"... because his audience is GONE, and his 'talent' was never there. Why would they want someone back who does so poorly, who’s not funny, and who puts the Network in jeopardy by playing 99% positive Democrat GARBAGE. He is yet another arm of the DNC and, to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major Illegal Campaign Contribution. I think we’re going to test ABC out on this. Let’s see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true bunch of losers! Let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad Ratings."Writes Donald Trump, at Truth Social.
It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are.
MEANWHILE:
Go to 5:42 for the part about Ted Cruz. Go to 6:34 for the denial of any "intention to make light of the murder of a young man."
While I like Trump, he gives into temptation on this stuff too easily. I don't think he's trying to CENSOR Kimmel so much as he's dick measuring over the success of The Apprentice over Kimmel show. But his point about equal time..... is apt. Especially since democrats were so in favor of equal time provisions when it came to Rush Limbaugh. Personally I say let Kimmel keep his trash show. Let him continue to look like the simpering crybaby petty fool liar that he is. On the other and his ratings being garbage, why is he still on the air?
Schumer was just on Morning Blow decrying the "test ABC out" thing. The pre-MSNBC Joe Scarborough, or even the Scarborough Fare Joe Scarborough, would have said "six ways from Sunday, huh, Chuck? The President has six ways from Sunday to get back at a network..."
They also had Hillary on for two blocks (no, that's not a yo-mama joke; I mean she was on through a commercial break). She was also, without irony, talking about how late-night hosts made fun of her and her husband without repercussions. CC, JSM
Shut it Inga. Roseanne, a comedienne was censored along with Trump, and lots of other Conservatives for years. Trying to make what your side does something that we do isn't going to work. Kimmel was suspended and had 3 days off Charlie Kirk lost his life for free speech. Sit down.
Lefties push the envelope of the law: we’re doing everything we can for the cause of goodness and light. Our lawyers have groundbreaking theories. If we lose 5-4, it’s just because some of those old Justices haven’t gotten with the times.
Righties push the envelope of the law: Fascists! Tyrants! Disbar their lawyers! Thank Gaia we had that fifth Justice! CC, JSM
It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are.
Yeah, it is. It makes the White House look weak by being disrespected. They could have applied pressure on ABC behind the scenes, or just waited to see if the drop in revenue at ABC and affiliate boycott got Kimmel's show dropped in a few months.
When Trump does something that doesn't make sense, I assume that he knows what he's doing. Trump has done more for America in 8 months, then other modern presidents have accomplished in 8 years.
Trump has now set up a pattern of censoring his enemies.
Who's been censored?
I, like several on this blog, don't like Trump's comments. But I will point out that Obama and Biden both actually censored their enemies - they just didn't telegraph their intent or actions publicly. So far Trump is loving up to his commitment to transparency, as well as to the rule of law. Again, in contrast to his predecessors in both administrations.
After it all comes out that Biden demanded Social media censor people - you leftists are wining over a lying fraud over-paid propogandist for the democratic-mob party. A vile liar who repeated the lies you all buy about Charlie Kirks killer.
the denial of any "intention to make light of the murder of a young man" wasn't the issue - it's that he lied about the identity of the assassin, peddling disinformation to his dwindling, credulous audience.
Calling conservative normies "cultists" is sadly ironic given all the woke/leftwing messaging in recent years urging people to cut off contact with their republican family members. Inga, you really have to be a complete dope not to recognize that it's your side that relies on "programming" of vulnerable souls in service of political aims.
"It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are."
Bush II tried to ignore the calumnies the Dems and their robotic minions heaped upon him daily. All he accomplished was to make himself appear even more helpless and insipid. That's why Trump counterattacks.
People are still very angry that a product of leftwing manipulation/hate and lies was obviously inspired to take the life of a man who just wants to talk to people. That rage - Trump is feeling it. We all are feeling it- and it will not stop.
As Kamala said about all the Rioting... Looting ... Arson... and rage inspired BS and lies from the corrupt left - She said about that rioting: "It's not going to stop."
Our revenge for a radical leftist assassinating Charlie Kirk and reminding ALL LEFTISTS of your part in it - WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.
Deflection noted Achilles. My point stands: Trump bragged about pressuring ABC for money. That’s a shakedown, not a debate about RF spectrum.
You can shout about airwaves all you want, but it doesn’t explain away the mafia-style ‘they paid me last time’ threat.
Companies like ABC that blatantly lie in service to the Democrat party should pay fines. CBS settled because they got caught actively lying for Kamala Harris and didn't want to go through discovery.
Really they should just have the bandwidth taken back and given to an organization that doesn't lie for the democrat party.
These are public airwaves not Democrat party lying airwaves.
"If the government tried to silence Jimmy Kimmel because they were trying to push through some sort of merger and [Trump] doesn't like Jimmy Kimmel, that should be exposed." ~ Joe Rogan
The punching down Trump that I don't really like makes another appearance. Kimmel will be irrelevant (again) in a week or two, then eventually off the air. He's a sideshow.
I haven't watched anything on the major networks for a really long time. Especially the news or late night so-called comedy. I could care less about Kimmel. Now Gutfeld - that's pretty funny comedy and worth my time to watch.
So Achilles, your answer to Trump’s shakedown is government deciding which media outlets are allowed to exist based on partisan loyalty. That’s not protecting the ‘public airwaves’ — that’s textbook authoritarianism. My point stands: Trump bragged about shaking down a network for cash. That’s the issue, not your dream of state-run media.
Wince @ 9:04AM, there’s a big difference between Kimmel doing satire and a president bragging about extracting millions from a network. Kimmel doesn’t control the FCC or the DOJ. A private lawsuit is one thing — a sitting president suggesting ‘pay up or else’ is another. That’s not ‘nose off,’ that’s a shakedown. Please explain how that isn’t abuse of power.
Extortion isn’t new in Trump’s playbook, look at what he’s been doing to law firms, universities, what he did to Ukraine in his first term. He acts like a Mafia boss and injures the respectability of the Office of the Presidency and makes the US a laughing stock in the world.
You folks can defend Trump all you want until your blue in the face. This was a big win for the Democrats because Trump decided to use the DNC playbook by being hateful and petty and unAmerican. He made a two-bit hack like Jimmy Kimmel look like a statesman.
I don't disagree with Howard at 9:19. I could rationalize that Trump has every right to get retribution and that being open about it is somewhat more noble than pretending to not being doing what is being done. However, doing it at all elevates Kimmel, who does enough to destroy himself if the President would get out of the way.
Look what Trump does to news agencies who publish things that hurt his feelings or reveals his secrets. Frivolous lawsuits, that will be probably all be dismissed because of anti-SLAPP laws. The bottom line is Trump does what he feels he can to silence his enemies.
Kimmel opened his monologue with "jokes" that fell flat, like claiming that comedians from Germany offered him a job. “This country has become so authoritarian, the Germans are like, ‘Come here. Cut loose,'” he quipped. The real focus of his monologue was trying to frame his suspension as a political hit job orchestrated by the Trump administration.
When Kimmel addressed the controversy that got him suspended — you know, when he lied about Charlie Kirk’s killer being a MAGA supporter — he grew serious and even appeared to get emotional. He disavowed the idea that he had joked about a murder and explained that he was much too fine a person to do any such thing. And he took pains to disconnect the assassination from any political ideology:
That was a very sweet monologue. Kimmel's voice cracked hard with genuine emotion when he talked about the murder of a young man.
Interesting to compare this clip to the clip that got him kicked off the airwaves. The first was very smug, very harsh, dishonest, and not funny at all.
This clip is very human and very real. Still not actually funny, but he's a lot more likable now. He feels bad that an innocent man was murdered. You'd think a lot of people on the left would feel this way. Sadly, they do not. And Kimmel was one of those people who sounded like they didn't give a damn, in his original clip.
Kakistocracy said... "If the government tried to silence Jimmy Kimmel because they were trying to push through some sort of merger and [Trump] doesn't like Jimmy Kimmel, that should be exposed." ~ Joe Rogan
That chain of cause and effect seems confused. To prove the point I think Rogan is trying to make, you'd have to show: Kimmel's lying about Kirk's murderer was used a pretext to threaten some sort of merger to derail Kimmel because "Trump doesn't like Kimmel."
But how can you disentangle Trump's dislike of Kimmel from Kimmel's on-air comments about Kirk's murder, which is in fact the sum and substance of the regulatory claim against Kimmel?
Go to 6:34 for the denial of any "intention to make light of the murder of a young man."
Poor Jimmy Kimmel. Poor, poor Jimmy Kimmel. Nobody understands what he is trying to say. Nobody gets him. He didn’t really say what he really said. Nope.
I haven't seen Kimmel on TV since The Man Show, so I am amused at his reappearance as a newsworthy subject. If his show had been canceled, he would have deserved it for his blood libel against MAGA - that the Kirk murderer was a MAGA supporter when one has to be willfully irrational to think that. Now that he is back, any attention he gets will likely be from further personal vileness, which is a great brand advertisment of the Left, for all sane people everywhere.
I think Biden trying to persuade social media companies to self sensor re covid is different. He didn’t threaten government action if they didn’t do what he wanted. Did he?
"Calling conservative normies "cultists" is sadly ironic given all the woke/leftwing messaging in recent years urging people to cut off contact with their republican family members."
Both sides can be (and indeed are) mindless, cults. Strange but true!
Howard said... You folks can defend Trump all you want until your blue in the face. This was a big win for the Democrats because Trump decided to use the DNC playbook by being hateful and petty and unAmerican. He made a two-bit hack like Jimmy Kimmel look like a statesman. ----- You're easy, Howard. Some of us have higher standards...
"jim5301 said... I think Biden trying to persuade social media companies to self sensor re covid is different. He didn’t threaten government action if they didn’t do what he wanted. Did he?"
First it was Biden. The guy was a potted plant. It was his staff. And they didn't have to threaten. The social media companies were on their side.
Kimmel was half right. The disciplined MAGA upbringing of the assassin was why the furry transphillic gamer nutbar was successful in completing his horrible mission. Do you think that a feminized child of Berkeley professors could have pulled it off?
Yes, Americans prefer insincere words spoken in a suitably "presidential" tone. That's how we got dragged into a dozen wars we didn't need to be involved in. Trump says what he thinks, and we're shocked by the inappropriateness of it all.
“Now that he is back, any attention he gets will likely be from further personal vileness…”
It was no more vile that saying the killer was for sure a leftist. No one knows what was the killer’s rational beyond saying that he killed Kirk because he was hateful. We don’t even know yet if there wasn’t a second shooter.
so far there is CLEAR evidence that Charlie Kirk's assassin was a leftist. Much of that from the evidence itself - much of it from the mouths of leftists in power. Non-stop "Fascist" talk and Antifa support from the left.
The liar left cannot face facts. So they LIE.
