"No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!"
Writes Trump, on Truth Social.
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The Democratic Party is pure evil.. and they inspired all of this.
Charlie Kirk last words. Link to video
I don't know where we go from here. This is devastating. The left is nuts, and this pisses me off. RIP Charlie! You will be missed.
God Bless his family. He has small children. Now because of intolerant leftist hatred - his children will grow up without a father.
Kirk was a particular threat to the establishment left because his tools were debate and persuasion. RIP.
My spouse said she is sad. That would be her. Not me. I am furious at the left.
Leftists are all saying he deserved it.
Again - Fuck the left.
What a tragedy!
RIP Charlie Kirk. You are a legend. This is a true wake-up call for the USA. Some people on the left had better regain their senses… their humanity… THEIR SOULS, or this will end badly for them.
Lots of comments on the topic (this thread and the other one) about shock and sadness over the shooting. Anybody notice who's not posting?
Inevitable.
The left only exists because it takes from other people. It cannot generate its own wealth. It must steal and this requires force.
You cannot have a tribe that believes wealth must be redistributed by force in a free society.
They will always resort to violence.
It sounds, just offhand from comments here and elsewhere, that the right hasn't learned anything either.
Trump should hold 3 or 4 massive funerals for Kirk, in various parts of the country, with hours of righty speakers at each: VDH, Tucker, Nigel, Tommy, Le Pen, Giorgia, the Fox people in and out of the Admin, etc. Sort of a mirror-universe George Floyd thing. RR, JSM
that suggests they have a little shame, but that will pass shortly
Mason G said...
Lots of comments on the topic (this thread and the other one) about shock and sadness over the shooting. Anybody notice who's not posting?
Not understanding the shock.
This should absolutely be expected. It is what the left does every single time. They always resort to force and if they win the result is always a lot of their opponents being killed.
rh - what are we supposed to learn? That the left are OK?
Go read X and BlueSky and TikTok - the left are happy someone they disagree with was shot to death.
I am sad. I am angry. I hope that they catch the perp and justice is done.
I don't know where we go from here.
The Civil War has started. You should probably go on down to the gun store and purchase a weapon and some ammunition.
The war is here, whether you would want it to be or not. The Democrats aren't going peacefully.
Charlie had even more impact than Andrew Breitbart, who is another heroic figure. I’m praying for Charlie, his wife and family and for the country.
"Anybody notice who's not posting?"
We probably won't hear from Inga today. She's off celebrating.
"Trump should hold 3 or 4 massive funerals for Kirk, in various parts of the country, with hours of righty speakers at each: VDH, Tucker, Nigel, Tommy, Le Pen, Giorgia, the Fox people in and out of the Admin, etc. Sort of a mirror-universe George Floyd thing. RR, JSM."
Why do you want this? The murder is sad, but Kirk was a social media star not a war hero. How about people mourn without fanfare, with humility and decency? You really want to turn a murder into a PR event? I've had enough of the sick fucks on the left and the sick fucks on the right want to go tit-for-tat.
Folks - this wasn't just a murder - this is an intimidation.
The Soviet left do not want freedom of speech.
The left demand any disagreement with them be muzzled.
Anyone remember the flash point that started the Spanish Civil War? It was when one of the leading right wing politicians was brutally murdered and the leftists tossed his body into the street.
This has that kind of feel to it.
May all the leftists celebrating regret it. And may God comfort Mrs. Kirk and their two children! The left is evil!
Time for the divorce. Since team blue is the at fault party, team red gets the contiguous borders, shaves off rural portions of blue and purple state, takes part of the Pacific coast in S. Oregon and N. California, and takes the big island in Hawaii. Current red states stay intact. Team blue gets enclaves.
Former Law Clerk.
Solid advice. Doing it.
When the hour is upon us, remember this day, and harden your hearts for what must be done.
if the left doesn't like you.. they'll try to send you to jail..
if they can't do THAT.. They SHOOT you..
something to think about next time you think lefties can be reasoned with
So very sad. I loved watching him debate college kids. The "lefty" ones would often stomp off with a "fuck you" because they had nothing. And now he's a martyr. LORD bless his family.
This is awful The least intimidating guy of the right is gone. I fear for the future.
‘Former G.W. Bushie Matthew Dowd on MSNBC suggests it's CHARLIE KIRK'S FAULT HE WAS SHOT:
“[He is] constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech, aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which often then to hateful actions.”
Dowd… you piece of shit, you.
"I've had enough of the sick fucks on the left and the sick fucks on the right want to go tit-for-tat."
Didn't hear this until after the Democrats went tit.
Then they bray for no tat.
DDD: "You really want to turn a murder into a PR event? I've had enough of the sick fucks on the left and the sick fucks on the right want to go tit-for-tat."
