8 अगस्त 2025
"A Bannon-Vance primary would trigger an explosive civil war within Trump's populist movement, pitting its original architect against its institutional inheritor."
Intones The Daily Mail, in "Steve Bannon is secretly plotting a sensational run for president in 2028 ... and he's already knifing his likely rival: 'I created him.'"
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Bannon is delusional.
Daily Mail is jr high mean girls trying to cause unrest…
Bannon is trolling for clicks. Nobody is going to vote for him. And he is not the "original architect" of MAGA.
He would also need to get a haircut.
Well ONE is a politician currently serving in a senior position and doing a fine job and the other is a podcaster. I don't see the GOP primary voters geeking out on the old guy in the bomber jacket. Steve's moment was almost ten years back, and even Trump has moved on with a new team better suited to battling the Swamp.
Bannon's days of influence are over. A Bannon-Vance primary would be a pro-Vance wipe-out.
I don’t want Vance to win. He is from Yale and his wife is the DEI Lawyer for Disney. He went straight into politics.
I prefer someone like Vivek who has actually done something on the outside.
Bannon is delusional.
There's nothing more to say except this: J.D. Vance will have primary rivals. Bannon won't be one of them.
I would prefer if Bannon supported General Flynn myself.
Quaestor said...
Bannon is delusional.
There's nothing more to say except this: J.D. Vance will have primary rivals. Bannon won't be one of them.
It would almost seem like our media is trying to set up a Vance Bannon two way race they know Vance would win.
Why would they do that?
Another slow news day.
Bannon is trolling for clicks. Nobody is going to vote for him. And he is not the "original architect" of MAGA.
Agree 100%. The best thing about the information age is that anyone mildly curious can find video of Donald Trump going back well into the '80s or earlier saying the exact same things about his core positions on the border, international trade, American exceptionalism, foreign relations.
Having done my best to ignore him prior to the Golden Escalator Moment (GEM) I was at first surprised how consistent he is over the decades, and then highly admired him.
Now I think we are witness to one of the greatest peaceful transitions of power in history from big governments to the people and Old Europe to a newly invigorated USA, on the verge of our 250th anniversary. In this context Trump is a continuation of the Wall Coming Down / end to the cold war / dirt on the grave of the UN and one-world types. Klaus and the WEF are crumbling. America and traditional values are thriving and reasserting themselves into the greater culture displacing the rot of progressivism and the farrago of lies that were needed to prop it up.
Steve Bannon should listen to a Peterson podcast about "resentment".
He went straight into politics.
Bullshit. He went straight into the Marines and served honorably. Then he worked in Venture Capital while writing his best-selling memoir. That's more experience than the average pol has with actual life, and his actual life story is far more compelling and like normal Americans than 99% of the other characters in DC.
Forgot the summary above: Trump's vision of America didn't change and I see that as the true heart of the MAGA movement. Trump has always wanted to promote America the way he promotes Trump: full time.
Bannon has five popped collars of intent, as his ship of ambition sinks slowing in the West.
who's this "Steve Bannon" ? are we supposed to know him?
"A Bannon-Vance primary would trigger an explosive civil war within Trump's populist movement,”
When 27 year old news people have nothing to say, they create something.
Bannon is way delusional.
Whenever Bannon opens his mouth he makes miss Andrew Breitbart even more. Bannon is a sorry, scruffy imitation.
Oh brother. No one cares about Steve that much. Except for the media that know longer has him for leaks from this Whit House
I like him better as Svengali or Rasputin or whatever he's supposed to be.
The Daily Mail inadvertantly illustrates how poorly the lefty extremist media understand the American right (and center).
Bannon imagines himself to be Dr. Frankenstein???
They could give him a nice bench on the White House lawn, and a subscription to the Post - to keep him warm.
Achilles, you can't hold going to Yale against him!
Vance also worked in industry (tech) with Peter Thiel, so has worked for a living. I liked the way he took down interviewers in the run up to the election.
Me, let's see who's in the running in 27 before we get too excited about GOP candidates
Bannon running would be too on brand. I've long viewed him as nothing more than a verbose self-promoter. He's brilliant. Of that there's no question. But his cause is him. It seems very clear to me that Steve Bannon has always put Steve Bannon above all else. And yes- I know that he went to jail for his stand on J6 and his refusal to appear before Congress. In my mind, even that was a planned 'self sacrifice' to give him even more cred, even more sway with the MAGA electorate. So that every utterance after that, had to be acknowledged with a wink and a nod, that he is truly a man of the people.
Steve Bannon is best at what he currently does. As a pontificator from the sidelines. He has some great insights, some wacky ones, and can stir people to action when needed. Even when not needed. But as a ruling leader? Yikes. I would not want that in charge of my life.
JD would crush Bannon. But the debates will be fun.
Here's my issue for JD: a federal usury rate on credit cards.
When he was a young Marine, he was ready to buy a used car at a high interest rate. But an older Marine told him to go to Navy Federal. He saved big money.
There is no reason - other than pure greed - that the banks charge well over 20% on credit cards.
