He'll definitely be finding out. You'd think other matters might come up and rank higher, leaving no time to be spent on the relationship between NBC and Seth Meyers. But no. He'll definitely be finding out.
Stray voltage is a term of art in politics, popularized during Barack Obama's presidency by David Plouffe.
The cool thing is that lower-level staff can engage in it on behalf of the President. So in actuality, Trump hasn't spent any time on this and doesn't really give a fuck.
It's designed to get people's eye off the ball, and it works very well on low-IQ and low-engaged people.
Nothing really new here. Trump’s post about Meyers isn’t about comedy or ratings—it’s the same old Trump pattern. He belittles, he threatens, and he hints at retaliation against anyone who doesn’t flatter him. We’ve seen this with judges, prosecutors, journalists, even entire corporations.
Authoritarians throughout history—whether Al Capone in Chicago or Hitler in Germany—never tolerated being mocked. Trump’s telling us plainly: he doesn’t think he should have to, either.
In other important news Trump Blessed the impending Kelce-Swift nuptials: "Well, I wish him a lot of luck," I think he's a great player. I think he's a great guy. And I think that she's a terrific person. So I wish them a lot of luck."
He must be angling for an invitation to the wedding.
…in a world where the Democrats believe their number one priority is ‘better messaging’ perhaps this project deserves a higher priority than you would assign…
I mean, Democrats believed they could drown Trump in lawfare, so perhaps Trump recognizes he can drown Democrats in counter messaging? Can anyone on the left resist responding? I have my doubts…
I miss the small government Republicans that didn't take a 10% in a chip manufacturer and didn't need to "look into" private contract matters. The big government GOP are a bunch of dangerous busybodies. Leave us alone.
Wait until the Bernie/Elizabeth Warren acolytes start buying up American corporations. Wait until the $1000 "Trump Accounts" become the $25,000 AOC accounts. It's insane how the Trumpers just line up time after time for Trump-flavored Marxism. We are so fucked and you useful idiots let it happen. This shit all happened under Trump.
By posing the question online, Trump already puts Meyers in the position of confirming, denying or ignoring. How can Meyers on his show ignore a Trump tweet about himself? How can Meyers mock Trump’s post without disclosing the status of his show at NBC?
In Colorado- the corrupt lying one party rule Dems, along with the corrupt local Democratic hack media - all lie - while they waste our money like water going down a drain. Our Budget is busted - and they all blame Trump. Nothing to do with Trump at all. It's Colorado's budget. Y'all can go f yourselves.
"Trump’s post about Meyers isn’t about comedy or ratings—it’s the same old Trump pattern. He belittles, he threatens, and he hints at retaliation against anyone who doesn’t flatter him."
Disagree. Trump's "pattern" is to point out mainstays of our leftwing entertainment/political culture who have been accorded prestige and influence for a long time and ask if those people really deserve the status they hold. He's the kid yelling about the emperor's having no clothes (except it's usually that the targeted "emperor" has no talent or viewers).
From the very few and very short clips of Seth Meyers; show that I've seen, I did pick up on the "personality of an insecure child," though it was more of an intuition that I couldn't put into words. There was a nervousness and a desire to please in man child Seth. You could see in his SNL days, too.
I'm surprised though, that Trump picked up on that. He must have had some understanding of people to be a good enough negotiator, but I didn't think he would be that able to articulate such insights and intuitions clearly. It's also interesting that he didn't read Seth Meyer's effete, ineffectual, silly manner in a cruder, uglier way.
"Rain Main" is my go-to good example of a film that moviegoers and critics alike claimed to love when it came out, but that nobody has ever watched in the decades since.
He prioritizes shitake and fawning tweets because it is the primary communication for politicians to reach all of their constituents without spending one thin dime. Nothing planned in the middle just a combination of cheerleading and derision.
The media is the message, folks... don't let the banal, trivial and salacious nature fool you. This is part of the strategy to win big in 26.
Trump is actually better at mocking himself than most of the performers who've tried it. He never lets anything go unresponded to or uncommented on. That is a sign of a sensitivity or insecurity, but given that he's had more negative feedback than other presidents, is he really that different from the others? Would Obama or Clinton or Biden really have loved and laughed off the level of abuse that Trump gets? Is limp dishrag Bush Jr. a model to follow? Some people have "Trump Nazi," "Trump racist," or "Trump authoritarian" so planted in their brains that they can't see anything else.
