Wow. President Trump tells Fox News he hopes his efforts to end wars will bring him closer to Heaven.
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) August 19, 2025
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"I want to get to heaven if possible. I'm hearing I'm not doing well. I hear I'm at the bottom of the totem pole. If I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons."
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Zelensky brought the leaders of several European nations to his meeting with Trump. Why wasn't Putin allowed to bring Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, and Benny Johnson?
In a sea of warmongering brutality and banal oligarchs Trump is the one person in the public arena who gives a crap about the soldiers dying.
There is a reason that Trump is the most popular President in the US Army ranks. Even more than Ron Paul. They could tell.
"I just want to end it. If i can save seven thousand people a week from getting killed, that's pretty good. I want to get to heaven if possible. I'm hearing I'm not doing well. I hear I'm at the bottom of the totem pole. If I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons."
The fact that so many people ,including some here, do not want him to help end the war, is pretty damn disgusting.
Commenters here will spend paragraphs explaining why Trump is failing, or has failed, while pretending ,or believing, they actually want the killing to stop.
As long as Russians and Ukraine people are killed, the left can smile and claim Trump has failed.
We have it upside down. When it come to totem poles, the guy at the bottom is the most important; the guy at the top is least important.
kak - is this a blue cry talking point? sounds really lame. a bit desperate.
He is right. Reconciliation is a divine affair.
Trump, who's never made a big deal about being a Chrsitian, sounds like he's more religious than that phony George Bush. You remember him, Mr. Big Evangelical who was always bombing and killing people.
Kakistocracy said...
Zelensky brought the leaders of several European nations to his meeting with Trump. Why wasn't Putin allowed to bring Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, and Benny Johnson?
Do you even read your posts before you post them? Do you have any idea what point you were trying to make there?
It is really only stupid pieces of shit that still try to make the argument that opponents of US involvement in this war support Putin. You do it because you are too stupid to make a real argument.
If Trump makes peace and settles Biden's war you will look wrong and stupid again. Decent people hope Trump succeeds.
Since Hillary Clinton (D) banked so much secret big bucks from Russian while serving as Obama's Secretary of State -
Perhaps Hillary should learn to interpret Russian and act as Putin's left hand man?
Trump and Reagan seem the only ones since WW II that were outside the establishment concensus on foreign policy. Reagan wasn't against war, but he didn't want anymore Vietnams and he wanted to get rid of nuclear weapons. Tump just seems to be against war in general.
Of course, he's under pressure from the establishment and AIPAC, so he can only resist so much.
RCOCEAN II said...
Trump, who's never made a big deal about being a Chrsitian, sounds like he's more religious than that phony George Bush. You remember him, Mr. Big Evangelical who was always bombing and killing people.
Christians are going to say that good deeds have nothing to do with getting into heaven though.
God, channeling the late great Abraham Lincoln: "I can't spare this man; he fights (for peace)”
Listened to NPR about the meeting, and after they got through with their childish jabber about Zelensky wearing or not wearing a suit, they seemed happy about the meeting. Security Guarantees for Ukraine. Zelensky smiling. European leaders, the adults in the room, told Trump what's what.
Their analysis is always centered on "Is this good for Zelensky?" "Is this good for the Ukraine?".
Never is it "Is this good for the USA?" Or "How do we stop the fighting?". Also missing - any discussion of how Ukraine will win the Goddamn war.
"Christians are going to say that good deeds have nothing to do with getting into heaven though."
Bad deeds don't get you into heaven.
RCOCEAN II said...
Trump and Reagan seem the only ones since WW II that were outside the establishment concensus on foreign policy. Reagan wasn't against war, but he didn't want anymore Vietnams and he wanted to get rid of nuclear weapons. Tump just seems to be against war in general.
Of course, he's under pressure from the establishment and AIPAC, so he can only resist so much.
AIPACs time will come.
What you all are going to have to do is thread the needle between open anti-semitism and assertion of America First principles.
Israel is like any other country. It is right sometimes and it is wrong sometimes.
It is OK to say that both AIPAC and Hamas have got to go.
RCOCEAN II said...
"Christians are going to say that good deeds have nothing to do with getting into heaven though."
Bad deeds don't get you into heaven.