4 years of crook Joe and his criminal administration - using Social Media to go after Biden's enemies...actually forcing social media giants to silence enemies - (Covid and other) and label free speech as "mis-information" .
All sorts of parents have children who turn the other way politically. In both directions. Sadly - yes the leftist killer knew how to shoot a gun - thanks to his hunting parents. And? The assassin was radicalized not by "maga" - but by the left.
"I think Biden trying to persuade social media companies to self sensor re covid is different. He didn’t threaten government action if they didn’t do what he wanted. Did he?"
It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are.
…whine all you want hon but he’s right on some counts and correct in sentiment for an portion of the nation that isn’t tolerating being ignored and threatened by the left…
The bottom line is Trump does what he feels he can to silence his enemies.
Thankfully "what he feels he can" is to invoke very real laws and policies, such as the Equal Time rule, the requirements for broadcast licensing, and the process of bringing lawsuits... not, for instance, illegally surveilling, entrapping, and throwing supporters of his political opponents in jail, secretly working with (or "pressuring") social media platforms to ban, shadow-ban, and reduce reach of his opponents and their supporters, or bringing the full weight of broadcast and cable media to beat to convince the American people that his opponents are the second coming of Hitler.
Kimmel got his show back and used his monologue to promote Den policies. Nothing was clever or really funny. The part about his "agreement" with Disney was mildly amusing. But, after last night, why should anyone watch a monologue which is just the same as the other monologues on the other media? This was a Pyrrhic victory. After one of his victories, Pyrrhus, a general who lived in Roman times during a period of chaos, said: Another such victory and I will be completely destroyed. And that's how I see it. We have chained two major networks, CBS and ABC, to leftist money pits. And the left calls that victory. If we can now get NBC to give the left a similar victory ... perhaps we could get them to make Rachel Maddow their anchor at 40 million a year.
Here's a short clip where Kimmel begs people not to vandalize Teslas...and it's a joke. And then he jokes about doctors letting unvaccinated people die. "Rest in Peace, Wheezy."
It's smug and ugly, and not funny. I know he's putting on a performance as a stand-up comic. And you often have to push the envelope, otherwise you're boring. But his politics is synonymous with Trump hatred, and that hatred is hurting his career. I don't know if he learned that lesson.
Kimmel getting his show back only confirms what most if us already know- he’s there for political influence, not comedy. They still value his propaganda and won’t tolerate anything that looks like a Trump victory…
I actually watched most of his monologue last night, which marked the very first time I've watched him. There was one blatant lie in what passed for an apology:
"Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what was obviously a deeply disturbed individual,” Kimmel said.
What so many objected to in the first place was his blaming Kirk's murder on the right and "MAGA".
Inga said... It was no more vile that saying the killer was for sure a leftist. No one knows what was the killer’s rational beyond saying that he killed Kirk because he was hateful. We don’t even know yet if there wasn’t a second shooter."
Ever notice that our resident dullard can quickly determine anyone on the rights thoughts and motivations but dismisses iron clad evidence of why the left does what it does.
Ronald J. Ward said... So Achilles, your answer to Trump’s shakedown is government deciding which media outlets are allowed to exist based on partisan loyalty. That’s not protecting the ‘public airwaves’ — that’s textbook authoritarianism.
Requiring a minimal level of honesty from giant corporations using public airwaves is not authoritarianism.
Curious George. - 9:56 We all do notice. The dullard cannot fathom that the party she worships above all else - is corrupt, hate-filled, mentally ill, and inspires assassination and murder. It's right there - on his bullet casings.
Ronald J. Ward said... A private lawsuit is one thing — a sitting president suggesting ‘pay up or else’ is another.
As I point out above, people seem to be conflating four different things: (1) a potential FCC regulatory claim against Kimmel for his false assertion about Kirk's killer; (2) the pendency of some ABC-related merger before the FCC (and DOJ, FTC?), (3) Trump's speculation about an FEC claim for ABC's in-kind donations by a network, and (4) settlement of Trump's private defamation claim against ABC. Five if you consider the motive for ABC's affiliates not broadcasting Kimmel's show.
In the regulatory proceedings, there's a whole process that has to be followed, including public comment, etc. That's why big companies always want to steer clear of public controversy going into them.
You saw the turn-out for the Kirk memorial. Can you imagine the public comment process ABC et al. face? That's why ABC pulled Kimmel forthwith. Now, to placate the Hollywood left, they brought Kimmel back and will focus group the issue to death in the lead up to any regulatory proceeding.
Like the Kirk memorial, I really don't see Trump as the key player in the direct outcome. What I do see is people trying to censor Trump's speech and access to the judicial system because he's president.
Jim - Kimmel blamed Maga for killing Maga. the left cope with their own violence and violent inspiring rhetoric and Antifa thuggery - by telling themselves and others the big lie. The lie that somehow conservatives want to kill other conservatives. the left did the same thing with both Trump assassins.
“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.
My favorite part is when he tells the world it was not his intention to make light of what happened or insult people on the right when he had an entire room full of comedy writers and himself and the ABC executives working on and approving everything that was said...exactly to make light of it and insult people on the right.
It is what he does. It is who he is. But...he is also a classless, gutless phony who was not even man enough to actually apologize. To say, "I'm sorry". Instead he held up Erika Kirk as a symbol of grace (and you have to know how hard that was for he and his team to accept doing) and hid behind her.
He literally ran from the truth of his own malicious bullshit, then came back and played contrite while he hid behind the grace of the murdered man's wife.
I have no time for cretins like Jimmy Kimmel. He was a low brow comedian years ago. He's a low class human as well, as it turns out.
It’s important to put what Trump says in the context of what the Democrats and their mediaswine have done to him and to add the value of trolling them to that. He will often make us cringe by saying what needs to be said. Kimmel is a pimp for the DNC and now for leftist violence. That’s the bottom line. How nice that Trump can afford to sue ABC.
Wince, you just listed four (or five) processes that might exist, but none of that explains away what Trump himself said: he bragged that ‘last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million,’ and now he wants to ‘test’ ABC again. That’s not regulatory nuance — that’s a shakedown. The question isn’t whether the FCC has procedures, it’s whether a sitting president should be using mob-boss rhetoric about payoffs from a news network.
I don’t watch Kimmel or any late night comedy. But I did watch the monologue last night. [10M views on YT]. IMO he was sincere and even teared up a couple time. Sure, he also told jokes about Trump and Cruz and the FCC chairman Carr but his audience expected that. Give them what they want. I would expect the same from right wing comedians - who admittedly don’t get as much air time on major networks.
@Ronald J Ward (10:21): Oh, bullshit. Democrats and their consorts sue Trump every day, 380 and counting, trying to thwart him by negating Article 2. The rhetoric is irrelevant. You lefties whine whenever your tactics are turned on your ilk. Unfortunately, Trump doesn’t have a plethora of bent Democrat district court judges in his corner.
From what I can find, he said Trump was exploiting the assination for political gain and was insincere.
Part was about Trump's supposed insincerity. Part was about "MAGA" trying to "pretend" that the shooter was from the left. And part was the implication that the shooter was from the right.
I think Carr should've kept his mouth shut; there was no "smoking gun" in Kimmel's monologue, just a typically tasteless display. And beyond the horrific event itself, the real story is the widespread celebration on the left of Kirk's murder.
But as for the equal time claim - that policy hasn't been enforced in some years even though it's still on the books, and of course it's abundantly clear that the broadcast stations have been blatantly in disregard of the rule for those same years. The FCC has every right to demand that broadcasters comply with the rules of their licensing; this is just the first time in decades that there's been an FCC that might actually do it.
Achillies, so if the FCC should punish networks for partisan bias, why hasn’t Fox News faced the same scrutiny for altering stories to favor Republicans? Your argument only works when it suits one party — that’s not about public airwaves, it’s about partisan censorship.
This is obvious cult like deduction; ABC lying = fine them, Fox lying = crickets. That’s selective outrage, not public interest.
After all MAGA and Trump have been put through by these lawless corrupt fools, I just don't care. By comparison, these mere words and even lawsuits and firings are a mild return, and if they suffice to make them reconsider before doing more of their destruction then it's better any alternative.
Ronald J. Ward said... ...but none of that explains away what Trump himself said: he bragged that ‘last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million,’ and now he wants to ‘test’ ABC again.
Trump said... He is yet another arm of the DNC and, to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major Illegal Campaign Contribution. I think we’re going to test ABC out on this. Let’s see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars.
You've never heard of a "test case"? I'm sure Trump, the ultimate non-lawyer, was advised by his legal team on the prospects of finding a "test case" to challenge what he sees as the massive in-kind donation of the dominant media to Democrats.
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Argue the theory in court... Use citators to verify legal precedent. If your theory relies on existing case law, use a citator like Westlaw's KeyCite to ensure the precedent has not been overturned or negatively affected by a more recent decision.
Pursue appeals if necessary. A test case may need to be appealed through the court system to get a ruling at a higher level, potentially reaching the Supreme Court. An organization might bring a case specifically to reach the Supreme Court and get a ruling on an important issue of public interest.
Before this latest Kimmel controversy, what I find ironic is ABC offered Trump a $16 million settlement. Isn't that Kimmel's annual salary?
Trump might act more presidential if the Democrats and their gangs would acknowledge that he is President. It’s the least they could do after lying and foisting their President Turnip on us for four years.
Even if this episode never happened, Kimmel deserves to be fired. He is the worst performing host in Tonight Show history and it's not even close, and he may be the worst performer in all of late night TV. He's a failure at what's he's paid for. I'd say the same about Gutfeld if he had Kimmel's rating performance. How bad do you need to suck to get fired on the left?
Ronald J. Ward said... Achillies, so if the FCC should punish networks for partisan bias, why hasn’t Fox News faced the same scrutiny for altering stories to favor Republicans?
I find your terms acceptable.
You mean like when Obama threatened their licenses?
You won’t get any defense for Fox News from me. I don’t think Fox News is an honest source of information and I don’t think Rupert Murdoch should get special treatment.
I think all corrupt corporate media should start facing consequences for their bullshit. Especially the warmongering.
Any objective appraisal of Trump has to include the following: --He has a thick hide, shrugging off invective of his enemies at a level unseen since George McClellan called Abraham Lincoln the Original Gorilla. --His bluster is much worse than his bite. --He lends himself to foolish rants like the one at issue here. It costs him support in the middle. Many women despise and fear him. --In his second term, he is too interventionist in economic matters. We need light-touch government regulation and low marginal tax rates. A planned and directed economy ends in tears. --As bad as he is, his opponents are worse. Their reactions are revealing. They have nothing to offer but the 20% side of most 80-20 cultural issues. --Kimmel's original statement was the "imbecilic monologue of a washed-up late-night talk-show host" as described by Gerard Baker of WSJ. It was and is no big deal.
