What Netflix series? ChatGPT tells me it's the Spanish drama-thriller series "Money Heist," which involves robbers in red jumpsuits and Salvador Dalí masks breaking into Spain’s mint and printing money. The use of the song suggests a connection between that money heist and the historical fight against fascism. The song "Bella ciao" originated "as an anthem of Italian partisans fighting Mussolini and the Nazis."
One must infer that the murderer envisioned himself as an antifascist hero. Presumably, he was able to see what happened to Luigi Mangione.
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306 এর 1 – থেকে 200 আরও নতুন» সবচেয়ে নতুন»He will certainly be hailed as an anti-fascist hero by the Democrat Party. They're already raising money for him to get him off these murder charges.
You can say "Trump is an authoritarian fascist and a racist, and his supporters support fascism and racism."
If you say these things you are justifying violence against us.
Period.
"Yes I do. YES I DO!"
- Kamala Harris
That means every person that voted for Kamala Harris.
All of them.
Grok: Taberon Dave Honie was the last person executed by the State of Utah. He was executed by lethal injection on August 8, 2024, for the 1998 aggravated murder of Claudia Benn. Honie was convicted on May 20, 1999, and sentenced to death the same day. The time from conviction to execution was 25 years, 2 months, and 19 days.
You can infer that Mr. Robinson will be enjoying his fame for a long, long time.
Seeing the first full generation of social media and gaming natives mature has taught us that (1) most people were easily able to distingush between fantasy and reality during the film/TV media era, and (2) many people snap with reality because of 24/7/365 online participation.
Digital systems, be they games or Instagram, indeed involve superhero thinking. One person can kill a hundred enemies, and 'heal' instantly by picking up a kit...then they turn this thinking around into the real world. Greta's mental illness demonstrates her wisdom...
Just to be clear this incel was:
* Living in his parents basement
* Playing video games all day and watching Netflix
* Jobless
* Washed out of a $32,000 higher-education scholarship
* Wears Che Guevera t-shirts and is a member of AOC's communist political party.
He's a carbon-copy of every liberal douchebag on the left.
You cannot even caricature this punk ass bitch.
In contrast, Charlie Kirk led a $100 million grass-roots political organization, had a wife and 2 kids and regularly hobnobbed with America's top political talent.
Tipper Gore would like to know who she can see to get her reputation back.
I'm wondering how these bullets are being engraved. Can't be a magic marker or a pen. A .30 caliber cartridge is kinda big for a bullet but kinda small to write anything on.
Yes, he looks forward to hotties, commies and MSM to blow kisses until he's finally released after the revolution lol.
The little troll did it for the lulz. Ooooh, so brave. Much wow. Please clap.
Flippant? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
@Michael Fitzgerald: "I'm wondering how these bullets are being engraved."
Speculating:
1. Laser engraver. These are akin to a 3D printer / stuff that burns detailed words into wood, plastic, or metal.
2. Masked stencil with acid. Craft shop project.
I personally couldn't put legible text on a round brass case with an old school buzzy engraving pen.
This is more like it. Nick Freitas Statement on Kirk Murder.
But we aren't "one people" are we?
The truth is we haven't been for some time now, and there is really no point in pretending anymore, if there ever was.
We are two very different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography, but that is where the similarities seem to abruptly end.
I convinced myself for a long time that whenever the left called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist, a "threat to democracy" for even the most innocent of disagreements, that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric done for effect.
And now the "effect" is a widow and two orphaned children, because the left couldn’t bear the thought of a peaceful man debating them and winning.
Our next president is going to be someone more like this.
Our next president is going to make Trump look cuddly and soft.
A young, weak and impressionable mind that was junked up by the dominant liberal culture in the academy and popular culture. And he was certainly disconnected from any religion.
This is what the Left does.
FLC:
You are correct. I'd add that we'll find out that he had no religious training.
Incoming Squirrel Detected:
"Video games are creating political violence."
Admittedly, Helldivers 2 has a pretty funny political satire at its core.
Michael Fitzgerald said...
I'm wondering how these bullets are being engraved. Can't be a magic marker or a pen. A .30 caliber cartridge is kinda big for a bullet but kinda small to write anything on.
Probably a laser engraver.
ANTIFA has enjoyed the luxurious protection of one political party in this country, and has been defended by the mainstream of media, and I suspect those days are coming to an end. Forcefully.
ANTIFA has been given a pass because they do what democrat politicians can't. Whether that day is coming to an end remains to be seen but if it hasn't, there will be no end to the violence. They have to be brought to justice.
Helldivers 2 is an homage to "Starship Troopers" by Robert Heinlein. A complete satire on militarism and fascism.
What America needs right now is for a prominent Dem to renounce the current Dem party. Call the Dems out for what they are: insane people out to destroy America with hate, illegal aliens, trans stuff, DEI and the Green New Deal. A total repudiation.
And it would be great if that person completely blew up omerta and ratted out all the vote stealing and other crimes of the Dems.
The Dems need a Paul who was knocked off his horse on the road to Damascus.
Utah still has firing squad as a method of execution. I hope they etch this on the shell casings:
( •_•)
( •_•)⌐■-■👌
(⌐■_■)
👍 👍
I'm sure he'd understand...
The left's terrorist inspiring words: Repeated daily.
"Trump is an existential threat to democracy"
"Trump is Hitler"
"Trump is a fascist"
"Trump is a King"
"Trump's supporters are fascists"
"Trump is a Nazi"
Trump's supporters are Nazis"
"Trump is a dictator and he will end our democracy"
“Trump is an existential threat to democracy”
“Trump’s supporters are an existential threat to democracy”
“We're in a war right now to save this country. And so you have to be willing to do whatever is necessary in order to save the country." – Senator Chris Murphy(D)
“This fascist administration didn’t come from anywhere... We’re gonna fight, fight, FIGHT!” -- AOC
All of those words come out of elite democrats in positions of power. That rhetoric emboldens the violent leftist cultists to act.
ANTIFA and the Democrat Party are the same people. The Democrats use the term "ANTIFA" to deflect the bad publicity from their violent guerilla war against the United States, funded by George Soros and a host of lefty Democrats out of California who are literally trying to steal the United States and its Treasury.
