Matt/Slim was one of the organizers of the event. He couldn't get people to show up, and neither could Colbert. Numbers are numbers. The First Amendment protects your right to speak but it won't assemble an audience for you.
Speaking of a low turnout: "Jay Leno slams late-night hosts for alienating half of viewers by targeting just Trump" (NY Post). Leno, who left "The Tonight Show" 11 years ago, said "Why shoot for just half an audience all the time? You know, why not try to get the whole?... I don’t understand why you would alienate one particular group, you know, or just don’t do it at all.... I’m not saying you have to throw your support or whatever, but just do what’s funny.... Funny is funny. It’s funny when someone who’s not … when you make fun of their side, and they laugh at it, you know, that’s kind of what I do."
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Just vax-shimmy off into the sunset, Colbert. Do it with grace and cling to whatever shred of dignity you may have left. Get lost.
‘We’re With Colbert’
They're with Colbert, but there aren't enough of them to keep his show on the air.
And if you're unironically saying things like "Mango Mussolini" in public, then you're trying too hard.
Jay Leno supports cruel neutrality.
I guess Colbert should take comfort that there is still an ice cream flavor named after him at Ben and Jerry's.
Nobody took away Colberts Freedom of speech. He is an asshole, and the ratings showed that. Business want to make money....not give it away to idiots who spew hate.
I was upset when they cancelled Firefly, but I didn't blame the president for it. What kind of fool goes all conspiratorial over the cancellation of a low-rated TV show, no matter how much he personally liked it?
What are the odds 18 or those 20 people talked about it with their shrink afterwards?
I agree with O’Reilly. Trump has destroyed the Legacy Media. MSNBC and CNN are struggling to survive. The hoaxers didn’t recon on Trump. Everybody, even liberals, now speak of “Fake News.” O’Reilly goes a little farther, saying that the TV era is over. I cut cable over a decade ago.
Nothing proves Trump is taking away the First Amendment more than planning and holding an anti-Trump rally without negative consequences.
Leno misses one point - he was a legitimately funny stand-up comedian who survived by writing and telling his own jokes. The current crop are talling heads pushing out someone else's words, and really have nothing else. Funny is funny, and they are not funny.
Not all of us have had "Freeze Peach" the last thirty years. Some of us aren't allowed on the internet even. Some aren't allowed to have bank accounts. "Mango Mussolini" had a hundred felony charges and was fined nine figures for denying a rape claim he was never charged with.
The First Amendment protects your right to speak but it won't assemble an audience for you.
You need Open Society Foundation gelt for the second part.
"...now Mango Mussolini is trying to take that from us."
Heh. I hadn't heard Mango Mussolini before, but it's kind of amusing. What's not amusing is people's ignorance of the First Amendment. To believe Colbert being cancelled amounts to any type of censorship is mindnumbingly dumb.
Leno forgets that he ridiculed Trump and Republicans with snide, derisive, and nasty stupid slanders when he was running against Hillary. Fuck that big-jawed libtard.
The obvious answer to Leno "I’m not saying you have to throw your support or whatever, but just do what’s funny" is "when people laugh at my team, it's not funny." That's how a lot of people think.
CBS Colbert’s show cost $100 million a year. Only a progressive would call that “free”.
The Mango Mussolini's censorship of Colbert is so severe that he will be on the air for another ten months. I guess this means that Bill Clinton forced Arsenio off the air when it ended in 1994 even though (arguably) the show launched him to the Presidency.
Maybe Republicans can point out that Colbert’s show was essentially an in-kind donation to Democrats by Paramount.
"O’Reilly goes a little farther, saying that the TV era is over. I cut cable over a decade ago."
Writing as one who has begun his third decade without television, neither cable nor over-the-air broadcast, O'Reilly is late to the party.
America is entering a sociological phase that in terms of news dissemination and opinion formation more closely resembles the the 1920s than the 1960s. In 1925, even a minor city of 15 to 20 thousand residents could support two newspapers, a morning paper and an evening paper. Morning papers catered to the professional and managerial classes, men whose business day began at 9 am, leaving the previous hour free for a leisurely breakfast with the morning news delivered to the subscriber by 7am and "put to bed" between midnight and 3 am. However, hourly wage earners started their first shifts at 7 am and quit them at 4 pm. Their daily newspaper worked the second twelve hours, hitting the streets in the late afternoon and put to bed between lunchtime and 3 pm. The post-war economic boom meant that even hourly wages contained disposable income that could be directed by advertising, thus the market opportunities for a working man's press. Larger cities could support several papers in each time category, often distinguished by partisan and sectarian viewpoints. We've returned to an analogous situation through the medium of the internet -- news and opinion pieces tailored for a narrowly-defined audience.