“Speech... it ain't free no more... If you wanna say something nice about the president's thick, yellow hair, or that he can do his makeup better than any broad? That's free. But if you wanna do a joke like, he's so fat he needs two seats on the Epstein jet? That's gonna cost ya." 🤣
Kakistocracy said... “Speech... it ain't free no more... If you wanna say something nice about the president's thick, yellow hair, or that he can do his makeup better than any broad? That's free. But if you wanna do a joke like, he's so fat he needs two seats on the Epstein jet? That's gonna cost ya." 🤣
What is really going to cost you is the Biden regime forcing google and YouTube to censor their opponents.
We're back to the "he tweets mean words" thing I see.
Many well-known democrat politicians, including Obama, Pelosi, Jeffries, Schumer, Biden, Harris, and multiple US senators and house members don't seem to even be able to avoid inciting or praising, or excusing progressive political violence. Two of the biggest progressive podcasters have walked right up to the legal line of actual incitement. Which also holds true for almost all of the LW commenters here. Virtually none of those politicians or of your LW wing commenters can bring themselves to make an unqualified condemnation of that violence or even admit what a blind man can see: almost all of the political violence in the country is committed by the left with the right as its target.
More on your LW commentors. With few exceptions, they are fanatics. As demonstrated by the fact that almost none of them can keep their mouth shut when it would obviously serve the country, and especially the left to do so. I'm talking about you, Kaka, Inga, Gadfly, and company. Google sociopathy.
Since cable and streaming are the wild west of news and entertainment, various organizations can carve niches (Fox News, MSNOW (does that stand for MS National Organization of Women?), and CNN). Broadcast is different. It goes over the public airwaves and is regulated. You would think that at least one of NBC, CBS, and ABC would try to steer a late night show back to the Johnny Carson/Jay Leno mode.
so if the FCC should punish networks for partisan bias, why hasn’t Fox News faced the same scrutiny for altering stories to favor Republicans?
Because Fox News doesn't have a government approved monopoly of a broadcast channel over a large region. Do you even understand why the FCC was created and exists or is this your normal stupidity of commenting on topics you have no ability to understand and grasp?
"It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are."
Trump is considering using the law to punish bad behavior, not urging Republican voters to violence.
Remember when the Democrat Party President told his Democrat Party terrorist supporters to "Punch back twice as hard", "Bring a gun to a knife fight" and to "Get in their faces"? I do. Remember when the Democrat Party President broadcast a televised address that was so offensive to most Americans that not one of the major networks would not allow it because he was calling for his political opponents to be hounded and driven from American society? I do.
I remember those evil incitements, but I don't remember Althouse denouncing them.
Democrat Party AWFL's have very selective memories and very different reactions when Democrat Party presidents make explicit calls for violence against Republicans.
Yet another Democrat Party terrorist attack against law enforcement in Dallas today. Democrat Party inspired and instigated terrorist attacks are now basically a daily occurrence. It's hard to believe that Libtard Democrat Party members are murdering American citizens for their political beliefs, but.... Aw, who's kidding who? It's very easy to believe because Democrat Party leaders from their President to their senators to their congresscumbags to their actors and writers and Fake News journOlisters to their teachers and academics and university professors and students and rando shitheads on the internet have been explicitly calling for it, praising it, and celebrating it. And that's where we are.
bagoh20 said...@10:37 “After all MAGA and Trump have been put through by these lawless corrupt fools, I just don't care.
By comparison, these mere words and even lawsuits and firings are a mild return, and if they suffice to make them reconsider before doing more of their destruction then it's better any alternative.”
Hold your cards everyone, we have a BINGO! I’ve been warning all along that the argument would go from “Trump isn’t a dictator” to “a dictatorship would be better than what we have now”. And there it is- that textbook example of moral rationalization sliding into authoritarian acceptance that dictators have groomed the cult with for years.
That “I just don’t care” is a chapter in itself- willing to overlook dangerous behavior because you feel the target (Trump/MAGA) is being unfairly attacked. That’s the moral suspension phase that precedes acceptance of rule-breaking or authoritarian tactics.
Another important chapter- “These mere words and even lawsuits and firings are a mild return” — reframes coercion, intimidation, or abuse of power as acceptable or justified retaliation- a key step in rationalizing authoritarianism.
“Better any alternative” — any means, even morally or legally questionable, are justified if they serve the in-group. This is the ends-justify-the-means mindset that makes people tolerate dictatorship-like behavior.
In plain terms: this is moving from frustration at perceived enemies to accepting, even condoning, coercive or abusive tactics from leaders you support — a classic gateway into authoritarian normalization.
Notice Bagoh’s logic here: perceived past wrongs justify overlooking or even endorsing intimidation and abuse. That’s exactly how tolerance for authoritarian behavior grows.
Send National Guard and Military into that crime ridden State and clean it up like Washington. Expect an EO from the emperor anytime now. Trump working it well before Mid Terms So he can claim "emergency situation" martial law or invasion and therefore have to cancel MID TERMS (like Zelensky says cant have elections during war) He is meticulously ginning up the rabble for it. Stand back and stand by..
“Hold your cards everyone, we have a BINGO! I’ve been warning all along that the argument would go from “Trump isn’t a dictator” to “a dictatorship would be better than what we have now”. And there it is- that textbook example of moral rationalization sliding into authoritarian acceptance that dictators have groomed the cult with for years.”
Yes, I’ve heard this sentiment coming from Trump supporters on line several times now. My God, what is happening to the US?!
“Speech... it ain't free no more... If you wanna say something nice about the president's thick, yellow hair, or that he can do his makeup better than any broad? That's free. But if you wanna do a joke like, he's so fat he needs two seats on the Epstein jet? That's gonna cost ya." 🤣
Thanks for giving me a chuckle a couple times the last two days. It’s been getting very dark around here.
it would have been very simple, but hes a slow stupid child,
I apologize for my mischaracterizing the killer of Charlie Kirk i saw some of the memorial services and I saw the deep and enduring love and respect they had for him, I will gladly contribute a part of my salary in memory of Charlie and his cause, because freedom of speech, even on difficult issues is important,
but you are a nasty woman, you already sold us on that, case closed, Charlie would have pity on your soul and hope you would repent, but re that Kipling refrain, thats not likely,
Kimmel was half right. The disciplined MAGA upbringing of the assassin was why the furry transphillic gamer nutbar was successful in completing his horrible mission. Do you think that a feminized child of Berkeley professors could have pulled it off?
School shooters seem to come as often from liberal families as from conservative ones. I suppose the Berkeley professors wouldn't have guns around the house, but it might be surprising to learn how many Democrat households do. I'd imagine, though, that if the Berkeley professors' child was sunk in furry fantasy and gaming as this nutbar was, it wouldn't be hard for him to get his hands on a weapon and plan an atrocity.
Ace headline "Jimmy Kimmel Disgraces Himself: No Apology, No Acknowledgement of His Disinformation or a Correction, Says The Killer is Merely a "Sick Person," Demands MAGA Forgive Him"
This is why Trump went off. Kimmil(D) is just another f*ing lying asshole who cannot face the fact that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by what the corrupt left built.
Poor Inga- Charlie Kirk was killed because your pathetic vile party built a hate and lie machine - corrupted young minds with vengeful hate and Antifa thuggery - and you are sad. Sad not for Charlie - but for you. Why are so many democratic cultists self-centered assholes?
I remember when they aired Amerika, a promising series, with a very good script, by Lionel Chetwynd, about a Soviet occupation, ironically they made Sam Neil the Soviet commisar the hero, and ostensibly the protagonist played by Kris Kristofferson, a rather pathetic figure,
Congress wrote the rules for the FCC and Trump has sworn to faithfully execute the laws whether Democrats want them enforced or not. Is Disney ABC's programming serving "the public interest" using our shared broadcast spectrum or not? The FCC would be well within its purview to hold local meetings and hear from the public to answer that question. And that was always at the heart of Chairman Carr's remarks: the public interest. Hoaxes and known lies are hard to prove, and it is easy to believe Jimmy was just too uninformed to know what the truth is. So this is where we are, with the president venting about the horrible media empire that has taken an oppositional stand against conservatives all across the country.
“It’s hard to believe “ c’mon. A polite, euphemistic untruth, of the type Trump is often accused of lying about. Why not honestly state “Trump sounding like a bully, again, continuing to be an embarrassment rather than a President to be proud of”. I’m proud of his policies & results, and his words are in no way a surprise, much less hard to believe. Yet there’s an argument that honestly going after them, and saying that’s what you’re doing, is better going after them like Dems do, but lie about it. Like Obama did. Should a President, or the govt, be able to after rich broadcasters who are wholly dependent on govt access, and have written agreements about behavior? I say yes, and publicize the agreement, the duty of broadcaster, and point out the alleged violation. The the courts decide, including public opinion. I’m happier with the truth, said in crass way, than the usual half-true weasel words.
"Inga said... Trump has now set up a pattern of censoring his enemies. It’s very obvious to all except his cultists.
9/24/25, 8:38 AM"
LOL. See, this sort of thing is why Inga will always be the #1 response generator on Althouse.
The other leftys may go back an forth for a while, but Inga can pretend to be serious and post a dumb 2 liner and get 20 endorphin producing responses.
Only other even close was LLR titty twister, on the spectrum, pecan pie Chuck, who has apparently joined an Althouse Anonymous 12 step program.
Airwaves/bandwidth are not owned by the broadcaster. They are government property - like it or not. Broadcasters lease the bandwidth from the government. They sign a contract - get a license to broadcast. The contract is very specific about what the broadcaster can and cannot do. Break the rules of the contract, lose your license. The broadcasters routinely break the rules with little to no push back. Trump and Carr are using the law of the contract to push back. That is not censorship.
Yah, saw my radio on air friend at a wedding this weekend. He they are always sensitive to content. Cursing is a big fine. Free speech? On the radio there are rules…
Sorry james, disagreement with MAGA doesn't categorize anyone as left-wing or fanatic. I have been a Republican and a conservative for my entire adulthood, and I have been anti-Trump from the first day I read everything I found about him after Rush Limbaugh confused the Hell out of me by embracing the grifter-now-in-charge, who turns out to be a known NY gangster.
I also wonder why you and the guys don't push for the firing of Jesse Waters after he called to "Bomb the U.N.", or 'Maybe Gas It,' after a broken escalator forced Trump to climb the stairs manually, and when the teleprompter operator couldn't keep up with Trump's 45 minutes of off-script comments.
"It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are."
Trump has been writing and publishing (and saying aloud) such infantile insults and drivel for the whole of his presidency and preceding it. It's hard so many Americans can think this man is anything but an emotionally disturbed seven-year old (in the form of a badly deteriorated old man)! Forget about his "political" (sic) positions, his low level of intelligence and his contempt for all others, his unceasing lying, and his decades of criminal behavior should make all intelligent adults loath to ever cast a vote for him. That so many did tells me that the state of many of our fellow citizens is similarly corrupted and stunted.
