. But this will be the top story in the New York Times for the next three years.

narciso ayon kay ...

Of course there is the testimony from tartaglione that says thar was what he was promised

doctrev ayon kay ...

While these fictions are not likely to significantly dent President Trump's popularity, he has to be asking himself why America bothers making life safer for Israel and Mossad.

Howard (not that Howard) ayon kay ...

The "dog that didn't bark" is the Biden administration, trying to hang all sorts of fantasies on Trump, yet never once mentioned "the Epstein files." Occam's Razor says there's no there, there.

narciso ayon kay ...

Also the 2022 settlement with all parties concerned

rehajm ayon kay ...

How dossier of them

Mary Beth ayon kay ...

If a victim spent hours with Trump and his name had not been mentioned to anyone by 2011, it seems the most likely reason is that there was nothing to mention - why that dog wasn't barking.

Wolff was telling Epstein what he wanted to hear with the whole, "it's possible that he'll say Epstein is a great guy who got a raw deal. If they'd actually had leverage, they would have used it.

Aggie ayon kay ...

"...The messages are certain to inflame the debate on Capitol Hill over the Trump administration’s handling of the Epstein files,...."

Or at least, we hope they do. But: Is this news? Didn't I read that Trump have Epstein barred from Mar a Lago because of his behavior with the female staff? If Trump spent time with some of the Epstein underage girls, would this have informed him further? I notice the story is careful to put Trump in their presence without implying or insinuating anything improper. How....very careful of them. Just checking in to make sure I don't hate them enough, yet.

narciso ayon kay ...

New York Post: Epstein claimed prosecutors offered him freedom for exposing Trump - cellmate | УНН https://share.google/O6Iee0xdOx4XBLph1

rehajm ayon kay ...

Can someone point me to the Althouse post on the NYT op-ed published shortly after Trump’s first win where NYT proclaimed they were abandoning journalism because Trump
was too much of a threat?

narciso ayon kay ...

The times practiced journalism when

Peachy ayon kay ...

paywall. so - cannot comment on the NYT article.

I will say this- what are the dates in question?

tim maguire ayon kay ...

Unsupported allegations based on hearsay are the top story at the New York Times?

Quelle surprise.

narciso ayon kay ...

Like the last 10 hoaxes they presented

Kevin ayon kay ...

In other news, Mitt Romney never paid income taxes and Donald Trump is a Russian spy.

narciso ayon kay ...

The victim is guiffre who expressly denied this in her memoir

Steven ayon kay ...

The more interesting part comes at the end:

“I think you should let him hang himself,” he wrote of Mr. Trump. “If he says he hasn’t been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable P.R. and political currency” that could be used to “hang him” later or “save him, generating a debt.”

So, Trump's activities with Epstein were sufficiently scandalous that they could be used to "hang him" or "generate a debt".

narciso ayon kay ...

This was what tartaglione suggested they would try to get epstein to do

Paul ayon kay ...

And didn't Trump kick Epstein out of Mar-a-lago?? And Trump never went to his island? And yet the Dollar Bill's (Gates and Clinton) did.

narciso ayon kay ...

They dont even write interesting stories

Dude1394 ayon kay ...

Nothing the anYTimes writes should ever be taken as honest. NOTHING. I doubt this is as well.

narciso ayon kay ...

Odd he would hang himself if he had that information

Aggie ayon kay ...

@Steven: Hmm, 'sufficiently scandalous', or are you wish-casting? .."“If he says he hasn’t been on the plane or to the house".. Has he said that? Sounds like someone accustomed to the ways of blackmailing, no? Tell us again How did Epstein get his wealth? Where did it come from?

boatbuilder ayon kay ...

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it, Steven?

narciso ayon kay ...

Unlike bill burns or ehud barak

boatbuilder ayon kay ...

I think you should let him hang himself

In hindsight, a very poor choice of words by Wolff.

narciso ayon kay ...

Um yes phrasing

Humperdink ayon kay ...

Kak is late to the party. I’m stunned.

narciso ayon kay ...

Allegedly les wexner and the apollo group founder who had an investment stake in telemundo

Mary Beth ayon kay ...

I will say this- what are the dates in question?

The emails were 2011 and 2015.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-jeffrey-epsteins-newly-released-emails-about-trump

narciso ayon kay ...

Michael wolff has a record of spurious allegations

narciso ayon kay ...

Four years apart two years after he had been freed from jail

Jersey Fled ayon kay ...

I know about pedophilia but don’t indulge. I also have a relative who was convicted and served 16 years in jail. I haven’t seen him or spoken to him since. And I never will.

Does that make me a pedophile?

Matt ayon kay ...

