From "America’s Protein Obsession Is Transforming the Dairy Industry/Whey, the liquid byproduct of cheese making, was once considered waste. Now it is a key ingredient in the protein powders that Ozempic users and weight lifters are downing in ever-greater amounts" (NYT).
As Jesus said, "The first shall be last, and the last shall be first."
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If little Miss Muffet only has curds, she's liable to fall off her tuffet even without a spider beside her.
I'm a former metabolic & exercise scientist with a minor in nutrition from decades ago. I spent alot of the late 90s, 2000s, and some of the early 2010s focused on muscle-building "science".
Protein consumption and muscle building is NOT well understood, besides that the body needs a certain amount of aminos to build. Most guidance around protein consumption is based upon the belief:
- You always want to have plenty
- Protein itself is harder for the body to digest and metabolize, with fewer undesirable metabolic side effects, and therefore more is better than fat or carbohydrates
- We can't accurately measure precise needs, and it's easier to follow generic guidelines, so lets just make the guidelines really high for people looking to gain muscle and be lean or lose fat.
As a result, you see outlandish guidelines like 1g / pound of bodyweight. Or more. Which most of the actual hard science for people working out with even moderate intensity 5 days a week for 60-90 minutes each session including mostly weightlifting says....
Is far, far more than the vast majority require or benefit from.
It truly is an obsession though and the question is always "What's the alternative" and for many people it's easier to consume tons of tons of proteins than to consume complex, high fiber carbs or an equivalent caloric amount of high quality fats.
Blessed are the cheesemakers.
I make my own Greek yogurt and use the whey as a water substitute in cooking. It's full of nutrients I hated just poring down the sink.
cheese, Jesus
That juxtaposition reminds me of the case of the sacred grilled cheese sandwich. In 2004, Florida resident Diana Duyser sold that 10-year-old piece of toast smeared with processed cheese food for $28,000. Some people see Jesus and go all weepy and ecstatic. Others see the Virgin and ask the toast to heal what ails them. I see Marlene Dietrich and wonder why her estate isn't collecting royalties.
"Blessed are the cheesemakers."
I asked Grok to continue your rewrite of The Beatitudes (and to incorporate a discussion I'd started with it about other waste products that were ultimately seen as more valuable than what a process was originally designed to produce):
Blessed are the cheesemakers, for they shall find treasure in the whey, turning the discarded into abundance.
Blessed are the refiners of oil, for they shall inherit the wealth of gasoline, once cast aside as waste.
Blessed are those who toil in the fields, for the meal of their soybeans shall feed nations.
Blessed are the sawyers of wood, for their sawdust shall build new homes and warm the earth.
Blessed are those who mine the earth, for they shall uncover rare treasures in the tailings of their labor.
Blessed are the meek who tend the vats, for they shall distill mercy from the dregs of their work.
Blessed are those who seek the overlooked, for they shall be filled with the riches of the earth’s forgotten gifts.
Blessed are the pure in vision, for they shall see wealth in what others cast aside.
Blessed are those who persevere through scorn, for they shall be called stewards of creation’s hidden bounty.
I screwed the link. I hope my error doesn't propagate.
I tried the protein powder thing for a while (I've worked out heavily 90 minutes/5 days a week for like 30 years) and never found it to make a difference. Creatine is the only thing I've tried that made a very noticeable difference. (Apart from hydrating well and pasta the night before)
Blessed is Google for it doth forgive my foolishness. Sometimes.