Peachy: “ Come on Trump - dude you won. You beat these guys. You don't need antagonize them anymore”
He does. Just being content with the win didn’t work in 2017 because of all the lawfare, noncompliance, burrowers, GOPe embeds trying to control him, etc.
The only way he can get anything done (let alone stay in office or just stay alive) is to fight them on all fronts, legal, economic, political, cultural, street-fighting, etc. etc.
To do otherwise leaves open a big shining crack in his armor for them.
He has to show them there is no place to hide and no easy way to get to him.
AMDG: “ He must be angling for an invitation to the wedding.”
No, he’s going to invite them to their own wedding. On the WH South Grounds.With Trump as the officiant, using his inherent powers over the DC City Clerk. Or Greta-Green blacksmith style, since he’s a Scottish Presby.
Trump wants the political capital to be the cultural capital, like it is in Europe. But he has a different idea of culture from the current cultural elites. Explains a lot of what he’s doing.
I just love that President Trump takes the time and makes the effort to take a dump on libtards, and the faggy, mopey, muttering replies of the butthurt shitheads of the Democrat Party show just how effective his disdainful treatment of them is. He's showing Americans how to treat libtard assholes. Never stop, Mister President! Never change!
Trump has gotten so much done, so fast, I don't doubt or second-guess his strategy, but it seems like a different approach would be to have shareholders of Comcast ask how it benefits the company to retain Seth Meyers to host a show that loses money.
It is important for Trump to appear to let nothing slide. The mediaswine and TDS nuts focus on trivia, Obrego Garcia, Sandwich Guy, eating pets, etc., to discredit him.
I, for one, believe with absolute certainty that far too many social media posts from celebrities and politicians and high profile business moguls are written by interns.
“ Disagree. Trump's "pattern" is to point out mainstays of our leftwing entertainment/political culture who have been accorded prestige and influence for a long time and ask if those people really deserve the status they hold. He's the kid yelling about the emperor's having no clothes (except it's usually that the targeted "emperor" has no talent or viewers).”
Anyone remember back in the 1970s when Don Rickles made mafia jokes and Joe Colombo and others pressured networks to drop him. Rickles himself toned it down after getting clear “messages.”
I think Trump is taking a breather from important things when he sends out these tweets. It is his way of relaxing. He can't play golf all the time .. even though that infuriates leftists.
Meyers has been in the same gig for over a decade. He’s a year older than Fallon. I get Letterman hanging around to get the Tonight Show when Carson retired because of the age difference. But Meyers is in a dead-end gig.
Anyone remember back in the 1970s when Don Rickles made mafia jokes and Joe Colombo and others pressured networks to drop him. Rickles himself toned it down after getting clear “messages.”
Was Rickles losing money for the networks? Because if he wasn't, if those jokes were landing and the audience loved them and him, then you have an argument there - the networks acted against their financial interests. (IOW, in this case you DO have an argument.)
How could you tell if Trump, or any surrogate of his, were successful in "pressuring" mass media to drop a comedian who is already losing money for them? Unless you consider audience eyeballs to be a form of "pressure" emanating from that fascist Trump administration, dropping an unsuccessful show is a rational act.
Maybe take a look at SNL. How did they lampoon, say, Obama? Was it by making him look like a moron? Was it by making him look like a dictator? Was it by commenting on his undersized genitalia or the oddities that some thought were apparent in his marriage?
Now think again about how Trump is the one demanding that he not be mocked... or else.
Hold your cards everyone, I think we have another BINGO!
Jamie says networks make decisions with ratings in mind — and I agree, they always have. But that’s not the whole picture when we’re talking about someone like Trump.
With Rickles, the jokes were landing fine, but the mafia wasn’t concerned with NBC’s balance sheet. They cared about face, about not looking weak. The “messages” Rickles got weren’t about Nielsen numbers — they were about consequences if he didn’t pull back. That’s a different kind of pressure altogether. Same with Trump. Sure, a network can cut a struggling late-night host for business reasons. But when Trump himself is blasting the host, calling them talentless, and ending with “I’ll definitely be finding out” — that’s not just ratings talk. That’s a signal, and it lands differently coming from someone who has already threatened prosecutors, judges, and corporations for crossing him.