Sin is sin. We all have it intrinsically. The flaws are inherent and can only be washed away with Grace.
That said Trump is doing something truly heroic here.
He is making his detractors look like absolute demons.
Speak softly and carry a B2.
Shape Note Hymn says it all--at the end of life we, "go to meet the deeds we've done". I don't know whether there is a heaven or a hell for that matter--but I do believe that at the end of one's life--assuming you still have cognition, a decent person will do a mental summing up of what he or she has done. Of course if you've got Alzheimers or are Joe Biden in his current state of mental decline, you may miss out on that summing u p.
Trump doesn't do follow up. Is a positive declaration any more meaningful than a negative one? Trump does not deal with reality, he only does TV. What comes next in the real world seems increasingly unconnected to what he says one day or the next.
Until there is a ceasefire nothing will change. Putin is not the least bit interested in stopping the war. He needs a reason to stop and Trump is doing nothing to provide one
“We have it upside down. When it come to totem poles, the guy at the bottom is the most important; the guy at the top is least important.”
Even when Trump thinks he’s the bottom, he’s the top.
I bet nobody is getting to heaven if they would rather see thousands die than see a man stop it who they never met and never will, and just because... Oh hell, I have no idea why anymore. And yes, we all know that you really do prefer the killing to the accepting.
‘Why wasn't Putin allowed to bring Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, and Benny Johnson?’
Because their Russian salaries don’t include travel expenses.
In the 3 hours when Trump and Putin spoke to each other, do you think they talked seriously about religious beliefs?
Is Trump worried about going to heaven? People in their older years do tend to understand their own mortality more.This is refreshing and quite different from when he said previously about asking God for forgiveness.
“When further asked about repentance again by Cooper, Trump said "I think repenting is terrific."
"Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?" asked Trump. "I work hard, I'm an honorable person."
In talking about his Iowa appearance, Trump said, "We were having fun when I said I drink the wine, I eat the cracker, the whole room was laughing."
https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-why-do-i-have-to-repent-or-ask-for-forgiveness-if-i-am-not-making-mistakes-video.html
Ann Althouse said...
In the 3 hours when Trump and Putin spoke to each other, do you think they talked seriously about religious beliefs?
8/19/25, 12:36 PM
Mmhmm. Such a conversation would not be a major scandal if word ever got out, yet its existence would cause mass panic among the neocons. One advantage to speaking in Alaska is that it would be incredibly hard to eavesdrop on President Trump and VVP. Too hard.
“In the 3 hours when Trump and Putin spoke to each other, do you think they talked seriously about religious beliefs?”
Doubtful, but who knows.
"In the 3 hours when Trump and Putin spoke to each other, do you think they talked seriously about religious beliefs?"
Maybe. Putin is a cultured, sophisticated man. Trump seems to have an opinion on everything and is willing to talk about anything. I can tell you with certitude Putin never talked religion with Biden, unless Biden's staff wrote it on his cue cards. And the idea of Hillary talking religion with anyone is laughable.
And McCain? Well, he met Putin and saw K-G-B. But maybe they talked about vodka.
Just WHO is it that would rather see thousands more die than give credit to ANYONE that brings an end to the war? I know no one who feels that way, not a single soul.
"Putin is not the least bit interested in stopping the war."
Sounds like someone who works for the BBC or the Daily telegraph. Like them, this person can mindread Putin. Perhaps you should get in touch with MI6 or the CIA. They have a job for you.
Trump, like water, flows towards the path of least resistance.
Ukraine and the Europeans should think where they want to end up and then try to channel events in that direction. They know where they want to go; Trump doesn't. (Putin knows where he wants to go also. Only the Americans don't -- see Alaska.)
"Least resistance" indicates a ceasefire in place. Let Washington call it a peace. (Putin has demonstrated since 1999 he doesn't do peace; he does expansionist aggression. He is unlikely to change.)
One can also be sure that Putin will ultimately test all and any guarantees. And one can be reasonably sure that if Trump or a Trump-like successor is in place that the US will falter on the guarantees. Therefore, Europe should plan on permanently establishing in Ukraine and in eastern Europe necessary strike and logistic power to deter Russia. All and any American support should be welcome, but Europe must be able to stand on its own or the structure will fail when put to a test.
