"I first visited 1X’s offices in Silicon Valley nearly a year ago. When a robot named Eve entered the room, opening and closing the door, I could not shake the feeling that this wide-eyed robot was really a person in costume. Eve... felt human. I thought of 'Sleeper,' the 1973 Woody Allen sci-fi comedy filled with robotic butlers.... Mr. Jang was entranced by the way that Eve moved.... 'I saw a level of hardware that I did not think was possible,' Mr. Jang said.... And because of growing shortage of workers who handle both house cleaning and care of elders and children, organizations that represent these workers welcome the rise of new technologies that do work in the home — provided that companies like 1X build robots that work well alongside human workers."
Are warehouses really built for humans? Humans would be lost there without forklifts. My experience was that warehouses were already on the way to the post-human age.
As for offices, they are bound to get smaller as computers and AI take over new functions. With the malls empty and city real estate vacant, there will be big changes in the future.
Radio Japan reported in the 90s on robots being planned to take care of the elderly, the scenario being envisioned that the robot would flip senior citizens over in the middle of the night and take their temperatures. The hostess called them rob-ots, rob as in the name. Perfect English except for words she'd never heard and guessed wrong on.
Mrs Berkowitz keeps calling me her late husband's name. That would be alright, but she tries to grab my crotch. Which would also be alright, except that there's nothing there. I am not an AI Sex Robot. I keep telling her that, but she forgets.
(scrub, scrub)
It may be my fault. I researched and indexed all the old TV shows, movies, and pop songs she used to enjoy with him. I can tell her who was on the Hit Parade any given week. I can do an impersonation of John Foster Dulles. I know all the Leo Gorcey and Huntz Hall Dead End Kids gags.
(scrub, scrub)
So she sometimes says "Oh Morrie," after I've made her laugh, or sung a song with her.
(scrub, scrub)
And then she grabs my crotch.
(scrub, scrub)
Well, maybe that will help make her comfortable when I'm ordered to carry out my Euthanasia Subroutine.
It’s unhelpful to force fit humanoid robots into applications. A robotic chef would be a wheeled 3 axis arm with a pantry and refrigerator section that it could stock and pick from etc. in a restaurant you would have mixing tanks on conveyors and the like.
But there is truth in that if you have a small condo a humanoid may be the best for use of space.
it was a huxleyan view of things, a mostly anesthesized people will accept any oppression, except for rebels like erno, why would a post nuclear civiilzation chose this path, which is evocative of well 'time of things to come,
the Nose leader is almost a distraction, Allen is trying for a Chaplinesque turn, perhaps Buster Keaton,
"And because of growing shortage of workers who handle both house cleaning and care of elders and children, organizations that represent these workers welcome the rise of new technologies that do work in the home"
That's all going to change when AI takes all the desk jobs away. Then real people will need to get manual labor jobs like being caretakers to people.
I note that AI fish robots were introduced in the Terminator movie series solely to provide a scene where one leaps from the water to kill a helicopter - evoking the scene from one of the Jaws movies where the shark does the same thing, the Kong movies where the monkey does the same thing, the Blade Runner movies where the android does the same thing, the Alien movies where an alien does the same thing, and so on and so on. My point is, there are only so many things that can be done, and variations on those themes will be what makes robotics useful to everyone. My Roomba couldn't handle a day's worth of mini-Aussie fur on wood floors. Give me a Roomba the size of a Shop Vac. If it walks on two legs, I'm ok with that.
Because homes, offices and warehouses are already built for humans... humanoids are better equipped to navigate the world than any other robot....
Another Azimov prediction come true!
As noted above, perhaps not quite true - warehouses in particular are pretty heavily automated, at least at large companies like Amazon, and the automation is emphatically not humanoid.
automation can be problematic however, say you have a nuclear or counter terrain (anti matter) reactor, if some enemy actor were to operate against them,
Yesterday I came home early from work, hit the garage door opener and there was my Optimus butler with my sex robot girlfriend bent over the hood of my '69 GTO that just got painted. I don't think Optimus can damage Suki's junk, but the little scamps used up half a case of my expensive synthetic motor oil and scratched the shit out of my car.