"Sorry james, disagreement with MAGA doesn't categorize anyone as left-wing or fanatic. I have been a Republican and a conservative for my entire adulthood, and I have been anti-Trump from the first day I read everything I found about him after Rush Limbaugh confused the Hell out of me by embracing the grifter-now-in-charge, who turns out to be a known NY gangster."
Well said, Gadfly. I grew up in a Republican home, and I voted for Ford and Reagan in the first two presidential elections I was old enough to vote. By the time of Reagan's second run, I had wised up and I have never voted for any Republican for the presidency since. I voted for a few Dem candidates, (Mondale, Dukakis, and Clinton--not so happy about any of them, but better than the Republicans.) Beginning with Clinton's second run, I began voting for Green Party candidates--protest votes against unsuitable Dems, who have moved more to the right for several decades--which I continued to do for every election until 2024, when I voted (again with misgivings) for Kamala Harris, my pitiful hope to help her win. Any sane person can only see Trump as the worst human being to have been a president and the worst president we have endured in our modern times, if not for the entire history of our Republic.
This lengthy preamble for my brief point: one of my brothers, (both still Republicans) could not bring himself to vote for the wretched Trump back in 2016 or again in 2024. He remains a Republican, but he cannot abide Trump's corruption, his stupidity, his narcissism, his stupidity, his cruelty, his stupidity, his criminality, his disdain for all others but himself, his stupidity, his unceasing lying and grifting and all his other miserable failings...and his stupidity.
Just as only a small portion of self-proclaimed American Christians are actually Christians, only a small number of Republicans have the courage and/or discerning (or mere disgust) to reject the stinking mound of shit that Trump is and was selling and was able to sell.*
*(Unless, as some indications indicate, his "win" in 2024 was fake, rigged, a con job.)
I think Biden trying to persuade social media companies to self sensor re covid is different. He didn’t threaten government action if they didn’t do what he wanted.
It's difficult to believe there are people amongst us who are this fucking stupid. But there ya go.
Gadfly and Cook calling themselves Republicans is not a joke, folks. Remember in 2008 when right-leaning websites and comment sections were suddenly full of "people" saying crap like: "I've always been a Republican and never voted for a Democrat in my life, but gee whiz this Obama guy, he's special..." It's a tried and true tactic out of the Communist Party playbook. It's how they take over organizations that would normally have nothing to do with leftist scum, it's how the Teamsters union turned Comintern in the 40's. It's bullshit. Hey shitheads, you've been showing your filthy asses for years here, we know what you are. Go Fuck Yourselves.
Here is the actual quote. I was even nice enough to bold the part you obviously don't understand.
“The Maga gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it
Gadfly and Cook calling themselves Republicans is not a joke, folks.
It is. This blog has been around longer than 2008, and they have always been left. But, you are still right. Lonejustice came around not long ago, and he did the same bullshit line, “I was Republican until Trump”. And just the past two weeks, he blamed Republicans for events going back to the 1990s. He wants us to believe that Republicans carried out such attacks, yet he also didn’t care, but when Trump, who was financially backing Democrats in the 90’s, came around, then he had enough. Bullshit.
There was a turning point around 2008. W ignored free markets and bailed out the failed banks. It also became obvious he either knew the IC lied to him about WMD in Iraq or had them lie. But that might have been just W, except McCain came along to double down. Blaming Palin for his loss was a bridge too far for most Republicans. Romney was pathetic. Trump was the first President since Reagan to fight for Republican ideals on the campaign trail and in office.
Howard (9:31am): The killer's "disciplined MAGA upbringing"?
Apparently I have to repeat what I wrote about this on the Memorial - Live thread:
"MAGA began when Trump came down the escalator to announce his candidacy on June 16, 2015. That's 10 1/4 years ago. The killer is 22. He was already 12 years old, or close to it, before MAGA was born, and lived more than half his life before he or his parents ever heard of MAGA.
"And he probably knew how to shoot by then, too: small-town Utahns start shooting, and hunting, in middle school. He may have already started to get in touch with his non-standard sexuality, or started to despise his parents' beliefs, or both, by then, without any help at all from MAGA.
"By the way, is there any evidence that his parents are MAGA? [Pictures of them wearing the hat, for instance?] Everyone agrees they're conservative Republicans, but they're also Mormons. They may well be the kind of conservative Republicans who find Trump vulgar and only vote for him reluctantly, if at all."
Idiots on Twitter are claiming that the Dallas shooter must have been MAGA, because he only shot illegals. Apparently they assume shooters always hit exactly the targets they're aiming at. Which is obviously stupid: I'm pretty sure the Butler shooter (may his name be cast into oblivion) would much rather have grazed Cory Comperatore's ear and killed Trump dead than what he actually did, which was the other way around.
We are here with a President writing like that because 44 and 46 were fundamentally transforming America into a Fascist State, but with a unique sidehack - men getting pregnant.
no prof, kimmel used the death of charlie kirk to lie about MAGA and make fun of trump. kimmel said his statements were ill-timed? when is the proper time to promote a falsehood? he said he never meant to blame a specific group for the death of charlie kirk. i dont mind placing blame of the guilty party, but he blamed MAGA for charlie's death, which puts a target on MAGA's back and he NEVER apologized for lying about it.
"Gadfly and Cook calling themselves Republicans is not a joke, folks."
Not reading for comprehension and stating your misunderstanding publicly makes you look stupid. I said I had been a Republican back in the fricking 70s, when I voted for Gerald Ford (1976) and then Ronald Reagan (1980)! After that, I wised up.
Both of my brothers remain registered Republicans, but one of them refused to vote for Trump--2016, 2020, and 2024--as he recognizes Trump is a disaster as a human being and as a person with any position of decision-making and authority, whether in business or government.
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Yeah, this isn't a great look.
Trump does his own wet work. It's how he rolls. We can tut-tut all we want, but he won't change.
It's not a great look, but it is Trump at his vindictive/aggressive best. He's still pi**ed about the last 8 or 9 years.
While I like Trump, he gives into temptation on this stuff too easily. I don't think he's trying to CENSOR Kimmel so much as he's dick measuring over the success of The Apprentice over Kimmel show. But his point about equal time..... is apt. Especially since democrats were so in favor of equal time provisions when it came to Rush Limbaugh. Personally I say let Kimmel keep his trash show. Let him continue to look like the simpering crybaby petty fool liar that he is. On the other and his ratings being garbage, why is he still on the air?
Schumer was just on Morning Blow decrying the "test ABC out" thing. The pre-MSNBC Joe Scarborough, or even the Scarborough Fare Joe Scarborough, would have said "six ways from Sunday, huh, Chuck? The President has six ways from Sunday to get back at a network..."
They also had Hillary on for two blocks (no, that's not a yo-mama joke; I mean she was on through a commercial break). She was also, without irony, talking about how late-night hosts made fun of her and her husband without repercussions. CC, JSM
Trump is petty and cunty.
Trump has now set up a pattern of censoring his enemies. It’s very obvious to all except his cultists.
Today's Behold the LEFT moment
So Kimmel stole Trump's line when Trump had a rally after he was shot at. How funny is that??
https://youtu.be/4moBVWUumxo
President Asshole. And, he's doing a damn fine job of living up to his Queen's birthplace. It's who we voted for.
He should have definitely been more presidential and just threatened to take Kimmel out behind the gym and beat him.
Inag - your party is a terrorist organization. You are a know leftist liar.
Shut it Inga. Roseanne, a comedienne was censored along with Trump, and lots of other Conservatives for years. Trying to make what your side does something that we do isn't going to work. Kimmel was suspended and had 3 days off Charlie Kirk lost his life for free speech. Sit down.
This is how Trump always has been. But somehow, when you point it out, you get accused of TDS.
the only morons who watch kimmil are hive-mind old whites / leftist cultists.
Good people have better things to do.
Gutfeld's monologue - jump to 2:30 mark.
Charlie Kirk is killed by a leftwing assassin.
Leftist cultists whine over a not-funny asshole who lies on behalf of the corrupt evil democrat party.
Trump is reenforcing that Kimmel is not rehabilitated. He's still shit.
Inga said...
Trump has now set up a pattern of censoring his enemies. It’s very obvious to all except his cultists.
Idiot doesn't know what censorship is.
Censorship is what youtube and google admit they helped Biden do to conservatives for 4 years you piece of shit.
"Hey Fascist, Catch" etched onto the bullet casing.
Reddit boy, furry porn, living with a boy who is trans, parents and friends all confirm killer is "left", not a registered republican.
Inga repeats Groyper nonsense, Candace Owens has "interesting" theories crapola, and other boogaloo russia russia-MSNBC toxic lies.
When the Trump goes full protection racket… tell me again how this isn’t a shakedown.
Fuck you Inga. Dem leadership actually pressured social media to censor their enemies. So fuck off with that bullshit.
Lefties push the envelope of the law: we’re doing everything we can for the cause of goodness and light. Our lawyers have groundbreaking theories. If we lose 5-4, it’s just because some of those old Justices haven’t gotten with the times.
Righties push the envelope of the law: Fascists! Tyrants! Disbar their lawyers! Thank Gaia we had that fifth Justice! CC, JSM
Calling for Kimmel to be fired for lying about Charlie Kirk's killer is not censorship.
You are a retard if you think it is.
It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are.
Yeah, it is. It makes the White House look weak by being disrespected. They could have applied pressure on ABC behind the scenes, or just waited to see if the drop in revenue at ABC and affiliate boycott got Kimmel's show dropped in a few months.
When Trump does something that doesn't make sense, I assume that he knows what he's doing. Trump has done more for America in 8 months, then other modern presidents have accomplished in 8 years.
Trump has now set up a pattern of censoring his enemies.
Who's been censored?
I, like several on this blog, don't like Trump's comments. But I will point out that Obama and Biden both actually censored their enemies - they just didn't telegraph their intent or actions publicly. So far Trump is loving up to his commitment to transparency, as well as to the rule of law. Again, in contrast to his predecessors in both administrations.
Ronald J. Ward said...
When the Trump goes full protection racket… tell me again how this isn’t a shakedown.
Why is ABC granted this bandwidth?
I have just as much right to those airwaves as ABC.
If they are granted these RF bands do they have some responsibility to the people of the country?
The answer is yes you fucking idiot.
After it all comes out that Biden demanded Social media censor people - you leftists are wining over a lying fraud over-paid propogandist for the democratic-mob party. A vile liar who repeated the lies you all buy about Charlie Kirks killer.
Fuck you.
the denial of any "intention to make light of the murder of a young man" wasn't the issue - it's that he lied about the identity of the assassin, peddling disinformation to his dwindling, credulous audience.