Yes, yes, and yes. The alternative to turning into a PR event is letting the other side control the narrative: he brought it on himself, now let's memory-hole it. Kind of like Scalise. No one ever says "Steve Scalise, who was crippled for life and nearly killed by a left-wing shooter." You think a lefty MC would get the same treatment? Time to celebrate the martyrs of the right and chant the pieties every single chance we have or can create.
Second yes: I too have had enough of the sick fucks on the Left. So time for some of our own sick fuckery.
Third yes: Tit for tat. More than that. Gigantic Canadian-shop-teacher sized tits to smother out any chance the other side will "tat" again. RR, JSM
He was married in 2021 and has two young children.
You can fuck right off, DeeDee.
Peachy said..."Folks - this wasn't just a murder - this is an intimidation."
Of course it is.
I admit it. Even I yelled, "Fuck the left!"
So Democrats are brining up Gabby Giffords.
The Gabby Giffords shooting was roundly condemned by all.
But also - her shooter was a crazed lunatic obsessed with her. Even tho the liar left tried to blame Sarah Palin - it was determined her shooter didn't even know who Sarah Palin was at the time - & the shooter had no political agenda that involved Republicans .
But the media are dutifully brining it up. What bullshit.
For the last 50 years, go total up all the leftwing violence and attempted shootings of rightwing political figures. Now do it for the Rightwing.
Compare the treatement by the MSM of leftwing political violence and thatof Rightwing political violence.
The Right wants you to change. The Left wants you dead.
If the Dems had any integrity (humor me) their leader, Barack Obama, would go on the news and tell people to settle down. Stop the violence. Stop the crazy talk.
I'll be watching the Left's fake concern on MSNBC tonight.
I wonder if I will still be called an extremist after today.
There really is no way to change the path we are on. The left will never stop.
The only real mistake would be leaving what comes next half done.
The entire ideology of government redistribution must be destroyed and a critical mass of people who support government used in this way must be removed from the country. They can never be allowed to have the prospect of having power or they will try to attack and kill until they get it.
Get stronger and don’t back down.
"I loved watching him debate college kids."
His video's on YouTube were always excellent. He was always courteous in his debates with lefty college students. He didn't yell at them, or mock them. He engaged them.
He took any and all questions and would sit for hours and hours on end. He was changing hearts and mind by engaging in courteous debate. Exactly the sort of guy you want out there advancing your ideas and policies. His arguments were very effective and you could watch how his questioners changed their minds.
And so yes, the Democrats murdered him.
Just like they tried to murder Donald Trump. Twice.
They just kill our guys, freely, knowing some lefty judge will let them out on no bond and they can disappear forever.
Someone on the far right will look to make "his bones" on one or more super woke. This won't end well.
"It sounds, just offhand from comments here and elsewhere, that the right hasn't learned anything either."
Its an old lesson, that goes back to 1917. But Righwingers and "Normies" refuse to learn it.
"Anybody notice who's not posting?"
In a way, I wish they would. I don't know Kirk's message. I want our lefties to tell me what he said that was so heinous that he had to be murdered.
"Barack Obama, would go on the news and tell people to settle down. Stop the violence."
Barack Obama did EXACTLY the opposite of that. He told his side to get in our faces. To punch us twice as hard. To bring a gun to the knife fight.
Barack Obama wants war and his people have listened.
The very LAST thing the nation needs is to here from that motherfucker.
From the video:
“Don’t waste your time.”
On Powerline, commenter MN Steve wrote:
From my daughter. “So angry right now. The left can protest they can stand on the streets and they can stop traffic and they can break things down and they can graffiti things and they can harass people and they can rip down signs but the right can’t even sit on a college campus and have a civil conversation.”
This is where we are today. Because Democrats didn't get their way last November.
@rhhardin: It sounds, just offhand from comments here and elsewhere, that the right hasn't learned anything either.
I'll bite. Explain yourself.
The Five was smart enough to have Harold Ford on (though it was probably just a coincidence). I don't think I could stomach Jessica Tarlov right now.
This cannot be allowed to continue. The Democrats are committed and acting on their list of enemies that must be eliminated. I don't want to see any clever comments in blogs.
I don't want to see any candle light marches. No teddy bears. This is war.
Cubanbob opined: This won't end well.
Lots of Democrats had to be killed by Abraham Lincoln.
It ended so well that Lincoln ended up on Mt. Rushmore.
It's time to do it again.
Has the shooter been captured? The guy in the video might not be it. Report that the gun was fired from the top of a building.
Charlie was hyper influential with young people, mostly on the college campus’s, enemy territory. He was a force for change with young people. It had to grind on college Commies.
