Said Jaron Lanier, "a top scientist at Microsoft," quoted in Maureen Dowd's new column, "When A.I. Came for Hollywood" (NYT).
Dowd is taking on the Tilly Norwood problem. Do I have to explain that? Why do I have the creepy feeling that Al Gore is going to sidle over and smirk: "What about the Tilly Norwood problem?"
Just kidding. That's Dingell Norwood.
Tilly Norwood is just an all-A.I. actress. People might prefer a completely fake human to a mixed-up, fake-and-real, on-screen human. Why wouldn't we?
Here, watch the new episode of The Tim Dillon Show. Dillon talks about Tilly Norwood:
Tilly Norwood... hasn't even been in anything and is getting shit from these desperate loser bums who are attacking her because supposedly she's taking their jobs. I'm going to come out right now and say that Tilly Norwood has more character than the pieces of shit on Twitter and on Threads ripping her up. Everybody's shitting on her for nothing. This woman did nothing wrong other than be A.I. and be an actress. That's all she did.... I'm a little sick of people diminishing the hopes and dreams of someone just 'cause they happen to not be real in the way that they understand it....
Here's the deal. Tilly Norwood is not going to be a racist. She's not going to say anything about Gaza. She's not gonna be a drug addict. She's not gonna be a liability on set.... She's not gonna have three trans kids like every other actress now.... She's gonna do the damn job. Tilly Norwood's gonna show up and gonna do the job. And I bet when you act with Tilly, you're gonna go, goddammit, she's good. Actors are people, people are out. They're gone. The raping, the drugs, the racism, they got really annoying.....
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Everything about the left is fake.
That is why they are so scared of fake people taking their fake jobs.
Al Gore is a completely fake person. Global warming is a completely fake religion.
AI is very threatening to fake things because it is better at being fake than they are.
Anthropogenic Intelligence (AI) is a hot commodity, and at kilowatts of energy consumption, a profitable investment in discernment and creation. The fairer AI is an aesthetic pleasure and mother of our Posterity.
he sold out to Al Jazeera, South Park groveled over to him,
I am a big fan of Heinlein, but honestly of the Golden Age writers I wouldn't have guessed that he would be the most prescient. Yet here we are.
". . . and at some point, it’s like civilizational and species collapse"
We've been dealing with magicians/charlatans for 00s of years, known as Democrats. Ds have been lying for years as to who they really are before an election. Then we find out only to learn that the power of incumbency really is a magical curse.
the Crazy Years yes here we are, there are elements of Norman Spinrad, from a different point of view,
Tilly and Dingell, the Norwoods.
Dingell Norwood - ha! Too bad W was such a stiff himself; the proper response to Gore's provocation should have been Bush turning to him and saying "I gotcher Dingell Norwood right here, pal," but I suppose that would have required strategery.
Automaton Intelligence is the new Cloud, a shadow, a poor player, a terawatt server farm and surrogate of Anthropogenic Intelligence.
many actresses get off script, see Rachel Ziegler, Dillon forgets who is programming these AI's however,
What’d be really cool is fair use for Tilly and other creations to follow for people to create their own fan-fic clips and movies.
I’m with Tim; we don’t have to listen to ignorant, virtue signaling tripe from Tilly, even if the original creator implies she has some sort of stance. It’s the OC’s opinions, not Tilly’s. We can project (or not) to our hearts’ content and just ignore the noise.
It's been going on for years/decades. Check the date,,,
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1973393631613509848
Keyword "interrupt".
Transsimulents are a novel green deal with three degrees of separation from the physical world.
thats just bafflegrab,
I do not care about Hollywood. If AI takes all of their jobs - good.
Most of Hollywood is leftist hot garbage and leftist propaganda and lies. They can all suffer.
Every time the words "Dingle-Norwood" came out of Gore's mouth, he lost 100,000 votes. And then the "intimidating" walk up to Bush.
What a clueless maroon.
well he almost won, because of games played here in florida and other places,
I read this book by Herman Hesse, can’t remember the title, but he talks about a society that recognizes that the “Creative Ages” were behind it, true creativity required belief, faith even, that the modern age viewed as irrational, so modern artists spent all of their time poring over and recreating the stuff from times past, since rationality destroys art.
don't let your Dingell Norwood dangle in the dirt!/Pick up your Dingell Norwood, put it in your shirt! CC, JSM
Maybe it’s just that religious faith puts a person in closer touch with the part of the soul that adds humanity to rationality.
Jaron Lanier was strikingly wrong or at least premature with virtual reality,
First they came for the Weavers, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Weaver.
it depends on the script, tilly might be in the 'uncanny valley' but the performer still needs to sell the story,
The best thing about AI actresses is that you can turn them off when they become annoying.