And Jamie’s SNL comparison actually makes the point. Obama got lampooned plenty, but he never demanded it stop, never threatened the network, never suggested consequences. Trump does — and that’s the difference between being the butt of a joke and trying to muzzle the jokers.
"And Jamie’s SNL comparison actually makes the point. Obama got lampooned plenty"
A challenge for you, Ronald- find us the two SNL skits featuring a Barack Obama character that you think most really lampooned Obama rather than the other characters in the skit. I want to see your definition of Obama being lampooned.
And I note for the record that no president had more people deplatformed from their soap boxes than Democrat Joe Biden. I can't think of a single person deplatformed by Donald Trump either through his actions or pressure brought to bear on someone's employer.
Yancey Yancey Yancey. You want to narrow this down into a scavenger hunt for skits that meet your personal threshold of “lampooning.” That’s not the point. Presidents of both parties have been made fun of by late-night hosts and SNL for decades. What they didn’t do is threaten the networks, or dangle consequences for the people doing the lampooning. That’s the difference I’m highlighting.
No Sweetie, here’s the thing with Yancey’s kabitzing: a quick Google search, a “Hey Siri,” or asking Albert Ingles (aka AI) brings you right to this; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurring_Saturday_Night_Live_characters_and_sketches_introduced_2011%E2%80%9312?utm_source=chatgpt.com on recurring Obama sketches. Next stop, YouTube. Easy enough.
But let’s be clear: this isn’t about whether I can play fetch and dig up skits on command. It’s about the difference in reactions. Obama got lampooned, plenty. What he never did was threaten the networks, attack the comedians personally, or hint at retaliation if the jokes kept coming. That’s where Trump is different.
So sure, Yancey doesn’t like the narrative. I get it. But I’m not here to be the fetch boy for rodeo-clown distractions. The bigger point stands.
Donald Trump: In his rantings, he displays no talents, or intelligence, while showing the personality of an insecure child. So why would anyone but the Russians work to extend this dope's time in office?
Jim, it’s amazing how quickly this discussion jumps from a critique of rhetoric to ad hominem attacks. My point isn’t about whether Obama was protected or celebrated — it’s about the difference in how joking or critical commentary is treated.
Obama was lampooned plenty on SNL and other venues, often harshly. He never threatened networks, demanded certain coverage, or implied retribution for jokes.
The argument I’m making is simple: when commentators flirt with authoritarian “solutions,” even with hedges, it normalizes a mindset that history shows can go very wrong. That’s what deserves discussion, not personal insults.
Calling me dishonest won’t change the fact that Trump’s threats land differently than Obama’s lampooning ever did.
An SNL sketch that mocked Obama? You're looking for a unicorn, son.
Yah…Fred Armisen had that one canned bit where he played Obama in like a scat jazz ‘play it cool’ Obama bit. It was immediately lampooned and racist and was never heard from again. I thought Armisen would eventually come up dead…
Trump lives in public. He lives to mouth off and attract attention. It has a cathartic effect. It releases emotions and tensions that would otherwise become pent up. Maybe the interpretations people come up for to explain his weird tweets and truths and the fears and hostility that they have about his personality don't take this into account. Maybe it's less a sign of insanity and more a way of staying sane.
Ronald is succeeding in his mission to make every comment thread boring as shit. Well done Ron! When I see that you have turned the conversation into an endless back and forth with you, I move on to greener pastures. I assume that is your intent, no?
Oh, Ronald, you moron- I actually watched several random SNL skits with Obama produced between 2007 and 2016- none of of the six actually lampooned Obama- all six lampooned the other characters, Chris Matthews in one, Hillary Clinton in one, Tom Cotton, John Boehner, and Mitch McConnell in others- none mocked Obama at all. There may be an SNL skit that mocked Obama, but the first six I looked at didn't. That is why I asked you to direct us to such SNL skits and failed with your wiki link. Again, I ask you to show us such a skit that you think lampoons Obama. I am guessing your reply was your attempt to clear the subject but the link doesn't supply what I asked for (I did look).
Yancey, your sample of six clips doesn’t erase the fact that SNL did parody Obama over the years — from his teleprompter to the healthcare rollout to the “no drama” persona. The point wasn’t that he was skewered as much as Trump, it was that he wasn’t off-limits. Pretending otherwise is revisionism, not reality.