This is an awful tragedy for Charlie Kirk and his family. I, who am often referred to as a leftist, adamantly denounce this act and hope the shooter is quickly apprehended. Right now, we don’t know the shooter’s motive or political affiliation, so it’s premature to assign blame to any group.
Coincidentally, starting September 8 until the end of the year, the State of Florida has a tax holiday on firearms and ammo.
Report: Shooter still at large.
Megyn Kelly crying on her livestream. The left is imploding in insane violence.
"A petition signed by 7,000 people called for him [Charlie Kirk] to be banned from campus."
Why? He isn't an approved Soviet Democratic who lies all the time? Only leftist bullshit allowed!
My guess is that he would not want his death to be the excuse for starting a civil war. Just the opposite I would imagine.
So sad. Such crazy times.
Van Jones is a nasty asshole.
https://x.com/MediasLies/status/1965512623086076414
The Gabby Giffords shooting was roundly condemned by all.
But also - her shooter was a crazed lunatic obsessed with her. Even tho the liar left tried to blame Sarah Palin - it was determined her shooter didn't even know who Sarah Palin was at the time
He began stalking Giffords a few years before anyone outside Alaska had ever heard the name of Palin. He was too far gone to have any coherent political beliefs, but it didn't help that he was raised by a leftist Democrat.
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Assassination culture is spreading on the left. Forty-eight percent of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. Fifty-five percent said the same about Donald Trump."
Mason G - wow powerful and spot on.
So Democrats are brining up Gabby Giffords.
They have their communications expert-approved talking points.
We will soon get the newest talking point from the Althouse lefties. Just wait for it.
Let's keep things in perspective, people. Crime is down 8%.
If I was law enforcement, I would be actively petitioning for a search warrant of the emails, smartphones, and hardrives of the campus branch of the AAUP right now.
Never forget they said the shooting of the unarmed Ashli Babbit was 'righteous'. Guess the media has changed since the Kent State shooting.
Utah Valley University. Large public school. 46.000 students. If it was more "elite" they would've been Kirk from speaking. But according to NBC news - there was almost no security.
Hassayamper - Indeed! None of that made the news.
The leftist media and the lair left BLOOD libeled Sarah Plain - because HATE allows leftists TO LIE.
"This is where we are today. Because Democrats didn't get their way last November."
Basically, yeah.
The left is fucking dangerous.
jim5301: "My guess is that he would not want his death to be the excuse for starting a civil war. Just the opposite I would imagine."
True, but I think he won't mind his death being used as the excuse for a Republican wave in 2026. Every single R candidate from gardener to governor needs to start all speeches with a moment of silence for Charlie - heck, maybe even knee-taking.
And every debate needs to start with "that man/woman over there belongs to a party that kills people they disagree with. That's the only thing I am going to say tonight. Goodbye."
Because that is what they would do to us. RR, JSM
Right now, we don’t know the shooter’s motive or political affiliation, so it’s premature to assign blame to any group.
It's been reported that this was a 200-yard shot from a rooftop. The pool of suspects is rather limited. If it wasn't a committed and trained leftist radical, then what? Are you implying a false flag?
I hate to use a play on words at this point in time, but I think Charlie's murder today marks a turning point. Everyone—except the hard left—is getting sick of this one way stuff. They missed Trump by literally an inch; some whack job who should have been institutionalized brutally murders an innocent lady on a light rail train; the guy who killed those innocent kids at Annunciation Church, and now Charlie Kirk.
The left is getting bolder and more violent. It seems to me that if the powers that be don't unleash the dogs, the population (who is beyond frustrated) will take matters in their own hands.
Trump needs to have a SECRET confab with that useless CJ of SCOTUS and tell him enough! By allowing every court in the land to be obstructionist and to let the bad guys repeatedly go free, there are going to be serious societal consequences. And it ain't gonna be pretty.
I didn't realize that Saint George Floyd was a war hero DDD!!!
Elon Musk just said “The Left is the party of mu*rder”
yes.
Begley asked: "Has the shooter been captured?"
No, and probably never will be. The Democrats and the media want this story OVER WITH.
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The left-wing mainstream media, as well as figures like Gavin Newson claiming Trump plans to be dictator, has created a climate of hysteria against right-wing figures that could radicalize any number of unstable people to engage in political violence. Pray Charlie Kirk is ok.
I should point out that yes - Abraham Lincoln did have to kill a lot of Democrats and yes, it turned out so well that he ended up on Mt. Rushmore and has the best statue on display in our nation's capital for all to remember him by.
But let's not forget that Democrats murdered him, too.
Are the Soros mafia/ Pritzker Mafia left hiring sharp shooters now?
The left has been pushing and maneuvering for a civil war and a race war for some time. With the horrible murder of that beautiful innocent Ukrainian woman by a deranged career criminal for the crime just existing......and now the assassination of Charlie Kirk for daring to voice a difference of opinion.....the spark may have been lit. Or at least garnered (tee hee) the attention of the complacent public.