FFS, what is acting if not “fakes and simulations” performed on a stage or in front of a camera by a human? The actors haven’t seemed to care much about anyone else losing their job to automation, why should anyone else care about their special pleading?
Tilly Norwood, a fog of a person, can elicit feelings of doomsday and civilizational collapse, unlike say, abortion on demand.
When everything was CGI in the life-action Snow White movie except the people, and the lead actress did so much to sink the movie, it's natural to ask why we need the people.
In the TV show Stranger Things, the child actors aged out of their roles. By the final season, they weren't plausible.
Besides, Hollywood is tough on child actors. They get all mixed up and exploited. Replace them with AI, and nobody gets hurt.
Tim Dillon is the new Walter Cronkite. His thrashing of Greta thunberg and Gaza after is even better.
SPOILER ALERT: "Everything left is fake" is the plot line of Blade Runner: The Director's Cut. Some of the human fakes don't even know they are fake while others try very hard to not be fake.
Everything in the universe that self-perpetuates takes on an evolved and organic character. If AI persists, it'll be incorporated into human culture and biology in a cyborg fashion -- part man, part machine. See Iron Man, Dr. Who's CyberMen, Star Trek's Borg, etc. Watch for cellphones becoming permanent implants.
If AI characters are too fake, simplistic, or sanitized, the content will remain in the cartoonish drama or advertising PR. Many will be led along like sheep or cows with a nose ring, and be happy not thinking. Still, some humans love to rebel from the status quo and some love change for the sake of change.
We are setting ourselves up to fork as a species between the traditional organics and the cyber. The cyber will likely treat the traditional humans as zoo animals...COVID-19 demonstrated that many sci fi plots of the last 50 years are realistic.
There were monks who spent their entire lives mastering the art of calligraphy. Their illumined volumes were wonders of craftsmanship. Then along came Gutenberg and those smart ass printers. Who nowadays takes the time to hand craft any of the books that they want to pass down to posterity?
The title on the Gore video looks like it says "AI Gore ...," instead of "AI Gore ...." Is that intentional?
I think actors will stick around. People enjoy their backstage dramatics as much as their onstage performances. It's fun to read about their divorces and their stints in rehab.....The people who should be worried are the script writers. AI can surely come up with more plausible plot lines and dialogue than the utter crap they produce.
Half of these comments or more could easily be stitched into a reboot of My Dinner with Andre.
gal gadot's simulation is not working out,
sean young's character, doesn't know she is a replicant,
Dillon is clueless. Since Tilly is AI, anyone can make her do anything using AI. Tilly can be a racist, a murderer, friend of Hitler, etc. Your imagination is the limit. You can't sue me for defamation for claiming Tilly is a racist murderer. She's not real. She's a cartoon character.
sue the programmer, a smart one would make sure it doesn't engage in bad subroutines,
We are already half way there. I've seen multiple streaming movies lately where an older actor is, in a flashback scene, de-aged through GCI. Right now it's pretty obvious, but the power of AI grows exponentially.
Then there are holographic concerts be dead singers.
There was a sci-fy movie years ago where an actress, Susan Dey IIRC was scanned and the scan became her character in movies. Thus she was disposable.
An Oh NO!.... Anyway... situation if ever I saw one.
oh yes Looker, a Michael Crichton projecr, Albert Finney played the plastic surgeon that was making the models to specs
Telephone operators, bank tellers, travel agents, toll booth operators, railway signalmen and now ACTORS. Change is the only constant in life.
"Everybody becomes alienated and nervous and unsure of their own value, and the whole thing falls apart, and at some point, it’s like civilizational and species collapse."
Does that mean we don’t have to worry about global warming anymore?
"a top scientist at Microsoft”
Having recently installed Windows 11, I can believe it.
the twist was the sculpted models could never match the specs of the simulation, there's a lesson there,
Fortunate that John Dingell was able to get Norwood to co-sponsor and not Marion Berry……
Jaron Lanier, an early player in virtual reality, is one of the more interesting thinkers in the tech world. He's an odd duck, but he is worth reading. Agree with him or not, I think he is one of the few people with stature in the tech space who grapples earnestly with how technology impacts individuals and society.
I used to work on 3D simulations for medical applications, surgery simulations for training. This was bak in the mid-90s. Lanier was giant cheerleader for virtual reality at the time. I didn't hear that he ended up at Microsoft. @narciso, yeah he was way too bullish on VR technology.
For me, augmented-reality is the best application of VR -- think first down stripe in football broadcasts. Full blown VR is claustrophobic to me.
