The NYT reports.
Trump at Truth Social: "I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal. I told them, in the strongest of words, to 'just do it,' but no matter how hard they tried, no matter how close they got, they just couldn’t get it done. I told them it would be much worse than anything they know, anticipated, or were told, that the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the World, BY FAR, and that Israel has a lot of it, with much more to come - And they know how to use it. Certain Iranian hardliner’s spoke bravely, but they didn’t know what was about to happen. They are all DEAD now, and it will only get worse! There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter, with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal, come to an end. Iran must make a deal, before there is nothing left, and save what was once known as the Iranian Empire. No more death, no more destruction, JUST DO IT, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. God Bless You All!"
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WWIII just escalated. And the ME again no less...
Every. Single. Fucking. Time.
Trump has a naive faith in promises. Diplomatic accords are in effect until no longer useful. The Iranian people must oust the theocracy.
Iranian assent to a deal won't stop proxy wars or retaliation.
[The Hog-Nosed snake] is perfectly harmless but [if cornered he puffs himself up and] pretends to be a deadly African Puff Adder. Then he wonders why people kill him. – Will Cuppy _The Great Bustard_
Ultimate good cop, bad cop with Trump playing the good cop.
Beautiful.
Word that 80% of the people in Iran want a different government.
If Harris would have won, Iran would have had the bomb.
Just do it?
We will now hear of Donald Trump’s brazen, illegal and unconstitutional use of trademarked phrases — like an unelected monarch!
Interesting to compare the media's treatment of Israel's surprise attack with its treatment of Ukraine's surprise attack.
I think the American people are pulling for Israel and Ukraine.
The media demonizes Russia and Israel, and thereby portrays Ukraine and Iran as innocents.
Astounding to me that Iran identifies itself and its terror groups as the Axis. That's from the NYT, without any commentary. Like it's normal behavior to be identifying with the bad guys of World War 2.
WWIII just escalated.
Calm down. Iran has been attacking countries around the region for years now. Nobody is happy with them. It isn’t a World War, because they have no support, unless you call the Houthis and Hamas the World. They were even offered a peaceful solution that they flatly rejected. This wasn’t even a surprise attack in the sense that stories were being written days ago talking about something big about to happen in Iran. See Pizza Index above. Most recognize an Iran without nuclear weapons is a safer world.
That’s not to say I’m happy about this. It just isn’t a WWIII event.
What's always surprising is the level of intelligence Israel must possess -- or have access to -- in order to execute these precision strikes. Iranian insiders, tired of the regime, have to be providing the info.
Disagree Leland. This is 4th generation warfare (4GW), and aligned powers are currently at war with each other. Worldwide, and for some time. Just because it doesn't meet preconceived notions of what a 3rd World War was supposed to look like doesn't mean it's not happening.
Nuclear-armed nations are fighting esch other - directly now - nd we're still in early innings.
Israel had to fly over Syria and Iraq to get to Iran. That would not have been possible before, but the mullahs are overextended and the rest of the region is quite happy to have the matter settled.
I'll be happy when the Supreme Islamic supremacist of Iran is dead. Obama will have the sads.
The same people chortling over this, will be shrieking with anger and outrage when "the evil" Iranians strike back and kill some Israelis. In fact, losing the logic of several on this board regarding Gaza, the Iranians can now kill a couple a couple thousand Israeli civilians because "Israel started it".
More seriously, I don't understand why we're supposed to be happy about Israel attacking a foreign country because they've decided said country shouldn't have nuclear weapons.
Pakistan has nukes, India has Nukes, Israel has nukes, and I've been informed by friends in the Government that the Saudis have a few.
So, why shouldn't Iran? I'm hoping China will just give them a couple so we can stop caring about this stupid issue, and having to constantly hear about it.
RCOCEAN II said...
So, why shouldn't Iran? I'm hoping China will just give them a couple so we can stop caring about this stupid issue, and having to constantly hear about it.
6/13/25, 7:33 AM
Pakistan's nukes were financed by the Saudis. So nope.
Russia is not going to help anyone vaporize the millions of "Russians" in Israel.
Korea, Taiwan, definitely Japan. Three reasons China isn't going to give Iran nukes, and you're getting desperate if you think they will.