Calling conservative normies "cultists" is sadly ironic given all the woke/leftwing messaging in recent years urging people to cut off contact with their republican family members. Inga, you really have to be a complete dope not to recognize that it's your side that relies on "programming" of vulnerable souls in service of political aims.
"It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are."
Bush II tried to ignore the calumnies the Dems and their robotic minions heaped upon him daily. All he accomplished was to make himself appear even more helpless and insipid. That's why Trump counterattacks.
People are still very angry that a product of leftwing manipulation/hate and lies was obviously inspired to take the life of a man who just wants to talk to people.
That rage - Trump is feeling it. We all are feeling it- and it will not stop.
Deflection noted Achilles. My point stands: Trump bragged about pressuring ABC for money. That’s a shakedown, not a debate about RF spectrum.
You can shout about airwaves all you want, but it doesn’t explain away the mafia-style ‘they paid me last time’ threat.
I cut Trump lots of slack. Breitbart said that politics is downstream from culture so maybe that's why Trump is such a culture warrior.
Trump's not perfect, but he's our guy and has done an absolute amazing job.
I think we’re going to test ABC out on this. Let’s see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars.
That was a private legal action by Trump.
If Kimmel et al. can do "clown nose on, clown nose off," why can't Trump do "president nose on, president nose off"?
As Kamala said about all the Rioting... Looting ... Arson... and rage inspired BS and lies from the corrupt left -
She said about that rioting: "It's not going to stop."
Our revenge for a radical leftist assassinating Charlie Kirk
and reminding ALL LEFTISTS of your part in it -
WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.
Ronald J. Ward said...
Deflection noted Achilles. My point stands: Trump bragged about pressuring ABC for money. That’s a shakedown, not a debate about RF spectrum.
You can shout about airwaves all you want, but it doesn’t explain away the mafia-style ‘they paid me last time’ threat.
Companies like ABC that blatantly lie in service to the Democrat party should pay fines. CBS settled because they got caught actively lying for Kamala Harris and didn't want to go through discovery.
Really they should just have the bandwidth taken back and given to an organization that doesn't lie for the democrat party.
These are public airwaves not Democrat party lying airwaves.
"It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are."
It makes the left cry. Keep it up.
"If the government tried to silence Jimmy Kimmel because they were trying to push through some sort of merger and [Trump] doesn't like Jimmy Kimmel, that should be exposed." ~ Joe Rogan
The punching down Trump that I don't really like makes another appearance. Kimmel will be irrelevant (again) in a week or two, then eventually off the air. He's a sideshow.
I haven't watched anything on the major networks for a really long time. Especially the news or late night so-called comedy. I could care less about Kimmel. Now Gutfeld - that's pretty funny comedy and worth my time to watch.
Kimmel doesn't work for ABC News.
This seems like a pig wrestling match for both sides.
So Achilles, your answer to Trump’s shakedown is government deciding which media outlets are allowed to exist based on partisan loyalty. That’s not protecting the ‘public airwaves’ — that’s textbook authoritarianism. My point stands: Trump bragged about shaking down a network for cash. That’s the issue, not your dream of state-run media.
Wince @ 9:04AM, there’s a big difference between Kimmel doing satire and a president bragging about extracting millions from a network. Kimmel doesn’t control the FCC or the DOJ. A private lawsuit is one thing — a sitting president suggesting ‘pay up or else’ is another. That’s not ‘nose off,’ that’s a shakedown. Please explain how that isn’t abuse of power.
DeeDee is predictable, bumfuzzled and Sideshow Bobish.
Bad Hombre
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Not a year into Trump’s second term and so far we’ve gotten Democrats to:
- Sell their Teslas at a loss.
- Cancel their Washington Post and Amazon Prime subscriptions.
- Boycott CBS, ABC, and Disney.
- Hold candlelight vigils for Venezuelan narco-terrorists.
- Fly to El Salvador to have margaritas with MS-13.
- Refuse to stand up for a kid with cancer.
- Get fired for cheering political assassinations.
- Mock the victims of a school shooting for praying.
- Overdose on Tylenol to spite Trump and Bobby Kennedy.
Kimmel's tears made me laugh like his words never have.
"After it all comes out that Biden demanded Social media censor people"
The problem with Biden (and Obama) wasn't that they were censoring *the wrong* stuff. 🤦🏼♂️
Jimmy’s a follower of Jesus? Pull the other one.
Kimmel is just another leftwing simpering simp in a nation chock full of ‘em.
Extortion isn’t new in Trump’s playbook, look at what he’s been doing to law firms, universities, what he did to Ukraine in his first term. He acts like a Mafia boss and injures the respectability of the Office of the Presidency and makes the US a laughing stock in the world.
You folks can defend Trump all you want until your blue in the face. This was a big win for the Democrats because Trump decided to use the DNC playbook by being hateful and petty and unAmerican. He made a two-bit hack like Jimmy Kimmel look like a statesman.
These lefty fools macrodosing Tylenol should be cheered on and encouraged to imbibe large quantities of alcoholic beverages.
I don't disagree with Howard at 9:19. I could rationalize that Trump has every right to get retribution and that being open about it is somewhat more noble than pretending to not being doing what is being done. However, doing it at all elevates Kimmel, who does enough to destroy himself if the President would get out of the way.
Look what Trump does to news agencies who publish things that hurt his feelings or reveals his secrets. Frivolous lawsuits, that will be probably all be dismissed because of anti-SLAPP laws. The bottom line is Trump does what he feels he can to silence his enemies.
Kimmel opened his monologue with "jokes" that fell flat, like claiming that comedians from Germany offered him a job. “This country has become so authoritarian, the Germans are like, ‘Come here. Cut loose,'” he quipped. The real focus of his monologue was trying to frame his suspension as a political hit job orchestrated by the Trump administration.
When Kimmel addressed the controversy that got him suspended — you know, when he lied about Charlie Kirk’s killer being a MAGA supporter — he grew serious and even appeared to get emotional. He disavowed the idea that he had joked about a murder and explained that he was much too fine a person to do any such thing. And he took pains to disconnect the assassination from any political ideology:
--Matt Margolis:
That was a very sweet monologue. Kimmel's voice cracked hard with genuine emotion when he talked about the murder of a young man.
Interesting to compare this clip to the clip that got him kicked off the airwaves. The first was very smug, very harsh, dishonest, and not funny at all.
This clip is very human and very real. Still not actually funny, but he's a lot more likable now. He feels bad that an innocent man was murdered. You'd think a lot of people on the left would feel this way. Sadly, they do not. And Kimmel was one of those people who sounded like they didn't give a damn, in his original clip.
Nice to know Jimmy Kimmel has a heart.
Kakistocracy said...
"If the government tried to silence Jimmy Kimmel because they were trying to push through some sort of merger and [Trump] doesn't like Jimmy Kimmel, that should be exposed." ~ Joe Rogan
That chain of cause and effect seems confused. To prove the point I think Rogan is trying to make, you'd have to show: Kimmel's lying about Kirk's murderer was used a pretext to threaten some sort of merger to derail Kimmel because "Trump doesn't like Kimmel."
But how can you disentangle Trump's dislike of Kimmel from Kimmel's on-air comments about Kirk's murder, which is in fact the sum and substance of the regulatory claim against Kimmel?
Go to 6:34 for the denial of any "intention to make light of the murder of a young man."
Poor Jimmy Kimmel. Poor, poor Jimmy Kimmel. Nobody understands what he is trying to say. Nobody gets him. He didn’t really say what he really said. Nope.
I haven't seen Kimmel on TV since The Man Show, so I am amused at his reappearance as a newsworthy subject. If his show had been canceled, he would have deserved it for his blood libel against MAGA - that the Kirk murderer was a MAGA supporter when one has to be willfully irrational to think that. Now that he is back, any attention he gets will likely be from further personal vileness, which is a great brand advertisment of the Left, for all sane people everywhere.
I think Biden trying to persuade social media companies to self sensor re covid is different. He didn’t threaten government action if they didn’t do what he wanted. Did he?
“You'd think a lot of people on the left would feel this way. Sadly, they do not.’
They do. You want to believe that half of the US is as vindictive and hateful as the other half, I think you’re mistaken.
"Calling conservative normies "cultists" is sadly ironic given all the woke/leftwing messaging in recent years urging people to cut off contact with their republican family members."
Both sides can be (and indeed are) mindless, cults. Strange but true!
Howard said...
You folks can defend Trump all you want until your blue in the face. This was a big win for the Democrats because Trump decided to use the DNC playbook by being hateful and petty and unAmerican. He made a two-bit hack like Jimmy Kimmel look like a statesman.
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You're easy, Howard.
Some of us have higher standards...
"They do. You want to believe that half of the US is as vindictive and hateful as the other half, I think you’re mistaken."
It's 60%. Sixty percent are vindictive and stupid and hateful. There is about 30% on each side.
"jim5301 said...
I think Biden trying to persuade social media companies to self sensor re covid is different. He didn’t threaten government action if they didn’t do what he wanted. Did he?"
First it was Biden. The guy was a potted plant. It was his staff. And they didn't have to threaten. The social media companies were on their side.
Kimmel was half right. The disciplined MAGA upbringing of the assassin was why the furry transphillic gamer nutbar was successful in completing his horrible mission. Do you think that a feminized child of Berkeley professors could have pulled it off?
Yes, Americans prefer insincere words spoken in a suitably "presidential" tone. That's how we got dragged into a dozen wars we didn't need to be involved in. Trump says what he thinks, and we're shocked by the inappropriateness of it all.
“Now that he is back, any attention he gets will likely be from further personal vileness…”
It was no more vile that saying the killer was for sure a leftist. No one knows what was the killer’s rational beyond saying that he killed Kirk because he was hateful. We don’t even know yet if there wasn’t a second shooter.
Remember, in real time, Achilles made a good case for this being a professional hit
Gramsci. Hegemony. Its about the battle for the commanding heights of the society and culture. It's a war, not a nice social process.
so far there is CLEAR evidence that Charlie Kirk's assassin was a leftist. Much of that from the evidence itself - much of it from the mouths of leftists in power. Non-stop "Fascist" talk and Antifa support from the left.
The liar left cannot face facts. So they LIE.
4 years of crook Joe and his criminal administration - using Social Media to go after Biden's enemies...actually forcing social media giants to silence enemies - (Covid and other) and label free speech as "mis-information" .
Google admits to letting Biden control them.
Peachy,
Good last, but you forgot to include "got the left to make a full-throated defense of the Second Amendment"
All sorts of parents have children who turn the other way politically. In both directions.
Sadly - yes the leftist killer knew how to shoot a gun - thanks to his hunting parents. And?
The assassin was radicalized not by "maga" - but by the left.
Trump "cited a $16 million payment that the network made last year to settle a previous defamation lawsuit that he filed against ABC News." ~ NYT
And that's why you don't cave to these thugs. Payoff them off doesn't make them go away, it emboldens them to come back for more.
