Hamid Hosseini, a member of the country’s Chamber of Commerce’s energy committee, said, in an telephone interview: “Israel’s attack completely caught the leadership by surprise, especially the killing of the top military figures and nuclear scientists. It also exposed our lack of proper air defense and their ability to bombard our critical sites and military bases with no resistance.”
From the article: "Iran’s senior leaders... never expected Israel to strike before another round of talks that had been scheduled for this coming Sunday in Oman, officials close to Iran’s leadership said on Friday. They dismissed reports that an attack was imminent as Israeli propaganda meant to pressure Iran to make concessions on its nuclear program in those talks. Perhaps because of that complacency, precautions that had been planned were ignored, the officials said."
Why would they concede "complacency"? Perhaps because they didn't really have "precautions" that, if taken, would have helped significantly. Still, I would have expected them to denounce Israel for treachery, especially given the promise of peace talks.
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The promise of peace talks were one sided in what was a trilateral discussion. The only one wanting peace was the US/Trump.
“Where is our air defense?”/“How can Israel come and attack anything it wants, kill our top commanders, and we are incapable of stopping it?”
One of those Hitler in the bunker screaming at his generals videos that writes itself.
“Treachery”. What with them being Jews and all. Or so I seem to read and see on MSNBC and CNN. Think I’ll go fishing today.
Maybe God is on their side.
…when Iranian private text messages are shared with NYT I’m assuming it’s either the Palestinians on their payroll or the DC PR firm running things sharing their Slack channel traffic…
Trump told CNN Dana Bash that he had told Iran they had 60 days to make a deal. Israel attacked on day 61.
It’s been obvious forever that Iran’s air defense was vulnerable at best. More like nonexistent from a practical standpoint.
"Iran’s senior leaders... never expected Israel to strike before another round of talks that had been scheduled for this coming Sunday in Oman, officials close to Iran’s leadership said on Friday. They dismissed reports that an attack was imminent as Israeli propaganda meant to pressure Iran to make concessions on its nuclear program in those talks."
This is a variation of FAFO known as Dick Around Find Out. The US and Israel assumed that Iran was just stalling in the negotiations and so had plans to strike. If you are keeping score this event also significantly raises Trump's credibility and bargaining power with foreign adversaries because it is proof that he is willing to take action. (Yes I know Israel was the one who acted but the US clearly knew about it in advance and likely supported it behind the scenes.)
"Iran’s senior leaders... never expected Israel to strike before another round of talks . . ."
No one expects the Israeli Inquisition.
They're talking this way because playing the victim is gaining them traction in the U.S., which is awash with anti-semitism on our college campuses and the DNC. There was no talk of peace talks by anyone but Trump.
Israel must have wanted the Iranian officials to be able to send private text messages to be shared with the The New York Times or else the phones would have exploded.
Ambassador de Sadesky: The deciding factor was when we learned that your country was working along similar lines, and we were afraid of a doomsday gap.
President Muffley: This is preposterous! I never approved of anything like that!
Ambassador de Sadesky: Our source was The New York Times.
Truly an industrial-grade Candygram.
They never expected it because their past experience was they were dealing with patsies and leftie beta cucks whom it is not necessary to name.
We are living in great times while some shit is getting sorted.
- Krumhorn
Biden’s share of the blame.
From Congressman Brian Mast blog: NOV 22 2023
Biden Handed Over $16 Billion to Iran.
“President Biden agreed to hand over $6 BILLION as a part of a hostage deal with Tehran. Shortly after, Hamas, which receives hundreds of millions of dollars from Iran annually, launched an unprecedented and horrific attack on Israel on October 7th.
But instead of admitting this mistake and finding a way to claw back the money, the Biden Administration doubled down and minced words, saying that the money was not going to Iran.
And that was the lie that was repeated by a Democrat member who said the money is not going into Iran “as we speak” and that “they cannot access the money today.” When I pressured him and asked if the money was going into Iran eventually, he repeated his talking points.
The lesson here should’ve been that handing over billions of dollars to our enemy will only strengthen them and put our allies in harm's way. But President Biden, instead, allowed Iran to access an additional $10 BILLION. That is a total of $16 billion Iran can access…”
Is there joy in cohen-land, missy?
Do you feel confident in madison's air defenses?
Are the cohen boys all ready?
Iran’s senior leaders surely know that 80% of the population are against them. They are spies giving the IDF and Mossad great info.
True, Begley.
From the article:
"Iran’s senior leaders... never expected Israel to strike before another round of talks that had been scheduled for this coming Sunday in Oman, officials close to Iran’s leadership said on Friday.”