Maybe that's the ultimate goal of bastardising words like "genocide" — a detached and apathetic public, who wont know, or care for the difference between the government jailing a whistleblower and a third rate late-night show cancellation.
Oh, the good old days. When comedians were funny.
If you look at the photo, about a third of the (less than) twenty people were wearing masks. I thought masks now made you a facist?
Looking at that protest gaggle, the nom de guerre “Slim” really narrows the nonironic likelihood of who that might be.
[Shrug]. The time for Leno to have made this case was, unquestionably, over a decade and a few hundred million dollars ago.
I find it difficult to forget that Leno said this back in 2016:
“I think this is the problem with Donald Trump. I don’t think anybody has just ever beaten the crap out of him, so he has this attitude of ‘whatever.’ When you have the crap beat out of you, you learn how to negotiate, you learn how to deal with people, You learn that kindness is the greatest virtue you can have.”
When I heard that I considered that Jay Leno was telling the man who literally wrote the book on negotiating that he needed to get the crap beaten out of him to do what — learn how to do what he’s written a very well-received book on how to do it. And maybe, Jay, you need to have the crap beaten out of you so you can learn how to do comedy?
I'd like to know who Colbert's studio audience is and how many are raising children.
"Slim" will understand the process better when he's doxxed and debanked by Trump. Right? Like he's a priority.
Why are those people hiding their faces? Do they fear a disease or do they fear identification? Why? I'd like to hear their reasoning for the masks. Can you feel their righteous power?
"Mango Mussolini" is funnier than anything Colbert has said in at least a year.
…somewhere between Leno and Colbert the goal of television changed. Before Obama the goal was profitable programming of entertainment and/or news and slowly evolved into infecting viewers with bits created to manipulate minds into supporting Democrats and their policies. It took the destruction those policies inflicted to change hearts and minds. Meanwhile Jay thinks they’re still trying to do comedy…
If you believe the legacy media, America is outraged by the cancellation of Colbert. But reality is reflected in the size of the crowd protesting, in NYC no less. It's almost as if the legacy media is biased and mored interesting in pursuing an agenda than reporting the news.
"...Nothing proves Trump is taking away the First Amendment more than planning and holding an anti-Trump rally without negative consequences...."..and having only 20 people show up. How perfectly apropos, for an unfunny show with failing numbers.
Carson said it the best, when he simply said that it was his business to entertain. Colbert and the rest of the modern propagandists just don't want to acknowledge their audience's judgment: It's not humor, it's instruction. Stop calling it humor.
"tommyesq said...
Leno misses one point - he was a legitimately funny stand-up comedian who survived by writing and telling his own jokes. The current crop are talling heads pushing out someone else's words, and really have nothing else. Funny is funny, and they are not funny."
Leno wrote his own stand-up stuff, but not his tonight show content. He had a staff of writers.
I agree with Leno...which, as any sensible person will tell you, means Leno is absolutely right.
Awesome how Colbert can't draw a crowd without the producers herding them into his studio. Might have something to do with his utter lack of actual talent. A lot of comments have done the angry old man schtick a LOT better then his whiny crap. Here's a little salt for that wound: Trump went out of the TV business at the TOP of his GAME, wimpstick!
Personally I do not believe Colbert's mental health will survive intact until next May, the alleged "end" date for his show. What kind of programming head let's his "talent" twist in the wind for so long? Paramount wants him to quit early so they can cancel the contract.
What's with the masked protestors at a rally to support a TV show?
When a TV show loses $40 million per year, the real question is why wasn't it cancelled sooner? Shareholders have a good reason to be unhappy.
"I don’t understand why you would alienate one particular group" Let's apply the Althouse theorem. Which implies, in this case, that Leno doesn't not understand what he claims not to understand. The point of most MSM shows is to promote The Narrative and Squash the Right. For a good prog, the goal in life is to alienate the particular group of evil righties. Slight problem now is that, for technological and political reasons, that may not be a profitable media strategy anymore.
