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— HustleBitch (@HustleBitch_) January 13, 2025
"I was just talking to Josh Green, the governor down in Hawaii, who had some ideas around some land use concerns he has around speculators coming in, buying up properties.
So we're already working with our legal teams to to move those things forward and we'll… pic.twitter.com/ed1Msb8O0v
How do you read that body language (and facial expression)? I'm seeing knowledge that speculators have already outrun him and cannot be stopped. What do you think?
That shoulder action seems to say: Everyone has always found me so cute, so I'll try being extra cute. It's all I've got.
ADDED: If Newsom had controlled his body language, I would have been inclined to think that he was getting ahead of the problem and that talking to the Governor of Hawaii — who dealt with the aftermath of the Maui fires — made a lot of sense.
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Weird. Vague. Super vague.
Gavin is a strange duck. My only hope is that this fire kills his chances at the Presidency.
My god, I just had flashbacks to my interrogation class twenty-five years ago, specifically the part about "physical negation". Supposed to indicate no confidence in what is being said. Like shaking your head "no" while saying "yes". Normally the "wobble" motion is made with the hand, not the shoulders, but seems to work.
Needs a soundtrack - here you go...
Zappa - I'm So Cute
Here’s the question I would have asked, “Governor, do you realize that the lack of water and failure to manage the brush is one of the biggest government fuck ups in history and it is your fault?”
In Hawaii there are a bunch of locals/historical owners who don't have much money (Polynesian ancestry) and who depend on state programs to get a house or keep their houses. For 100+ years they've been manipulated by outside investors and ultra-wealthy people like Larry Ellison of Oracle. Larry owns the island of Lana'i.
In contrast, this Palisades fire hit many ultra wealth residents of L.A. The folks in L.A. were likely the exact same outside interlopers who tried to get deals on the burned down houses in Hawaii.
Newsom is seesawing because he knows the hypocrisy, and sees a leftist circular firing squad in progress.
Shifty.
Looks like excitement to me, but he's a sadist, so...
I saw another segment of the same interview and the strange body language continues. Like a combination of a coked up sign language translator and Tim Walz.
New, absolutely crazy “conspiracy theory.” There has been a long running campaign to transform Palisades into high density, high rise community zoning, instead of the current residential single family zoning. The theory is that the arson torching was deliberate and the culmination of this campaign.
He looks way too happy to be discussing the situation at hand. Not a very measured response.
Classic Frank. Good call Mezz...
Classic Frank. Good call Mezz...
One word: meds
Governor Newsom disputes many accusations of government mismanagement and negligence.
https://gavinnewsom.com/california-fire-facts/
Are these statements factual?
He's a democrat, of course he's not going to let a crisis go to waste! Crises make them so giddy! Seesaw their shoulders giddy!
He's high. It's unconscious behavior.
From the mountains to the sea, California shall be free!
Upzoning would be the intelligent response to this catastrophe, but it probably won't happen. These people are his friends and donors.
Remindedme of the Peter Strzok wiggle in front of Congress. Another oily snake.
Excellent comparison.
We need one of those body language experts to tell us what all those nervous gyrations mean.
I suspect arson was involved and therefore deliberate, but I’m not sure the fire starter had any grand motivations.
Arson is already confirmed in the Kenneth fire and highly suspected in the Palisades fire. The arsonist's grand motivation was "to fuck the whole world over", which is a very very California thing to do.
LIE – California’s smelt fish policy led to the Southern California wildfires
This is an outlandish connection to make. The policy is not about water availability in Southern California.
Broadly, there is no water shortage in Southern California right now, despite Trump’s claims that he would open some imaginary spigot.
Orange County Water District, which supplies groundwater to the north half of the county, has enough supply to carry its 2.5 million customers through the worst of any potential droughts for 3 to 5 years.
The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California also has an abundance, with a record 3.8 million acre-feet of water in storage. That’s enough water to supply 40 million people for a year.
Seems argumentative and non-responsive to the issue.
I also wasn’t aware that Pacific Palisades was in the northern part of Orange County. Is there any part of Orange County suffering uncontrolled wildfires at this time?
Newsom makes no sense, on economics
On Meet the Press, Newsom stated that he wanted to ensure that tax assessments stay the same after rebuilding. But, then he also asserts that more stringent, higher quality, more modern building standards will be applied, which SHOULD change tax assessments.
His policies will make living in those areas more expensive, which seems rational – so why not embrace it rather than misdirect/mislead.
Newsom Meet the Press https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekEMq5dVZb0
Newsom’s body language, especially hand movements, in the Meet the Press interview also struck me, as highly choreographed, such as through media consultants.
Finally, the Meet the Press interview had me thinking of Terry Jones/Sir Bedevere asking Q: “How do you know he is an asshole?” A: “He looks like one!!”