If a temporary ceasefire is achieved, Russia will work to rebuild and renew its military offensive power. Europe must over-match this effort by increasing its Ukraine-based and eastern Europe deterrence power. So a ceasefire just marks the beginning of what will be a new arms race, not a return to the old cost-free normality.
Only a strong European deterrent force can turn a temporary ceasefire into an enduring cold peace along the ceasefire line. It is what it is.
Take heart. European leadership has never looked so good as it did last Wednesday and yesterday in Washington.
For starters, the people who criticize Trump for even talking to Putin. I guess they could just be stupid, but do you still get to heaven if your evil is stupidity based?
Trump is Methodist, also John Wesley, would probably not recognize his Church, I think the appeal of Orthodox belief has
manifested itself in Russia, the dangers of atheism have been made evident
I'd say his chances are better than Mao's.
"Trump, like water, flows towards the path of least resistance."
Yea, even after the last 10 years, and especially the last couple, someone actually wrote that. What's crazier is they probably believe it.
"Trump does not deal with reality, he only does TV. What comes next in the real world seems increasingly unconnected to what he says one day or the next."
Ho-hum, another meaningless slam against Trump by much-too-frequent commenter Hackistocracy. Get all of these criticisms and smears out of your system now, Hack, because in the years to come, you and your ilk will be too embarrassed by your poor appraisal of Trump to repeat them.
If Trump stopped Putin then he’d deserve and probably get a Nobel peace prize as well as special recognition from Pope Leo XIV for his achievements.
yeah the Minsk accords came with an expiration date,
Putin knows where he’s going, so that gives him a big advantage in negotiating.
"Just WHO is it that would rather see thousands more die than give credit to ANYONE that brings an end to the war?"
So you regret not voting for him?
Criticizing Trump because of how he deals with Putin is not evidence that the critic would rather have thousands more die. Trump is not a deity, he is not holy, he isn’t a king, he is a flawed human just like the rest of us.
I think this sort of accusation comes from a low place in someone’s soul and perhaps they should be asking for forgiveness from God too.
“Only a strong European deterrent force can turn a temporary ceasefire into an enduring cold peace along the ceasefire line. It is what it is.
Take heart. European leadership has never looked so good as it did last Wednesday and yesterday in Washington.”
Wise words, indeed so. It was so good to see those European leaders come to DC on such short notice. It was smart of Trump not to demean or insult them, he needs them as much as they need him, probably more. If Trump does Putin’s bidding, it will be up to Europe and other countries around the world to enact security guarantees to Ukraine.
Mixed messages as usual coming out of The Trump White House just a day after yesterday’s huge conference.
The US seems short on experienced foreign policy experts who can also stand up to the whims of their President.
Bit of an understatement, I appreciate.
there are two concordant factors Putin started amassing troops, about as soon as the barbed wire around the Capital,
also Ukraine arrested the opposition candidate, because of disinformation or some such,
Trump is 100% wrong about good deeds getting you into heaven. But the fact of the matter is that the majority of Christians believe this. That getting into heaven is a matter of being good.
"Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone."
Mark 10:18
In my upbringing in an evangelical church this is what we were taught.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
John 14:6
well Good Deeds, are evidence of faith,
Inga asks "who wants tens of thousands more dead people rather than give Trump credit?" And I recall her words yesterday where she promised she would never, ever give credit to Trump for stopping the way, because it takes both Putin and Ukraine to agree...so Trump will never "act alone" or be "solely responsible" for stopping the war.
So Inga, the answer to your question is you. You would prefer more dead people than give Trump credit, because you have stated you will never give Trump credit for anything, no matter what.
Ann Althouse said, "In the 3 hours when Trump and Putin spoke to each other, do you think they talked seriously about religious beliefs?"
I had an understanding that restoration and liberty of the Russian Orthodox Church to practice freely and without condition in Ukraine has, is, and will continue to be a condition in the negotiations.
The freedom of a religion to operate within a country is a point of negotiation in peace talks, I think that's pretty serious.
Kakistocracy said...
Trump, like water, flows towards the path of least resistance.
You are a truly stupid person for even writing that.
Trying to think of a politician in history that met more resistance and took it on. Maybe Lincoln.
You are just really fucking dumb.