Having become recent experts on MS-13 tattoos on Maryland dads, here’s what the Althouse commentariat thinks these bullet casings mean.
As long as Chuck Schumer remains a free man, Trump isn't serious about making the Democrats pay for inciting these murders.
Schumer threatened 2 Supreme Court justices for Christ's sake. He should be in fucking prison.
@FormerLawClerk: "You cannot even caricature this punk ass bitch."
This era is characterized massive human wasted potential and squandering resources. A troubled (apparently middle class) 22-year-old could have EASILY been turned around a generation ago. Before smartphones, incels didn't even exist. There were many normies and a few hardcore nerds. The nerds (e.g., often autistic) were as likely voluntarily celebates as involuntarily.
Today, average potential kids are often untrained feral animals without effective parental or peer guidance. See the steady decline of LIttle League from learning sportsmanship to becoming a place where fathers get into fistfights. They go online rather than join a school sports or hobby club. The really bad ones would have been sent to a reform school. But now, the parents likely don't eve notice. Got to check my feed...
"hey fascist, catch"
I bet the collective evil Democratic-left like that one a lot.
@Dave Begley: "What America needs right now is for a prominent Dem to renounce the current Dem party."
That was Donald Trump in 2016.
"the murderer envisioned himself as an antifascist hero. Presumably, he was able to see what happened to Luigi Mangione" Yet the left complains that it is unfair to blame "the left." After years of smearing "fascists" etc. etc.
Corporate media should not publicize the names and faces of murderers. It's impossible to keep these thirsty psychopaths from becoming Social Media Famous, but publications should black out those stories.
Thanks for the link, Achilles. We're a long way from scrimshaw.
It would be ideal to have him executed by firing squad.
Necessary for other violent Democratic Antfa Nazis to see.
Dave Begley said...
What America needs right now is for a prominent Dem to renounce the current Dem party. Call the Dems out for what they are: insane people out to destroy America with hate, illegal aliens, trans stuff, DEI and the Green New Deal. A total repudiation.
That will not work. It has already been done.
Elon Musk. Tulsi Gabbard. RFK.
You are not talking your way out of this. They are facing constant death threats too. You cannot reason with these people.
kak - you remain an asshole and a liar.
"What America needs right now is for a prominent Dem to renounce the current Dem party."
That was Joe Rogan.
People in the Democrat Party who suddenly come to the conclusion that they're in a violent criminal cult don't STAY in the Democrat Party.
They become Republicans.
anyone know if Kamala still has her "help me spring BLM and Antifa thugs from jail" donation site up?
Achilles said 'You cannot reason with these people"
Indeed Indeed.
The few honest democrats already left the party.
There's too much greed and Soros money for the grifters to leave their power-whore mafia shit show of a party.
The best hope is for normal old fashioned democrats to realize their party is lost - and walk away.
Kak-a-poodle
"hey fascist, catch"
That is what the bullet said.
It's a sign that the problem --the idea that words are violence-- is metastasizing, it's taking hold on young people's imagination.
Enigma said...
I personally couldn't put legible text on a round brass case with an old school buzzy engraving pen.
I doubt he did either. But that's our moral and intellectual betters in the news media; too dumb and lazy to ask for details about such things. They largely repeat what they hear, so if someone misspeaks it becomes gospel to them.
It looks like the shooter was not alone and had other people involved in the setup for the shot.
They communicated on Discord.
How much simpler would the next 25 years be if dear old Dad had encouraged his piece of shit son to eat a bullet instead of turning himself in.
Writing on bombs and artillery shells is a wartime thing.
Bullets? Not a thing. What's up with that? Some kind of unconscious declaration that the bullet engravers are at war? Who with?
What about "notices bulges"? Is that the trans reference that vanished from the discussion?
The left is trying to say he was a groypher though I don't know any groypher who would say Kirk said hateful things. Just clinging to the fact he's a white male to try and convince everyone it's some rwnj. Interesting that the NYT doesn't want to try and make that work.
"Helldivers 2 is an homage to "Starship Troopers" by Robert Heinlein. A complete satire on militarism and fascism."
It's a riff on the movie, which was a satirical take on the book.
Hopefully it gets a remake by someone who actually likes the source material.
"They communicated on Discord
Yes. He was trying to convince his buddy to go and retrieve the sniper rifle for him that he left wrapped in a towel in bushes near where he jumped off the building.
He couldn't carry that and exfiltrate with any speed, so he ditched it. Local police found it in a sweep of the area after the shooting. It's likely this weapon would have been tied back to Robinson fairly quickly had events not outpaced the FBI.
This seems like a shooting planned on fairly short notice. Long enough to scope out and secure the very best sniper nest, but not long enough to secure a weapon that couldn't be traced back to him.
The engravings on the bullet casings suggest that he knew the forensics would tie back to him eventually.
where do they get such silly notions well cnn msnbc abc et al,
According to the New York Post, Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson was raised a devout Mormon — yet fired his fatal shot at Kirk just moments after Kirk had glowingly praised the Church of Latter-day Saints.
"What's up with that? Some kind of unconscious declaration that the bullet engravers are at war? Who with?"
Our speech is free, their speech is violence...bullets in this case (pun intended).
It's time for artists and people who are looked up to by the young (gamers?) to come together and spread that American message I used to hear all the time. "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,"
AI Overview: The quote "is a famous paraphrase of Voltaire's sentiments about freedom of speech, coined by Evelyn Beatrice Hall in her 1906 biography of him. While Voltaire did not say these exact words, the quote perfectly captures his beliefs and is frequently used to illustrate the principle of free speech."
Was Tyler Robinson a Groyper? You know Groyper of the Nick Fuentes fame? Nick Fuentes has come out bashing Trump lately. The engravings on the bullets are phrases used in online Groyper spaces. I think we’ll be hearing more about the killer’s possible Groyper connections.
Well let's hope that Tyler and Luigi both get long stints in the Gray Bar Hotel.
“A feud existed for several years between conservative activist Charlie Kirk and white nationalist Nick Fuentes, based on policy differences and Fuentes' accusations that Kirk was not radical enough. Following Kirk's assassination on September 10, 2025, the conflict came under renewed public scrutiny.”