No one is safe. If the left gets its wish. War between political factions and between the races, it will not turn out quite the way they think it will.
I thank God I live where I do. Pity those who have chosen the urban life.
MSNBC says it will be hard to catch the shooter because Trump has decimated the FBI.
Right now, we don’t know the shooter’s motive or political affiliation, so it’s premature to assign blame to any group."
Until we do though, it's completely fair to blame Democrats because that's precisely what they would do if the situation were reversed and say ... Nancy Pelosi was assassinated. They would blame Republicans IMMEDIATELY and make political hay on her still warm corpse.
The guy who did this better hope the police catch him.
Reports the shooter was 200 yards away. That would take precision and a scope. Hired killer is my vote.
A football field is 100 yards
The Spanish Civil War parallel is apt. When Rightists killed Leftists, it was for the numerous crimes committed by the Leftists when the Left was in power. When Leftists killed Rightists, it was because the Rightists disagreed with them, or were merely in the way of the Left's insatiable thirst for power. No equivalence there, none whatsoever.
So now we know why Democrats keep trying to ban guns — they do not want us shooting back.
I didn't read all the comments.....William at 4:26 beat me to the punch. I agree 100%. This is likely a turning point.
"We will soon get the newest talking point from the Althouse lefties. Just wait for it."
Inga has been told to keep quiet while they line up a way to blame Trump for this. Which they are feverishly working on over at CNN and MSNBC.
I was trying to think of a lefty analog to Kirk (pbuh). I couldn't think of a lefty ideologue who's not in office or formerly in office, or in the media. I'm sure there are, but that side operates so much in lockstep that there's less importance for someone who sits on the sidelines and develops the thought. In fact, such freethinking is dangerous on the left.
Maybe Jesse Jackson Sr? Sharpton? Crump? Axelrod?
Kirk (z''l) was someone people read, watched, listened to, engaged with or about. There's not really anyone like that on the left. Killing him is a blow to the ideology of the right in a way that killing some R politician would not be. I don't think anyone on either side fully understands the import yet. RR, JSM
"This is likely a turning point."
What's going to change?
If I were a betting man I'd put my money on the shooter being a lefty, but maybe we should wait until we have more information before being so sure.
Ronald, if you really mean what you said, sorry is where you should have stopped. You people don't need to travel with special security.
I keep asking what Charlie Kirk said that was so awful.
"I’ve seen Charlie Kirk speak multiple times. He’s come to my hometown. He is calm, logical, and always willing to engage in civil discourse with the opposition. Not once has he called for violence. By all accounts, he’s relatively moderate for a right winger.
If he’s a Nazi, then so am I."
FormerLawClerk said...
Inga has been told to keep quiet while they line up a way to blame Trump for this. Which they are feverishly working on over at CNN and MSNBC.
No, CNN seems to be a bit anxious over this and quite a few name Democrats have issued statements that are anodyne as possible. I think they may be starting to get worried.
"What's going to change?
Republicans will cower in fear. That's what will change. But yeah, you're right. That's what they always do, so there won't really be any change.
Our elections are rigged and fake, our candidates can be shot, effective speakers on our side can be assassinated with ease.
How is this not a win for Democrats?
The mainstream media is already saying Kirk deserve it for his "hateful speech." They of course, get to decide which speech is hateful. Convenient, no?
My guess is this was a higher-up D-Party political assassination.
Only a guess.
Greg Gutfeld (paraphrased): 'They could have killed Kirk easily in so many settings. That they chose this so brazen, public manner is a message.'
Damn right it is.
"CNN seems to be a bit anxious over this ...
They god damned well ought to be, seeing as how easily accessible their studio in Atlanta is. If there is going to be a war, that's going to be a prime target.
jim5301 said...
My guess is that he would not want his death to be the excuse for starting a civil war. Just the opposite I would imagine.
Projection from a leftist.
Kirk understood just how toxic and evil the left really really is. It is probably true that he feels bad for the young people who are being misled and turned into demons by this Toxic ideology.
Kirk will feel bad for the pawns who will suffer.
But he Absolutely understands How necessary it is to defeat the left and the ideology that they fight for and kill us over.
You people must be destroyed and You must never have any hope of gaining the power that you try To violently seize like this.
@DDD: You really want to turn a murder into a PR event?
The murder happened in front of hundreds of people, with ample video. The murder is a PR vent, just as the killer intended.
@Iman: Former G.W. Bushie Matthew Dowd on MSNBC suggests it's CHARLIE KIRK'S FAULT HE WAS SHOT:
“[He is] constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech, aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which often then to hateful actions.”