’It was no more vile that saying the killer was for sure a leftist.’
Other than the video of him leading a chant at a Democrat Socialists Rally in Salt Lake.
Charlie Kirks' assassin - All of the evidence points to a radicalized leftist.
"Hey fascist, catch" - that is leftist. not a little leftist - 100% leftist.
"I think Biden trying to persuade social media companies to self sensor re covid is different. He didn’t threaten government action if they didn’t do what he wanted. Did he?"
Check out Operation Chokepoint.
It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are.
…whine all you want hon but he’s right on some counts and correct in sentiment for an portion of the nation that isn’t tolerating being ignored and threatened by the left…
The bottom line is Trump does what he feels he can to silence his enemies.
Thankfully "what he feels he can" is to invoke very real laws and policies, such as the Equal Time rule, the requirements for broadcast licensing, and the process of bringing lawsuits... not, for instance, illegally surveilling, entrapping, and throwing supporters of his political opponents in jail, secretly working with (or "pressuring") social media platforms to ban, shadow-ban, and reduce reach of his opponents and their supporters, or bringing the full weight of broadcast and cable media to beat to convince the American people that his opponents are the second coming of Hitler.
Obviously, *to bear.
Kimmel got his show back and used his monologue to promote Den policies. Nothing was clever or really funny. The part about his "agreement" with Disney was mildly amusing. But, after last night, why should anyone watch a monologue which is just the same as the other monologues on the other media? This was a Pyrrhic victory. After one of his victories, Pyrrhus, a general who lived in Roman times during a period of chaos, said: Another such victory and I will be completely destroyed. And that's how I see it. We have chained two major networks, CBS and ABC, to leftist money pits. And the left calls that victory. If we can now get NBC to give the left a similar victory ... perhaps we could get them to make Rachel Maddow their anchor at 40 million a year.
He’s the worst except for all the others. Have you listened to the shit that comes out of the mouths of…every one of his opponents lately?
Here's a short clip where Kimmel begs people not to vandalize Teslas...and it's a joke. And then he jokes about doctors letting unvaccinated people die. "Rest in Peace, Wheezy."
It's smug and ugly, and not funny. I know he's putting on a performance as a stand-up comic. And you often have to push the envelope, otherwise you're boring. But his politics is synonymous with Trump hatred, and that hatred is hurting his career. I don't know if he learned that lesson.
Kimmel getting his show back only confirms what most if us already know- he’s there for political influence, not comedy. They still value his propaganda and won’t tolerate anything that looks like a Trump victory…
Did the 70 affiliates who said they would drop Kimmel drop him? I hope so…
I actually watched most of his monologue last night, which marked the very first time I've watched him. There was one blatant lie in what passed for an apology:
"Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what was obviously a deeply disturbed individual,” Kimmel said.
What so many objected to in the first place was his blaming Kirk's murder on the right and "MAGA".
“It was no more vile that saying the killer was for sure a leftist.”
“Other than the video of him leading a chant at a Democrat Socialists Rally in Salt Lake.”
Fact Check: Viral Video Does NOT Show Tyler Robinson Speaking At Event For Democratic Socialists of America
Inga said...
It was no more vile that saying the killer was for sure a leftist. No one knows what was the killer’s rational beyond saying that he killed Kirk because he was hateful. We don’t even know yet if there wasn’t a second shooter."
Ever notice that our resident dullard can quickly determine anyone on the rights thoughts and motivations but dismisses iron clad evidence of why the left does what it does.
Ronald J. Ward said...
So Achilles, your answer to Trump’s shakedown is government deciding which media outlets are allowed to exist based on partisan loyalty. That’s not protecting the ‘public airwaves’ — that’s textbook authoritarianism.
Requiring a minimal level of honesty from giant corporations using public airwaves is not authoritarianism.
You are stupid if you think is is.
Can anyone here tell me what Kimmel said that was offensive about Kirk?
From what I can find, he said Trump was exploiting the assination for political gain and was insincere.
Curious George. - 9:56
We all do notice.
The dullard cannot fathom that the party she worships above all else - is corrupt, hate-filled, mentally ill, and inspires assassination and murder.
It's right there - on his bullet casings.
Antifa's protocol is to - silence "fascists" just like the leftist did Charlie Kirk. Read their language.
Howard said...
Remember, in real time, Achilles made a good case for this being a professional hit
I don’t think we know 10% of what happened here.
Given current information I believe there is a very strong chance we find out there was another shooter.
It is also blatantly obvious there were other people involved in this shooting as a coordinated event with at least 3 people involved. Probably more.
It is near certainty the shooter was planning on someone else picking up his gun and the drop spot was planned.
Ryan Routh was arrested… -arrested- 74 times and had extensive contact with the CIA. Routh spent 0 days in jail after being arrested 74 times.
People are just not being honest about what is going on right now.
jim said...
Can anyone here tell me what Kimmel said that was offensive about Kirk?
Kimmel blatantly lied on public airwaves to support the Democrat Party.
Ronald J. Ward said...
A private lawsuit is one thing — a sitting president suggesting ‘pay up or else’ is another.
As I point out above, people seem to be conflating four different things: (1) a potential FCC regulatory claim against Kimmel for his false assertion about Kirk's killer; (2) the pendency of some ABC-related merger before the FCC (and DOJ, FTC?), (3) Trump's speculation about an FEC claim for ABC's in-kind donations by a network, and (4) settlement of Trump's private defamation claim against ABC. Five if you consider the motive for ABC's affiliates not broadcasting Kimmel's show.
In the regulatory proceedings, there's a whole process that has to be followed, including public comment, etc. That's why big companies always want to steer clear of public controversy going into them.
You saw the turn-out for the Kirk memorial. Can you imagine the public comment process ABC et al. face? That's why ABC pulled Kimmel forthwith. Now, to placate the Hollywood left, they brought Kimmel back and will focus group the issue to death in the lead up to any regulatory proceeding.
Like the Kirk memorial, I really don't see Trump as the key player in the direct outcome. What I do see is people trying to censor Trump's speech and access to the judicial system because he's president.
Jim - Kimmel blamed Maga for killing Maga.
the left cope with their own violence and violent inspiring rhetoric and Antifa thuggery - by telling themselves and others the big lie. The lie that somehow conservatives want to kill other conservatives. the left did the same thing with both Trump assassins.
“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.
My favorite part is when he tells the world it was not his intention to make light of what happened or insult people on the right when he had an entire room full of comedy writers and himself and the ABC executives working on and approving everything that was said...exactly to make light of it and insult people on the right.
It is what he does. It is who he is. But...he is also a classless, gutless phony who was not even man enough to actually apologize. To say, "I'm sorry". Instead he held up Erika Kirk as a symbol of grace (and you have to know how hard that was for he and his team to accept doing) and hid behind her.
He literally ran from the truth of his own malicious bullshit, then came back and played contrite while he hid behind the grace of the murdered man's wife.
I have no time for cretins like Jimmy Kimmel. He was a low brow comedian years ago. He's a low class human as well, as it turns out.
It’s important to put what Trump says in the context of what the Democrats and their mediaswine have done to him and to add the value of trolling them to that. He will often make us cringe by saying what needs to be said. Kimmel is a pimp for the DNC and now for leftist violence. That’s the bottom line. How nice that Trump can afford to sue ABC.
Wince, you just listed four (or five) processes that might exist, but none of that explains away what Trump himself said: he bragged that ‘last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million,’ and now he wants to ‘test’ ABC again. That’s not regulatory nuance — that’s a shakedown. The question isn’t whether the FCC has procedures, it’s whether a sitting president should be using mob-boss rhetoric about payoffs from a news network.
I don’t watch Kimmel or any late night comedy. But I did watch the monologue last night. [10M views on YT]. IMO he was sincere and even teared up a couple time. Sure, he also told jokes about Trump and Cruz and the FCC chairman Carr but his audience expected that. Give them what they want. I would expect the same from right wing comedians - who admittedly don’t get as much air time on major networks.
Would that Trump were everything he is, but Black.
@Ronald J Ward (10:21): Oh, bullshit. Democrats and their consorts sue Trump every day, 380 and counting, trying to thwart him by negating Article 2. The rhetoric is irrelevant. You lefties whine whenever your tactics are turned on your ilk. Unfortunately, Trump doesn’t have a plethora of bent Democrat district court judges in his corner.
From what I can find, he said Trump was exploiting the assination for political gain and was insincere.
Part was about Trump's supposed insincerity. Part was about "MAGA" trying to "pretend" that the shooter was from the left. And part was the implication that the shooter was from the right.
I think Carr should've kept his mouth shut; there was no "smoking gun" in Kimmel's monologue, just a typically tasteless display. And beyond the horrific event itself, the real story is the widespread celebration on the left of Kirk's murder.
But as for the equal time claim - that policy hasn't been enforced in some years even though it's still on the books, and of course it's abundantly clear that the broadcast stations have been blatantly in disregard of the rule for those same years. The FCC has every right to demand that broadcasters comply with the rules of their licensing; this is just the first time in decades that there's been an FCC that might actually do it.
Achillies, so if the FCC should punish networks for partisan bias, why hasn’t Fox News faced the same scrutiny for altering stories to favor Republicans? Your argument only works when it suits one party — that’s not about public airwaves, it’s about partisan censorship.
This is obvious cult like deduction; ABC lying = fine them, Fox lying = crickets. That’s selective outrage, not public interest.
In the words of Billy Joel:
"We didn't start the fire
No, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it"
I posted Ki**el's original offensive quote and it got spam-foldered. Hmmm…
After all MAGA and Trump have been put through by these lawless corrupt fools, I just don't care.
By comparison, these mere words and even lawsuits and firings are a mild return, and if they suffice to make them reconsider before doing more of their destruction then it's better any alternative.
Ronald J. Ward said...
...but none of that explains away what Trump himself said: he bragged that ‘last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million,’ and now he wants to ‘test’ ABC again.
Trump said...
He is yet another arm of the DNC and, to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major Illegal Campaign Contribution. I think we’re going to test ABC out on this. Let’s see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars.
You've never heard of a "test case"? I'm sure Trump, the ultimate non-lawyer, was advised by his legal team on the prospects of finding a "test case" to challenge what he sees as the massive in-kind donation of the dominant media to Democrats.
AI Overview
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Pursue appeals if necessary. A test case may need to be appealed through the court system to get a ruling at a higher level, potentially reaching the Supreme Court. An organization might bring a case specifically to reach the Supreme Court and get a ruling on an important issue of public interest.
Before this latest Kimmel controversy, what I find ironic is ABC offered Trump a $16 million settlement. Isn't that Kimmel's annual salary?
Trump might act more presidential if the Democrats and their gangs would acknowledge that he is President. It’s the least they could do after lying and foisting their President Turnip on us for four years.