They've been trying to destroy Trump for 10 years and the investigation had been going on for what, 15? 20? And they just found that now? After 4 years of a Dem administration?

Sure.

Peachy ayon kay ...

These supposed e-mails - have a Mapes-Rather flavor.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Thanks Mary Beth.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Outstanding! Such a convenient letter for the conspiracy nuts on the left. Why should we prosecute all the leftists and uniparty members who we KNOW were on Epstein Island when we can chase the great orange whale! You know, the ONE solitary billionaire and celebrity who stood up to and banished that little man and actually cooperated with the FBI to have him arrested.

This is in direct response to the Comey memo released last week. No not JIM Comey, his scumbag daughter Maureen Comey, who when designated to prosecute Epstein four years ago instead told him there was one way out: If he gave them a story of Trump being with Epstein victims then Comey would drop charges. "No evidence needed" she told him. As long as Trump's lawyers "could not reliably dispute the accusations" then DOJ would make another sweetheart deal like they did in 2012 under Obama.

It was a bombshell revelation showing that the treasonous tendencies of the Comey family are indeed an inherited trait. Not interesting enough for Corporate Media to break into shutdown theatre over, or even mention in most cases. But it was big, and showed how far gone the DOJ was under Garland, 100% focused on ginning up Trump Prosecution Blitz Part 2.

Peachy ayon kay ...

So the Dems are looking to ensnare Musk, too.

Wow - big shock. Remember - the left will manufacture 'evidence"
Lying liars who lie - do that.

chuck ayon kay ...

Wow, the NY Times is still trying to make Trump a Democrat.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Mike Wolf -
yeah - the comey family = scum.

Original Mike ayon kay ...

Anybody who believes the media at this point is either a partisan or a fool. The BBC slander is only the latest in a long string of fabrications.

deepelemblues ayon kay ...

So Trump told Ghislaine Maxwell to stop? Why would he do that if he was cool with Epstein and her pimping?

NorthOfTheOneOhOne ayon kay ...

Alan Dershowitz, who's seen a lot of the Epstein "files" because he got sued by one of the women involved, has said that there are a lot more Democrat than Republican names in the "files". I suspect we're a long way from this being over and the Left may rue the day they went down this road.

NKP ayon kay ...

Like the rest of you, I wasn't there, so I don't know.

BUT, sensing this is the latest version of "Trump is a Russian who can just grab 'em by the pussy," I think the NYT is now in the soup.

Ronald J. Ward ayon kay ...

It does seem to be dominating some headlines and Grijalva hours away from signing a discharge petition.

Should be an interesting week of distractions. Might be a good time to blow up Venezuela?

tommyesq ayon kay ...

Mentioned "multiple times" over 15 years of emails hardly seems like a big deal. None of them were authored by Trump or written directly to Trump, but were instead written to an author, likely Epstein trying to puff up his own importance.

mezzrow ayon kay ...

We know what the dinner conversation will be at all the very best places for the next few months. Time to go look up 2Way this morning and see if they are chewing on this one.

If it's in the NYT, if must be right. Right?

Right?

John henry ayon kay ...

Michael Wolff is employed by the Hollywood Reporter.

That's the magazine that created the Hollywood Blacklist in a personal snit by the publisher in 1948.

The publisher's son ran a lengthy apology a couple years back.

They've gone downhill since 48.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/blacklist-thr-addresses-role-65-391931/

John Henry

Howard ayon kay ...
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Kakistocracy ayon kay ...

The fact that Trump says many of Epstein’s girls were poached from Mar-a-Lago—and that Trump owned the Miss Teen USA pageant—is on people’s minds.

Howard ayon kay ...

Wow this is a mother freaking bombshell. It's all over but the crying. Finally, The smoking gun that will effectively end Donald Trump's presidency.

In other words, another Nothing Burger. This is actually great news for Trump, assuming this is the best they have. This revelation seems to have you people excited, though. How does it feel to be emotionally controlled by ones and zeros translated into photons and sound waves?

n.n ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Marcus Bressler ayon kay ...

If it appears in the NYTimes, I assume it to be false. Change my mind.

n.n ayon kay ...

NYeT jumps the Ass with a handmade tale, again, and again, and again.

FullMoon ayon kay ...

"This is the top story at the NYT home page right now. "

Good timing. Divert attention from dem anger over poor children being fed and govt employees back from paid vacations.

Skeptical Voter ayon kay ...

Well if Epstein was "never a member ever at Mar A Lago" then isn't all this lefty eyewash about Trump and Epstein just that--a chimera of progressive fantasy mixed with liberal helpings of feedlot dust?

tommyesq ayon kay ...

So, Trump's activities with Epstein were sufficiently scandalous that they could be used to "hang him" or "generate a debt".