The second Iraq war and regional conflict ended with a well-placed missile up an Iranian proxy.
Pakistan has nukes, India has Nukes, Israel has nukes, and I've been informed by friends in the Government that the Saudis have a few.
So, why shouldn't Iran?
Well, for one thing, the countries you listed are considered allies by the US and NATO. The Iranian government has declared a jihad against same.
X
"The threat we face right now inside the US is activated Iranian-allied terror cells.
This is where the Democrat "No Border" policy has created huge risks.
Hundreds of thousands of military aged men made it into the country without any encounter with US immigration personnel. We have no idea who they are or where they are.
They can easily access weapons inside the US in an illegal manner.
I 100% expect that we will have attacks inside the US of a similar nature to what Israel and Western European countries suffer. Could start at any time."
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Democrats are a$$ho.
Democratics/obamaists and Israel haters/ Hamas propaganda eaters - stand with the Ayatollahs - the actual white Islamic theocratic supremacists.
X - " Iran's King in Exile speaks:"
"My message to the military, law enforcement, and security forces is clear:
This regime and its corrupt and incompetent leaders do not value your lives or our Iran. Separate yourself from them and join the people."
Put the Nike slogan to good use.
The “government” in Iran is toast. Revolution or retribution. I hope the people of Iran choose wisely.
Taking out Hamas emboldened Israel to take out its benefactor. Netanyahu must’ve perceived this attack on Iran ever since October 7th happened. Probably before, but the timing hardened after that point in time. Good for them. Free the Iranian people.
Iran has been working on a bomb for 15 years. They've also been trying to obtain weapons-grade material for longer. Israel's Golda Meir basically forced an ultimatum on the United States in '73 during the YK War with 13 or fewer simple unboosted fission implosion weapons made with less than 40kg of material (roughly 3kg of PU per pit), a move that motivated the US to initiate Operation Nickel Grass to save them and replace Israel's massive losses.
The technology to build a simple nuke is relatively easy, it's the getting enough material that's hard. In other words, Iran has a nuclear weapon, likely more than one. Depend upon it.
The Iranian leadership has been FA-ing for decades and they are reaping the FO harvest.
"Put the Nike slogan to good use. " Quick, somebody use AI to put together the Nike swoosh with the nuclear energy symbol.
I’m really struck by the last four sentences.
I'm seeing reports that Israel was able to build a secret drone base inside Iran. When the attack started, the drones came out and struck. Amazing.
So why are the Chinese buying land near US military bases and flying balloons over them? I'm sure it's nothing...
"President Trump warned that further attacks would be 'even more brutal' and redoubled pressure on Iran to reach a new deal to curb its nuclear program...."
Jack Woltz, "And if that goombah tries any rough stuff, you tell him I ain't no band leader! Yeah, I heard that story."
If it is WW3, we should be happy out ally has crippled our adversary and mapped out the tactics China would employ against us before it happens here or Taiwan.
"I'm seeing reports that Israel was able to build a secret drone base inside Iran. When the attack started, the drones came out and struck."
You can't not give Israel credit where it's due. When it comes to warfare, they understand implicitly there are no rules and ingeniously plan as such. I always give them props for that, and most especially because it shows how little help from us they really need.
Nice op Israel. You seem to know what you're doing, so don't ask for help this time.
BTW, I'm constantly astounded by the number of traitors in Iran who will help Israeli spies assassinate people. Of course, the USA is even worse. You could probably find 10 millions Americans who'd do the same thing.
But once israel has attacked a country they're not at war with and assissinated private citizens (scientists) because they just decided to. Somehow there's international Law for the USA and everyone else, and then there's Israel, which can commit war crimes and violate international law without any blowback or even condemnation.
So, its good to know there is no morality or war crimes. Its just might makes right. Gives you a new perspective on Stalin and Hitler - doesn't it?
You can argue that Bush II was wrong to invade Iraq and that we lost significant blood and treasure for no good end. Yeah, okay. Bush's reputation is tarnished. However, Saddam suffered a somewhat harsher fate. That's something the mullahs might want to keep in mind as they pursue their uranium enrichment program. Not likely, but maybe someday someone over there will act in their rational self interest.
gspencer, we all know how that turned out for Jack, eh?