As far as the Trump and religion bit... doesn't anyone recognize the nod towards Job, who was also falsely accused of sinning and berated for not agreeing he was evil when he did nothing wrong? That's a large part of the book of Job is the "friends" trying to get Job to admit he was wrong about being righteous. Surely he must have been a sinner to have "deserved" what Job got! But Job stuck to his guns and was rewarded with a visit from God Himself. His "friends" were not so rewarded.
Now, I am not the judge of Trump, God is. But I do know the left cannot stand him, so he clearly is on the right path somehow. If he's repenting and trying to do good things like save thousands of lives, God will take that into account.
Kakistocracy said...
Mixed messages as usual coming out of The Trump White House just a day after yesterday’s huge conference.
The US seems short on experienced foreign policy experts who can also stand up to the whims of their President.
Bit of an understatement, I appreciate.
It is like watching those stories where the villain is vanquished and starts to spew increasingly stupid and insane garbage as they melt or are drug away by the police.
how he can walk and chew gum is a wonder
Inga said...
Criticizing Trump because of how he deals with Putin is not evidence that the critic would rather have thousands more die. Trump is not a deity, he is not holy, he isn’t a king, he is a flawed human just like the rest of us.
I think this sort of accusation comes from a low place in someone’s soul and perhaps they should be asking for forgiveness from God too.
How many times has Inga called us Putin Puppets? Just yesterday anyone who cited the Russian and Ukrainian Soldiers as the real victims here made you a Putin Puppet.
Today it is hilarious to watch her whine and moan as people point out the obvious that she is a ghoul that wants Trump to fail and wants more people to die.
Cry more Inga. You are a heartless vicious ghoul and everyone hates you.
But you can also know that there is always time to repent and seek grace.
Your problem is that it has to be genuine.
Trump, like water, flows towards the path of least resistance.
Even by your low standards, this is really delusional.
It was one of the dumbest things you have ever written, right up until your last sentence:
Take heart. European leadership has never looked so good as it did last Wednesday and yesterday in Washington.
'hes rolling, like when the Germans bombed pearl harbor,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belshazzar%27s_Feast_%28Rembrandt%29
Shorter judgmental Inga - Trump is doing it wrong.
I agree that European leadership never looked so good, because it looked the way Trump made it look. None of this would have happened if anyone else was elected in November, and that's despite these "leaders" all wishing that never happened. Their "leadership" consists of being dragged to peace by MAGA voters, who not only elected Trump, but made it clear that continued war was not an option.
Reagan brought the foreign policy establishment around to his way of thinking (or in the eyes of some neocons, it was the other way around). Whether Trump can do that, or wants to do that remains to be seen.
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Trump was, I think, Presbyterian, like his Scottish mum. The family attended Norman Vincent Peale's (Dutch) Reformed Marble Collegiate Church in Manhattan. Trump is now a non-denominational Christian.
Used to be everybody had a denomination like crayons in box had a color. Not so much now. Presbyterians and Reformed may still believe that good works don't get one into heaven. Non-denominationals, not so much maybe?
narciso said...
yeah the Minsk accords came with an expiration date,
They had Mingsk I in 2014, Mingsk II in 2015, the Steinmeier formula presented in 2016 which was the last thing on the table.
In 2019 Zelensky as a politician was fighting to accept the framework but he faced internal opposition.
Of course the core issue was the land bridge on the north shore of the Black Sea. Both sides wanted the land and didn't care about the people. The people of Donbas had the unfortunate situation of living on prime strategic real estate.
bagoh20 said...
I agree that European leadership never looked so good, because it looked the way Trump made it look. None of this would have happened if anyone else was elected in November, and that's despite these "leaders" all wishing that never happened. Their "leadership" consists of being dragged to peace by MAGA voters, who not only elected Trump, but made it clear that continued war was not an option.
Even at his best Merz looked like a cunt. Meloni's eye roll is viral atm. She and Macron actually looked good.
Starmer looked like a kid who just got spanked and is already crying about having to watch Reform take over the UK.
People are still asking who that Alex Rutte guy was and why he was there which I find absolutely fantastic. Hopefully he doesn't have a job soon and we can just occupy Europe without having to listen to them whine anymore.