More like the activities that Epstein apparently accused Trump of, which may or may not have actually happened and may or may not have been accurately reported by the relentless social climber to the famous author he was trying to impress, may have been somehow "scandalous."

D.D. Driver ayon kay ...

Based upon flight records, how many times did Donald Trump ride on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet and who were the other passengers on those flights?

For me, it's a huge problem if Trump had "no clue." It's a problem either way. He either looked the other way and didn't stop it. Or he is the biggest stupiest dipshit of all time who didn't know a giant pedophile ring was using his property as a hunting ground.

Either way its bad for Donnie.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane 26 times.
Bill Clinton invited Epstein to the White House.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Tea-Liar - / cultist -
You got real dirt on Musk?
You are the cultist of Rather-Mapes.

n.n ayon kay ...

AIs are known to hallucinate, then bray for leverage with benefits.

Progressives are known to project with liberal license. #MeToo #HateLovesAbortion

Sexual orientation is not a cause for discrimination. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #LoveWins

Irreconcilable.

Original Mike ayon kay ...

"He either looked the other way and didn't stop it."

How, exactly, would he stop the ill-defined "it"?

Mr. D ayon kay ...

Observations for this fine November day:

1) Getting an Al Capone's Vault vibe from this morning's reporting. Has anyone checked in with Geraldo?

2) Kak is gonna need to check in with Grainger to get replacement casters for the goalposts he keeps moving around.

3) The Northern Lights were really spectacular yesterday. If you can, go out and look for them tonight.

n.n ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Readering ayon kay ...

Another indication Trump nuts to sue Rupert Murdoch over Epstein birthday card.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Enjoy having a "huge problem" with Trump then. Oh yeah, you say a variation of that every day. So you'll always have something to imagine being a "huge problem" triple D. It's a win-win!

n.n ayon kay ...

Roe, Ruth, and Pedo are the liberal triad of social progress.

Kakistocracy ayon kay ...

I guess we know why Trump, Bondi, Patel and Mike Johnson have been covering up the Epstein files. I’m sure there is a whole lot more and a whole lot worse.

I want to know about the money when it starts getting down to it. Banks do a good job of retaining records of transactions.

jim ayon kay ...

"... there are a lot more Democrat than Republican names in the "files". I suspect we're a long way from this being over and the Left may rue the day they went down this road."

You assume that democrats, or anyone with an ounce of integrity, wants to protect pedophiles because they happen to be aligned politically.

Why was the house of representatives kept out of session for the last month or more?

Aggie ayon kay ...

.."For me, it's a huge problem if Trump had "no clue." It's a problem either way. He either looked the other way and didn't stop it. ..." Huge? Or 'Yuuuge'?

Well, that takes care of Trump as 'private citizen'. Now do: FBI.

Iman ayon kay ...

Man… when they get to the bottom of this Epstein Squirrel Thing, houses will become more affordable, 0bama’s healthcare folly will be corrected and we won’t be going to war with China.

And many other things! What the absolute fuck is wrong with these people!?!?!?!?!?!?

narciso ayon kay ...

How much time you got,?

hombre ayon kay ...

Dead people and invisible people continue to provide fodder for the NYT.

D.D. Driver ayon kay ...

"Well, that takes care of Trump as 'private citizen'. Now do: FBI."

What is your point here? That Trump is as corrupt as the FBI? Do think that's a good argument? Derp.

Howard (not that Howard) ayon kay ...

Hey Kak, why did Biden cover up the files as well? He never mentioned them.

D.D. Driver ayon kay ...


How, exactly, would he stop the ill-defined "it"?

Well: did he ever report it to the police?

Derp.

Howard (not that Howard) ayon kay ...

It's so cute the lefties are trying their hand at conspiracy theories. Unfortunately, they're as good at them as they are at memes.

PM ayon kay ...

Breaking news: Men Chase Boo.

Aggie ayon kay ...

Trump, as a private citizen, brought Epstein to the attention of the FBI and cooperated with their investigation. Tell us again what 'derp' means?

D.D. Driver ayon kay ...

Give me a complete bio of Mark Middleton, the passenger of the May 15, 1994 flight. Tell me about his origins, his connections to the Clinton White House, the controversies around him, and tell me about how he died.

What if the Clinton suicide list had nothing to do with Whitewater after all? Still if Trump took a flight with Vince Foster, wouldn't you as him questions about it? He has never answered questions about what he was doing with Middleton.

D.D. Driver ayon kay ...

Trump, as a private citizen, brought Epstein to the attention of the FBI and cooperated with their investigation. Tell us again what 'derp' means?

When? 😂

Kakistocracy ayon kay ...