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Musk and Trump both seem to post their own tweets, and find time to post about trivia. They are probably the two busiest people on earth. Strange.
Stray voltage is a term of art in politics, popularized during Barack Obama's presidency by David Plouffe.
The cool thing is that lower-level staff can engage in it on behalf of the President. So in actuality, Trump hasn't spent any time on this and doesn't really give a fuck.
It's designed to get people's eye off the ball, and it works very well on low-IQ and low-engaged people.
That’s our Trump!
Don’t ever change!
The point is to make you think about it.
And he can make the media write about it.
This forgotten show is likely over the moon that Trump thinks they're worth mentioning
NBC is a propaganda mill. They never heard an idea out of Davos that they didn't like.
I chuckled at 'sick rumor.'
Silage. Nom Nom Nom.
If he mentions the topic again, it's on his agenda. If not, it's another Jack Handey Deep Thoughts moment.
Nothing really new here. Trump’s post about Meyers isn’t about comedy or ratings—it’s the same old Trump pattern. He belittles, he threatens, and he hints at retaliation against anyone who doesn’t flatter him. We’ve seen this with judges, prosecutors, journalists, even entire corporations.
Authoritarians throughout history—whether Al Capone in Chicago or Hitler in Germany—never tolerated being mocked. Trump’s telling us plainly: he doesn’t think he should have to, either.
The “rumor” was announced in May.
In other important news Trump Blessed the impending Kelce-Swift nuptials: "Well, I wish him a lot of luck," I think he's a great player. I think he's a great guy. And I think that she's a terrific person. So I wish them a lot of luck."
He must be angling for an invitation to the wedding.
“Musk and Trump both seem to post their own tweets, and find time to post about trivia. They are probably the two busiest people on earth. Strange.”
Always give the most important task to the busiest person.
-Management 101
…in a world where the Democrats believe their number one priority is ‘better messaging’ perhaps this project deserves a higher priority than you would assign…
I'm sure he'll tweet his NCAA bracket next March, just because the networks won't cover it
Here I thought he was strategizing on our movement in the South China Sea.
Dave Begley said...
That’s our Trump!
i think, that the correct term would be:
That Darn Trump!
ala the Disney film: That Darn Cat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Darn_Cat!
I mean, Democrats believed they could drown Trump in lawfare, so perhaps Trump recognizes he can drown Democrats in counter messaging? Can anyone on the left resist responding? I have my doubts…
Trump as Rain Man.
Speaking of Cracker Barrel—Pass the AI slop will you pretty please… with sugar on top.
It is the inverse of the Jeopardy! host assuming his skill with trivial knowledge also makes him more qualified to tell us how Trump is wrong.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1jvbho6/ken_jennings_jeopardy_on_trump/?rdt=45470
Dustin's character is way too articulate for someone with his supposed developmental issues.
I miss the small government Republicans that didn't take a 10% in a chip manufacturer and didn't need to "look into" private contract matters. The big government GOP are a bunch of dangerous busybodies. Leave us alone.
Wait until the Bernie/Elizabeth Warren acolytes start buying up American corporations. Wait until the $1000 "Trump Accounts" become the $25,000 AOC accounts. It's insane how the Trumpers just line up time after time for Trump-flavored Marxism. We are so fucked and you useful idiots let it happen. This shit all happened under Trump.
Come on Trump - dude you won.
You beat these guys.
You don't need antagonize them anymore. You're the PRESDIENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
“He'll definitely be finding out.”
By posing the question online, Trump already puts Meyers in the position of confirming, denying or ignoring. How can Meyers on his show ignore a Trump tweet about himself? How can Meyers mock Trump’s post without disclosing the status of his show at NBC?
Trump’s post itself did all the work.
In Colorado- the corrupt lying one party rule Dems, along with the corrupt local Democratic hack media - all lie - while they waste our money like water going down a drain. Our Budget is busted - and they all blame Trump. Nothing to do with Trump at all. It's Colorado's budget.
Y'all can go f yourselves.
"Trump’s post about Meyers isn’t about comedy or ratings—it’s the same old Trump pattern. He belittles, he threatens, and he hints at retaliation against anyone who doesn’t flatter him."