Colbert accused his employer of bribery. On TV! Three days later, he was terminated, ten months hence, with pay. Pretty mild reaction actually. Try that at your place of employment and see whether your "free speech" rights are similarly curtailed.
How did that show cost a hundred million dollars to produce? What a scam.
And if you're unironically saying things like "Mango Mussolini" in public, then you're trying too hard.
At least they used a dictator other than the toothbrush mustache guy.
The Colbert show was a dog and that dog had to be put down. It sucks for the few people who loved the dog, but let's face it, the dog was a yapper and it stunk.
“Leland said...
Maybe Republicans can point out that Colbert’s show was essentially an in-kind donation to Democrats by Paramount.”
I have mentioned that a few times. Perhaps Paramount sees that money as a poor investment given how Democrats are polling lower than leprosy and STDs right now.
Eva Marie is also right. How can that show possibly cost $100 million a year to produce? They must have larded up the payroll something awful to achieve that number. They have a minimal set, so they only need a few camera operators. They also need a sound guy, a lighting guy, a director, and a handful of writers.
Curious George, understood, but by then he had really honed comedy and comedic delivery in a way that the current posers have not.
My point was really that the current quality of the Colbert show is as good as it gets - he lacks the ability to do stuff that isn't blue meat for the dems.
For me, one of the most telling things was the look on Laura Ingraham’s face and her startled “What?!?” when a guest told her that Colbert’s show took 200 people to produce each night. From that I inferred that the headcount was more than a little excessive.
Maybe Colbert should have ditch the applause jokes and gone for ones that people actually laugh at.
Which raises an interesting question. Is it only liberals that applaud “jokes”?
“The Colbert show was a dog and that dog had to be put down. It sucks for the few people who loved the dog, but let's face it, the dog was a yapper and it stunk.”
Much like man’s best friend, when they resort to consuming their own feces, they gotta go. And Colbert is that mutt.
Democrats are astonished to discover that another point of view exists. They decide it's not necessary.
Congress shall make no law “
It’s not … all lying unfunny aholes will have 100 million dollar propaganda platforms.
CBS altered a horrendously bad Kamala interview to help her and her party.
Colbert is ok with that.
From that I inferred that the headcount was more than a little excessive
I’m curious to learn who those people are, their backgrounds and what their jobs were. I’ve always kind of assumed CBS was a recipient of inflows of leftie political money but perhaps they were a distributor?
The sad part is this is what constitutes a leftwing civics lesson for all the masses of civic illiterates
Mango Mussolini? I'll have to send that on to a long term friend who has acute TDS--but can't come up with anything other than Trumpty Dumpty. But Colbert's problem--and Slim's problem is that neither can draw flies for an audience. If a tree falls in the forest and there's no audience to hear it, did it really fall?
@ Iman
I dated a veterinarian for a while some years ago. She kept an albino boxer named Ike. Ike was subject to spastic fits and was a resolute coprophage. She dosed him with enough anti-coprophagic to stop a horse from eating shit, but Ike fought through it.
As for what, if anything, that has to do with Steven Colbert, well...draw your own conclusions.
Considering how insane the MSM legacy democrat media are behaving re: the Russian hoax- are they all paid hacks or just willing hacks? They certainly are not interested in the truth.
Follow the money.
Progs are scared about an authoritarian government silencing their opinions. So they're leaving for Europe, where authoritarian governments silence people's opinions.
If the network is putting finis to Colbert because of Trump, isn't it also possible that the network was putting him on the air during the Biden Presidency because of Trump. Colbert has been losing money for a long time, but maybe he provided value to the network in other ways. Maybe the Biden Presidency could be counted on to lean in their direction because of Colbert's politics......If totalitarian states wish for the government, the media, and the movie stars and comedians to all stay on message, aren't we that much closer to a totalitarian state when the Democrats hold power......Colbert can be anti-Fascist now that he doesn't hold a Fascist subsidized job.
200 employees at an average salary of $200,000, fully burdened with G&A to $400,000 per year, is $80 million. Add in some union baksheesh and it's $100 million easy.
"But we've always had the First Amendment"
Somebody hasn't been paying attention.
"Colbert’ rally for late-night host is a bust with just 20 protesters"
Now, that's funny!