The only thing democrats should be saying today is “the entire republican party is engaged in a coverup of the most notorious child sex trafficking ring in world history”.

Iman ayon kay ...

DeeDee’s DooDoo

Iman ayon kay ...

Shorter kak: May the circle jerk be unbroken…

n.n ayon kay ...

Trump spoke of social liberal club, which induced progressive palpitations. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #MeToo

doctrev ayon kay ...

Kakistocracy said...
The only thing democrats should be saying today is “the entire republican party is engaged in a coverup of the most notorious child sex trafficking ring in world history”.

11/12/25, 10:57 AM

Are the Democrats really going to take the advice of their least intelligent drone? I hope so. Against four years of inaction from Biden and Chuck Schumer, things would get incredibly uncomfortable for American Jews.

Dogma and Pony Show ayon kay ...

Wake me up when somebody has actual evidence that Trump committed crimes involving underage girls. All we ever get is guilt by (mostly imagined) association.

RCOCEAN II ayon kay ...

Yeah, who could more trustworthy than pedophile blackmailer working for foreign intelligence. Yeah, I believe it. Sure.

RCOCEAN II ayon kay ...

People don't seem to understand that the Establishment was wiretapping Trump, and turned over every rock to find something to hang him with. If Epstein had a TRump connnection it would've come out by now.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

I guess we know why Trump, Bondi, Patel and Mike Johnson have been covering up the Epstein files

You seem supremely ignorant of the facts. Bondi released all the "Epstein files" that are not under court order. Judges blocked the rest. These fake letters are your side's last attempt to wring something from the Epstein story before it is banished to old news land, where all the Clinton Scandals go to die.

Oh that rape? It's old news, Dear. Not our kind.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

They know it IMPLICITLY rcocean. They do know. But they got nothing good to talk about so they make up more evil shit, part projection part bad habit. They just can't quit Trump. He's their huckleberry.

Immanuel Rant ayon kay ...

Finally. . . .

The wheels are closing in!

The walls are coming off!

Lem Vibe Bandit ayon kay ...

How is Trump keeping “a victim” silent again?

I must be missing something.

Achilles ayon kay ...

Kakistocracy said...
The only thing democrats should be saying today is “the entire republican party is engaged in a coverup of the most notorious child sex trafficking ring in world history”.

The FBI spent years lying to FISA courts in order to spy on Trump.

If the DOJ had emails like this they would have come out in 2017.

You are just a fucking retard who will believe anything your democrat masters put in front of you. A clapping seal is more intelligent than people claiming Trump is in the Epstein files.

Achilles ayon kay ...

D.D. Driver said...

How, exactly, would he stop the ill-defined "it"?

Well: did he ever report it to the police?

He did report Epstein to investigators.

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

If Epstein had a TRump connnection it would've come out by now.

Trump had a Epstein connection, there is no doubt about that. (There is plenty of documentary evidence of Trump, Melania, Epstein and Maxwell, at parties together). The question is whether Trump ever utilized Epstein's harem, and if he did, how old were the women or girls.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

I heard that Trump had the Epstein girls pee on the bed.

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

He did report Epstein to investigators.

Citation needed.

Lem Vibe Bandit ayon kay ...

It’s wall to wall Epstein, on the radio and television.

Aaron ayon kay ...

It would be far more convincing if sudden converts to the Epstein Files would forcefully request prosecution of Bill Clinton. He's right there, guys. He's not dead.

or is he somehow "clean bill of health" now?

LOL.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

’I guess we know why Trump, Bondi, Patel and Mike Johnson have been covering up the Epstein files.’

It’s weird how Biden never released them, right?

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

Another indication Trump nuts to sue Rupert Murdoch over Epstein birthday card.

I know he threatened to do this. Did he ever follow through?

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

It’s weird how Biden never released them, right?

And it isn't that Trump is sandbagging too?

DINKY DAU 45 ayon kay ...

The guy is president, he is immune to all, today's words of wisdom "I know you are, but what am I" Yes probably a good time for the admin to kill some people and blow some S%#& up. Betcha! Beaucoup Dinky Dau...

Old and slow ayon kay ...

I can only assume that there are very good reasons why neither Biden nor Trump has released the files (whatever they may be). I would guess that there are many powerful people who would be wrecked by disclosure, and it is more sensible to hang on to the blackmail material. Epstein was working with the intelligence services, and they aren't going to throw away their leverage. Just to be sure, I would guess that they might have salted some Trump information into the mix. Biden was a retard, but there is no reason to assume his handlers were also stupid. Also, I really don't give a damn what is in the files. If it is useful, then keep on using it.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

’And it isn't that Trump is sandbagging too?’