‘…why hasn’t Fox News faced the same scrutiny for altering stories to favor Republicans?’
Examples, please.
Even if this episode never happened, Kimmel deserves to be fired. He is the worst performing host in Tonight Show history and it's not even close, and he may be the worst performer in all of late night TV. He's a failure at what's he's paid for. I'd say the same about Gutfeld if he had Kimmel's rating performance. How bad do you need to suck to get fired on the left?
he keeps lying, I guess thats why ABC keeps him on
Ronald J. Ward said...
Achillies, so if the FCC should punish networks for partisan bias, why hasn’t Fox News faced the same scrutiny for altering stories to favor Republicans?
I find your terms acceptable.
You mean like when Obama threatened their licenses?
You won’t get any defense for Fox News from me. I don’t think Fox News is an honest source of information and I don’t think Rupert Murdoch should get special treatment.
I think all corrupt corporate media should start facing consequences for their bullshit. Especially the warmongering.
yes fox, because of the tortuous dominion suit, really did not
behave with flying colors, but compared to cnn and msnbc, they are peter zenger,
Ward must be a ward of the State… Atascadero State Hospital for teh Criminally Insane.
more like syme, that eventually was still vaporized by big brother,
Any objective appraisal of Trump has to include the following:
--He has a thick hide, shrugging off invective of his enemies at a level unseen since George McClellan called Abraham Lincoln the Original Gorilla.
--His bluster is much worse than his bite.
--He lends himself to foolish rants like the one at issue here. It costs him support in the middle. Many women despise and fear him.
--In his second term, he is too interventionist in economic matters. We need light-touch government regulation and low marginal tax rates. A planned and directed economy ends in tears.
--As bad as he is, his opponents are worse. Their reactions are revealing. They have nothing to offer but the 20% side of most 80-20 cultural issues.
--Kimmel's original statement was the "imbecilic monologue of a washed-up late-night talk-show host" as described by Gerard Baker of WSJ. It was and is no big deal.
Fox News is a cable product and is not subject to FCC regulation.
“Speech... it ain't free no more... If you wanna say something nice about the president's thick, yellow hair, or that he can do his makeup better than any broad? That's free. But if you wanna do a joke like, he's so fat he needs two seats on the Epstein jet? That's gonna cost ya." 🤣
"Vaccinated person having a heart attack? Yes, come right in, we’ll take care of you. Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse goo? Rest in peace, wheezy.'”
Mass social media censorship and bans.
Joementia 's Dark Brandon speech.
How we got here.
Kakistocracy said...
“Speech... it ain't free no more... If you wanna say something nice about the president's thick, yellow hair, or that he can do his makeup better than any broad? That's free. But if you wanna do a joke like, he's so fat he needs two seats on the Epstein jet? That's gonna cost ya." 🤣
What is really going to cost you is the Biden regime forcing google and YouTube to censor their opponents.
(Perhaps also a couple attempts on the prez, followed by assassination of fellow traveler seeking dialog)
We're back to the "he tweets mean words" thing I see.
Many well-known democrat politicians, including Obama, Pelosi, Jeffries, Schumer, Biden, Harris, and multiple US senators and house members don't seem to even be able to avoid inciting or praising, or excusing progressive political violence. Two of the biggest progressive podcasters have walked right up to the legal line of actual incitement. Which also holds true for almost all of the LW commenters here. Virtually none of those politicians or of your LW wing commenters can bring themselves to make an unqualified condemnation of that violence or even admit what a blind man can see: almost all of the political violence in the country is committed by the left with the right as its target.
More on your LW commentors. With few exceptions, they are fanatics. As demonstrated by the fact that almost none of them can keep their mouth shut when it would obviously serve the country, and especially the left to do so. I'm talking about you, Kaka, Inga, Gadfly, and company. Google sociopathy.
Since cable and streaming are the wild west of news and entertainment, various organizations can carve niches (Fox News, MSNOW (does that stand for MS National Organization of Women?), and CNN). Broadcast is different. It goes over the public airwaves and is regulated. You would think that at least one of NBC, CBS, and ABC would try to steer a late night show back to the Johnny Carson/Jay Leno mode.
so if the FCC should punish networks for partisan bias, why hasn’t Fox News faced the same scrutiny for altering stories to favor Republicans?
Because Fox News doesn't have a government approved monopoly of a broadcast channel over a large region. Do you even understand why the FCC was created and exists or is this your normal stupidity of commenting on topics you have no ability to understand and grasp?
"It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are."
Trump is considering using the law to punish bad behavior, not urging Republican voters to violence.
Remember when the Democrat Party President told his Democrat Party terrorist supporters to "Punch back twice as hard", "Bring a gun to a knife fight" and to "Get in their faces"? I do.
Remember when the Democrat Party President broadcast a televised address that was so offensive to most Americans that not one of the major networks would not allow it because he was calling for his political opponents to be hounded and driven from American society? I do.
I remember those evil incitements, but I don't remember Althouse denouncing them.
Democrat Party AWFL's have very selective memories and very different reactions when Democrat Party presidents make explicit calls for violence against Republicans.
Yet another Democrat Party terrorist attack against law enforcement in Dallas today. Democrat Party inspired and instigated terrorist attacks are now basically a daily occurrence. It's hard to believe that Libtard Democrat Party members are murdering American citizens for their political beliefs, but.... Aw, who's kidding who? It's very easy to believe because Democrat Party leaders from their President to their senators to their congresscumbags to their actors and writers and Fake News journOlisters to their teachers and academics and university professors and students and rando shitheads on the internet have been explicitly calling for it, praising it, and celebrating it.
And that's where we are.
Peachy said...
"Jim - Kimmel blamed Maga for killing Maga."
Well, probably not.
Ascribing political motivation to the the acts of deranged creepers is risky.
See above: the democrats attack ICE, killing 2 detainees wounding another.
actually he did it again, last night,
bagoh20 said...@10:37
“After all MAGA and Trump have been put through by these lawless corrupt fools, I just don't care.
By comparison, these mere words and even lawsuits and firings are a mild return, and if they suffice to make them reconsider before doing more of their destruction then it's better any alternative.”
Hold your cards everyone, we have a BINGO! I’ve been warning all along that the argument would go from “Trump isn’t a dictator” to “a dictatorship would be better than what we have now”. And there it is- that textbook example of moral rationalization sliding into authoritarian acceptance that dictators have groomed the cult with for years.
That “I just don’t care” is a chapter in itself- willing to overlook dangerous behavior because you feel the target (Trump/MAGA) is being unfairly attacked. That’s the moral suspension phase that precedes acceptance of rule-breaking or authoritarian tactics.
Another important chapter- “These mere words and even lawsuits and firings are a mild return” — reframes coercion, intimidation, or abuse of power as acceptable or justified retaliation- a key step in rationalizing authoritarianism.
“Better any alternative” — any means, even morally or legally questionable, are justified if they serve the in-group. This is the ends-justify-the-means mindset that makes people tolerate dictatorship-like behavior.
In plain terms: this is moving from frustration at perceived enemies to accepting, even condoning, coercive or abusive tactics from leaders you support — a classic gateway into authoritarian normalization.
Notice Bagoh’s logic here: perceived past wrongs justify overlooking or even endorsing intimidation and abuse. That’s exactly how tolerance for authoritarian behavior grows.
Send National Guard and Military into that crime ridden State and clean it up like Washington. Expect an EO from the emperor anytime now. Trump working it well before Mid Terms So he can claim "emergency situation" martial law or invasion and therefore have to cancel MID TERMS (like Zelensky says cant have elections during war) He is meticulously ginning up the rabble for it. Stand back and stand by..
Geez, this clip is going on forever ...
Whatever he gained with his non-apology was lost when he started an aggressive stump speech.
“Hold your cards everyone, we have a BINGO! I’ve been warning all along that the argument would go from “Trump isn’t a dictator” to “a dictatorship would be better than what we have now”. And there it is- that textbook example of moral rationalization sliding into authoritarian acceptance that dictators have groomed the cult with for years.”
Yes, I’ve heard this sentiment coming from Trump supporters on line several times now. My God, what is happening to the US?!
“Speech... it ain't free no more... If you wanna say something nice about the president's thick, yellow hair, or that he can do his makeup better than any broad? That's free. But if you wanna do a joke like, he's so fat he needs two seats on the Epstein jet? That's gonna cost ya." 🤣
Thanks for giving me a chuckle a couple times the last two days. It’s been getting very dark around here.
it would have been very simple, but hes a slow stupid child,
I apologize for my mischaracterizing the killer of Charlie Kirk
i saw some of the memorial services and I saw the deep and enduring love and respect they had for him, I will gladly contribute a part of my salary in memory of Charlie and his cause, because freedom of speech, even on difficult issues is important,
but you are a nasty woman, you already sold us on that, case closed, Charlie would have pity on your soul and hope you would repent, but re that Kipling refrain, thats not likely,
Kimmel was half right. The disciplined MAGA upbringing of the assassin was why the furry transphillic gamer nutbar was successful in completing his horrible mission. Do you think that a feminized child of Berkeley professors could have pulled it off?
School shooters seem to come as often from liberal families as from conservative ones. I suppose the Berkeley professors wouldn't have guns around the house, but it might be surprising to learn how many Democrat households do. I'd imagine, though, that if the Berkeley professors' child was sunk in furry fantasy and gaming as this nutbar was, it wouldn't be hard for him to get his hands on a weapon and plan an atrocity.
Ace headline
"Jimmy Kimmel Disgraces Himself: No Apology, No Acknowledgement of His Disinformation or a Correction, Says The Killer is Merely a "Sick Person," Demands MAGA Forgive Him"
This is why Trump went off. Kimmil(D) is just another f*ing lying asshole who cannot face the fact that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by what the corrupt left built.
Poor Inga- Charlie Kirk was killed because your pathetic vile party built a hate and lie machine - corrupted young minds with vengeful hate and Antifa thuggery - and you are sad. Sad not for Charlie - but for you.
Why are so many democratic cultists self-centered assholes?
I remember when they aired Amerika, a promising series, with a very good script, by Lionel Chetwynd, about a Soviet occupation, ironically they made Sam Neil the Soviet commisar the hero, and ostensibly the protagonist played by Kris Kristofferson, a rather pathetic figure,
Ace has some good stuff
Congress wrote the rules for the FCC and Trump has sworn to faithfully execute the laws whether Democrats want them enforced or not. Is Disney ABC's programming serving "the public interest" using our shared broadcast spectrum or not? The FCC would be well within its purview to hold local meetings and hear from the public to answer that question. And that was always at the heart of Chairman Carr's remarks: the public interest. Hoaxes and known lies are hard to prove, and it is easy to believe Jimmy was just too uninformed to know what the truth is. So this is where we are, with the president venting about the horrible media empire that has taken an oppositional stand against conservatives all across the country.
the few sentences I included up thead, along with a positive gesture, could have got him out of the bear trap with Sinclair,
Narciso, you are expierencing one of the 10 stages of grift.