Gemini
“The "Groyper Wars" (2019)
The conflict began most publicly in 2019, during what became known as the "Groyper Wars".
Fuentes' followers, known as "Groypers," disrupted Turning Point USA (TPUSA) events led by Kirk on college campuses.
Groypers accused Kirk of being a "gatekeeper" of establishment conservatism who was "insufficiently radical".
They heckled Kirk and his guests, challenging them on topics like immigration and LGBTQ+ rights, which they felt Kirk did not take a hard enough line on.”
Gemini
like the jugaloo boys, you have to come up with better material
"What America needs right now is for a prominent Dem to renounce the current Dem party."
What we got instead was Kamala Harris on CNN, with CNN billionaire nepo baby Anderson Cooper (of the Vanderbilt dynasty):
Cooper: "Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?"
Harris: "I do. I do."
Cooper just stood there shaking his head in agreement with her.
Well, of course, if Literally Hitler is in the White House and that is the official position of the Democrat Party, then the members of that party can save America by shooting Republicans.
Right?
There is no fucking big mystery where all these Democrat gunmen are coming from. The Democrats are waging a violent, hot war against the United States of America because they weren't able to steal the 2nd election in a row (Americans filming every fucking ballot box in the country 24x7x365 after Joe Biden stole the 2020 election).
The Democrats have now lost all their USAID funding. Which is to say all the money they were stealing from the US taxpayer to fund their party ... and now they're lashing out like rabid dogs.
They need to be put down. Trump needs to suspend Habeaus Corpus as Abraham Lincoln did when Democrats last needed to be put down. The official Democrat Party policy back then was that people could enslave other people. So of course, those people had to be killed. Lincoln ordered the US military to kill them; and to take over "sanctuary states" that were set up by the Democrats.
And now we need to do it again. We need to kill the Democrat Party and re-take those states where they control voting outcomes through fake elections.
Trump can be like Lincoln. He can end up on Mt. Rushmore. But he's going to have to be a LOT bolder than he has been up to this point.
Inga is desperate to absolve her fellow travelers. Inga, this is why Charlie Kirk is dead. This is why Charlie Kirk was murdered. It has to stop.
Tyler Robinson in Pepe the Frog (Groyper movement) costume.
Trump is an existential threat to democracy. I would not call him a nazi but he an authoritarian who wants to destroy what is great about this nation, such as pluralism and the sanctity of the rule of law.
Nothing that happened this week changes that one iota.
As for the shooter - fuck him. Whatever the kid thought he was accomplishing, the opposite is the case. Trump and MAGA will use the shooting as an excuse to further punish those with views they don't like.
Original Mike, please step out of your bubble.
honestly do you have any shame, for what your side does,
calling Trump supporters "fascists" is not new.
"Fascist" is used by top leaders of the Democratic party, for years and years.
I answered my own question,
The assassin is a progressive Antifa-aligned fascist of the far-left with liberal sympathies. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #HateLovesAbortion
Desperate Democratic I-nag -
"hey fascist, catch"
That is what the bullet said. Democrats have been calling Trump and all of his supporters Fascists - for years.
Inag is desperate to hang this on Trump and his supporters.
DESPERATE.
Noted Democrat idiot Stephen King has had to delete his comments and issue an apology after shitting on Charlie Kirk's grave before he's even in the ground.
This should end his career. Except that his career has been over for 30 years.
Where did Charlie Kirk's murderer learn to call conservatives "fascists"?
One place of many:
Anderson Cooper: "Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?"
Kamala Harris: "Yes, I do. YES, I DO!"
well he admitted he's senile, whats the excuse of the others,
"Inag is desperate to hang this on Trump and his supporters."
Yes she is. Paradoxically, it suggests she has a conscious. She knows what has happened is wrong. Contrary to all the celebrating lefties.
Inga said...
Was Tyler Robinson a Groyper? You know Groyper of the Nick Fuentes fame? Nick Fuentes has come out bashing Trump lately. The engravings on the bullets are phrases used in online Groyper spaces. I think we’ll be hearing more about the killer’s possible Groyper connections.
I am going to use small words for you.
We don't care what Tyler Robinson's motivations were. There is no real evidence that Robinson was a groyper. They don't have sign up lists or memberships. We don't care who or what he is. That is irrelevant.
We care about millions of leftists dancing and celebrating the death of Kirk.
We care about people like you who call us fascists and racists and justify violence or seek to hide from the fact that you want us dead.
Robinson's motives are irrelevant. If you call us a fascist or a racist you want us dead or subservient.
I refer back to Barcelona, that whit stillman period piece, when the tierra une catalan counterpart to the Euzjkadi, was terrorizing US installations, even though Franco had passed a decade ago, same with the Nov 17th who appeared after the Colonels were ousted, that Trotskyite cell, killed Station Chief Richard Welch, a Naval Attache Nordeen among others,
LOL - Inag is parroting the terrorist lie factory called MSNBC
"MSNBC is now saying there is NO "THEME" in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, DESPITE Tyler Robinson having anti-fascist engravings and an anti-Nazi song on the bullet casings."
Inag - go read your book.
I think thats how it was spelled, the Rote Armee Faktion indulged similar delusions, in West Germany, they reappeared briefly in the 90s, after the Reunification,
A member of the Brigatte Rossi, Antonio Negri certainly inspired the so Called European branches of what would be called Antifa,
Original Mike said...
"Inag is desperate to hang this on Trump and his supporters."
Yes she is. Paradoxically, it suggests she has a conscious. She knows what has happened is wrong. Contrary to all the celebrating lefties.
No.
She realizes that we are now going to fight back.
She realizes this is a war now rather than her and her friends hunting down individuals one at a time. One side is going to win and one side is going to lose.
Inga is just trying to justify her side to as many people as she can so they stay on her side. She has no principles or morals or anything other than the will to power.
That is why she is dishonest about everything. She will never in good faith say we are good people and that we have good intentions or that Trump is a good person with good intentions.
Schumer threatened 2 Supreme Court justices for Christ's sake. He should be in fucking prison.
He's also the heap of shit who gloated about how the intelligence community could use its vast powers to sabotage any elected official who dared to try to bring them to heel. Then refused to name any such rogue elements or what they had done.
I hope that subhuman rat goes in the slammer for "misprision of felony" when this is all over.