No sense on economics: he's extending regulations against "price gouging" i..e. materials going to highest and best use.
That man is completely incompetent. It's astonishing.
He looks to be on something
Yeah that was really really disturbing. It's pretty hard to control your subconscious mind. This is a man who knows his career is over his reputation even among his most ardent supporters as evaporated
More likely he's sleep deprived
[If I had not seen evidence of his worthless, extravagant management style over the past decades,] " I would have been inclined to think that he was getting ahead of the problem".
Show me a problem solved by Mayor, Lt. Governor and Governor Newsom.
I can certainly show problems where billions have been spent (homeless, high speed rail, drug use, wild fires, Covid, etc) to no avail.
And, per his body language, toss in that little grin of his while addressing the horrors of the fires...
Speculators give money to victims.
Lol, watch him survive this. Between the completely braindead domesticated CA cattle and the media to run interference for him (they already tried this weekend pinning this on climate change) he'll run for POTUS in 28'. When someone asks him in 2028 about the LA fires he'll say "what fires?".
He reminds me of Ted Bundy.
Looks like excitement to me, but he's a sadist, so...
I have no opinion on whether he's a sadist, but I also thought he looked excited. It's strange that in his years governing the state with the, what is it now, sixth largest economy in the world, he hasn't learned to school his expressions. Don't smile when your state is burning. Even if at that moment you're thanking the firefighters, don't smile.
Good call. That is exactly who he reminds me of now that you point it out.
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Gavin Newsom admitting that California’s excessive permits and bureaucratic red tape can be removed overnight and they just choose to make their citizen’s lives more difficult and expensive.
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NEW: Just issued an Executive Order that will allow victims of the SoCal fires to not get caught up in bureaucratic red tape and quickly rebuild their homes.
We are also extending key price gouging protections to help make rebuilding more affordable.
1:46 PM · Jan 12, 2025
He’s just realized he won’t be able to snag the beachfront property he had his eye on…
You might be right about the depth of California's stupidity, but the DNC won't allow him to run for President in '28. JD will be tough to beat, especially if DOGE is successful.
If the Federal govt (in other words, all of us) are paying 100% of the next 6 months of resources there, then we should demand majority share of the decision-making going on there. We can’t be doing this huge recovery without requiring sane water and development procedures that would mitigate risk of a repeat of this catastrophe.
It looked more like the reaction of a homely girl being asked to the prom by the homecoming king.
What a shameless jackass
https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1878618919054823502
Yes. The irrepressible joy that a sociopath feels when he's certain that he's beat out the normal people, outmaneuvered them yet again. He shouldn't be so sure of himself, but being sure of himself is what has gotten Gavin where he is today, and he sees a long, wide road ahead of him
...if the homecoming king was developers.
That is a per-orgasmic twitch as his lizard brain is calculating how much he, his extended family, and cronies are going to make as they buy up condemned land, establish building material firms, etc. After all he is a blood member o the clan Pelosi.
You hear that Kamala, Howard and millions of others still think you have a chance! 2028 is your year! 3rd time's the charm!
Speculation is nothing more than a willing buyer offer a willing seller a price for an asset--both parties benefit. The fact that down the road one party may do better than the other is immaterial. If you don't want to sell your property to a "speculator," don't. Easy peasy. Speculators take huge business risks and the best way to kill a market is to confiscate the "windfall" profits that make taking that risk worthwhile. You need speculators for a market to work--but Newsom and Pelosi and their ilk hate markets (unless they have inside information). They're more into grifting.
California is the 5th largest economy in the world, they should not need any help. I'm of the opinion that this a 100% Californicated mess that needs a 100% Californicated solution.
Agreed. However Biden has already signed off on Fed support, 100% for six months. It’s where we are, afaik.
I've seen him use this a few other times. Yes, it is Cute Gavin at work. Look at me, don't hear me.
I wish that at his next press interview someone would ask him if the French Laundry has burned and if not why not.
This crisis will be used to rezone places like Palisades into high density housing along transportation corridors, so the proles can live in rentals and take the bus to work.
Governor Hair Gel needs to have Adam Carolla tear him a new asshole, like Carolla did back in 2013 (see YouTube video). And then he needs to either resign or be recalled.
Governor Bateman wouldn't be caught dead at the French Laundry. Too easy to get a reservation. He prefers the exclusivity of Dorsia...virtually impossible for tourists to get a reservation.
have you even seen a grown man ....
Very strange body movement and very effeminate. Maui and SoCal are two very different situations. Most of the people in SoCal are rich already, who cares if they get bought out. And they should have high density housing. They wanted cheap nannies, well they have to live somewhere.