Why would Biden withhold magnificent dirt on Trump?

Peachy ayon kay ...

How is Trump immune from leftist lies and leftist terrorism?

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

I assume this is a distraction from the new files Bondi just released to the judiciary committee, re: the Clinton Global Initiative.

Original Mike ayon kay ...

"I heard that Trump had the Epstein girls pee on the bed."

!

n.n ayon kay ...

Wielding Cecile's Scalpel does not garner confidence that Trump was leveraged with #MeToo, but not indulging the liberal triad, notably the pedo foot.

Josephbleau ayon kay ...

Some things are so dumb that only a democrat could believe them.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

I have read those e-mails ten times each- I don't get what the scandal for Trump is supposed to be here? In one of the e-mails, Epstein is demonstrably lying about having been a member at Mar-a-lago- there is literal documentation that proves this was a lie, though, at the date of the e-mail, 2019, might not have yet been made public, so Epstein felt that there was no reason to not lie about it.

Also, in context, "VICTIM" was Giuffre who literally, under oath, denied any impropriety on the part of Donald Trump. So, on balance, one must conclude that any implied impropriety by Epstein in that e-mail is also either a mistake or a lie. What was fascinating about the e-mails is that Wolff was very clearly coaching Epstein on how he might gain leverage over Trump by shaping public responses to the CNN interview, depending on how Trump answered the questions- in short, it looks very probable that Wolff and Epstein were planning on additional lies.

Since the House committee has all the documents except for the child porn videos and the grand jury testimony, then this is apparently all the House Democrats have that "damage" Trump- no wonder Merrick Garland didn't release any of it- it literally answers the question of why Biden didn't use it- he didn't use it because it was really a big fat nothing and almost certainly would have backfired in an active campaign against Trump.

To date, none of the women involved in this story have implicated Trump in any wrong-doing at all. None have gone public either with contrary stories, even those who testified to the grand jury through either verbal testimony or deposed testimony. We can reasonably be sure the grand jury testimony is also a big zero since it isn't controlled by Trump friendly judges- if there was anything in them that damaged Trump, the judges would have found a way to release it when appealed to earlier this Summer.

Third Coast ayon kay ...

NYT to the BBC:
"Hold my beer"

Dave Begley ayon kay ...

Why hasn't this been released before?

How do we know this isn't made up? Just like the Russia hoax was made up.

imTay ayon kay ...
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Third Coast ayon kay ...

For some reason while reading the Lefties' gleeful commentary as they feverishly type away, Jeffrey Toobin comes to mind.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

How do we know this isn't made up? Just like the Russia hoax was made up.

We do know it was made up because it is Michael "Give me the Gorilla Channel" Wolff. He has a history as a Trump fabulist from way back.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Freder this admin went to court to get ALL of the records released. And they did release everything the courts allowed them to. You guys remain stubbornly unaware that DOJ rules prohibit naming "suspects" unless an indictment has been secured, right? They can't just throw out a list of everybody who visited the island. But others have released that list already. And we do have Giuffre's testimony, which was given under oath, and it disputes this letter, which was not submitted under oath nor with testimony that it is true.

Is it really true that all the lefties on here get 100% of their news from Althouse's posts and snippets overheard on MSNBC? Because there are vast resources you are missing if that's the case. Vast. Yuuuuuge resources.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

I asked AI Inga what else Wolff says:

Wolff claimed in "Fire and Fury" that Trump dictated tweets because he couldn't type them himself, a detail disputed by aides who confirmed his proficiency. He also asserted the entire White House staff deemed Trump mentally unfit from day one, including outlandish tales of Melania weeping on election night—denied by participants and fact-checkers like PolitiFact. Later books peddled unverified plots, such as Ivanka scheming a presidential run by undermining her father, prioritizing buzz over evidence.

Yep just as truthful as the Gorilla Channel bullshit and smearing the dead victim Virginia Giuffre now that she can't sue him.

Leland ayon kay ...

If the emails were 2011 and 2015, after Epstein had already spent some time in jail yet prior to his arrest again; why would Epstein be incriminating himself in emails? Has anyone thought to ask that question in the article? We are to seriously believe that Epstein was even implying in emails that he was involved in criminal “conduct” that others were aware? Hell, just that is enough to suggest conspiracy to conduct criminal activities. Why would Epstein email this?

Iman ayon kay ...

Well: did he ever report it to the police?

He did report Epstein to investigators.

DeeDee: “Slurp”

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

David, I think the e-mails are authentic but as I wrote above the point of the Wolff e-mails was to try to gain leverage over Trump in some manner after the investigation into Epstein was reopened in 2019- it really does sound like Wolff was suggesting Epstein make up whatever would contradict the answers in the interview which hadn't happened yet.