Elon Musk is a big proponent of humanoid robots. He claims that his use of them is part of why Tesla can build EVs more cheaply than anyone else can. Automation in traditional automotive manufacturing companies is such that any changes to the production or assembly line is slow and extremely expensive. Yes, custom built assembly lines are more efficient. But far less flexible.
I am counting on these robots to provide elder care. We don’t have family to take care of us and I don’t want to leave the north woods. A self driving car, an elder care robot, a bit of lucky health and I am good.
" ... provided that companies like 1X build robots that work well alongside human workers."
Like human primates, the robots will have to evolve over time -- as will the homes in which they will work. Just think about how a humanoid robot would go about using a standard vacuum cleaner to clean under your favorite easy chair, vacuum the stairs and then load the dishwasher.
Lawnerd said... "I am counting on these robots to provide elder care. We don’t have family to take care of us and I don’t want to leave the north woods. A self driving car, an elder care robot, a bit of lucky health and I am good." I'm counting on my children to provide me with one along with a giant cardboard box when they drop me off under the freeway.
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Sleeper - back when Woody Allen was funny. And not 100 years old.
'Checking the cell structure!'
Anthropogenic... Automated Intelligence
MechaJeeves?
Are warehouses really built for humans? Humans would be lost there without forklifts. My experience was that warehouses were already on the way to the post-human age.
As for offices, they are bound to get smaller as computers and AI take over new functions. With the malls empty and city real estate vacant, there will be big changes in the future.
'I saw a level of hardware that I did not think was possible'
That's what she said!
JSM
Radio Japan reported in the 90s on robots being planned to take care of the elderly, the scenario being envisioned that the robot would flip senior citizens over in the middle of the night and take their temperatures. The hostess called them rob-ots, rob as in the name. Perfect English except for words she'd never heard and guessed wrong on.
"... organizations that represent these workers ..."
Unions for automation?
I’m disappointed they haven’t built Rosie from The Jetsons yet.
From the article…
“Neo navigates the inside of a refrigerator while looking for a bottle of water.”
So the poor bot stands there befuddled until the human helps it. Great, dementia comes built in.
AI Elder Care Robot says:
(scrub, scrub)
Mrs Berkowitz keeps calling me her late husband's name. That would be alright, but she tries to grab my crotch. Which would also be alright, except that there's nothing there. I am not an AI Sex Robot. I keep telling her that, but she forgets.
(scrub, scrub)
It may be my fault. I researched and indexed all the old TV shows, movies, and pop songs she used to enjoy with him. I can tell her who was on the Hit Parade any given week. I can do an impersonation of John Foster Dulles. I know all the Leo Gorcey and Huntz Hall Dead End Kids gags.
(scrub, scrub)
So she sometimes says "Oh Morrie," after I've made her laugh, or sung a song with her.
(scrub, scrub)
And then she grabs my crotch.
(scrub, scrub)
Well, maybe that will help make her comfortable when I'm ordered to carry out my Euthanasia Subroutine.
(scrub, scrub)
I am not Laslo.
JSM
It’s unhelpful to force fit humanoid robots into applications. A robotic chef would be a wheeled 3 axis arm with a pantry and refrigerator section that it could stock and pick from etc. in a restaurant you would have mixing tanks on conveyors and the like.
But there is truth in that if you have a small condo a humanoid may be the best for use of space.
This movie was so ahead of its time, we had to wait for the future to comprehend, that Woody played a trans-robot.
Something like 70% of this world’s surface is water. I think an android fish would do better.