I love this story from RFK Jr. about how his maternal grandfather got rich:
"Even though George Skakel never made it past grade school, he devoured books on metallurgy and chemistry, geology and business. Browsing through Business Journal he learned of an exploding worldwide appetite for the pure carbon needed to create aluminum for the burgeoning aviation industry. He knew that carbon could be refined to purity using petroleum coke (petcoke), a waste product of turning oil into gasoline. As with coal fines, the oil industry’s solution for ridding itself of alpine heaps of this refinery waste was a bulldozer and a local river. Grandpa signed ninety-nine-year contracts with Standard Oil and its competitors to purchase all those companies’ petcoke for pennies per ton, gaining a virtual monopoly just as commercial aviation was leaving the runway. Over the next decade, Great Lakes Carbon sold millions of tons of petcoke in the eastern United States as a substitute for coal in domestic heating, and to the electrochemical and metallurgical industries. In 1935, Grandpa and his partners spent $50,000 constructing a giant furnace to refine petcoke in Port Arthur, Texas. They had the notion to sell the purified version themselves, thereby relieving aluminum companies of an extra step in their manufacturing process and enabling the production of aluminum of unrivaled strength. They quickly persuaded Alcoa, Reynolds, Kaiser, and the other major aluminum manufacturers to purchase their product, bragging later that following its construction, their oven paid back its capital costs every six weeks. The Port Arthur plant was among the first such ventures for a company that would soon have manufacturing facilities across the globe. By 1941, Great Lakes Carbon had additional plants in Illinois, California, Wyoming, Texas, and New York, with others in Canada, Portugal, Spain, England, Sweden, and India, and the company was selling millions of tons of refined coke to the aluminum, graphite, and steel industries. During the war years, Great Lakes Carbon also obtained lucrative military contracts for lubricating oils and diatomaceous earth...."
Kennedy Jr., Robert F.. American Values: Lessons I Learned from My Family (pp. 63-64). (Function). Kindle Edition.
Norwegians have used whey for centuries to make brun ost (brown cheese), though technically it's more of a fudge than a cheese since the curdles are not used. So far as I know, Norway is the only country that has traditionally produced a whey based "cheese". It was done out of necessity to make the most out of what marginal farms could produce.
Blessed are the Cheesemakers, for they shall see Grok.
Blessed was the day I no longer had to subsist on protein shakes/formula and redeveloped the ability to eat solid food on a regular basis.
In college, my husband worked for an aggregate company in Sacramento. This company was mining aggregate from old gold mine tailings, so, being no fools, one step in their process of sorting the aggregate by size and strength and so on was gold recovery (this was the part of the facility where my husband worked - a small but tall building, tall because it housed a series of shakers, in the dead center of the compound, surrounded by barbed wire and requiring a special badge to enter).
The company made as much money on the gold that was technically a waste product as they did on all the aggregate they sold.
I make my own yogurt as well using whole grass-fed organic milk. I strain the way out by adding freeze dried mango or strawberry. The liquid way goes into the fruit and leaves the yogurt being thick and Rich. It eliminates a step and as the yogurt remains in the fridge it continues to ferment until the fruit becomes fizzy like pop rocks.
I've been cutting cheese pretty much my whole life and nobody told me the byproduct was worth anything. I've thrown away a fortune. Money into the wind, as it were.
I use it to make homemade protein brownies. They're delicious.
People turned to carbs when there was the health scare over heart disease and cholesterol. Then People turned to protein over the health scare over diabetes Type 2. So, Fat gives you heart disease. Carbs give you diabetes. No doubt people will be coming down with Kidney problems because of the protein.
And then it will back to fats again.
In the old days people couldn't afford to waste anything. They ate the whole pig, even the squeal.
Can't find anything about it right now but in the 80s I was working on a cogeneration project with a company called Obrien Energy. One of their other projects had been a Cheese plant in Corona CA that used whey (as I recall it 40 years later) to run a 25MW diesel.
The diesel ran a generator and the exhaust and radiator heat was used to produce steam for cheese procession.
Whey can also be digested anerobically to make methane (natural gas) that can be used to run a generator or boiler.
It is not waste, it is a resource.
John Henry
Blessed are the refiners of oil, for they shall inherit the wealth of gasoline, once cast aside as waste.
Grok not quite right here. Oil is refined for gasoline. On the other hand, the residue from refining can be used as a substitute for coal (unless you are stupid like Germany). Also, the oil and gas industry on the Upstream used to burn of natural gas from reservoirs produced with the oil, because they had no market. Then they created a market, and now natural gas is as much a primary product as crude oil.