As for the Maxwell e-mails, it sounds like Epstein believed Trump was one of the people that had informed on him in exactly the same way a lot of people think Ray Epps is the dog that didn't bark in the January 6th fitups.

James K ayon kay ...

Even if the emails are authentic, they don’t seem particularly damning. First, while I’m not a lawyer, aren’t they textbook examples of hearsay? The fact that Epstein wrote something in an email doesn’t make it true. Second, even if true (impossible to know) what did he write? “He knows about the girls.” Knows what about which girls? “He spent hours at my house with [victim].” In the same room? Did he know she was a “victim”? Was this at a party with 100 people? These would get laughed out of court, though granted here we’re dealing only with the court of public opinion, so anything goes.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

Ok, I made an error in the timing- Wolff and Epstein were writing in 2015, not 2019. Somone on another site had first linked me to the story with a description e-mails from 2011 and 2019 and I didn't even look at the dates, just the sender's names. So Wolff was trying to get Epstein to contradict Trump during the primary run prior to the 2016 election.

Original Mike ayon kay ...

"the Gorilla Channel bullshit"

I'd forgotten about that!

Dave Begley ayon kay ...

The Dems and the Fake News are experts at smearing people with headlines. The Russia hoax is a prime example.

Now, the headline is out that Epstein supposedly wrote that "Trump new about the girls."

The whole thing is probably made up. But the damage is done. Tonight on MSNBC and CNN there will be an extensive discussion that Trump was having sex with underage females.

Levi Starks ayon kay ...

It would be so easy to believe if it were Biden.

rehajm ayon kay ...

This is the top story at the NYT home page right now.

Right now? What? Is it 2019 again already?

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

’Tonight on MSNBC and CNN there will be an extensive discussion that Trump was having sex with underage females.’

I hope and pray that they cross the legal line of slander.

Christopher B ayon kay ...

I see Yancey may have covered this but, as explained in this post by Techno Fog, the redacted victim named in the email is Virginia Giuffre. As Techno notes, this story is essentially accusing Giuffre of perjury in her deposition and she is, of course, unable to dispute the claim.

D.D. Driver ayon kay ...

How was Jeffrey Epstein discovered by authorities? Is there any evidence that Donald Trump turned him in?

Derp.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

What’s the goal of this release, particularly the timing? Distract from the Clinton files? Distract from the shutdown loss? Force him to release the Epstein files? This isn’t an accident and the timing isn’t coincidental.

FullMoon ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
n.n ayon kay ...

Trump warned people about Gropers. #BidenToo

FullMoon ayon kay ...

Shut down over.
Epstein back, lol!

Christopher B ayon kay ...

Also, as a couple of other people have noted, the Wolff email is exactly what I have been saying is the most likely scenario for Epstein blackmail. It was always unlikely, though not impossible, that actual compromising material would be collected on a mark. It was always much more likely that marks would be threatened with difficult to dispute rumors or allegations of having engaged in salacious activities.

MacMacConnell ayon kay ...

Oversight Committee
@GOPoversight
Why did Democrats cover up the name when the Estate didn't redact it in the redacted documents provided to the committee?

It's because this victim, Virginia Giuffre, publicly said that she never witnessed wrongdoing by President Trump.

Democrats are trying to create a fake narrative to slander President Trump.

Inga ayon kay ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein-vote-boebert.html

“Trump Ramps Up Pressure on G.O.P. To Thwart Epstein Vote
Representative Lauren Boebert, one of the Republicans pressing for more Epstein disclosures, was summoned for a meeting in the White House Situation Room.”

Why is Trump and the GOP so threatened by the full release of the files? If it has something to do with national security, the Mossad, other powerful or influential men or entities, donors, the Trump administration could say so without naming names. Today’s release of emails seemed to put the GOP in a tizzy. They can’t refuse to swear in Adelita Grijalva anymore, but they can pressure Nancy Mace and Bo Bo Boebert to remove their names from the discharge petition.

Inga ayon kay ...
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Howard ayon kay ...
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Howard ayon kay ...

Well this does look like a huge nothing Burger, one needs to remember that president Donald j Trump number 47 and 45 RAN on a plank of fully disclosure of Epstein files to let it all hang out letting the chips fall where they may

I think this is what the kids these days call an "own goal"

Inga ayon kay ...

I guess it never occurred to anyone that Virginia Giuffre lied about Trump not being involved with the sexual abuse of underage girls, including herself, because she was frightened for her life from him and others. She said there were “scores” of powerful men she was trafficked to.

Third Coast ayon kay ...