Tim Dillon is a very funny guy. 😁
Besides, Hollywood is tough on child actors. They get all mixed up and exploited. Replace them with AI, and nobody gets hurt.
Not just Hollywood. If you needed more of a dark side.
And then there is the original Stepford Wives. (How weird is it that in the sequel they were just brainwashed?)
P.S. I may be the only living soul who's ever seen the sequel to the Stepford Wives. Long nights of babysitting in the days before universally available cable...
I'm not sure what the connection between AI and Al Gore is, but maybe the lesson to be learned from the clip was how easily Bush was intimidated.
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The Hesse book was probably "The Glass Bead Game." The monks of Castalia found a way around the drying up of creativity, but I don't think it's something that could be done in real life.
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Where are the serifed I's coming from? All I have are ones that look like l's.
Never mind, I see that mine are also serifed on the site.
You can be sure that this will soon end with ai porn. That will make it harder for young theater arts grads to survive in Hollywood until they get their big break.
Eventually, movies and programs will be made by a very small handful of people, mostly the people who can write, using only software; and you won't be able to tell the difference from a movie or television program made in Hollywood except it might, perhaps, be much, much better qualitywise.
Libertarian economist Tyler Cowen is getting some attention for a creepy post at Bari Weiss's blog fantasizing about robot virgins and the AI character Tilly Norwood.
You'd think that as a guy who hangs out with libertarians, he'd see enough virgins in real life. This is far funnier when you learn that Cowen is 63 years old.
My Favorite Actress Is Not Human ~ The FP
https://www.thefp.com/p/my-favorite-actress-is-not-human-tilly-norwood-artificial-intelligence
Watch them for a little bit and the tells become obvious. Remember the dinosaur clip they made for Spielberg? he was shocked and a mazed and said he could now make Jurassic Park. Go look at it now…
AI so far has the same feature. Like with everything else it will take the highly educated to catch on but catch on they will…eventually…
Presumably Tilly is copyrighted and has agents to look after her interests, but a whole series of disposable AI characters could be created to fill any role possible.
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Perhaps the bigger development behind this is the merging of movies into the videogaming world. Eventually it may be hard to tell the two apart and we'll have to speak of a new hybrid medium.
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So is this the end of civilization? Maybe not. What's been threatened or promised for a long time -- people turning off the media and retreating into their own lives -- may yet happen. But was that what made Rome fall? Neglect of the public sphere for the private?
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Why such an old fashioned name for such a hypermodern or postmodern creation? The name "Tilly" probably peaked around 1910.
it might, perhaps, be much, much better qualitywise.
I wonder if AI will be able to correct line misreadings - when actors emphasize the wrong word? That bugs me.
It will be just like when they began to manufacture things in factories on conveyor belts. Yes, just like that. Terrible.
“AI killed the video star.”
You know whose lives get messed up by social media and movies and AI and crowd-maddening?
People who spend their lives watching other people live their lives.
Fish. Hunt. Bike. Climb. Run. Photograph. Heck, whittle. Just stop watching and listening to others.
@Josephbleau: You can be sure that this will soon end with ai porn.
See Rule 34 (many web references): "If it exists, there is p0rn of it."
P0rn led technology development since early photography in the 1800s. Then it led with early movies, home movies, VCRs, the early dial-up computer bulletin board systems, advanced computer graphics, the WWW, and then virtual reality. Another tech branch, it led to animated realistic dolls, flashlight-like things, and remote control things.
So, if AI video hasn't started with p0rn I'd be shocked. Consider that Mark Zuckerberg's expensive VR flop Oculus Rift wouldn't show the lower half of human bodies.
Asimov's Cave of Steel, also a little known Bruce Willis replicators, although this involved tele directed younger shells of people
“ Actors are people, people are out. They're gone.”
Nah, they’ll still be around. Same reason vinyl is still around.
I thought this post was going to be about Al Gore being a cyborg that went haywire, and so much began to make sense.
The direct "Golden Age" prophecy for Tilly Norwood is Walter M Millers short story "Darfsteller", concerning robot actors. It was in all the anthologies. Miller was a heavyweight of that age, based mostly on "A Canticle for Leibowitz". Millers problem was he did nor write anywhere near as much as Heinlein and Asimov and the rest. Heinlein or Asimov could not have written "Canticle", Miller was a better writer than either, by quite a ways.
The "Golden Age" stuff gets short shrift these days, in spite of its being, probably, the peak of American literary creativity.
As a writer I'd put Miller up there with Ray Bradbury, on a good day for Bradbury.
In a game of "Connections", Walter Miller was just the kind of guy Joseph Heller wrote about in "Catch 22", a USAAC Bomber crewman who aquired severe PTSD from the experience.
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