"We care about people like you who call us fascists and racists and justify violence or seek to hide from the fact that you want us dead."
We're using the internet to identify these people, many of them post under their real names and are easily traceable back to their jobs.
I should say their former jobs.
Because every one we've identified so far has lost their employment and their employability for future jobs because we're going to follow them around as they get older and make sure their next employer is embarassed by hiring them and also fires them.
It doesn't end with just the one firing. These people are now on a list. They're going to be watched in the future, followed in the future, and made pariahs in our community. They are going to be unhireable and should all just consider moving to another country if they know what's good for them.
If there's one thing the left taught the Republican Party it's how to use the tools they created against them. We let them create the tools, we then buy the tools, and then turn those tools back on them. Voila.
Thanks, Elon!
I have yet to see she has a conscience,
That was Donald Trump in 2016.
Joe Rogan in 2020. Tulsi and RFKJr in 2024.
But they persist.
Whatever the kid thought he was accomplishing, the opposite is the case. Trump and MAGA will use the shooting as an excuse to further punish those with views they don't like.
You are perceptive, and correct. We will be waving that bloody shirt for fifty years, and using Charlie for inspiration as we work to utterly wreck the Left and drive it out of our beautiful country.
I hope to live long enough to see the very last socialist in America hunted down with a pack of bloodhounds.
A remix of Bella Ciao on the Groyper America First playlist
After all the demonizing of people on the left and blaming them for Charlie Kirk’s murder, here we are starting to see that it was possibly the far right who murdered Kirk, not the left. I’m sure more info will be coming out in days and weeks to come.
Based on the progressive commentariat, I take it lessons are refusing to be learned. That’s a shame, because the next course work won’t be fun.
Sundance raises a good question; why doesn't the FBI stop ANTIFA? His answer to that question, that the FBI supports ANTIFA, is initially hard to swallow. Surely the current FBI and DOJ don't support them. But they've only been in place 6 months. The previous administration? Yeah…
Enigma said...
@Dave Begley: "What America needs right now is for a prominent Dem to renounce the current Dem party."
That was Donald Trump in 2016.
9/12/25, 2:33 PM
They also had Tulsi Gabbard, and Robert Kennedy jr.
I wish this post hadn't stopped at: "Presumably, he was able to see what happened to Luigi Mangione."
That's sort of a real cliff-hanger.
What did ever happen to Luigi Mangione?
Well, he hasn't been tried. He has a LOT of new girlfriends, even though he's in a prison. And the Democrat Party has rallied around him and raised millions of dollars to try to get him off his murder charge.
The Democrats protect their hit men. And they're also going to rally around Robinson. They are already raising his criminal defense fund. Notable contributors so far include Apple founder Steve Jobs' ex-wife, who now owns and runs The Atlantic as a Democrat Party webzine.
"the next course work won’t be fun"
The next course work is going to be wet.
Just one example of someone who gets it. She used to be a Bernie Sanders supporter: (via AoS, who didn’t provide a link, but her handle is there):
Shoe @shoe0nhead
one guy acted alone. then we saw the reaction of millions. some posting with their full names and faces. teachers, childcare workers, healthcare workers, hr professionals, game developers. hundreds of thousands of people that walk amongst every day, who live next door to us, people i thought were friends, people i thought were normal people celebrating the gruesome public execution of a father shot in the fucking throat in front of his young children, celebrating because he politically does not agree with them. we saw their real beliefs when the " in this house believe" shitlib mask was ripped off. sociopathic freaks.
So the ever-shifting right-wing political blame game is that he was a kid from a nice Republican family who did it because he was radicalized from his one semester at Utah State in 2021?
As for the shooter - fuck him. Whatever the kid thought he was accomplishing, the opposite is the case. Trump and MAGA will use the shooting as an excuse to further punish those with views they don't like.
Notice how this little prick isn't upset that one of his fellow leftists murdered an innocent man in front of his wife and children.
Nope. He's upset we might use it against him.
narciso said...
honestly do you have any shame, for what your side does,
9/12/25, 3:18 PM
No she doesn't. She is too busy trying to pin her assassin to anybody else, and bringing up things nobody ever heard or.
Are we a Kirkian liberal or Fuentes conservative country?
jim5301 said...
Trump is an existential threat to democracy. I would not call him a nazi but he an authoritarian who wants to destroy what is great about this nation, such as pluralism and the sanctity of the rule of law.
Nothing that happened this week changes that one iota.
As for the shooter - fuck him. Whatever the kid thought he was accomplishing, the opposite is the case. Trump and MAGA will use the shooting as an excuse to further punish those with views they don't like.
I am in the same party as Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. I disagree with them on a lot of things. But I am happy to live in the same country as them.
You on the other hand are no longer welcome because of exactly what you posted:
"Trump and MAGA will use the shooting as an excuse to further punish those with views they don't like."
I find your statement quite illuminating.
You are not horrified that a man was brutally murdered in front of his wife and 2 of his kids as well as 3000 people. Kirk's daughter heard the gun shot, got scared, and ran to her daddy. Someone had to stop her and her words were "Why can't I see daddy?"
Instead you say we are a threat to democracy and we will use this as an excuse to persecute you.
I am sad that you all put us in this place. But I knew we would be here at some point. You shitheads proved me right. Kirk was the nice guy and you shot him.
We are done with the FA. Now it is time for the FO.
honestly when you pick up ron filipowski or fat bastard conway's droppings, well you should hazmat
Inga said...
A remix of Bella Ciao on the Groyper America First playlist
After all the demonizing of people on the left and blaming them for Charlie Kirk’s murder, here we are starting to see that it was possibly the far right who murdered Kirk, not the left. I’m sure more info will be coming out in days and weeks to come.
9/12/25, 3:40 PM
Wow, took her a whole 2 days.
Might be boogaloo boys?
Short, shameful confession...
Sometimes, after reading all the comments in an Althouse (PBUH) posting, I get a feeling of satisfaction at my own relative intelligence.
Other times, Igna and Kwaksophistry don't post.
Kakistocracy said...
Are we a Kirkian liberal or Fuentes conservative country?
I look forward to the next year where we comb through social media posts and spend our time identifying leftists who are celebrating this death and ruining their lives.