Firefox suck democratic donkey dick,
They took the general comedy from the late TV shows and replaced it with one sided partisan politics.
It wasn't funny and it was one sided, it is for people who believe their own press releases...I stopped watching.
Half the audience espouses such moral superiority that they can’t stand being laughed at. When I make jokes at the expense of progressive positions, my progressive friends are stunned.
Colbert wasnt funny. And his writers were medicore. So, making fun of Trump voters, pushing Leftwing politics, was the substitue.
If you want to see the difference between funny and not funny, go look up the Grodin-Carson tonight show interview and then compare it to Colbert's interviews.
Peachypeachy = Peachy
Firefox spies - and they can go eat a dick..
"tommyesq said...
Curious George, understood, but by then he had really honed comedy and comedic delivery in a way that the current posers have not.
7/28/25, 8:17 AM
tommyesq said...
My point was really that the current quality of the Colbert show is as good as it gets - he lacks the ability to do stuff that isn't blue meat for the dems."
Yep
Watched "Network" last night to get some perspective on this. Yes, it's a very prescient satire on where television was headed, and some of the speeches have a lot to say now, but it's not a great movie. The relationship between Dunaway and Holden really doesn't work, nor do their characters fifty years on.
100 million to produce - "what a scam,"
Indeed.
What is really going on here? I still suspect USAID money or something like it - is/was being funneled to these all pro-D media outlets.
Hire 200 people to run the show - pay them all handsomely - esp. the top propagandist - Colbert. Show loses big money -but no matter- the "government/tax payer" will cover the bill.
Just look at MSNBC. Joe Scarborough is paid big bucks to be a total hack and a total liar. he probably doesn't even believes most of the crap he sells. "Biden is as sharp as a tack - best Biden ever!"
“200 employees at an average salary of $200,000, fully burdened with G&A to $400,000 per year, is $80 million. Add in some union baksheesh and it's $100 million easy.”
And only 20, or 10% of that number, showed up to protest. You would think that they could have gotten maybe even 20% of the soon-to-be-unemployed Colbert staff to show up at the protest.
"Original Mike said...
"Colbert’ rally for late-night host is a bust with just 20 protesters"
Now, that's funny!"
I wonder how many of those protesters are employed by the show. I can see them complaining about their sweet gig ending.
I love that "one particular group". Yeah, that particular group who put Trump in office by more than 2 million votes.
Centuries ago, a prescient conversation took place after another tremendous battle between comedic barbarians:
"...Conan, what is best in life?..."
"...to cancel your enemies, see them bitching about the 1st Amendment before you, and hear the lamentation of their significant others..."
Why am I supposed to care how much money CBS spends on Colbert? I'm not a shareholder. And I'm not related to the CEO.
The real question is why does the US Government allow CBS (actually whatever big media company owns them) to spread non-stop one-sided DNC propaganda over the public airwaves?
This "cancelling Colbert" equates to destroying the first amendment RANT OF THE WEEK, just continues to show that the democrat party is absolutely nuts. If it were some fringe groups out there ranting about it fine, no problem, but you have their 20+million dollar media partners saying the same thing. They should never be anywhere near power, anywhere.
Peachy--I am also wondering how USAID's former $50 Billion budget plays into this. What corporation pays someone $15 Million to head a show that is costing them $100 Million and losing $40 million? Why aren't their shareholders suing them? Why didn't they just cut the staff down to a skeletal 75 or 100? The coincidence of cancelling the show seems far more likely to be related to USAID cuts than the alleged "bribery" scheme.
"Progs are scared about an authoritarian government silencing their opinions."
Progs are scared that Trump might do what the progs already have done.
Demos-cracy is a "burden". Abort... sequester.
tommyesq said... at 7/28/25, 7:01 AM
“If you look at the photo, about a third of the (less than) twenty people were wearing masks. I thought masks now made you a facist?”
It appears the word had gone out on the left-wing communication channels that COVID is again raging in the streets and the death toll is going to mount. I’ve seen an uptick in outdoor mask wearing among non-Asians in the last couple of weeks, and one elderly lady at my weekly skate session (who’s a bit of a hypochondriac) is freaking out about it and how close she came to dying!!!! She tells us the same thing every week. The admission cost for the session is a lot less than a therapist.
boat Builder - well indeed. The whole thing is really stinky.