Bannon can try. But some of us know what a grifter he is, in detail.
I'm visualizing a Vance-Sweeney '28 ticket. Brains and good jeans, versus, I suppose Madmani (sic) and AOC.
He's amateur hour, and he is a troublemaker for hire.
Bannon appeals to the purist wing of Trump support. He doesn't look pure though. He cultivates a hobo vibe.
I wouldn't be surprised if the falling out between Bannon and Trump was rooted in Trump telling him to shave and take a shower and get his suit pressed. Trump is big on appearances.
How will anybody pay attention to leftist critics of future Republicans after they launched all their nuclear weapons at Trump nonstop for 12 years? What's left to say or do that's not cliché' at this point. Then you add in the problem of AI making everything suspect, and what's a crazy Nazi-acting anti-Nazi fever swap to do next?
Bob Boyd said, "Trump is big on appearances."
Performative Male?
Planetgeo has a brilliant future career as a campaign manager!
I bet the essay's writer ejaculated all over himself writing that bit of fantasy.
RideSpaceMountain said...Performative Male?
Which one, Trump or Bannon?
Most Trump voters, most MAGA voters, are not in any sense Trump cultists.
Bannon is a cultist figure.
Vance not.
Most of us vote Trump for the policies, and the rejection of the left, not the froth.
Bannon maximizes the froth.
The Daily Mail makes up a lot of stuff. Maybe it's written by hallucinating AI.
Bannon has only niche appeal. He won't get too far if he does run.
He's too much like the "Lonely Man" who's let his social skills and hygiene go to hell.
Bannon really is a vile creature.
There is no reason - other than pure greed - that the banks charge well over 20% on credit cards.
Well, there's Joe Biden:
https://www.politico.com/story/2009/05/on-credit-card-reform-wheres-biden-022443
s'opihjerdt said...
“Bannon imagines himself to be Dr. Frankenstein???”
Charles Guiteau would be more accurate. Let us hope he does not take the same path.
tim maguire said...
“Bannon's days of influence are over.”
His appeal is becoming more selective. As long as he stays above “Puppet Show” on the marquee.
Rocco, great Spinal Tap reference! The sequel is coming soon!
RR
JSM
Bob Boyd said, "Which one, Trump or Bannon?"
Per the NYT it's such a new concept I'm really not sure, perhaps both. Bannon definitely leans less male and more Performative Hobo though.
The fact that the red states are frantically trying to re-gerrymander their House voting districts shows how vulnerable they feel on the economy going into the midterm elections next year.
Bannon is a Grifter. Boomer MAGA is a joke
Don't put your pie on the window sill when Bannon's in town.
No it won't. Steve Bannon is a political joke that very few people would ever vote for.
Performative Hobo is one of the popular clown breeds.
I'm being a little hard on Bannon. I don't want to leave the impression I don't respect the man and his mission, I do. He deserves a lot of credit for the ongoing Trump Reformation as I call it.
I don't see him running for President, but what do I know?
It seems to me that if the primary were held today the two finalists would be Vance and Rubio (and I'm really surprised to be saying that). The problem for Vance is that its really difficult for the Vice President to DO anything, and Rubio has been massively outperforming expectations.
Bannon and those supporting him are imagining that the Republican primary will be like that of 2016: a big crowd of annoying, uncharismatic people will no political accomplishments. That will not be the case this time. Probably Ted Cruz will throw his hat into the ring (and get stomped, along with DeSantis and Vivek and Bannon), but the real contest will be between the two highest profiles in the current administration, which is too bad because for the Schadenfreude alone I'd love to see Tulsi Gabbard elected President before Hilary Clinton dies (I also think Gabbard could be very good, but we have to see how she functions as an executive, which is also what I want to know about Vance).
I'm hopeful that Rubio learned a lesson from the self-defenestration of DeSantis and therefore ignores the consultants and runs a "he's great, but I'm even better" campaign (DeSantis could have been VP if he'd ignored the consultants and fired everyone associated with his online supporters).
Trump will not anoint anyone in his administration in advance but will just say how great both/all are (I can't imagine him just keeping his mouth shut during the primaries, which is what he should do).
Because the Republicans tend to like orderly hierarchies and transitions, I expect it will be a Vance / Rubio ticket, but it's very early.
I don't think this is going anywhere. I think Bannon has a cap of 25% or so head-to-head against Vance in the primaries, and that's being generous.
I said much the same about Trump in 2015-2016, and was wrong, but I don't think I am again.
I don't think Bannon is as well-known or popular as he thinks he is.
for the Schadenfreude alone I'd love to see Tulsi Gabbard elected President before Hilary Clinton dies (I also think Gabbard could be very good, but we have to see how she functions as an executive, which is also what I want to know about Vance).
Oh yeah, this for sure. I've been very impressed with her so far. She's capable, fearless, and the zeal of the convert is strong in her.
The fact that the red states are frantically trying to re-gerrymander their House voting districts shows how vulnerable they feel on the economy going into the midterm elections next year.