"Are we a Kirkian liberal or Fuentes conservative country?
I've been reliably informed by my betters that we're a Hitlerian conservative country. Which doesn't bode well for your side there, Kakky. Good luck up against the wall that's creeping ever closer, buddy.
Mindset; noun; the established set of attitudes held by someone.
"Inga said...
Known Unknown, I may have zero proof that (it) happened, but you also have zero proof that it didn't happen.
5/12/17, 3:29 PM "
“ Notices bulges OwO what’s this?” Is in reference to men tucking their penis while dressed as girls. Or men’s bulge in provocative costumes. This is LGBTQ talk you see all the time on gay Reddit, tumblr etc.
“Role playing communities”. Do you enjoy being manipulated? Do you enjoy being blatantly lied to?
Inga is back with marching orders.
Oh my. Anyway, some of these threads now are as insane as some of those I remember from many years ago.
Nitpick - "Starship Troopers" is not a satire, its a world-building exploration of ideas. A "what if" exercise. Heinlein took a bunch of plausible premises in political philosophy and ran with them. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is the same for a totally different set of ideas.
This all was quite common at the time, in Science Fiction and plain old fiction.
Kakistocracy said...
“Blah, blah, blah”
How does it work in Kakistan? Do they give you a list of codswallop talking points and when one is proven false you just move on to the next one on the list? Or, once one is shot down you go back to your masters for the next one?
we saw as the major blue chip law firms, white knighted for
ksm so no surprise,
Here it comes: By tomorrow, none of the Progressive Left media outlets will be discussing Antifa associations, or Socialist Party political affiliations. It will be all about this poor boy, isolated from the world and obsessed with online gaming, an obsession that kept this bright young man from college and drove him to paranoid and disassociative behaviors resulting in the sad death of Charlie Kirk. Online gaming need sensible controls.
"Trump and MAGA will use the shooting as an excuse to further punish those with views they don't like."
Well, at least they won't be shooting them.
it is said that troopers was a reply to Einsteins arguments over pacifism, of course the film subverted the notion into an NC-17 version of Buenos Aires 90210
I see a dangerous descent into mutual loathing.
And you know something is happening
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Jimmy Numbers?
"Kirk's daughter heard the gun shot, got scared, and ran to her daddy. Someone had to stop her and her words were "Why can't I see daddy?""
I didn't know until this morning that his children were there. It's awful.
"Do they give you a list of codswallop talking points and when one is proven false you just move on to the next one on the list?"
Not to worry, they'll circle back to the one proven false in a few days.
buwaya,
Pretty sure the commenter here meant that "Starship Troopers' the movie was a satire or parody of the book. That should be clear from the closing remark about someone remaking it who actually liked the book.
here we are starting to see that it was possibly the far right who murdered Kirk, not the left.
Despite everything pointing to this guy as a leftist ... including pictures, statements, shell casings - and let's not forget the fact he actually shot a prominent conservative - some people will simply ignore the facts in front of her own face and spew lies.
Never change, Inga.
"It will be all about this poor boy, isolated from the world and obsessed with online gaming, an obsession that kept this bright young man from college and drove him to paranoid and disassociative behaviors"
From:
What Killed Charlie Kirk
And, more importantly, can we stop it?
by Liel Leibovitz
Let’s be clear: No progressive member of Congress, or union boss, or assistant professor of anthropology anywhere ever told anyone to go ahead and shoot Charlie Kirk or Donald Trump or anyone else. But the whole point is that they didn’t have to say the quiet part out loud. All they had to do is construct a society thick with brainwashed young men and women who hate themselves, hate the bodies they were born into, hate their nation and their faith and their families, and take directions from a top-down political infrastructure that instructs them what to think and when. It’s precisely the sort of environment that easily breeds shooters.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/charlie-kirk-dead
The shooter called Kirk a 'fascist', even wrote it on the bullet, and yet the very thing Mussolini's black shirts (the real Fascist party WW2) would do is assassinate those that spoke against Mussolini!!
Hitler's brown shirts, the SD, did the same thing in Germany!!!
Stalin and his Chetniks did the same thing in Russia!!!
Kirk was all for FREE DEBATE.. FREE SPEACH, the very founding of Democracy.
This little murderer was the true Fascist.. the true NAZI... true Communist. Kill all those that differ in the views he has.
Heinlein was a superlative world-builder. He could do the grand architecture by implication and suggestion thing that you will note in Frank Herberts 'Dune'.
Guys with an actual literary reputation for this stuff, Aldous "Brave New World' Huxley, or H.G.Wells, are given props for endless words of description. But the old SF/Fantasy guys, publishing in pulp magazines, had to pack all that in a short story, every other week.
AG
@AGHamilton29
Here is a list of just a small portion of the violence committed by radicals who oppose the essential values of Western civilization over the last few years, and then often justified or celebrated by the extremists within their movement:
June 2022: Kavanaugh attempted assassination
July 2022: Lee Zeldin attempted stabbing
March 2023: Covenant school shooting
July 2024: Donald Trump attempted assassination
September 2024: Second Trump attempted assassination
December 2024: Brian Thompson's assassination
January 2025: Cybertruck bomb in Vegas
January 2025: New Orleans car ramming attack
April 2025: Arson attack on the home of PA Governor Josh Shapiro
May 2025: Assassination of two Israeli staffers outside the Jewish museum in D.C.
June 2025: Firebombing of Jewish hostage demonstrators in Colorado
June 2025: Targeted murder of MN State lawmakers and their spouses
August 2025: Minneapolis Church shooting
September 2025: Charlie Kirk's assassination
Either we stand up to the people encouraging this, or they will succeed in tearing our society apart.
9/12/25, 3:55 PM
Doesn't really matter if Robinson had a picture of Trump and saluted it every night before bed. The real issue is all of Inga's friends and family who cheered and praised Kirk's assassination. All of Kak's good buddies who were oh so proud of it and boasted. Millions of leftists who just outed themselves as glad someone who they disagreed with was murdered.
Everyone thought it was a leftist who killed Kirk. And the left loved it. They were and still are happy Kirk was killed. And are loud and proud about how wonderful it is. Well, we all saw that. You cannot deflect from that, Inga. We saw your side and how pleased as punch your side was, and still is. Trying to say "But But it was a reichwinger, no really!" is irrelevant, because we saw your side gladly cheering and praising it. Justifying it.