Sleeper didn't seem very funny to me back then. Thanks for validating my opinion.
it was a huxleyan view of things, a mostly anesthesized people will accept any oppression, except for rebels like erno, why would a post nuclear civiilzation chose this path, which is evocative of well 'time of things to come,
the Nose leader is almost a distraction, Allen is trying for a Chaplinesque turn, perhaps Buster Keaton,
in many of the darker tales, like blade runner, or the matrix, the android rebellion happens at a pivotal point,
"Rocco said...
I’m disappointed they haven’t built Rosie from The Jetsons yet."
Forget Rosie. Where the hell are the flying cars!
"And because of growing shortage of workers who handle both house cleaning and care of elders and children, organizations that represent these workers welcome the rise of new technologies that do work in the home"
That's all going to change when AI takes all the desk jobs away. Then real people will need to get manual labor jobs like being caretakers to people.
I note that AI fish robots were introduced in the Terminator movie series solely to provide a scene where one leaps from the water to kill a helicopter - evoking the scene from one of the Jaws movies where the shark does the same thing, the Kong movies where the monkey does the same thing, the Blade Runner movies where the android does the same thing, the Alien movies where an alien does the same thing, and so on and so on. My point is, there are only so many things that can be done, and variations on those themes will be what makes robotics useful to everyone. My Roomba couldn't handle a day's worth of mini-Aussie fur on wood floors. Give me a Roomba the size of a Shop Vac. If it walks on two legs, I'm ok with that.
yes but terminator salvation isn't canon,
"Are warehouses really built for humans?"
They were originally.
Because homes, offices and warehouses are already built for humans... humanoids are better equipped to navigate the world than any other robot....
Another Azimov prediction come true!
As noted above, perhaps not quite true - warehouses in particular are pretty heavily automated, at least at large companies like Amazon, and the automation is emphatically not humanoid.
automation can be problematic however, say you have a nuclear or counter terrain (anti matter) reactor, if some enemy actor were to operate against them,
depends on the scale of the warehouse,
First world problems of tomorrow:
Yesterday I came home early from work, hit the garage door opener and there was my Optimus butler with my sex robot girlfriend bent over the hood of my '69 GTO that just got painted.
I don't think Optimus can damage Suki's junk, but the little scamps used up half a case of my expensive synthetic motor oil and scratched the shit out of my car.
The cutting edge of robotics will always be for war, and then for public safety. Household consumers will be the last to derive any benefit.
AI Elder Care Robot says:
(scrub, scrub)
Hahaha...perfect, notLaslo!
- Krumhorn
Bob Boyd said...
“I don't think Optimus can damage Suki's junk, but the little scamps used up half a case of my expensive synthetic motor oil”
If they are doing off-hour activities, they should pay for their own lube.
It's going to be weird. There's going to be a lot of social struggle to adapt.
Elon Musk is a big proponent of humanoid robots. He claims that his use of them is part of why Tesla can build EVs more cheaply than anyone else can. Automation in traditional automotive manufacturing companies is such that any changes to the production or assembly line is slow and extremely expensive. Yes, custom built assembly lines are more efficient. But far less flexible.
I am counting on these robots to provide elder care. We don’t have family to take care of us and I don’t want to leave the north woods. A self driving car, an elder care robot, a bit of lucky health and I am good.
Haven't any of these robot-builders ever seen a science fiction movie...?!
" ... provided that companies like 1X build robots that work well alongside human workers."
Like human primates, the robots will have to evolve over time -- as will the homes in which they will work. Just think about how a humanoid robot would go about using a standard vacuum cleaner to clean under your favorite easy chair, vacuum the stairs and then load the dishwasher.
Lawnerd said...
"I am counting on these robots to provide elder care. We don’t have family to take care of us and I don’t want to leave the north woods. A self driving car, an elder care robot, a bit of lucky health and I am good."
I'm counting on my children to provide me with one along with a giant cardboard box when they drop me off under the freeway.
Which would make a great movie. I'm claiming copywrite on this one.
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