Disagree. Trump's "pattern" is to point out mainstays of our leftwing entertainment/political culture who have been accorded prestige and influence for a long time and ask if those people really deserve the status they hold. He's the kid yelling about the emperor's having no clothes (except it's usually that the targeted "emperor" has no talent or viewers).
From the very few and very short clips of Seth Meyers; show that I've seen, I did pick up on the "personality of an insecure child," though it was more of an intuition that I couldn't put into words. There was a nervousness and a desire to please in man child Seth. You could see in his SNL days, too.
I'm surprised though, that Trump picked up on that. He must have had some understanding of people to be a good enough negotiator, but I didn't think he would be that able to articulate such insights and intuitions clearly. It's also interesting that he didn't read Seth Meyer's effete, ineffectual, silly manner in a cruder, uglier way.
"Rain Main" is my go-to good example of a film that moviegoers and critics alike claimed to love when it came out, but that nobody has ever watched in the decades since.
He prioritizes shitake and fawning tweets because it is the primary communication for politicians to reach all of their constituents without spending one thin dime. Nothing planned in the middle just a combination of cheerleading and derision.
The media is the message, folks... don't let the banal, trivial and salacious nature fool you. This is part of the strategy to win big in 26.
As someone who hasn’t owned a television since 1999, it seems so utterly quaint to care about who some dying network hires or rehires.
RJW: “ Authoritarians throughout history—whether Obama in Chicago or Merkel in Germany—never tolerated being mocked.”
FIFY.
RR
JSM
Trump is actually better at mocking himself than most of the performers who've tried it. He never lets anything go unresponded to or uncommented on. That is a sign of a sensitivity or insecurity, but given that he's had more negative feedback than other presidents, is he really that different from the others? Would Obama or Clinton or Biden really have loved and laughed off the level of abuse that Trump gets? Is limp dishrag Bush Jr. a model to follow? Some people have "Trump Nazi," "Trump racist," or "Trump authoritarian" so planted in their brains that they can't see anything else.
Peachy: “ Come on Trump - dude you won.
You beat these guys.
You don't need antagonize them anymore”
He does. Just being content with the win didn’t work in 2017 because of all the lawfare, noncompliance, burrowers, GOPe embeds trying to control him, etc.
The only way he can get anything done (let alone stay in office or just stay alive) is to fight them on all fronts, legal, economic, political, cultural, street-fighting, etc. etc.
To do otherwise leaves open a big shining crack in his armor for them.
He has to show them there is no place to hide and no easy way to get to him.
RR
JSM
Trump "prioritizes shitake" (Howard, 8:54pm)? Glad to hear it: those are good mushrooms!
AMDG: “ He must be angling for an invitation to the wedding.”
No, he’s going to invite them to their own wedding. On the WH South Grounds.With Trump as the officiant, using his inherent powers over the DC City Clerk. Or Greta-Green blacksmith style, since he’s a Scottish Presby.
Yuge!
JSM
Arg. Gretna Green. Don’t want to think about a Greta Green wedding! - jsm
Trump wants the political capital to be the cultural capital, like it is in Europe. But he has a different idea of culture from the current cultural elites. Explains a lot of what he’s doing.
RR
JSM
You better be good for goodness sake.
I just love that President Trump takes the time and makes the effort to take a dump on libtards, and the faggy, mopey, muttering replies of the butthurt shitheads of the Democrat Party show just how effective his disdainful treatment of them is. He's showing Americans how to treat libtard assholes.
Never stop, Mister President! Never change!
Trump has gotten so much done, so fast, I don't doubt or second-guess his strategy, but it seems like a different approach would be to have shareholders of Comcast ask how it benefits the company to retain Seth Meyers to host a show that loses money.
No tag for Valeria Golino? I think of her fairly often whenever I am frying an egg.
If I were Seth Meyers, I’d have that framed.
It is important for Trump to appear to let nothing slide. The mediaswine and TDS nuts focus on trivia, Obrego Garcia, Sandwich Guy, eating pets, etc., to discredit him.
“ He's showing Americans how to treat libtard assholes.” And there is this.
I am a big Trump fan, but I wish he'd stop picking these petty fights with inconsequential pipsqueaks.
I, for one, believe with absolute certainty that far too many social media posts from celebrities and politicians and high profile business moguls are written by interns.