OTOH, Maui had lots of working class folks who were providing the labor for tourist industry. They need protection.
with an extra bonus ass hole what kind of trans will he be?
let's wait and see if any re-building activity emerges in these areas
those whose house survived will have memnorable views for a long time
Don't forget a LOT of LA property-owners owned their properties for decades, when LA was still a middle-class kind of town. Now, a 70 year-old original condition two-bedrm one bath wood-frame vinyl-sided tinderbox starter home costs $1.3+ million. A lot of wildfire-destroyed homes won't be rebuilt by their current owners due to lack of adequate property insurance coverage, high construction costs, high building material costs, long permit lead-times (if ever issued), long construction lead-times, and likely shortages of building materials, construction workers and contractors, construction equipment. Then add draconian bureaucracy by LA city, LA county, and CA regulatory agencies.
California/LA planning & zoning regulators are ready to implement "15-minute" high-density rental housing in these destroyed neighborhoods. It's a progressive-liberal land-planner's wet dream.
Probably not deliberate arson by progressive-liberal government regulatory agencies, but absolutely enabled by lax policing of homeless population. On record, more than half (54% supposedly) of LA fires are now caused by homeless folks intentionally setting fires. Regulators likely anticipated availability soon of large tract redevelopment parcels, due to major fire episodes, to create new neighborhood enclaves of high-density housing. This redevelopment policy direction is absolutely tied to deliberately poor land management and intentional prohibition of brush-clearing landscape maintenance.
That's the night that the lights went out for Gavin
That's the night that they hung a guilty as sin man
Well, don't trust your state to no hair-gelled snake oil salesman
'Cause the governor of this state got bloodstains on his hands
Newsom is punch-drunk from his significant national media coverage during wildfires. Reporters are still treating him with respect and deference. He sees sugar plum fairies, fresh 2028 presidential campaign opportunities.
A highly sought after trans is my guess.
He's excited about how much money he's going to make and how much power he has being the one in control of what happens to that land going forward.
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Per the Wikipedia history, Pacific Palisades has been an elite community since effectively after its modern development in the 1920s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Palisades,_Los_Angeles
L.A. proper was largely middle-class, but the area from the Hollywood Hills -- Beverly Hills -- Brentwood -- Santa Monica and over to Malibu has been prime real estate for a very long time.
I personally have zero sympathy for the long-term property owners, as they benefited from Proposition 13 at the expense of everyone else. "I got mine. You go away." Similar greedy and lazy logic is used to extend copyright laws to support family income streams forever and ever.
Once again the people of these areas voted for the people that put these rules in place or voted on the rules themselves…because the rules pretty much kept everything frozen and protected existing homeowners. Newcomers or change was delayed or forbidden. Now these people would have to work with the rules they put in place (or allowed to be put in place) and suddenly they aren’t necessary or for a valid purpose?
One set of rules for everybody. Don’t waive them, get rid of them. Or make the people who created the mess have to deal with it.
"Probably not deliberate arson by progressive-liberal government regulatory agencies"
The red-skied hot-winded night is young...
Lesdyxia strikes again. Or maybe it's a childhood stammer.
I don't think Gavin meant to say that he was working with his legal team to move the plans of speculators to buy up all the land forward, but that's how it came out.
What's with his up-and-down, side-to-side shoulder movement? Hasn't he learned anything from Tim Wlaz's misfortunes? Avoid any "flamboyant" body language.
Newsom's body language shouts one thing loud and clear: HAIR GEL.
His weird smiling and shoulder-rocking is also eerily reminiscent of the way Mayor Bass was smiling in talking about the fires this past weekend. Is this some new democrat gaslighting technique? It's weird as fuck.
Question: If there's no reasonable prospect for rebuilding these devastated areas within the foreseeable future, and therefore if the people directly hit have to relocate, what implications does/should that have in terms of federal disaster relief?
Why are these people so freaking weird?!?
Kamala Harris can't talk like a normal person. The Mayor of Los Angeles with her slack-jawed stare for 2 minutes or her totally weird grinning while talking and reading out "U. R. L." Tim Waltz with the prancing and the "knucklehead" thing and there's too many weird things to list.
Hochul and Whitmer both sound like they're auditioning to be the next Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS. Bob Dole was unable to use the pronoun "I". George W. Bush couldn't speak a sentence longer than 10 words.
Why are we being ruled by mutants?
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in 2024, $153 billion of California's budget was federal money, more than 1/3rd of their entire budget and larger than 37 other states combined. I don't know about others, but I think they've got enough.
The smile, almost laughing, and the rocking shoulders seem to mock the Hawaiian governor’s concerns as not applicable in his California.
More like the lack of astroglide.
He didn’t mention it on this clip but you can see him in others desperately inviting Trump to get involved so Newsom can blame Trump and the federal government when redevelopment goes south.