The midterms are always tough for the party in power, especially when it holds the Presidential/Congressional trifecta. I think the Republicans are in better shape than they have been for the midterms in quite a while, especially when you consider how much the surreptitious taxpayer subsidies for the Democrats have dried up, and how aggressively the Trump administration is going after bloated, inaccurate voter rolls and electoral fraud.
When Democrats bitch about gerrymandering, the only proper response is a horse laugh in their faces. They've long since picked all the low hanging fruit on that tree. I hope Republicans press forward to do it every bit as aggressively, in every place that it's possible. We have a once in a lifetime opportunity to shatter the Democrats at the national level, and turn them into a pitiful regional rump party for the next few decades.
I'm not going to bother to check the archives (nor am I asking anyone to do so) but I'd bet many of the comments on this thread match quite closely to what folks were saying about Trump in 2015 right after he joined the race......folks on the right.
I think Bannon wants to be campaign manager for Ro Khanna in 2028. He's long preached that our elections need to be MagaA vs MagaB and he's often named RK as someone on the D side who can make the case. But there's zero chance RK would hire Bannon. The 2016 party takeover was of the Rs, the Ds are a much more crooked animal.
There is no reason - other than pure greed - that the banks charge well over 20% on credit cards.
I used to think this, but it may instill some fiscal discipline on people with bad credit histories. You'd have to be a complete fool or mentally ill to run a balance. We'll see what happens when T bills get near 20%.
My X feed is full of women crying over their huge student loans at 14-17%. They're too stupid to go to college. And their parents!
Bannon is a legend in his own mind.
I never paid him much attention before and most certainly will not going forward
I see why this is below the Shining post.
sss Bannon is on team D now. Good to know.
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
He went straight into politics.
Bullshit. He went straight into the Marines and served honorably. Then he worked in Venture Capital while writing his best-selling memoir. That's more experience than the average pol has with actual life, and his actual life story is far more compelling and like normal Americans than 99% of the other characters in DC.
He went right into the Marines the same way Desantis became a JAG. He got a job in "Venture Capital" like Romney did. He just spent very short amounts of time doing these things.
Everything he did since enrolling in Yale was meant to build a resume for seeking political office. He made this plan to seek office while at Yale surrounded by people who are virulently anti-American and morally reprehensible.
I wont trust JD Vance until he is in the private sector for at least a decade.
Everything Vance did
Kakistocracy said...
The fact that the red states are frantically trying to re-gerrymander their House voting districts shows how vulnerable they feel on the economy going into the midterm elections next year.
Stupid and wrong as usual.
What you are actually seeing is that Republicans finally acknowledge that Democrats are evil as an organization and that you will cannot fight evil while adhering to principles the other side obviously does not hold.
Democrats are threatening to fight back with more Gerrymandering which is hilarious because there are zero seats for them to gain because they have already done it themselves.
Bannon has no shot at a primary and he knows it. I expect it to come down to Vance and Rubio.
Bob Boyd said...
I'm being a little hard on Bannon. I don't want to leave the impression I don't respect the man and his mission, I do. He deserves a lot of credit for the ongoing Trump Reformation as I call it.
I don't see him running for President, but what do I know?
This is right. Bannon doesn't have the charisma to build a coalition like Trump did.
But he clearly built the framework for the coalition that Trump leads.
The main issue that the Republican Party faces in 2028 is understanding that every grifting dishonest greedy conniving snake desperately wants to inherit what Trump built. Of the 10 or so people that declare for the primary 8 of them are going to be Yale/Harvard trained cyphers like Vance and Desantis and Cruz who have spent their entire lives building a resume to run for office.
The reason Trump is a good executive and actually delivers on his promises is he was a businessman his whole life. He had decades in the private sector. Someone like Rubio who did not plan his political career while at Yale/Harvard would be a distant second choice.
If a Yale/Harvard plant like Vance or Desantis takes the nomination it will be HW Bush II.
Peachy said...
sss Bannon is on team D now. Good to know.
This is just a really stupid thing to say.
Yancey Ward said...
I bet the essay's writer ejaculated all over himself writing that bit of fantasy.
This is also important to say loud and clear.
The 2028 Republican primary is going to be brutal. No President previously elected is going to enter the office with as much political capital as the Republican that wins the primary in 2028. Not even Bush I.
This means that every snake and cockroach is going to come out of the woodwork and all of the oligarch energy and money will be brought to bear. Apps and communication models are being built now and will be test run in 2026.
Wasn't Vance Bannon a character on "Johnny Quest"? (He was the guy who flew the airplane, right?)
That was Race Bannon.
Bannon's response to the Daily Mail article: "Trump 2028"
The vast majority of Trump voters are like me: "Steve who?" OTOH, I know who JD Vance is, and like most Trump voters- highly approve.
Sounds like a liberal daydream. Even if Bannon is planning a run- he's going to need voters. They're not there for him. TBH- I'm not even sure what he's done for anyone or anything.
Have you a "masturbatory fantasy" tag?
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