Huh. I wonder if in the entire history of human conflict one side has undertaken late actions to increase the leverage it has going into parley. Has this ever happened before in the history of human kind?
Leland said...
The promise of peace talks were one sided in what was a trilateral discussion. The only one wanting peace was the US/Trump.
6/14/25, 6:52 AM
What a stupid statement when it is known that Israel gave Trump two months to negotiate with Iran, not to mention the tolerance which Israel has dealt with the homicidal thugs of Iran. You have to be a stupid Jew-hating schmuck to believe that Israel wanted war.
I know some people are so broken they will never be able to muster a compliment for Trump, but the level of misdirection and coordination with Israel on this Iran attack was brilliant. Trump used his public platforms to lull Iran into complacency while privately coordinating with Israel. Trump and Netanyahu went so far as to meet privately this week to finalize things while publicly both leaking that Trump was urging restraint. Link
That [June 8] was when Pres. Trump diverted APKWS 70mm rocket guidance kits to US forces in the Middle East. Link
There was no talk of peace talks by anyone but Trump.
Iran isn't the Ukraine. There was no talk of peace with Iran period. It's inconceivable that Iran's Revolutionary Islamist government would seriously, sincerely make peace with either Israel or the U.S. Their war against us (ongoing since 1979) is Holy and God-ordered in their eyes. No, what talks were going on were to strip Iran of its nuclear threat. “War” per se would continue.
Farnissi is an apologist for a criminal regime,
Well everything we hear is filtered through the various lenses of propaganda, but even if you add them up and take the average, Iranians have grown sick of 50 years of elderly, vicious leaders intent on re-capturing Mecca for the glory of themselves, mostly. Iran was once a fairly moderate and enlightened place as Islamic states go, according to some of the Iranians I've known, and people that have worked there as expats. Maybe their economy is tottering finally, and it's showing up in their defense capabilities. Maybe they ought to stop using 'Death to (insert hated enemy here)' as their foreign policy.
Ukraine "sneaks" agents into Russia, stations them close to important military bases, then has them launch drones and other short range weapons, with virtual no advance warning, destroying significant parts of Russia's defense capabilities.
Israel "sneaks" agents into Iran, stations them close to important military bases, then has them launch drones and other short range weapons, with virtual no advance warning, destroying significant parts of Iran's defense capabilities.
The USA allows hundreds of thousand Chinese to live, study, work and buy land (some near important military locations) in their country.
No one gets out of China without CCP approval.
then of course, you have tampon tim, who thinks China the victor kiam to Iran, can be a middleman, (they buy most of Iran's oil)
so there is a nice line of communication between Iran and US media. Got it.
"Still, I would have expected them to denounce Israel for treachery, especially given the promise of peace talks."
Have no fear, the newsies will do that for them.
I want the Supreme Theocratic Leader of Iran - in exile.
Removed.
Gone.
Free the People of Iran. Free the women of Iran.
On the left these days - women are not a top priority.. (unless used for their lust for abortion on demand)
The Obama left - lust for power... like the Chi Coms... and Iran's leaders. iron fist in the air.
no we tried that with khomeini who was in Najaf for 15 Years and France for one year,
when Obama was king - he infused Iran with our money - without our permission. (dems love doing that.) Recall pallets of cash - delivered in the dead of night.. to Iran. some BS lie about - 'oh we owe them.'
If Israel can root out the Number one sponsor of Terror - destroy Hamas and force the rats who support Hamas to go die in a fire (looking at you, globalist a-holes) AND rid Iran of the Lilly white (he stays inside a lot - jerking) Islamic Supremacist Ayatollah - a big huge massive win for the People of Iran... Vast improvements to life on earth.
It was a bad day (night) for F-35 critics.
The Decapitators came from inside the house.
Their precaution was scheduling more talks to keep buying time. Complacent precaution.
Stacy McCain has some thoughts…
https://theothermccain.com/2025/06/13/one-standard-deviation-how-israel-targeted-irans-top-air-force-leaders/
"when it is known that Israel gave Trump two months to negotiate with Iran, "
IDK how this is "known", but it does seem likely that's what happened.
Where is our air defense?”
The good news: The man responsible has been relieved of command.
The bad news: It was done by the IDF.
Everyone hates Iran.. including Iranians in Iran.. that is how the air defense was shit... I have no doubt Israel has 100s of spies throughout the Iranian military and civilian environment. They know all the Iranian capabilities.. Every country around Iran hates them to... no one wants them to have nukes. There is a underground rebel group to in Iran Trump wants to finance to rebel against the Iranian regime!!!
And then the dumbass wants to know how Israel did it....
The UN said Iran was in violation of their nuclear agreements on Thursday. Israel bombed them right after that.