When I saw that clip of Jon Stewart dancing around screaming, "Go fuck yourself!" over and over, I lost a lot of respect for him.
No one is jailing Colbert. No one is stopping clobert from speaking.
Jailing people for speech they don't like is what leftist Soviet Democrats do.
I'm hearing story after story today, on the national and local NPR outlets, that an amazing miracle has in fact happened: People everywhere are pledging to support NPR and PBS. Ironically, this is what conservatives have been saying, all along.
So maybe Colbert has a future opportunity to look forward to? Don't know if the other 199 staffers can enjoy the same confidence though.....
@Lazarus, the whole movie can be condensed to a few brilliant passages. Peter Finch's scene, where he comes in from the rain in his pajamas, muttering 'I must make my witness', then goes on his groundbreaking rant, is brilliant. Robert Duvall's argument with Holden, who is trying to protect his mentally ill friend Finch, is brilliant. The events that are anecdotally related by the narrator, of the unfolding absurdity, are very funny. And of course the unsparing shots of studio life are as well. And Holden's wife's scene of anguish won her an Oscar.
But aside from that, yes the movie does have its flaws.
Matt/Slim is correct. Colbert being cancelled is a loss of our First Amendment rights.
See, after Colbert spends the next 10 months being paid to run his mouth, he'll be free to find another job, host a podcast or do any number of other things where he can run his mouth some more. He won't, however, be causing his employer to continue lose upwards to 40 large every year.
If that isn't a blatant violation of the First Amendment, I don't know what is.
“I dated a veterinarian for a while some years ago. She kept an albino boxer named Ike. Ike was subject to spastic fits and was a resolute coprophage. She dosed him with enough anti-coprophagic to stop a horse from eating shit, but Ike fought through it.”
@BobBoyd… it wasn’t ever so much it’s their own excrement and they are eating it… it’s the shit-eating grin when they’re seen doing it. You see that, you know you have a real head case.
So all his viewers showed up, sort of showing why a cancellation is coming.
Trump should give a Rose Garden speech where he says "they call me Mango Mussolini. Well, I'm not Mango Mussolini. I'm Wango Tango Mussolini."
Then Ted Nugent bursts out of the hedge and plays a set.
RR
JSM
Iman: "Ike was subject to spastic fits and was a resolute coprophage."
...outtake from a Ken Burns film.
RR
JSM
The party of Nina Jankowicz and the Disinformation Governance Board has a lot of brass to whine about their First Amendment rights.
...outtake from a Ken Burns film.
Sorry. You're gonna have to explain that one to me.
Trump should give a Rose Garden speech where he says "they call me Mango Mussolini. Well, I'm not Mango Mussolini. I'm Wango Tango Mussolini."
Then Ted Nugent bursts out of the hedge and plays a set.
And after that, Trump announces a new line of Wango Tango Mussolini merchandise and earns $500 million from it.
Boyd: When I read the saga of Ike the dog, I of course thought of Dwight D. Eisenhower. And then thought of the general/prez as a "resolute coprophage." And then thought of a Ken Burns film that suddenly discussed Eisenhower's proclivities, until Burns thought better of it and excised the passage.
They're no good if you have to explain 'em....
RR
JSM
Mango Mussolini would be a great Chris Kattan character.
You have to hear Peter Coyote's voice reading your narrative, while the camera pan/zooms over stills of young DDE, 1916 DDE, DDE with Churchill, etc., and then maybe a still of Mamie holding a bottle of anti-coprophagic.
I am gasping with high-pitched weeping laughter as I write this.
RR
JSM
Walter: "Mango Mussolini would be a great Chris Kattan character."
He did Gay Hitler on Weekend Update back when some historian found some dodgy diaries. Pranced around the stage stiff-arm saluting and yelling "Sprachen Sie Dick!?"
I have not been able to find the bit online.
RR
JSM
@Aggie, thanks for the feedback.
Glad you're enjoying yourself tonite, Mosby. Sometimes I crack myself up too.
To believe Colbert being cancelled amounts to any type of censorship is mindnumbingly dumb.
Those people are the Colbert wheelhouse.
Perhaps he can share Keith Olbermann's blog as a future gig.
The 200 employees seems really high. You would think someone would ask Kimmel and the other late night barking seals how many employees exist on their staffs. I'd take the "under" on an over/under of 100.
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