Related to all of this is how market-based economies due better at eliminating unnecessary waste by finding better uses for it. Marxist tend to assume waste will always be waste, and then develop unbending rules to dispose of the waste in manners that are initially just unproductive and most often lead to a worst problem with contaminated sites in the future. For example, the problems we have with nuclear waste today, where we had a solution in the 1950s on how to reduce it while providing power, but instead, we ended up putting it in places as waste that became a bigger problem.
I've long had problems with milk products after they've been exposed to air. Three or four days later, they ruin my digestion. Same thing happened with those big jugs of powdered whey, even when refrigerated, it just took about two weeks. I guess something in the air multiplies in milk protein.
"Norwegians have used whey for centuries to make brun ost (brown cheese), though technically it's more of a fudge than a cheese since the curdles are not used."
In the 1970s, I used to buy a product called Gjetost. I loved it and found it hard to understand as cheese (as opposed to caramel).
Now, I finally understand.
“As Jesus said, "The first shall be last, and the last shall be first."”. Geez now we even have a DEI God, damnit.
gjetost is goat milk cheese, unlike many other cultures, I don’t do goats.
Another example: Henry Ford practically invented the back yard barbecue because he had a ton of waste wood leftover from manufacturing automobiles, turned it into charcoal briquettes, and started selling it through Ford dealerships. The rest, as they say, is history.
"Little Miss Muffet
Sat on a tuffet,
Eating her curds and whey;
There came a big spider,
Who sat down beside her
And frightened Miss Muffet away."
I haven't really noticed an uptick in whey consumption. I remember it was really popular during the weightlifting craze a couple of decades ago, but I thought that it's use had actually tapered off. (Based on seeing more and more containers of whey protein in the bargian bins at the stores.)
People have to be careful with protein. It can destroy your kidneys if you eat too much.
"In the 1970s, I used to buy a product called Gjetost. I loved it and found it hard to understand as cheese (as opposed to caramel)."
Yes, the brown color of the cheese comes from heating the whey in large vats causing the milk sugar in the whey to caramelize. It tastes a bit like dulce de leche which is a caramalized milk flavor popular in South America.
Geitost is made with just the whey from goat's millk. The more common Brunost is made with a combinantion of goat and cow's milk. Every hotel in Norway serves it for breakfast. It's also good on waffles for a snack.
Getting people to eat whey is a classic move to get rid of waste.
The aluminum industry generates huge amounts of Flouride. When they could no longer dump it in rivers, they convinced people that drinking it, as an additive to water supplies, was good for you.
It still goes into the rivers. Just filtered through people first
John Henry
Someone mentioned Ford and charcoal. A guy named king was involved and we still buy kingsford charcoal.
More generally Ford was an absolute fanatic on eliminating waste. His belief was that there is no waste, just unused resources.
His book "today and tomorrow" may be the "greenest" most conservation minded book I e ever read
Jo
Whey was a waste product when it was fed to hogs?
That's quite disrespectful to porcine Americans (of the non-human kind). Maybe it's a waste product now.
I think the quote from Jesus that you're looking for is, “I am the whey and the truth and the life."
People have to be careful with protein. It can destroy your kidneys if you eat too much.
I overheard two guys in the Golds locker room: How do I know when I've had too much protein. I chimed in with: your teeth will fall out.
Blessed are the refiners of oil, for they shall inherit the wealth of gasoline, once cast aside as waste
I think what Grok is referring to is that in the early days of oil refining the object was to obtain kerosene. Gasoline was a by product and burned off as waste as there wasn’t really a good use for until the gasoline internal combustion engine was invented and demand for gasoline skyrocketed.
Brought back great memories. About 1960 when I spent summers on my uncle's farm near Portland, he had mounted a 500 gallon tank on his '47 Studebaker truck to haul free whey from a dairy in town. It was quite a feat to make it over the West hills in first gear coming back to the hog farm. Anyone remember "double clutching?"
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