OK, Dowd, please tell us exactly, using direct quotes, just what kind of hate speech of which he is guilty.
The Civil War has started. You should probably go on down to the gun store and purchase a weapon and some ammunition.
As it happens, I was at the local gun shop getting 500 2.23 when the owner said "Holy shit, they shot Charlie Kirk."
A bad development. I saw a fair bit of what Kirk posted on Youtube. I agreed with Kirk about 80/20 or maybe 90/10. He was an extremely effective conservative activist.
Its a great loss to the conservative cause in the US.
I'm not going to presume to make predictions about what comes next.
What can change? The only effective change has to come from the left, but that ain't going to happen.
This changed me. I have thoughts that some of my democratic friends might not be worth it. They too are so delicate. They cannot handle ANY discomfort and disagreement. For them, democrat is true religion.
I'm tired of it. The left are collectively insane. and have been made insane by very evil people in the media and around the media...
MSNBC is a disgrace.
O Mike -
"Greg Gutfeld (paraphrased): 'They could have killed Kirk easily in so many settings. That they chose this so brazen, public manner is a message.'
Damn right it is."
Damn damn right it is.
The evil corrupt democratic-left want everyone in line - or dead.
The only effective change has to come from the left
Oh no it doesn't. No, indeed.
The leftist Academia will use this murder to spurn all Conservative speech on our nation's college campuses. They'll do it under the guise of requiring "security" for Republican events. The costs will be astronomical and force Republicans to cancel all their speaking events - a tactic that has been used before by them.
It's a great news day for the Democrats.
We are on a dark road.
Over at Instapundit Stephen Green reminds us of a prophetic Xweet Charlie Kirk himself posted last April:
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Assassination culture is spreading on the left. Forty-eight percent of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. Fifty-five percent said the same about Donald Trump.
In California, activists are naming ballot measures after Luigi Mangione.
The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy. Any setback, whether losing an election or losing a court case, justifies a maximally violent response.
This is the natural outgrowth of left-wing protest culture tolerating violence and mayhem for years on end. The cowardice of local prosecutors and school officials have turned the left into a ticking time bomb
Prophetic.
In contemplative moments from time to time, I have idly speculated how I would arrange or accept my departure from this world if I found out I was incurably ill with months or weeks to live.
Recently some new ideas have occurred to me.
Thank God for Elon Musk, really.
Twitter was designed precisely to determine which Republicans had "followers" in order to take them out. Musk destroyed all that, but Google/Instagram/Youtube/Facebook still keep lists of who is followed by whom, so that easy target lists can be made.
"Recently some new ideas have occurred to me."
I mean, if you're going anyway, you could do the rest of us a favor. IF you know what I mean, and I think that you do.
It’s open season by democrats on white, Christian, jews.
Trump orders flags to half staff.
"Not understanding the shock.
This should absolutely be expected. It is what the left does every single time. They always resort to force and if they win the result is always a lot of their opponents being killed."
I've been thinking on this for a bit and here's my conclusion:
People on the left seem to be more immersed in politics and connected with others who share their belief of its importance than people on the right are. Many of those on the right have other things to focus their attention on- family and faith, for example- things which much of the left abhors.
The right doesn't live for the struggle the way the left does and would prefer to just be left alone to live their lives. Of course, the left won't allow that.
Not every place in the country is like a big city Democrat war zone. Depending on where you live, if these evil acts (such as the recent murders in the news) aren't thrust in your face on a regular basis, it's easy to become complacent and end up underestimating the seriousness they represent.
Original Mike said...
What can change? The only effective change has to come from the left, but that ain't going to happen.
You don’t wait for evil to change. That never works.
The change will either be confrontation or submission on your part.
Choose.
Traveling this week. Daughter who is not a Kirk fan texted to let me be aware.
Over 150 comments on the last two posts.
So - what is next. Business as usual?
Talking heads on the left would probably be well advised to stay low a few weeks lest some unhelpful arsehole goes Jim Malone on them.
rhhardin said...
"It sounds, just offhand from comments here and elsewhere, that the right hasn't learned anything either."
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OK. Now tell us what we haven't learned. Or are you like the slack-jawed dummies who couldn't any question Charlie posed to them.
My bet is, YES.
"So - what is next."
I think the better question is "Who is next?"
My money's on Elon Musk. I think they will murder him next.
He is the Democrats' top threat now - by orders of magnitude. His control of X has completely disrupted the Democrats message machine and they simply cannot have that.
The left has spent a lot of time and effort creating tech systems to determine who is powerful, who has reach, who is influential so that they can kill the fewest number of people and have the maximum results because they know Americans will tolerate the murders of a few people. Just not a lot of people.
That's why all these algorithms were created.