MSNBC's katy Tur(D) Said - while Charlie was in the midst of dying of an assassins bullet - that Mr. Kirk was "divisive"
to the corrupt left - you better agree with everything they say - or you are "divisive."
Don't want grown men in your daughters locker room - katy Tur(D) says - "you're "divisive" and on an on..
then - the collective democratic left from on High call Trump and his supporters "Nazis, fascists, existential threats to democracy" etc.. - daily. but that's OK.
Boogaloo bois? Not even real. Fed idea that went nowhere.
buwaya said…
“Nitpick - "Starship Troopers" is not a satire, it’s a world-building exploration of ideas.”
Yes, we need to be clear which Starship Troopers we are discussing. phantommut stated above, the video game in question is based on the movie, not the book.
The 1997 movie was directed by Paul Verhoeven who is on record as stating he hated the ideas in the book and made the movie as a simplistic paint by the numbers caricature of itself to mock the source material.
There is also the song Starship Trooper by Yes, which took its name from Heinlein’s book, but has unrelated subject matter.
Germany, Spain, England....This was the shot heard around the world...
Inevitable West
@Inevitablewest
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1h
🚨BREAKING: Crowds break into "Amazing Grace" hymn in Central London tonight in honour of Charlie Kirk
He may have been an American loved by America. But Britain and Europe loved him just as much. 🇬🇧✝️🇺🇸
https://x.com/junogsp7/status/1966608292035059717
This is all so fucking sad. I can’t stop thinking about those poor kids. Seeing their father murdered before their eyes. Just seeing the devastation in their mother’s eyes must strike a wound that will take a lifetime to heal.
"The New Left-Wing Narrative: Tyler Robinson Was a White Supremacist Republican Trump Supporter"
Why would a Trump supporter want to kill Charlie Kirk?
Hint - they do not. that is insane.
This guy is a leftist - 100%
For years (or is it decades now?) I've been censoring my own speech online and at work. Saying TRUTHFUL things like "Men can't be women." or vice versa could get me fired.
Now all these liberals are getting fired for celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk, and/or openly wishing the same on others. Heck, there are X posters compiling lists of people, rightfully, losing their jobs. And small businesses that are soon to go bankrupt without any business.
I wonder where they got the idea their thoughts could be openly expressed without consequence... Oh, actually I don't. Years (or is it decades?) of shouting down people speaking the truth and saying things like "Men can't be women." taught them there were no consequences for spouting stupidity out loud.
BTW- they had plenty of warning the pendulum swings both ways.
But the real question in my mind after 21 years of service and as a military retiree- where did serving active duty officers get the idea they could do so without consequences? Not to mention a whole bunch of senior enlisted. The junior enlisted doing so? Ignorance, which also has consequences.
"Seeing their father murdered before their eyes. Just seeing the devastation in their mother’s eyes must strike a wound that will take a lifetime to heal."
And the left celebrates it. Because Kirk spoke divisive thoughts.
Randy Barnett
@RandyEBarnett
•Leftists: "Charlie Kirk brought his murder on himself by saying things that Leftists find “hateful.”
•Also Leftists: Charlie Kirk’s murder had nothing to do with leftism.
BTW, "divisive thoughts" above is what the left says, not me.
Remember - the dedicated leftist cultist ability to lie, is an endless loop. It equals their ability to lie to themselves.
Um, lefty here. I hate that he was murdered. And as it turns out it was a registered Republican that pulled the trigger.
As usual, Reachy reaching around and tugging at straw men.
There is a cumulative malignant cancer that the Democratic-Left have built and nurtured. Charlie Kirk was murdered with that cancer.
Now - more lies.
"🚨BREAKING: Crowds break into "Amazing Grace" hymn in Central London tonight in honour of Charlie "
I'm surprised they're not being arrested.
It's looking like Tyler Robinson was a normal kid from a good family who went off to college and got radicalized.
Nothing new. The radical left are on non-stop binge-hate recruitment call.
Original Mike said
"Kirk's daughter heard the gun shot, got scared, and ran to her daddy. Someone had to stop her and her words were "Why can't I see daddy?""
I didn't know until this morning that his children were there. It's awful."
OMG - that is a nightmare.
God I hate the democratic party and their cultists. And now they have the audacity to lie. Fuck the left.
"Heck, there are X posters compiling lists of people, rightfully, losing their jobs. And small businesses that are soon to go bankrupt without any business."
X has mostly purged these people. You won't find many of them on X.
We are tracking them using Bluesky. And they don't even realize how they're being punk'd.
These are low-IQ people. It's not hard to trap them and force them into a lifetime of poverty.
Looks like shooter was raised by MAGAt ammo sexuals.
I'm against the guy getting the death penalty for one reason, and one reason only - he turned himself in.
TeaBaghag(D) - The only source for "he was a republican" is other leftist liars.
You do not know this at all.
Actually one more reason - the man who murdered Ashli Babbitt isn't in jail. He wasn't even investigated. He got a medal and a pardon. No doubt Killer Lt. Byrd is back in the Carribbean laughing and enjoying his pension.
I have no doubt he's as much a Republican as James Comey.
“The real issue is all of Inga's friends and family who cheered and praised Kirk's assassination.”
I’m pretty sure that in the Mormon religion they believe in the Commandment not to bear false witness.
"What Killed Charlie Kirk
And, more importantly, can we stop it?"
When their leadership, political and media, feels the same pain they'll stop.
Charles C. W. Cooke
@charlescwcooke
·
From The Guardian—an openly left-leaning newspaper.
"I think we can dispense with the sophistry now. Kirk was killed by Robinson because Kirk said things that Robinson did not like. There is nothing to be gained by pretending otherwise. The facts are are they are."
yet - here come the leftist cultists to spread their bullshit and lies.
in the prologue to the novel, there was a war which provoked a veterans revolt
TeaBagHag said...
Um, lefty here. I hate that he was murdered. And as it turns out it was a registered Republican that pulled the trigger.
As usual, Reachy reaching around and tugging at straw men.