We are already in a war with Iran. Trump has clearly taken sides by bragging about the power of US weapons that his administration supplies to Israel and threatening Iran to get back to the negotiating table or face far worse bombing. Trump knew Netanyahu was planning a strike and did not stop it.
So what does Trump do next? Soon the shock and excitement of initial bombing raids will fade as Iran and its terrorist syndicate dig in and strike back. Much like Ukraine, Iranian nationalism and pride will rise and a long war will result. Being outnumbers 90 million to 9m in population, Israel will find itself bogged down in a war it cannot win as easily as pundits now believe. And what will the US do if Iran employs its military and band of terrorists against America? Will he abandon his promises of “America First” and engage in an “endless war” he has allegedly always abhorred? Will he escalate the violence? How well with that play out with his “base” and US allies?
Trump has some thinking to do. And the onus is all on him as he has hired a team of “loyalists” incapable of handling a war. Planning ahead for challenges and contingencies does not appear to be Trump’s strength, as evidenced by his chaotic and poorly executed trade policies and other initiatives. The nation will learn he’s not much better at fighting wars than he is at managing trade or pandemics. Buckle up. This war is not ending soon. It’s only just begun.
is it AI that writes something like "ability to bombed"?
^^ It has been obvious that Israel would drag the US into a conflict with Iran ever since Netanyahu managed to pursuade Trump, at the beginning of his first term, to pull out of the Iranian nuclear Accord which was supported by all the permanent members of the UN Security Council. Israel has been lobbying for this attack for a long time. Netanyahu has never wanted a negociated settlement with Iran.
Now it appears that Trump, who has no deep understanding of the geo-politcal mechanics of the region but a very good appreciation of the commercial opportunities, has been out-played (yet again). This time though he will not be able to withdraw as he has done with Ukraine. If Iran attacks American military bases that will be it.
we have been at war with the Islamic Republic since 1979, their first target, was in 1983, in Beirut, theit first strike was in 1988 against Captain Rogers,
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-tells-reuters-its-unclear-if-iran-still-has-nuclear-program-2025-06-13/
Original Mike said...
"when it is known that Israel gave Trump two months to negotiate with Iran, "
"IDK how this is "known", but it does seem likely that's what happened."
It's "known" because Trump told us the moment it went down, that's how. Now even you know.
6/14/25, 9:14 AM
The Trump administration just figured out why Voice of America, who they want to eliminate, has served us well for many decades. Tough to broadcast messages to opposition groups and citizens in Iran when you fired everyone who speaks the language.
Mullahs miscalculated
Hey Kak--do you think things are going well for the hardline regime in Iran? Better than, say, during the Obama administration? Do you think that Iran became more moderate because of the overtures of the Obama and Biden administrations?
What do you think will happen if Iran attacks American military bases--in Saudi Arabia?
As always, the key question is--what is the end game?
Rising iranian pride and patriotism will lead them to hang the ayatollahs. Israel seems to have complete air supremacy, and has no reason to hit population centers.
@ BoatBuilder: I'm no Trump fan, but this is absurd. Biden's mismanagement of Netanyahu is historic. Obama and Bush weren't that much better.
The Iraq war was excessively costly to the US and a disaster for the Iraqi people, but for Israel it was a stunning success as Iraq has been removed as a serious threat to Israel for decades. I'm sure Netanyahu sees a similar result for Iran as a positive. In fact, Syria and Lebanon as destroyed societies are also a positive, as long as Israel can control the small scale attacks that emanate from them periodically.
Israel seems to believe its security can be enhanced by leaving all its enemies in a devastated, impoverished, and chaotic state. Maybe Israel is right, but hundreds of millions of poor Muslims across a wide swath of the Middle East does not, to me, seem like a recipe for stability and peace in the long term.
The anti-Semites failed to take Trump at his word. FAFO. The next scene on this state will be the reaction of ME immigrants in western Europe and the UK....
No, we're at peace with Iran. There's no declaration of war. And there's no reason why Congress would vote for one. Other than the hostages (45 years ago), and the occassional skrimish in the Gulf, Iran hasn't done a single thing to harm us.
We've supported Israel making war on Iran because Israel just decided Iran can't have nukes. Unlike Pakistan, themselves, or India (and possibly Saudi Arabia). Because Israel doesn't like Iran.
Lets see what Iran does in retaliation. Going by Althouse Comment Board morality "Its ok to kill women and kids by the thousands if someone attacks you first" Iran can wipe out Tel Aviv and it'll be moral and right.
Almost serious question: what happens when heaven runs out of virgins?
Oopsie--some of those Iranian commander are going to be seeing those 72 virgins earlier than planned. What a shame.
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