Did you catch the memorial service that broke out during the WWE style rally?
Kimmel is back, but many Americans won’t be able to watch.
Two companies — Nexstar and Sinclair — control hundreds of local TV stations and have business deals pending Donald Trump’s approval.
They won’t air Kimmel tonight.
I’m pressing for answers on potential corruption.
That's from Elizabeth Warren, on X.
So let me get this straight: private companies have no right to decide on their programming - for whatever reasons.
IOW, Warren is saying, "Bake the cake."
and I say go back to your teepee,
“It’s hard to believe “ c’mon. A polite, euphemistic untruth, of the type Trump is often accused of lying about. Why not honestly state “Trump sounding like a bully, again, continuing to be an embarrassment rather than a President to be proud of”.
I’m proud of his policies & results, and his words are in no way a surprise, much less hard to believe. Yet there’s an argument that honestly going after them, and saying that’s what you’re doing, is better going after them like Dems do, but lie about it. Like Obama did.
Should a President, or the govt, be able to after rich broadcasters who are wholly dependent on govt access, and have written agreements about behavior? I say yes, and publicize the agreement, the duty of broadcaster, and point out the alleged violation. The the courts decide, including public opinion.
I’m happier with the truth, said in crass way, than the usual half-true weasel words.
"D.D. Driver said...
Trump is petty and cunty.
9/24/25, 8:38 AM"
Is that why you guys tried to murder him?
"Inga said...
Trump has now set up a pattern of censoring his enemies. It’s very obvious to all except his cultists.
9/24/25, 8:38 AM"
LOL. See, this sort of thing is why Inga will always be the #1 response generator on Althouse.
The other leftys may go back an forth for a while, but Inga can pretend to be serious and post a dumb 2 liner and get 20 endorphin producing responses.
Only other even close was LLR titty twister, on the spectrum, pecan pie Chuck, who has apparently joined an Althouse Anonymous 12 step program.
Kimmel when he was funny. Hafta give him credit
Peachy said...
Jimmy Kimmel - Racist and Sexual misogynist Predator.
9/23/25, 10:30 AM
like joy behar and katy perry's new beau justin trudeau
Airwaves/bandwidth are not owned by the broadcaster. They are government property - like it or not. Broadcasters lease the bandwidth from the government. They sign a contract - get a license to broadcast. The contract is very specific about what the broadcaster can and cannot do. Break the rules of the contract, lose your license. The broadcasters routinely break the rules with little to no push back. Trump and Carr are using the law of the contract to push back. That is not censorship.
Those of you who have arisen from your fainting couches to call for civility from Trump should, if I may say so politely, eat a bag of dicks.
"Jimmy Kimmel Is an Imbecilic Cowardly Pig"
https://youtu.be/4ZYzhxo1uI4?feature=shared
Fullmoon - thanks for the link! -)
Yah, saw my radio on air friend at a wedding this weekend. He they are always sensitive to content. Cursing is a big fine. Free speech? On the radio there are rules…
"Is that why you guys tried to murder him?"
Who are "my guys." I'm an unaffiliated free agent. Fuck off.
Sorry james, disagreement with MAGA doesn't categorize anyone as left-wing or fanatic. I have been a Republican and a conservative for my entire adulthood, and I have been anti-Trump from the first day I read everything I found about him after Rush Limbaugh confused the Hell out of me by embracing the grifter-now-in-charge, who turns out to be a known NY gangster.
I also wonder why you and the guys don't push for the firing of Jesse Waters after he called to "Bomb the U.N.", or 'Maybe Gas It,' after a broken escalator forced Trump to climb the stairs manually, and when the teleprompter operator couldn't keep up with Trump's 45 minutes of off-script comments.
"It's hard to believe the President of the United States writes things like that and publishes them, but this is where we are."
Trump has been writing and publishing (and saying aloud) such infantile insults and drivel for the whole of his presidency and preceding it. It's hard so many Americans can think this man is anything but an emotionally disturbed seven-year old (in the form of a badly deteriorated old man)! Forget about his "political" (sic) positions, his low level of intelligence and his contempt for all others, his unceasing lying, and his decades of criminal behavior should make all intelligent adults loath to ever cast a vote for him. That so many did tells me that the state of many of our fellow citizens is similarly corrupted and stunted.
"Sorry james, disagreement with MAGA doesn't categorize anyone as left-wing or fanatic. I have been a Republican and a conservative for my entire adulthood, and I have been anti-Trump from the first day I read everything I found about him after Rush Limbaugh confused the Hell out of me by embracing the grifter-now-in-charge, who turns out to be a known NY gangster."
Well said, Gadfly. I grew up in a Republican home, and I voted for Ford and Reagan in the first two presidential elections I was old enough to vote. By the time of Reagan's second run, I had wised up and I have never voted for any Republican for the presidency since. I voted for a few Dem candidates, (Mondale, Dukakis, and Clinton--not so happy about any of them, but better than the Republicans.) Beginning with Clinton's second run, I began voting for Green Party candidates--protest votes against unsuitable Dems, who have moved more to the right for several decades--which I continued to do for every election until 2024, when I voted (again with misgivings) for Kamala Harris, my pitiful hope to help her win. Any sane person can only see Trump as the worst human being to have been a president and the worst president we have endured in our modern times, if not for the entire history of our Republic.
This lengthy preamble for my brief point: one of my brothers, (both still Republicans) could not bring himself to vote for the wretched Trump back in 2016 or again in 2024. He remains a Republican, but he cannot abide Trump's corruption, his stupidity, his narcissism, his stupidity, his cruelty, his stupidity, his criminality, his disdain for all others but himself, his stupidity, his unceasing lying and grifting and all his other miserable failings...and his stupidity.
Just as only a small portion of self-proclaimed American Christians are actually Christians, only a small number of Republicans have the courage and/or discerning (or mere disgust) to reject the stinking mound of shit that Trump is and was selling and was able to sell.*
*(Unless, as some indications indicate, his "win" in 2024 was fake, rigged, a con job.)
I think Biden trying to persuade social media companies to self sensor re covid is different. He didn’t threaten government action if they didn’t do what he wanted.
It's difficult to believe there are people amongst us who are this fucking stupid. But there ya go.
Gadfly and Cook calling themselves Republicans is not a joke, folks. Remember in 2008 when right-leaning websites and comment sections were suddenly full of "people" saying crap like: "I've always been a Republican and never voted for a Democrat in my life, but gee whiz this Obama guy, he's special..." It's a tried and true tactic out of the Communist Party playbook. It's how they take over organizations that would normally have nothing to do with leftist scum, it's how the Teamsters union turned Comintern in the 40's. It's bullshit. Hey shitheads, you've been showing your filthy asses for years here, we know what you are. Go Fuck Yourselves.
Well, probably not.
Here is the actual quote. I was even nice enough to bold the part you obviously don't understand.
“The Maga gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it
Understand now? Do you need further explanation?
says the commie apologist, how they can keep burning money as far as I care,
Robert Cook said...
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Well said, Gadfly. I grew up in a Republican home,...."
Just like the killer.
We are assured by the left that never happens.
they will try to disown the dallas shooter, jessica tarlov tried it rather clumsily on the Five,
Big surprise, $16M was not enough:
“once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.“
well you keep lying and defaming thats where you end up
Gadfly and Cook calling themselves Republicans is not a joke, folks.
It is. This blog has been around longer than 2008, and they have always been left. But, you are still right. Lonejustice came around not long ago, and he did the same bullshit line, “I was Republican until Trump”. And just the past two weeks, he blamed Republicans for events going back to the 1990s. He wants us to believe that Republicans carried out such attacks, yet he also didn’t care, but when Trump, who was financially backing Democrats in the 90’s, came around, then he had enough. Bullshit.
There was a turning point around 2008. W ignored free markets and bailed out the failed banks. It also became obvious he either knew the IC lied to him about WMD in Iraq or had them lie. But that might have been just W, except McCain came along to double down. Blaming Palin for his loss was a bridge too far for most Republicans. Romney was pathetic. Trump was the first President since Reagan to fight for Republican ideals on the campaign trail and in office.
Howard (9:31am):
The killer's "disciplined MAGA upbringing"?
Apparently I have to repeat what I wrote about this on the Memorial - Live thread:
"MAGA began when Trump came down the escalator to announce his candidacy on June 16, 2015. That's 10 1/4 years ago. The killer is 22. He was already 12 years old, or close to it, before MAGA was born, and lived more than half his life before he or his parents ever heard of MAGA.
"And he probably knew how to shoot by then, too: small-town Utahns start shooting, and hunting, in middle school. He may have already started to get in touch with his non-standard sexuality, or started to despise his parents' beliefs, or both, by then, without any help at all from MAGA.
"By the way, is there any evidence that his parents are MAGA? [Pictures of them wearing the hat, for instance?] Everyone agrees they're conservative Republicans, but they're also Mormons. They may well be the kind of conservative Republicans who find Trump vulgar and only vote for him reluctantly, if at all."
Idiots on Twitter are claiming that the Dallas shooter must have been MAGA, because he only shot illegals. Apparently they assume shooters always hit exactly the targets they're aiming at. Which is obviously stupid: I'm pretty sure the Butler shooter (may his name be cast into oblivion) would much rather have grazed Cory Comperatore's ear and killed Trump dead than what he actually did, which was the other way around.
No blackface?
Just another puss
Tarlov's is looser than any goose's.
We are here with a President writing like that because 44 and 46 were fundamentally transforming America into a Fascist State, but with a unique sidehack - men getting pregnant.
no prof, kimmel used the death of charlie kirk to lie about MAGA and make fun of trump. kimmel said his statements were ill-timed? when is the proper time to promote a falsehood? he said he never meant to blame a specific group for the death of charlie kirk. i dont mind placing blame of the guilty party, but he blamed MAGA for charlie's death, which puts a target on MAGA's back and he NEVER apologized for lying about it.
"Gadfly and Cook calling themselves Republicans is not a joke, folks."
Not reading for comprehension and stating your misunderstanding publicly makes you look stupid. I said I had been a Republican back in the fricking 70s, when I voted for Gerald Ford (1976) and then Ronald Reagan (1980)! After that, I wised up.
Both of my brothers remain registered Republicans, but one of them refused to vote for Trump--2016, 2020, and 2024--as he recognizes Trump is a disaster as a human being and as a person with any position of decision-making and authority, whether in business or government.
I would not enjoy having to explain the First Amendment to Donald Trump. It would be like explaining needlepoint to Godzilla.
In 1, 215 days, Trump is going to launch what will be the most-watched late-night show since Carson.
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