Trump is in full FDR mode. He’s got his nose in everything and he’s making himself bigger than life. Much bigger. It’s working.
“ Disagree. Trump's "pattern" is to point out mainstays of our leftwing entertainment/political culture who have been accorded prestige and influence for a long time and ask if those people really deserve the status they hold. He's the kid yelling about the emperor's having no clothes (except it's usually that the targeted "emperor" has no talent or viewers).”
Anyone remember back in the 1970s when Don Rickles made mafia jokes and Joe Colombo and others pressured networks to drop him. Rickles himself toned it down after getting clear “messages.”
I think Trump is taking a breather from important things when he sends out these tweets. It is his way of relaxing. He can't play golf all the time .. even though that infuriates leftists.
Yancey Ward said...
“No tag for Valeria Golino? I think of her fairly often whenever I am frying an egg.”
Oh, yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msdh9XQgKsU
"Trump is in full FDR mode. He’s got his nose in everything and he’s making himself bigger than life. Much bigger. It’s working."
FDR... Mussolini. They loved all loved "industrial policy."🥰
Best "Squirrel!" president ever! Like lasers and cats man, he plays him so easily.
Meyers has been in the same gig for over a decade. He’s a year older than Fallon. I get Letterman hanging around to get the Tonight Show when Carson retired because of the age difference. But Meyers is in a dead-end gig.
If I didn't know better, I'd suspect the President had a piece of Meyer's contract.
Anyone remember back in the 1970s when Don Rickles made mafia jokes and Joe Colombo and others pressured networks to drop him. Rickles himself toned it down after getting clear “messages.”
Was Rickles losing money for the networks? Because if he wasn't, if those jokes were landing and the audience loved them and him, then you have an argument there - the networks acted against their financial interests. (IOW, in this case you DO have an argument.)
How could you tell if Trump, or any surrogate of his, were successful in "pressuring" mass media to drop a comedian who is already losing money for them? Unless you consider audience eyeballs to be a form of "pressure" emanating from that fascist Trump administration, dropping an unsuccessful show is a rational act.
Maybe take a look at SNL. How did they lampoon, say, Obama? Was it by making him look like a moron? Was it by making him look like a dictator? Was it by commenting on his undersized genitalia or the oddities that some thought were apparent in his marriage?
Now think again about how Trump is the one demanding that he not be mocked... or else.
DD - It's your team who love to control the means of production.
Hold your cards everyone, I think we have another BINGO!
Jamie says networks make decisions with ratings in mind — and I agree, they always have. But that’s not the whole picture when we’re talking about someone like Trump.
With Rickles, the jokes were landing fine, but the mafia wasn’t concerned with NBC’s balance sheet. They cared about face, about not looking weak. The “messages” Rickles got weren’t about Nielsen numbers — they were about consequences if he didn’t pull back. That’s a different kind of pressure altogether.
Same with Trump. Sure, a network can cut a struggling late-night host for business reasons. But when Trump himself is blasting the host, calling them talentless, and ending with “I’ll definitely be finding out” — that’s not just ratings talk. That’s a signal, and it lands differently coming from someone who has already threatened prosecutors, judges, and corporations for crossing him.
And Jamie’s SNL comparison actually makes the point. Obama got lampooned plenty, but he never demanded it stop, never threatened the network, never suggested consequences. Trump does — and that’s the difference between being the butt of a joke and trying to muzzle the jokers.
"And Jamie’s SNL comparison actually makes the point. Obama got lampooned plenty"
A challenge for you, Ronald- find us the two SNL skits featuring a Barack Obama character that you think most really lampooned Obama rather than the other characters in the skit. I want to see your definition of Obama being lampooned.
And I note for the record that no president had more people deplatformed from their soap boxes than Democrat Joe Biden. I can't think of a single person deplatformed by Donald Trump either through his actions or pressure brought to bear on someone's employer.
Yancey Yancey Yancey. You want to narrow this down into a scavenger hunt for skits that meet your personal threshold of “lampooning.” That’s not the point. Presidents of both parties have been made fun of by late-night hosts and SNL for decades. What they didn’t do is threaten the networks, or dangle consequences for the people doing the lampooning. That’s the difference I’m highlighting.
No, Ronald, I am asking you to try to support your assertion that Obama was lampooned plenty by SNL. Put up or shut up.