The incident that finally kicked off the Spanish Civil War, the assassination of José Calvo Sotelo, was more politically loaded than this, which I'm assuming was the act of a "lone wolf". But who knows what investigations will turn up.
Calvo Sotelo was a leader of the Monarchists, which at the time was a very prim and proper center-right party. The US current equivalent would be Senators John Thune or Tom Cotton or Tim Scott perhaps.
The killers of Calvo Sotelo were police (Guardias de Asalto, Assault Guards, a sort of SWAT type urban police organization), with organizational and personal ties to the PSOE (Socialist party). So they were seen as political activists operating under party sanction.
So that murder was seen as open party warfare, of the established parties killing each other, unable to tolerate even the "loyal opposition". To add, this was in the context of a disputed parliamentary election, with charges of fraud flying.
RCOCEAN II said...
"It sounds, just offhand from comments here and elsewhere, that the right hasn't learned anything either."
Its an old lesson, that goes back to 1917. But Righwingers and "Normies" refuse to learn it.
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You too, RC: TELL US what we haven't learned. I suspect it's something about how we have to start shooting back. Is that "the lesson"?
if so SAY IT, or continue being known as a pussy who talks big but keeps his tiny fists in his pockets.
rhhardin said...
"It sounds, just offhand from comments here and elsewhere, that the right hasn't learned anything either."
It was his Choice.
Human rites follow progressive principles are performed to relieve a "burden".
Leftists will bray handmade tales to incite their followers to take affirmative action.
All's fair in lust and abortion. Another bloc in the DEIst wall.
"The murder is sad, but Kirk was a social media star not a war hero.
Maybe you could explain the difference when you get murdered for, and only for, defending the principles of the country. This is worse than a death in war, where you at least have a fighting chance. You think this innocent man and his family were not constantly under threat of this? Yet he still walked into the war zone everyday unarmed, doing nothing but debating ideas, not shooting at the enemy, debating them. The Left has purposely created a war zone, and they are happy that it kills Conservatives most of the time. You sure don't sound bothered much.
I've been thinking on this for a bit and here's my conclusion:
People on the left seem to be more immersed in politics and connected with others who share their belief of its importance than people on the right are. Many of those on the right have other things to focus their attention on- family and faith, for example- things which much of the left abhors.
It isn’t about left or right.
It is about whether you believe that each person is responsible for providing for themselves and the people around them OR if you believe that the government is responsible for taking care of everyone.
If you believe the government is the source of prosperity and the right people must ensure wealth is distributed “fairly” then you necessarily support violence to support your goals.
This is what they are at a fundamental level.
RJW: We know you're a leftist. As you proved with your last sentence. You can't help yourself. You have to say something to try to mitigate political damage to the left. But you compounded the damage instead.
Now isn't the time for "buts." It's the time for harsh, unequivocal of what much of the left has become.
"Who knows what investigations will turn up.
Oh ... (hand raised) I know, I know.
Deranged gunman. Mental health crisis. Isolated event. Known wolf. Shows the need for gun control. Tone down rhetoric. Stop engaging in speech the Democrats hate (known as "hate speech".)
The script is already written bro. It's been ran a thousand times and it always works for them.
It's just not Lib Media talking heads. Just think of all the calls to violence we've heard from elected Democrats, House, Senate, Governors and those not quite so nationally "newsworthy".
The only positive thing that might come out of this is that President Trump and his security detail will start to take his security more seriously. How did those idiot women get so close to our President yesterday. Everyone who didn’t see to it that it didn’t happen should be already looking for a new job.
The right is libertarian. The left is authoritarian. The center is conservative. The left-right nexus is leftist. Principles matter.
#HateLovesAbortion
"It is about whether you believe that each person is responsible for providing for themselves and the people around them OR if you believe that the government is responsible for taking care of everyone."
I agree with the idea that there are those who believe that individuals should run their own lives and those who believe the government should do it. Regarding right/left in my prior comment, I'd say it's typically the right who supports the former and the left, the latter.
It's time for some common sense limitations on liberal whack jobs.
His parents have to be devastated.
The days of controversial people out in the open like that may be over.
How long are we going to pretend we can share a country?
This is terrorism. This is a threat to each and every person who agrees with Charlie and each and every person who attended.
the left demand ultimate power. the left are the Nazis and they want us dead or in their gulag being re-programmed to obey them.
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Revelation 21:4
He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.
"The murder is sad, but Kirk was a social media star not a war hero."
What?
He was killed for his speech. that's as bad as it gets.
I couldn't disagree with Kirk more, and my heart breaks for his young family.
I'm very afraid for how the Trump will exploit this.
My primary observation from reading social media: Democrats are consistently condemning political violence and urging calm, while MAGA supporters are intensifying their rhetoric and openly expressing a desire for retribution against broad groups they identify as enemies.