I am not sure about the optics of people showing the backs of their heads to the crowd. Usually when you have a table like that you post people up on both sides and look down the middle. They could have put Trump at the head of the table and had cameras focus on him from that angle.
"well Good Deeds, are evidence of faith"
That is true, but they are not what saves you.
“Cry more Inga. You are a heartless vicious ghoul and everyone hates you.
But you can also know that there is always time to repent and seek grace.”
Why do you think I’m crying? I think you hope I’m crying. Why?
Your arrogance and self reported genius and self reported moral superiority certainly isn’t a Christian trait. There is a tremendous amount of hatred evident in your screeds toward those you consider enemies, you go so far as to say they should be put to death or banished from the US. WHO gives you the moral and legal authority to do such things? Of course you have the right to say such things on the internet.
Do you think you are being directed by God? You are elevating yourself in ways that are unbiblical and un-Christian . Is that part of your delusion? I think you’re a troubled soul, but of course only God knows.
You know what? I will pray for you and your family especially.
Did we get that camel through the eye of the needle?
https://x.com/HansMahncke/status/1957872263380054132
Shorter leftists here and elsewhere: "You evil scumsucking Christians should all burn in a fire, slowly tortured to death, for disagreeing with the left! Also, you MAGAT's are not Christians at all, unlike us peaceloving, tolerant, kind, practically perfect leftists who even the Saints envy because we are so morally great! It's you MAGATs who are the haters and sinners, not us on the left! Now excuse me, I have to go murder a baby and then go to the LGBT gang rape of a kindergartner!"
Thanks for reminding me of the lesson about the eye of the needle, I recall it from my Sunday school days.
“Did we get that camel through the eye of the needle?”
“Humility and Dependence on God:
Some interpretations suggest that the phrase highlights the need for humility and dependence on God, similar to how a camel might need to be unloaded and humbled to pass through a narrow opening.”
Vance 2:43 - Sing it!
The D-bag Hamas loving left - you can all go F yourselves.
that gets real old real fast,
In context from Matthew 19
"23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
Back then, as now, a lot of religious folk believed that success in life was a sign of divine favor. That is why the disciples are "astonished" that the rich might not get into heaven when Jesus tells them it can be an impediment. That's why they are asking about who can get into heaven if even the rich might have problems with doing so. But, notice that Jesus says that with man it is impossible. But with God all things are possible. That's a foreshadowing of Jesus' sacrifice.
With Reagan, the left would not acknowledge that he was a peacemaker, he did use the military sparingly, one might say
Beirut, was a failure of imagination, but he probably thought he could thread the needle there,
they could only see Vietnam in Central America, and this continued even after he left office, in the aftermath of the Cold War, the Frances Fitzgeralds and even Garry Wills didn't get it, not to mention H Bruce Franklin, but then of course he wasn't meant to get it,
The people who buy MSNBC and Adam Schitt's lies - say what?
Lie-buyers.
No one can see inside another person's heart or soul. But when Trump says he doesn't need to repent or seek forgiveness because he doesn't make mistakes, then he truly doesn't understand one of the basic fundamental doctrines of Christianity.
I didn't realize it was Clinton that pushed Ukraine into the Budapest Agreement. It makes sense though. Russia gave the Clinton foundation absurd amounts of cash and it looks like they got their moneys worth.
I wonder how much Obama got for selling Crimea to Russia. We have a pretty good idea of how much Biden got for Donbas. Obama has 5 mansions that we know of. I wonder if he has anything in Crimea.
Lonejustice - got a direct quote?
"Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?" asked Trump. "I work hard, I'm an honorable person."
https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-why-do-i-have-to-repent-or-ask-for-forgiveness-if-i-am-not-making-mistakes-video.html
Clinton was just terrible in so many aways, the nukes for peace project which ended up weakening us, the groveling toward
Arafat, that ended with the Wye River Accords, enabling the CIA training of Al Aqsa brigades in the Intifada,
I'm surprised no one has trotted out Matthew 5:9: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God."
“No one can see inside another person's heart or soul.”
There are several here who see right through you, Skippy.
bonecrusties
Honestly this religious talk is just nonseondary nse. It's rather clear that Trump is pushing the NATO countries to arm Ukraine at their expense, guarantee Ukraine freedom from further Russian aggression with their troops stationed in Ukraine after the deal is done. Trump knows China is going to be a major crises for the US and we can't fight a two front war. Europe can with secondary sanctions can collapse the Russian economy. Putin has to get something for him not to lose his head but not enough to call the talks off. Putin has to take the unpleasant choice ( for him).