What Full Moon said at 1:42. Credit where credit is due; the MSM is really good at narrative shifting at the drop of a dime.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Inga- You are saying Trump abused Virginia Guiffre.
You have proof?

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

’I guess it never occurred to anyone that Virginia Giuffre lied about Trump not being involved with the sexual abuse of underage girls, including herself, because she was frightened for her life from him and others.’

She wasn’t afraid of the two people who actually trafficked her (Epstein and Maxwell) and their ties to other powerful people, but she was afraid of Trump? lol

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

Where is Inga’s proof that Virginia lied under oath?

Peachy ayon kay ...

"Democrats intentionally redacted the name of the "victim" in the Epstein emails they released.

The unreacted version shows that it was Virginia Guiffre.

Guiffre had testified multiple times that President Trump did nothing and that she never even saw him at Epstein's house."

Link

LOL - Democrats and their loyal cultists - like Inag - are, uh - lying again. In unison. As always.

narciso ayon kay ...

More crap sandwich on pumpernickel, we're out of rye

narciso ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Peachy ayon kay ...

Hey - Inag - who needs proof when you can pull it out of Maddow's ass?

narciso ayon kay ...

https://share.google/4Bl62HswY2bZ0eFNa

Peachy ayon kay ...

Inga Just Wrote this and clicked "publish": - Yes really.

"I guess it never occurred to anyone that Virginia Giuffre lied about Trump not being involved with the sexual abuse of underage girls, including herself, because she was frightened for her life from him and others. She said there were “scores” of powerful men she was trafficked to."
-- Inga

Inga ayon kay ...

Yes, really Peachy, because you’re one of the stupid ones who this never occurred to. Maybe you’ll think more clearly when your head isn’t up Donald’s old wrinkly ass.

Original Mike ayon kay ...

D.D. Driver said..."How was Jeffrey Epstein discovered by authorities? Is there any evidence that Donald Trump turned him in?"

"Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist."

Derp.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Inga- you drop an imagined pile of BS - and when asked for proof - you cannot provide it.

Inga ayon kay ...

Adelita Grijalva now finally worn in.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Inag - you also swallowed whole the BBC's cut and paste deceptive Lying -(Trump's Jan 6th speech)
We dare to watch this -
You will learn that the actual speech was so cut and paste by the leftists deception team (MSNBC) at the BBC

BBC top brass - who used to run MSNBC, no less, have resigned over it.

Inag still buys the cut and paste/lie version. Because it is what you want to believe. Same thing here with these e-mails. You are creating a scenario that is not at all real or proven. Why? Because you are a dedicated leftist, an idiot and you love lies.

Disparity of Cult ayon kay ...

Inga said...
Adelita Grijalva now finally worn in.

11/12/25, 3:14 PM

I hope she's feeling OK.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

’Adelita Grijalva now finally worn in.’

That’s a terrible thing to say about a woman on a thread about sexual abuse.

Inga ayon kay ...

“I hope she's feeling OK.”

She looked like she felt more than just OK. Powerful speech, lots of cheering and clapping.

Inga ayon kay ...

“Adelita Grijalva now finally worn in.’”

Ahhh, so that’s where your minds go to, LOL!

Craig Mc ayon kay ...

Michael Wolff, eh?

Jim at ayon kay ...

Yawn.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

It was your Freudian slip, Inga. Quite the tell…

hombre ayon kay ...

The NYT redacted the name of the victim. Why? Because the same document provided to Congress named the victim, Virginia Giuffre, who publicly said that she never witnessed wrongdoing by President Trump.

It’s just what the Democrats and their pet mediaswine do, lie.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

The New York Times burned up its credibility many years ago by pushing hoaxes and publishing made-up “facts.” Only fools snd idiots give it any credence whatsoever. Years ago the tabloid New York Post surpassed it as a credible news source.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

Question. Did Giuffre really kill herself? Or was she Epsteined when she refused to implicate Donald Trump?

Inga ayon kay ...

“It was your Freudian slip, Inga. Quite the tell…”

Nah, it was autocorrect injecting a bit of levity in this sad disturbing thread.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

’Did Giuffre really kill herself? Or was she Epsteined when she refused to implicate Donald Trump?’

Sadly, we’re at a level of corruption in this nation where I can’t just laugh at such a scenario. Ugh.

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“Question. Did Giuffre really kill herself? Or was she Epsteined when she refused to implicate Donald Trump?”

Good question, however it was more likely that she was going to implicate Trump or some other powerful man or government entity.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

’Nah, it was autocorrect injecting a bit of levity in this sad disturbing thread.’

True.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

’Good question, however it was more likely that she was going to implicate Trump or some other powerful man or government entity.’

I don’t know if it was more likely, but your scenario could also be true. Ugh, again.