The best outcome of this is they find the shooter and the shooter turns out to be trans. This could then be used for political impetus to finally start treating transgenderism as a mental illness again instead of trying to mainstream it, as well as bringing back involuntary commitment mental institutions, which some people, including some but not all trans folks, need to protect themselves and other people from them.
What if the murderer gets away?
The Calvo Sotelo thing in a US context - assume that in the aftermath of the 2020 election the DC Capitol police had formed a death squad that went out and murdered Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis.
Federal authorities have confirmed that the suspect in the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk is now in custody. The announcement came from FBI Director Kash Patel, who thanked Utah’s local and state law enforcement for their swift coordination with federal agents.
"What if the murderer gets away?"
Does it matter? The Democrats control all the prosecutors. They've been letting every Democrat criminal get away. And those who don't get away are freed on no bond. They get pleaded out for nothing charges and get time served.
We're not going to lawyer our way out of this, Dave. Lawyers created this (no offense to your kid, who is joining their team).
I'm very afraid for how the Trump will exploit this.
Republicans pounce!
Did anyone here expect anything better from Kak?
Kash Patel reports that they have the suspected shooter in custody.
Kaki will be staring a defense fund for the guy pretty soon.
Democrats are consistently condemning political violence and urging calm,
They're openly celebrating on Bluesky, you lying piece of shit.
Kakistocracy said...
I couldn't disagree with Kirk more, and my heart breaks for his young family.
I'm very afraid for how the Trump will exploit this.
My primary observation from reading social media: Democrats are consistently condemning political violence and urging calm, while MAGA supporters are intensifying their rhetoric and openly expressing a desire for retribution against broad groups they identify as enemies.
Republicans Pounce.
Leftists shoot people. Those damn Republicans get mad. Bad Republicans.
You are just completely incompatible with a free society.
They better find the murderer because a 200 yard shot sounds too much like the See Eye Aye.......the Deep State is like Cartman, they do what they want no matter the leadership
More kaka from the kakistophage:
My primary observation from reading social media: Democrats are consistently condemning political violence and urging calm
30 seconds on X or Reddit proves you to be a bald-faced liar.
This is not just a murder, but a blatantly political murder.
That makes the "bloody shirt" (there actually is one here) a natural element of the reaction.
Dave Begley said...
What if the murderer gets away?
It doesn't matter.
There are millions more behind him.
We will all arm ourselves. Take shooting lessons. The Democrat party is a terrorist organization.
Southern Poverty Law Center Puts Largest Conservative Grassroots Youth Group on ‘Hate Map’ With Klan Chapters
Kirk was tall, good-looking, and likable. The Left can’t have someone like him speaking on college campuses.
"I'm very afraid for how the Trump will exploit this."
Fuck you.
Why don't you show some decency and shut up and go away for a while?
"This is not just a murder, but a blatantly political murder."
Yes.
Up-and-coming Rush Limbaugh type with millions of followers.
Broad daylight.
Cameras rolling.
Blood everywhere.
On the eve of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
Democrats have pounced.
They'll keep doing this. Spreading out the murders so as to dampen down enthusiasm amongst Republicans for retribution. Their media allies are already spreading the "hate speech" exception to political assassinations of this type.
There must be lots of private video of the shooting. Hopefully it all gets uploaded to the internet so that the private sleuths can analyze it. How can we trust the Federal government no matter who sits at the top?
I don't think that I would be overstating matters to assert that Charlie Kirk is/was as important to as many people today as MLK was in his time. For many the same reasons as well.
"You too, RC: TELL US what we haven't learned. I suspect it's something about how we have to start shooting back. Is that "the lesson"?"
Typical internet. Why don't you take your own shot? Always running in to comment on the comments. And of course, "demanding explainations". LOL.
I'm not interested in that.
Charlie's bloody shirt read "freedom".
It is important to note: Charlie was murdered because he was EFFECTIVE! He converted many people, and that cannot be left standing.
Kak said:
"I'm very afraid for how the Trump will exploit this."
Typical democratic shithead.
You're afraid? hmmm - Really? Is someone poised to blow your head off? Like they did Charlie.
Exploited? Excuse me? Your team is a terrorist organization.
Shall we rewind the tape to this. The biden hate Speech - where he went full Nazi against 50% of US Citizens.
oh - this like after an Islamic male kills a bunch of innocent people - and the media goons(D) remind us to check our Islamophobia?
Kak wrote: "I'm very afraid for how the Trump will exploit this."
I'm very afraid that Trump will forget all about this in about 3 news cycles and two visits to the golf course, and never fully exploit it the way say ... a Rahm Emmanuel type would.
Kash Patel tweeted that they now has a suspect in custody.