Commenters have already mentioned Trump's Calvinism. I am not a Calvinist, but my denomination (Anglicanism) occasionally plays one on TV. The tenets of Calvinism can be encapsulated in the acronym TULIP:
Total depravity of man - we can't get into heaven on our own, no matter what we do.
Unconditional election: God picked out who's going to heaven.
Limited atonement: Jesus's sacrifice is effective only for the unconditionally elect above.
Irresistible grace: If you were unconditionally elected, nothing you do can stop that gift of unearned grace.
Perseverance of the saints: If you were unconditionally elected, you will stay elect.
Trump may have dimly remembered these teachings when he said he didn't need to ask forgiveness for anything - per Calvin, you literally don't if you're elect, and if you're not, a million confessions won't help.
But saying his peace work will put him over the edge into heaven is definitely not Calvinist or any other Christian denomination I can think of. Unless he means it in reverse, like "I must be getting saved, because I'm able to do these works."
Hope some actual Calvinists can weigh in.
RR
JSM
“Did we get that camel through the eye of the needle?”, said Hag as she anticipated an opportunity to teabag a Camelus Dromedarius and add it to her Wall of Shame.
I'm glad Inga and Kakistocracy (sp?) both have blue avatars -- it makes their posts so much easier to skip over.
we were afflicted with insufferable churchmen like wilson at the begining of the century, who sowed so much suffering, not only in his conduct of the great war but after, and Carter at the tail end for similar reasons,
I don't think Calvin really had the nub of it, maybe no one really did, but Paul''s efforts suggest good works are at least part of the formula,
Just out of curiosity, I went back and skimmed through Biden and Putins press conferences at their one and only meeting in June 2021. First, they had separate ones, because Biden didnt want to be upstaged. Second, Biden just rattled off his talking points in 33 minutes and then took prearranged questions from several MSM reporters.
Basically, it was all about Biden acting tough and telling Putin to stop "the human rights abuses and interfering in USA elections" And Biden saying "I told Putin to straighten up and fly right".
This was followed by Putin's 1 hour press conference where he took questions not just from Russian reporters but from hostile USA ones. And explained Russia's position, and expressed a hope the USA-Russia could get along.
The Biden meeting was 3 hours long. The first shorter part was with Putin and and the 2 secretaries of state. The second longer part was with about 12 people. Joey Biden always had someone to hold his hand and make sure he didn't fly off the handle or need to change his depends.
Here's the Althouse post on the Biden putin meeting https://althouse.blogspot.com/2021/06/if-you-ask-me-what-kind-of-person-and.html
BTW, never argue with an athiest or a liberal/leftist about Christianity. Its just dishonest bullshit. They'll blather about the rich man and eye of a needle and and cherry-pick a few other quotes. Of course, they aren't Christians. They support abortion and all kinds of immorality. The left aren't even pacifists. All their outrage against violence or even Genocide is fake. Its all just a matter of "Who/whom" with them.
Mearsheimer vs Syed.
Syed is about as good as it gets for the warmonger side.
He still comes off as a dishonest vicious bloodthirsty coward who wants other people to fight Putin.
Mearsheimer thinks this is all going to fail and Russia is going to grind through Ukraine for the next several years.
“ "I want to get to heaven if possible. I'm hearing I'm not doing well. I hear I'm at the bottom of the totem pole. If I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons."
Troll Level: Grand Visier of the Uncountable Suns.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/9/what-is-the-minsk-agreement-and-why-is-it-relevant-now a reminder
"Inga said...
“Only a strong European deterrent force can turn a temporary ceasefire into an enduring cold peace along the ceasefire line. It is what it is.
Take heart. European leadership has never looked so good as it did last Wednesday and yesterday in Washington.”
Wise words, indeed so. It was so good to see those European leaders come to DC on such short notice"
The Don snaps his fingers....
"Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?" asked Trump. "I work hard, I'm an honorable person."
Cool - In terms of his polticking - he's right.
The most vile people are Adam Schitt types who buy Russian Collusion lies.