You called Kirk a racist and a fascist. Tyler Robinson called Kirk a fascist. All of the left have this in common.
No groyper or "registered republican" is going to call Kirk a fascist. You people are grasping at straws because you know this is the end for you.
If you think Kirk was a fascist or a racist the only reason you hate that Kirk was shot was you know it is going to unite your political opponents. You are saying this in bad faith.
A political party that calls everyone who disagrees with them fascists and racists is a threat to the republic we live in.
"It's looking like Tyler Robinson was a normal kid from a good family who went off to college and got radicalized."
Old story.
The degree to which this happens is a function of the social climate in the universities. In late-19th century Russia for instance it was poisonous, led to terrorism becoming cool, and directly from that to the October Revolution and mass murder.
Dostoevsky warned about it, but to no avail.
Orlando Figes, "A Peoples Tragedy"
When did I call Kirk a fascist, Achilles? You deluded, twat.
Again - you leftists spreading other leftist's lies - you are lying.
That's what you do. That is who you are. Liars.
Interview: The turth
" sp - truth"
Inga falsely claimed: "I’m pretty sure that in the Mormon religion they believe in the Commandment not to bear false witness."
No, Inga ... that would be Christianity (not that you would know, of course). It is the 9th of the 10 Commandments, brought down from Mt. Sinai by Moses in tablets enscribed by God. When he got to the bottom of the mountain, all the Jews there were worshiping idols and lending people money on interest. So Moses corrected their behavior.
The Mormons believe that God lives on a Planet called Kolob, where time moves at a much slower rate than on Earth. One day on Kolob equals 1,000 years on Earth.
So get your facts straight, missy.
Tea Bag D-Bag- you call all of us "MAGAts" all of the time.
toxic poisonous toad.
I save that fascist word for when it’s accurate; masked men demanding people’s papers and shoving them in unmarked vans and taking them to random foreign nations, now that La on the nose.
Next stop for the National Guard is Memphis, Tennessee. The governor has agreed. The mayor has agreed. MAGA
Here is the proof that the killer is a radicalized leftist democratic
Now - to all of you desperate leftist idiots and liars - F the F off.
“The Mormons believe that God lives on a Planet called Kolob, where time moves at a much slower rate than on Earth. One day on Kolob equals 1,000 years on Earth.
So get your facts straight, missy.”
FLC,
You are a big mouthed dumbass. Vance who made the false claim about me and my a family and friends is a Mormon, not I. And I’ll let Vance tell you about Mormonism and the 10 commandments.
tea bag(D) superD-hag - again - not the definition of fascist. but like all leftists, you use the word as a catch-all for stuff you do not like.
yes the Narodniki peoples will who were subsequently crushed by Alexander 3rd, then the Social Revolutionaries rose up empowered in part by the Okhrana who had contact with their the top deputy Azev, it's referenced in Bely's St Petersburg,
Again:
Charles C. W. Cooke
@charlescwcooke
·
From The Guardian—an openly left-leaning newspaper.
"I think we can dispense with the sophistry now. Kirk was killed by Robinson because Kirk said things that Robinson did not like. There is nothing to be gained by pretending otherwise. The facts are are they are."
Fascism is conspiracy of government and corporations to progress a left-wing (i.e. authoritarian) regime. #HateLovesAbortion
"Fascist" seems to have become a common epithet in the US, to be hurled by the left at the right, on every occasion and on whatever issue in dispute. This is the Orwellian "fascist", as in his famous essay btw.
Kakistocracy said...
I see a dangerous descent into mutual loathing.
I told you that you would not be happy when we start treating you like you treat us.
Kirk tried to be nice and thought he could make a difference through debate. You shot him.
You did exactly what I expected you to do.
I am sad Kirk was wrong but I do not let what I want change how I view what is. I got to see people get brutally killed before. A lot of Americans were forced to see it now for the first time. You are animals and you have earned everything that comes.
Yes, Reachy. He was raised by MAGAts gun nuts and then the little chicken came home to roost.
It's really incredible to see how far the left has to lie in order to avoid the ugly truth.
Two days ago thousands upon thousands of you were cheering the fact Kirk was killed. Now, you're trying to blame Republicans?
Since you all were so happy about his death, you should be falling all over yourselves to claim credit.
Again - read the interview. The killer is a radicalized leftist-democratic.
Repeating leftist lies - does not turn the killer into what you want him to be. He is a leftist.
like the guy who tried to run over the ICE agent, and FAFO'd
He was raised by MAGAts gun nuts and then the little chicken came home to roost.
I see. So we can blame your parents for you being such a steaming piece of shit.
It’s Achilles’ rhetoric that’s the most extreme and fucked up, as always. YOU are responsible for having such a hateful world view,, you violent shitbag
Definitions of "fascist" are irrelevant under the circumstances.
Fascism was a slippery thing in any case. There is an excellent case to be made that we are all fascists now.
#Groyper is trending.
So, Robinson deemed Kirk a "burden". His Choice.
We really must do something about the progressive liberal culture and expert classes that entertain abortive ideation as a wicked solution.
“It’s Achilles’ rhetoric that’s the most extreme and fucked up, as always. YOU are responsible for having such a hateful world view,, you violent shitbag.”
Achilles is messed up.
#HisChoice #NoJudgment #NoLabels #HateLovesAbortion
it usually means you've lost the argument, of course the practices of most of the Anglosphere, with Australia being the worst, reminds one of DH Lawrences more unorthodox offerings Kangaroo,
It is common for the rural-semi rural folk of the US to hunt deer, elk and antelope. Thats what the rifle was intended for. This is quite normal. Such rifles are even legal in most of Europe.
There is no call to label anyone as a "gun nut".
The Groyper dodge is already discredited. Debunked, I believe the libtards call it.
https://instapundit.com/744333/#disqus_thread
Semantic and conceptual fidelity are relevant as far as it is necessary to mitigate the leverage of congruent constructs to suppress speech.
TeaBagHag said...
Yes, Reachy. He was raised by MAGAts gun nuts and then the little chicken came home to roost.
Inga said...
#Groyper is trending.
"The family member, Cox said, recounted how Robinson had gone over for dinner and mentioned that Kirk was scheduled to speak at UVU. The family member recalled Robinson talking about not liking Kirk and his viewpoints.