D.D. Driver ayon kay ...

Original Mike.

Whoops. Here you go, buddy.

Iman ayon kay ...

Igna has a sad and is quite disturbed.

Kevin ayon kay ...

This has all the legitimacy of a note from Epstein's mother.

Iman ayon kay ...

"The full context of these email exchanges is not clear from the portions released by the committee Democrats."

—— ABC News

Leland ayon kay ...

This is what we get instead of any coverage on operation Arctic Frost.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

Wow- Virginia Giuffre's name was redacted by the Democrats who released this? That is damning. First, she is not only already dead, but she has already testified more than once, under oath, about what had happened to her- there is only one reason her name was redacted here- because it obscures the fact that "VICTIM" had already exonerated Trump in no uncertain terms. If her name isn't redacted, then any story about the new e-mails is obligated ethically to discuss her sworn testimony.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

You really can't hate these lying sacks of shit and their supporters nearly enough.

narciso ayon kay ...

I think you're insulting the sacks, Yancey, as usual I look for the dog that didn't bark, in this case, mention of the 2022 settlements,

Peachy ayon kay ...

Breaking News- Idiot Inga(D) leftwing a-hole.
Some Russian Oligarchs on a yacht - were spotted talking to each other about Trump raping children! Maddow can read lips thru her binoculars!

Achilles ayon kay ...

Inga said...

I guess it never occurred to anyone that Virginia Giuffre lied about Trump not being involved with the sexual abuse of underage girls, including herself, because she was frightened for her life from him and others. She said there were “scores” of powerful men she was trafficked to.

Wow. You are a truly depraved piece of shit.

You know that if Giuffre had been trafficked to Trump that the Biden DOJ would have put Trump in jail forever. Not even you are stupid enough to miss that.

But you make up an obvious lie to justify your hatred and your desire to kill your political opponents.

This is just pure evil.

Iman ayon kay ...

Techno Fog
@Techno_Fog

These Epstein/Maxwell emails reference Virginia Giuffre.

Giuffre's testimony contradicts them:

She never saw Trump and Epstein together.

Trump never acted inappropriately towards her (no sex and no flirting).

She was never at Epstein's house with Trump.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/11/12/the-democrats-latest-trump-epstein-smear-actually-vindicates-trump-n4945915

tcrosse ayon kay ...

Some people hate Trump. But for them Hate is an unenlightened emotion. So they rationalize it by ascribing all sorts of hateful things to Trump.

Achilles ayon kay ...

By the way all of the emails are out now not just the selective leaks by Democrat pieces of shit.

They completely exonerate Trump in every possible way.

narciso ayon kay ...

'we've already seen this movie' move along,

narciso ayon kay ...

and the Dems vote down the floor vote on the files,

Iman ayon kay ...

“The funny thing is that Democrats released more emails on Wednesday, including one that undermines the narrative they’re trying to push. The email from Wolff to Epstein shows Wolff attempting to extract damaging information about Trump before the 2016 election. "There's an opportunity to come forward this week and talk about Trump in such a way that could garner you great sympathy and help finish him," Wolff wrote days before the 2016 election. "Interested?" he asked. No replies to Wolff's solicitation were released by the Democrats. The problem was that Epstein had no dirt on Trump, hence the reason we don’t have any replies in that email exchange. Here's the real question: If Wolff's emails were so damaging, why didn't he release them sooner? He clearly wanted to get Trump but obviously didn't think they were damaging enough to release earlier.“

narciso ayon kay ...

they got less than bupkis, they got gornisch

Kakistocracy ayon kay ...

Releasing the Epstein files could have a chilling effect on future presidents' ability to hide their history of raping children on a private island owned by a convicted sex offender.

James K ayon kay ...

"hide their history of raping children on a private island owned by a convicted sex offender."

But enough about Clinton already.

Jim at ayon kay ...

I guess it never occurred to anyone that Virginia Giuffre lied about Trump not being involved with the sexual abuse of underage girls, including herself, because she was frightened for her life from him and others.

You know why it never occurred to us? Because it's insane.

What is it about Trump that makes you go complete nutbar?

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

"What is it about Trump that makes you go complete nutbar?

Inga has been commenting here long before Trump was a GOP candidate- I assure you, she was nutbar before Trump.

GRW3 ayon kay ...

All you need to know is that when presented with a bill to release the information, Dems voted "no" today.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

I love this fakenews blowing up in their faces. Ooh look Coyote, you got a new box from Acme. Is that a fuse burning towards you?

Beep beep.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Wasn’t swearing in the AZ skank nepo baby supposed to trigger Dems to release all the Epstein? But AGAIN democrats voted NOT to? Same old same old losers. Trump always wins.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

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