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1957914441044856949 a reminder
Europe can do WWIII without us.
Christianity is a brutal religious discipline of endless self questioning. It's origins are hidden within the cacophony of "followers" whose multiple agendas spurred schism, heresy, and ultimately, a magisterium of anachronistic doctrine that is crumbling all around us.
Trump's speculations about his immortal prospects in the afterlife are just another weird tangent. They take us nowhere. They mean nothing.
narciso said...
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1957914441044856949 a reminder
It will be fun to watch people claim this is just revenge by Trump.
Schiff signed a notarized affidavit.
He committed blatant mortgage fraud. There are people in jail for this right now.
I think Trump knows that people love the peace and the prosperity but nothing would give us more dopamine than seeing most of congress and the Pentagon go to jail.
I'm starting to think.
No. You aren't.
Rep. Henry Hyde, a great prolifer, had a famous quote about himself and heaven:
"When the time comes as it surely will, when we face that awesome moment, the final judgment, I’ve often thought, as Fulton Sheen wrote, that it is a terrible moment of loneliness. You have no advocates, you are there alone standing before God – and a terror will rip through your soul like nothing you can imagine. But I really think that those in the pro-life movement will not be alone. I think there will be a chorus of voices that have never been heard in this world but are heard beautifully and clearly in the next world – and they will plead for everyone who has been in this movement. They will say to God, ‘Spare him because he loved us,’ – and God will look at you and say not, ‘Did you succeed?’ but ‘Did you try?’ "
Yes, God will not ask if you won, God will ask if you tried.
But Patton God will ask if you gave your life trying.
Without reading other comments - well, his theology is totally wrong. But the impulse is good.
Counterfeit goods are the proof some things are so desirable that they are worth faking, usually in order to defraud someone else. Hence the rise of copycat pseudo Trump talk such as Gavin Newsom attempts. However the real deal in all its magnificence, like the spontaneous heaven comments he makes here, shows how hard it truly is to imitate the Original.
Who had “Trump starts debate on Faith versus Works” on their 2025 Bingo card?
“Christians are going to say that good deeds have nothing to do with getting into heaven though.”
I think that is much too broad. Christians believe many things, which is why there are so many denominations. The issues of free will versus predestination, and the impact of good deeds on salvation are some of the major differences between these denominations. Here, in this thread, we have seen some of this debate. It’s been interesting.
I find it interesting that Trump is less dogmatic here, than many of us, questioning the role of good deeds on salvation. His roots were apparently Calvinist, which is fairly strongly predeterministic. But for me, raised in the same tradition, I find that less compelling. If your fate is predetermined, then why work for salvation?
Something to factor in, is that two of Trump’s three wives are/were Roman Catholic, most notably, his latest, Melania. I am in a similar position. I find that the longer that we are together, the closer our faiths coincide. She has moved towards my view that the fallibility (and sinfulness) of man is inconsistent with Papal Infallibility, clerical and saintly intercession, etc, while her belief in good deeds has rubbed on me. And that may be what was going on here with Trump. Maybe you can’t gain salvation by good deeds alone, but they can’t hurt.
One must be a demon to support the modern day corrupt democratic party.
It would be a bummer if you got to heaven and found out that Hitler and Stalin are in good standing because they changed at the last minute. Seems like a flawed system, but I'm not experienced at designing these things.
The utter loveliness of God is well described by Marilynne Robinson's wonderful book "Reading Genesis". Trump's got hope. We all have. And working for peace and the stopping of the killing in Ukraine is a good thin. Except for war mongers and corrupt sponsors of forever wars.
"It would be a bummer if you got to heaven and found out that Hitler and Stalin are in good standing because they changed at the last minute."
That's a pretty standard objection to Christianity, that it isn't just.
1) All people fall short of God's standard. - Romans 3:23
2) It's not that bad people sneak in, no one qualifies on their own merit
3) Salvation is a gift of grace, not a reward for moral performance - Ephesians 2:8-9
4) But repentance must be real, you need to turn away from sin with remorse and a changed heart
5) If someone "repents" only as a loophole its not real
The parable of the workers in Matthew 20:1-16 addresses this. In short whether your a Christian all of your life or for one hour before you die, you get the same reward.
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