And also give me an example of Trump threatening someone's employer to get them deplatformed- just one will do.
The "personality of an insecure child" is kind of Meyers' shtick, though. His comic persona is being the bratty little brother.
Who cares? I don't. Per his wife's coat.
An SNL sketch that mocked Obama? You're looking for a unicorn, son.
Meyers is not funny. Never has been.
No Sweetie, here’s the thing with Yancey’s kabitzing: a quick Google search, a “Hey Siri,” or asking Albert Ingles (aka AI) brings you right to this; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurring_Saturday_Night_Live_characters_and_sketches_introduced_2011%E2%80%9312?utm_source=chatgpt.com on recurring Obama sketches. Next stop, YouTube. Easy enough.
But let’s be clear: this isn’t about whether I can play fetch and dig up skits on command. It’s about the difference in reactions. Obama got lampooned, plenty. What he never did was threaten the networks, attack the comedians personally, or hint at retaliation if the jokes kept coming. That’s where Trump is different.
So sure, Yancey doesn’t like the narrative. I get it. But I’m not here to be the fetch boy for rodeo-clown distractions. The bigger point stands.
Donald Trump: In his rantings, he displays no talents, or intelligence, while showing the personality of an insecure child. So why would anyone but the Russians work to extend this dope's time in office?
Surviving the Obama Comedy Crisis: A Report From the Front Lines
Obama got lampooned, plenty.
You are just so full of shit. I don't know why anybody bothers to read your crap.
Anybody who DARED to mock President Precious was immediately declared a racist and cast out of polite society.
We lived through his eight years. We saw it firsthand. The halos around his head. School children chanting his name. Stop acting like we didn't.
You are easily the most dishonest poster to ever grace this board. And that's really saying something.
Jim, it’s amazing how quickly this discussion jumps from a critique of rhetoric to ad hominem attacks. My point isn’t about whether Obama was protected or celebrated — it’s about the difference in how joking or critical commentary is treated.
Obama was lampooned plenty on SNL and other venues, often harshly. He never threatened networks, demanded certain coverage, or implied retribution for jokes.
The argument I’m making is simple: when commentators flirt with authoritarian “solutions,” even with hedges, it normalizes a mindset that history shows can go very wrong. That’s what deserves discussion, not personal insults.
Calling me dishonest won’t change the fact that Trump’s threats land differently than Obama’s lampooning ever did.
An SNL sketch that mocked Obama? You're looking for a unicorn, son.
Yah…Fred Armisen had that one canned bit where he played Obama in like a scat jazz ‘play it cool’ Obama bit. It was immediately lampooned and racist and was never heard from again. I thought Armisen would eventually come up dead…
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Trump lives in public. He lives to mouth off and attract attention. It has a cathartic effect. It releases emotions and tensions that would otherwise become pent up. Maybe the interpretations people come up for to explain his weird tweets and truths and the fears and hostility that they have about his personality don't take this into account. Maybe it's less a sign of insanity and more a way of staying sane.
Ronald is succeeding in his mission to make every comment thread boring as shit. Well done Ron! When I see that you have turned the conversation into an endless back and forth with you, I move on to greener pastures. I assume that is your intent, no?
Not my intent at all. But it is nice to know.
"DD - It's your team who love to control the means of production."
Dipshit. I'm not on a "team." I have literally never voted democrat in my life and never will. Derp.
Oh, Ronald, you moron- I actually watched several random SNL skits with Obama produced between 2007 and 2016- none of of the six actually lampooned Obama- all six lampooned the other characters, Chris Matthews in one, Hillary Clinton in one, Tom Cotton, John Boehner, and Mitch McConnell in others- none mocked Obama at all. There may be an SNL skit that mocked Obama, but the first six I looked at didn't. That is why I asked you to direct us to such SNL skits and failed with your wiki link. Again, I ask you to show us such a skit that you think lampoons Obama. I am guessing your reply was your attempt to clear the subject but the link doesn't supply what I asked for (I did look).
Yancey, your sample of six clips doesn’t erase the fact that SNL did parody Obama over the years — from his teleprompter to the healthcare rollout to the “no drama” persona. The point wasn’t that he was skewered as much as Trump, it was that he wasn’t off-limits. Pretending otherwise is revisionism, not reality.
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