In a phone interview Friday, someone who said they were friends with Robinson in high school– who asked to remain anonymous – said that Robinson was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was, like, really leftist”.
“The rest of his family was very hard Republican – like gun-loving, everything,” the friend said. “He was really the only one that was on the left.”
Keep hope alive - Inag(D) = - the killer in on YOUR team.
"Two days ago thousands upon thousands of you were cheering the fact Kirk was killed. Now, you're trying to blame Republicans?"
If you study the history of successful guerilla wars, you'll see that this tactic that Inga is engaging in is part-and-parcel of a successful outcome.
The goal is to confuse the enemy (you) and allow the attacker (them) to pivot any conversation or debate they are losing into a dead end shouting match.
It's highly effective what the Democrats are doing. They have studied the best way to take over the United States and they are executing brilliantly on their plan.
Kill when necessary. But not too many at once. Lie always. That's their plan. They intend to whittle us into nothing like the branch of a small tree they're working on from their rocker on the porch.
And it will work. It's always worked.
I should know. I've always been here.
Douche-Bag-Democraptic -
The killer's parents did not kill Charlie Kirk. Their radicalized son did. He's on your team. You should celebrate. After all - you leftists HATE perceived "fascists" called out by the leaders of your cult.
Bullets, knives, machetes, molotov cocktails, IEDs, etc, are a double-edged scalpel.
A translation of the ‘Bella ciao’ song.
One morning I woke up
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
One morning I woke up
And I found the invader
Oh partisan, carry me away,
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
Oh partisan, carry me away,
For I feel I'm dying
And if I die as a partisan
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
And if I die as a partisan
You have to bury me
But bury me up in the mountain
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao,
But bury me up in the mountain
Under the shadow of a beautiful flower
And the people who will pass by
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao,
And the people who will pass by
Will say to me: "what a beautiful flower"
This is the flower of the partisan
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
This is the flower of the partisan
Who died for freedom
I am ready to have the next thing I read be the verdict at the end of his trial. I have one mentally ill person in my life whose actions defy logic. There are issues in life that have no solution. Finding logic in a murderer's thoughts is probable one of them.
as to the latter point, kirk's mission was noble, however if there is no dialogue partner, say you are facing a Maoist, there really is no common ground, and then it's a question of force, the Thrasymachus
“It’s Achilles’ rhetoric that’s the most extreme and fucked up, as always. YOU are responsible for having such a hateful world view,, you violent shitbag.”
Achilles is messed up.
Link to the article above. Also in Peachy's posts.
You have been calling us fascists and racists for years.
You knew the result would be fellow leftists like Tyler Robinson attacking and killing us. I knew it would result in you leftists attacking and killing us.
You proved me right.
You FA'd for a long time. Time to FO.
The killer is antifa. From a republican family. They gotta come from somewhere. They don't all have far-left Moms and Dads.
My supcision (sic) is that he was a "Rebel" a weirdo son who decided that the teachers and media were right, and his parents were wrong. Probably had "Dad issues". Stalin did.
You have a lot random nuts rolling around in society. And a lot of weak minded oddballs. Some of whom have "daddy issues". Sometimes they're Gay or Trans. Sometimes they're just loonies. They find a home on the Left. A circle of "Friends". Patsies. Losers. Who get used.
Achilles, when you talk so tough behind your keyboard, I get really charged up. Talk threatening to me, daddy.
Enigma: "Before smartphones, incels didn't even exist."
Umm, my high-school, college, and young adult selves would like to talk to you....JSM
A family divided is not a novel phenomenon. The idea of Diversity (i.e. bloc ideologies), or reduction of human dignity to color and class, is poorly conceived and deceptive.
"Finding logic in a murderer's thoughts is probable one of them."
Logic, maybe not, but purpose and fashion, definitely. There are fashions in madness, and fashion comes from a mass saying and behaving the same way. Among them the mad and the evil.
This university disease is a collective phenomenon, and it is self-sustaining.
Everyone - read the one of the integration interviews.
Here it is:
"COX TOLD REPORTERS THAT A FAMILY MEMBER OF ROBINSON WHO WAS INTEROGATED BY INVESTIGATORS SAID ROBINSON HAD "BECOME MORE POLTICAL IN RECENT YEARS."
THE FAMILY MEMBER, COX SAID, RECOUNTED HOW ROBINSON HAS GONE OVER FOR DINNER AND MENTIONED THAT KIRK WAS SCHEDULED TO SPEAK AT UVU. THE FAMILY MEMBER RECALLED ROBINSON TALKING ABOUT NOT LIKING KIRK AND HIS VIEWPOINTS.
IN A PHONE INTERVIEW FRIDAY, ONE OF ROBINSON'S HIGH SCHOOL FRIENDS - WHO ASKED TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS - SAID THAT ROBINSON WAS "PRETTY LEFT ON EVERYTHING" AND WAS "THE ONLY MEMBER OF HIS FAMILY THAT WAS, LIKE, REALLY LEFTIST."
"THE REST OF HIS FAMILY WAS VERY HARD REPUBLCIAN - LIKE GUN-LOVING, EVERYTHING" THE FRIEND SAID. "HE WAS REALLY THE ONLY ONE THATWAS ON THE LEFT."
but the larger question is how does one deal with the avalanche of lies, that are regurgitated by the Corporate media, that flow into Tiktok and Blue Scream, that create an army of unreasoning strigoi, we know this a lame exercise but on other platforms, the lies have purchase, and they have a blood price, from sanford to minneapolis, there was a rising crescendo of incitement,
It's unbelievable.
The killer could come right out himself - in front of a microphone - openly admit he's a leftist, that he hates Trump, he hated Charlie Kirk, thinks all Republicans are a bunch of Nazis and there are people here who would STILL deny he's one of theirs.
You people are insane. There's really no other word for it.
this spring, the venue was teslla dealerships, then ICE came under fire, the Brotherhood troubadours laid siege to universities so every campus became Bir Zeit
There are more females than males in the world. Celibacy is a choice in a restricted environment. Remember, equal in rights and complementary in Nature. Incel is a pejorative term used by DEIsts and the professional psycho-atric class to demoralize people and create novel revenue streams.
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