Jack Woltz, "And if that goombah tries any rough stuff, you tell him I ain't no band leader! Yeah, I heard that story."
@Aggie, abracadabra
Might has always effectively made right. Israel understands this because they have no option but to recognize reality. It's not pretty, but you can't wish it away. A nuclear Iran is an Israeli death sentence.
“If Harris would have won, Iran would have had the bomb.”
Iran was Obama’s best buddy in the Middle East.
This is exactly where this all led.
The Iranian Islamist government has regarded itself as being at war—Total War: that is, God-ordered Holy War—with the “Great Satan” (which is to say, the United States of America; Israel is merely the closer-at-hand “Little Satan” in that regard) since 1979.
Pity Alex Padilla. Not only does nobody know who he is, the Israeli strike pushed his stunt for attention off the radar.
I'm thinking this morning of the millions of unvetted individuals Biden let in our country over the last 4 years.
Iranians are in the same position as Ukrainians, when Kiev was overthrown and assaulted its people under the coup regime.
It's too bad Obama and the left helped Iran and the Jew Hate machine. Such a sucky thing to promote.
From ACE:
"Good morning kids. And so it begins — Israel's "Mostly Peaceful" dismantling of Iran's nuclear weapons capability and other key targets that have continually threatened it and the rest of the civilized world thanks mostly to Jimmy Carter and 45 years of feckless inaction and willful blindness. It would not surprise me in the least if the Democrat-inspired and funded rioters in LA started turning their attention to synagogues and the Simon Wiesenthal center, or just random Hassidim strolling along Pico Boulevard today and this evening for Shabbat services. "
More ACE:
"A few things to note, while the action as Rubio states was indeed unilateral on the part of Israel, Rubio confirmed that he and the President were informed by the Israelis well in advance of the strike, which makes sense given yesterday's report of the latter putting our interests in the region on high alert and evacuating some out of the region entirely.
War is indeed a horrible and evil thing, but sometimes it is a necessary evil. Unlike the dark age reptilian savages that the Iranian Mullahs helped unleash on Israel on October 7th – on top of the multi-decade global terror campaign waged against Israelis, Jews and westerners around the globe since 1979, Israel's actions yesterday were entirely defensive in nature and might very well have the welcome effect of helping to collapse an evil regime that has imprisoned and terrorized the Iranian people and at long last liberate them from Islamic oppression that they have longed for. My thoughts and prayers are with the brave men and women of the IDF, the citizenry of the state of Israel and of the Iranian people (some of whom, mostly expat refugees, I have come to know personally over the years and are a good barometer of Iranian sentiment) for their safety and God-willing their long awaited liberation."
Indeed!
I guess they got tired of waiting for Iran's dog-lovers to finally rise up against the government. These things do take time, people.
Ya gotta ask, what did Iran think was going to happen? They've been threatening Israel for years and they're building nuclear weapons and missiles.
Decadent Western Leftists and hamas-koolaid propaganda drinkers think Oct 7th was fake... and that the Jews were in on their own destruction in Nazi Germany. Yes really.
.. Gaza when Hamas literally overthrew Fatah... out the windows. Afghanistan when it was overthrown by the Taliban, under the bus by Biden. Free Tibet! The Uyghurs, too. Egyptians in their Spring. Israel cannot afford to wait for act 2. LA... America is depending on Trump to mitigate its progress.
You also gotta ask, WHY has Iran been threatening Israel all these years? There's one obvious reason; to gin up an external boogy man to justify the regime's claim to power.
But once israel has attacked a country they're not at war with and assissinated private citizens (scientists) because they just decided to. Somehow there's international Law for the USA and everyone else, and then there's Israel, which can commit war crimes and violate international law without any blowback or even condemnation.
The ignorance displayed here is mind-boggling. It is a of he thinks Iran was just minding its own business, not supplying Hamas and Hezbollah (and who knows what other groups) with both money and hardware, and the Israel decided to just randomly start killing Iranians in the streets.
I would also love to see the actual reference on the war crimes statute that is being violated. It smacks of "assault weapons" style rhetoric. An undefined boogeyman that means whatever the speaker wants it to mean by having no established standard.
"But once israel has attacked a country they're not at war with "
Not at war with???? Good grief. Is that Kaka?
Oh, I see, RCOCEAN.