The GOP should shut down the government at the end of the month and not open until a balance budget is approved. For Charlie.
Kakistocracy said...
"I couldn't disagree with Kirk more, and my heart breaks for his young family.
I'm very afraid for how the Trump will exploit this."
This is your Norm MacDonald moment, Kak!
I’m sorry Kak but in this instance, you suck the root bag, man.
Two comments from Ace of Spades to cheer us all up a tiny bit - those of us who have a sick sense of humor, at least - one replying to the other:
"A. Wow; The Democrats can't even join in a moment of prayer. Terrible!"
"B. Because their prayer rituals require nudity, sodomy, drugs, and the removal of a heart from a virgin child.
Not exactly family friendly for C-SPAN."
R.I.P. Charlie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYzLna5UzA
I needed some Leon.
Is Charlie Kirk our Archduke Ferdinand?
I’m watching something amazing. NBC, no less than NBC, has given ALL of this evening’s news show over to covering the Kirk shooting. Just amazing.
Yeah, I’m a cynic when it comes to the left. What are they up to?
Imagine RR being assassinated long before being governor when he gave conservative speeches around the country. Or WFB while attending receptions after filming Firing Line episodes at camuses.
Democrat rhetoric has always been deranged. I'm 74, every Republican presidential candidate since Ike has been called a fascist or nazi in my lifetime by the Dems.
So the jackasses claiming MAGA has been stoking violence needs to explain 3 assassination attempts, one now successful. That doesn’t include the praised assassination by the left of the UHC CEO nor the various recent trans mass shootings of Christian schools followed by Democrat politicians attacking “thoughts and prayers”.
Explain it or fuck off. Because we see you, and we have let you say stupid things long enough now. Change your behavior, or you will find the right changing theirs towards you.
Kirk wasn't an official, so he wasn't voting on bills or making policy. He was just a guy who argued persuasively for his beliefs. And it looks like someone killed him for it.
He's a martyr for free speech.
Speaking of the the Left's ongoing, industrialized "hate speech" here's a doozy targeting TPUSA! "The Southern Poverty Law Center is comparing the largest conservative grassroots youth organization to the Ku Klux Klan, adding Turning Point USA to its “hate map” that plots KKK chapters and claims to expose “the groups upholding white supremacy in the United States.”
The Biden hate Speech - where he went full Nazi against 60% of US Citizens.
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"Charlie Kirk had it coming" is more deranged than anything they accuse Kirk of saying.
Kak is simpatico in the way that the guillotine is sympathetic with the neck it cuts. Just my judgement.
The actual murderer is obviously a nut case but there is something very wrong that ordinary people can believe that Charlie Kirk was a "bad person" who deserved to be assassinated simply because he held different views and voiced his opinions.
I'm trying coming to grips with the shock of him being killed in a public event, not really comprehending how this could happen. This shit can't continue with the "globalize the intifada" and "any means necessary" BS.
Honestly, he wasn't an important public official, he had no political position or power. He was a positive, bright, passionate and friendly guy who just wanted to dialogue with people and educate them and maybe get them to think differently.
I find this horrible event devastating. Sickening.
Kakistocracy said...
I couldn't disagree with Kirk more, and my heart breaks for his young family
How about some specifics: about what did you disagree, and why?
A few examples should do.
I just got word the shooter has been cought.
Democrats are the party of terror and murder.
Demons. This is from Simsbury Ct. I grew up in Ct. Simsbury was where the rich New York transplants lived. I can't believe how vile the Democrat party there is. I hope this goes viral, and they get run out of Ct.
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1965890339446923458
Big Mike.
60% - perhaps now. the normals are waking up.
Some reaction videos on Youtube pick out deranged leftoid TikToks reacting to the Kirk murder with glee. It seems that TikTok is the venue of choice for leftist extremists? Its hard to say how well these represent the climate of opinion on that edge of politics. Its certain that the MSM does not.
Kakistocracy said...
My primary observation from reading social media: Democrats are consistently perpetrating political violence and urging calm,
9/10/25, 5:32 PM
There. Fixed the lie.
I texted my son just now, a big fan of Charlie Kirk, and asked what he was thinking.
He replied simply: "I think Charlie would want us to pray for peace."
This kid is a hothead who was ready to go to DC on Jan. 6, and almost certainly would have been one of those arrested for invading the Capitol, before we talked him out of it. He started following Kirk around the same time, and I'm not sure that he would have shown such maturity or equanimity today without that influence. Props to both of them.
That said, we're both quite ready for war, if that's what the Left chooses.
Illegal migration, surgical alteration of children, lax enforcement of public safety laws, are so important to the left that they are willing to kill people over it?
I don't understand the level of hate.
Kakabich unintentionally becomes Norm McDonald.
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