Incredible.
Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggie" while looking for a rock.
Trump kept on saying "nice doggie" to Iran, while Israel got the rock together.
Teamwork at its finest
Iran has engaged in acts of war, like firing missiles, against Israel.
Therefore Israel is at war with Iran
Killing gov't officials, killing civilians involved in weapons or defense programs, all that is totally legitimate behavior during time of war.
Iran thought they were untouchable. I am very happy they have learned they were wrong.
Here's hoping Democrat members of Congress get to make that discover when they violate the law in the belief that THEY are untouchable, that the laws are only for us "little people".
You go mindnumbrobot! Padilla's stunt will prove to be a flash in the pan. Local newspaper had a big story on it here in Los Angeles--and the Los Angeles Times which I no longer read will have a bigger story. But with this Israeli strike, Padilla's story will soon simply be parakeet cage liner. The TDS people here in SoCal are outraged that nobody on the security team recognized California's senior senator. Well the dude was dressed like a mid level accountant on his day off. But you are a fashion fascist if you expect a Senator to dress like one. And "he identified himself". Well Sirhan B Sirhan supposedly said "I'm a kitchen worker" before murdering Bobby Kennedy.
Iran must have known that Israel had infiltrated their ranks with spies after the Haniyeh killing in Tehran last July. It wouldn't surprise me if any of the upper echelon who are not killed in these operations will be under suspicion.
Perhaps because we in the West have almost totally turned our backs on religious beliefs, we have become incapable of recognizing people who have beliefs and act on them. Islam teaches that Jews are subhuman pigs, fit only for extermination. The Shiite branch of the faith believes that death and destruction are good because it will help usher in the golden age. They tell us this all the time but we don’t believe them. Maybe when the mushroom cloud appears over Tel Aviv or Washington we will wake up.
The Iranian regime is Nazi Germany without the German industriousness and intelligence. The rest is there. The same end is required to eliminate the same problem. Hopefully their people will save themselves from a leadership smoldering in hate.
“Who is the voice in the world that can negotiate some type of agreement and hold the moral authority? It might be the Chinese.”
—— Tim “Jazzhands” Walz
++ bagoh20 @1:36PM
Those two things can be true at once, Original Mike. It’s RCOCEAN and it’s caca.
One advantage that the Israelis have is that they have garnered many thousands of Jews from the Muslim states, Jews who are expert in the languages and cultures of their former homes. This enables them to penetrate deep inside those systems and pull off operations like this, right under arrogant Muslim noses.
Apparently Israel smuggled large numbers of pre-programmed explosive drones into Iran over the past year. Once activated, they are completely autonomous attacking pre-programmed targets like apartment bedroom windows. (According to some accounts, anyway)
Earlier this week, before the attacks, my son and I were talking about drone warfare and I was reminded of Daniel Suarez' 2012 novel "Kill Decision" available at Ann's Amazon Portal
It forecast warfare by preprogrammed, autonomous drone swarms. Pretty good novel. I plan to read it again as soon as I finish Second Hand about the second hand industry (thanks to whoever recommended it a couple weeks ago. Very interesting)
I've been having nightmares about the Ukrainian aircraft carrier (a truck full of drones), and then thinking of some of the more imaginative uses in Suarez book and now the Israelis.
How many of the 40mm aliens in the US are skilled drone techs? It does not need many, a thousand or so might be plenty. As you drive around, do you notice empty shipping containers scattered about? Huge piles at warehouses, sure but probably hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, in onsies-twosies used for storage and whatnot or apparently just abandoned.
I wonder how many of these have drones inside waiting the signal.
The family media tells us that the Chinese are buying up property next to military bases to eavesdrop, they say. But there would be nothing unusual about having a few containers scattered about the property. Are they empty?
Or a small factory or warehouse. Shipping containers moving in and out would be perfectly normal. Nobody would ever notice a couple that never left the property.
Drones don't need GPS navigation to navigate to the bedroom window of, say, a state governor or a US senator. Once it knows where it is going, it can fly there by visual observation, like a Waymo of Tesla car.
In WWII, bombing was considered successful if the majority of bombs fell in a 5 mile radius. Now, a drone can attack not just a house but a specific room in the house penetrating through a window.
Stanley Baldwin said, in 1932, "The bomber will always get through" A lot didn't. 50,000 US Aircrew died over Europe. But enough did to turn many German cities into rubble.
The drone won't always get through. But they are cheap, don't risk a crew, and are autonomous. If you launch a couple hundred against a target, odds are good that some will get through and 1 may be all you need.
John Henry
Aggie said...
"Put the Nike slogan to good use. " Quick, somebody use AI to put together the Nike swoosh with the nuclear energy symbol.
You mean like this?
bit.ly/3HACTe5
I call it "David's Slingshot"
No AI needed. I grabbed a couple images via Brave search, copied them into Paint.net (a great, simple, free photoeditor I've used for 25 years) and Roberta es mi titi. Less than 4 minutes.
I posted it in Bluesky.
John Henry
Kill! Kill! Kill!
Did I get it right? Is this what you guys voted for?
I am sure that such attacks on the US are impossible though.
To save the innocent, some people just need killing. It has always been so.
"Weapons of mass destruction!"
"To save the innocent, some people just need killing. It has always been so."
You mean for some people to get what other people have, some people just need killing.
Bagoh20 - indeed.
LOL - I'm actually looking forward to tomorrow's leftist mass temper tantrum. Now look!
LOL - Tampon Terrorist Tim bringz the smartz
LOL - Tampon Terrorist Tim bringz the smartz
The guy that sends out the National Guard to shoot citizens on their front porch thinks China has the moral authority to broker peace between countries. He doesn't even care about China's human rights record, much less how China is treating its neighbors in the Pacific.
Walz is as much a CCP-symp as Bernie was a USSR-symp.
Biden let Netanyahu destroy his presidency. We’re about to find out whether Trump will let Netanyahu destroy his.
kak - a -phony.
Biden let Soros destroy his presidency.
Biden got help from damn near everyone (including kak"rich"stocracy) in destroying his presidency, except Netanyahu. His legacy he destroyed on his own.
Biden let so many people destroy his presidency Netanyahu's constribution consisted of finding a comfy chair and eating popcorn.
Leland - Indeed.
Bonus: Tampon Terrorist Tim cannot even keep his own Bs straight. But yes - terrorizing his own people with Covid restrictions was TTT acting the little tyrant.
Little bit of good news:
Iranians in Tehran chanting “death to Khamenei” from the balconies and windows tonight as the IDF conducts airstrikes against IRGC and regime sites
Love reading through the comments.
rcocean...what you don't know about this region, this conflict, could fill an arena. No matter.
Israel is doing the dirty work (again) for the Western nations who don't have the will or know-how to do what has to be done. The US is there to help them pull it off. And only under Donald Trump could this get done. The US under Obama and Biden was sending Iran billions and lifting sanctions on them. How'd that peace work out? (Fast forward to Oct. 7).
What Israel is doing is for their own survival. When someone spends 50 years declaring their goal is to eliminate you, and they're working on a nuclear project to get that done, you pay attention. But the recipients of overthrowing the Ayatollah's regime would not just be Israel. It would be all of the Western nations and...importantly, the Iranian people themselves. Or...let's just say, The World.
You will note, Israel is making finely targeted attacks, military targets. They are not blow-torching Tehran like they did Gaza. Its a different battle, different situation. They are not in a war with the Iranian people. But the Mullahs, the Iranian government- THIS is the head of the snake. Gaza (Hamas), Lebanon (Hezbollah) are the proxies. Israel has cut off the proxies legs. They are now working to cut off the head of the snake.
If you don't think that is a positive for you, for your country, for your family, you haven't been paying attention the last 45 years.Or maybe you just never knew the history. Maybe you get your history from Tucker Carlson or Dave Smith. If you're worried that the US is being dragged into another war where our guys will die for some other country...I get that. But Iran has had its hands on the murder of hundreds of Americans over decades. And their chant of Death to America is not nothing. They mean it. And they have their agents here. Many more since Joe Biden's team invited them in.
So they may bring the decision to your backyard yet. Stay tuned. In the meantime, I'm pulling for the Israelis to take care of the dirty work for us. And I don't mind that we're offering a hand. I think it's the least we can do. It's in our own rational self-interest to do so.
John Henry,
You have read The Attack, right?
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