He didn’t mention it on this clip but you can see him in others desperately inviting Trump to get involved so Newsom can blame Trump and the federal government when redevelopment goes south.
First thing I saw was his hair. Or rather, the hair gel.
The California Coastal Commission will have the final word, and its mostly going to be "No".
How much red tape was cut to rebuild in Paradise Ca.after the Camp Fire. If I recall correctly every home site was considered as like a super fund site. What is the status of the rebuild, is it all rebuilt or are they still waiting on permits. If history is any guide it'll take years to rebuild.
Decades even.
You can take the mutant out of hollyweird, but you can't take the hollyweird out of the mutant.
The entire state is practically a "They Live" commercial.
Strzok. I will NEVER forget that scum. Or another: Alex Vindman
Best advice I heard for Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom is that they should not get on a jet for the next few years. Stay home and take care of business instead of gallivanting around the world.
I recommend that Newsom shave his head or at least get a crew cut. That would be penance, that would be forswearing the cuteness that’s apparently gotten him way too far. We could listen to what he actually has to say substantively and see what happens. Take it from there.
OMG He is the male Kamala. Listen to the blah blah blah and look at those hand gestures. Total Kamala:
https://x.com/thekevindalton/status/1878587916911546643?s=46
And turn it into hair shirt and force him to wear it.
If Newsom had controlled his body language, I would have been inclined to think that he was getting ahead of the problem and that talking to the Governor of Hawaii — who dealt with the aftermath of the Maui fires — made a lot of sense.
I assume he contacted Governor Josh Green to find out how large a kickback he should expect from the land speculators.
Really, Democrats, Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom, and Kamala Harris are the best you’ve got? Maybe you ought to close the doors on the DNC and just go home.
Newsom is a skier. A charitable reading of his body language is that he was expressing the Governor of Hawaii told him how to navigate the ins and outs, twists and turns of what can be expected in this situation.
“Really, Democrats, Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom, and Kamala Harris are the best you’ve got?
They also have David Hogg. Tim Walz wants him to be DNC vice chair .
Travel is the least of their worries. I recommend fashionable body-armor and growing eyes in the back of their heads for Luigi Mangione copycats. Simple statistics would suggest tens, if not hundreds, of new CA Luigis just found their life's motivation starting last week.
He must be a piss poor skier turning his shoulders like that. You use your lower body to turn not you upper body.
At this point, the best course for homeowners of modest means is probably to sell out to "speculators" and use the cash to settle elsewhere. But Newsome will make sure they don't have that option.
He's trying out poses for the colossal statue of himself that he plans for his new 100 acre home in west LA.
I would say he is just delighted to have discovered a way to posture as the defender of the populace against wealthy developers. He knew there was a political pony somewhere! He is also savoring the idea of the hefty donations he can expect from those wealthy developers.
This is the body language of a teenage cheerleader flirting w/the captain of the football team.
He could polish it to a glossy shine. From Hair Gel Hero to Plastic Fantastic, come on Barbie let's go party!
Shave his head and have him walk around in public with a person behind him ringing a bell shouting “shame!”.
lol
Having read more about Newsom’s activity over the weekend, I sense a land grab. He’s announcing a “Marshall Plan”, which was what the US government put together to rebuild Japan. Except when asked about the plan, he didn’t seem to have anymore detail than a title. I suspect the other detail is that the original Marshall Plan involved the transfer of a lot of tax dollars to Japan. The other part is who controls the rebuilding.
From this interview, I think he is looking forward to fully controlling the rebuilding. Lots of kickbacks from developers to contractors. I think the individual homeowners won’t be able to compete.
I see it mainly as saying "I'm so proud of myself that I can say something that sounds like I'm being decisive and effective," while in fact he is just giddy at the prospect of a power grab.
In addition to being a piss poor governor
Many will want the 15-minute rule, high density housing, bike lanes, etc. However, the rich and near-rich in this area are the most hardcore NIMBYs possible. They bet their fortunes on real estate -- their specific houses -- and it's often the only way they have to fund retirement and their lifestyles. They will fiercely resist anything that would harm property values.
This is where California's true left may split from the money-left who use the left's agenda for personal enrichment and to block changes. This replicates the Israel vs. Palestine leftist split.
"California: The land of fruits and nuts"
He is unburdened by what has been burned.
Prices go up with demand. I have a friend who manages rental properties in pricey Newport Beach, CA. He said he is getting a flood of calls from people burned out of Pacific Palisades looking for a house to rent. One of the draws is the reputation that area has for public schools.
I am told by another realtor in Altadena that most people are not going to rebuild. Taylor's Meat Market in Sierra Madre lost its power Tuesday night and lost all its meat. The owner is said to be selling his business.
My home was spared but were are living out of a suitcase. Actually it a bag with some underwear and t-shirts. No electricity or water. But the toxic pollution from burning houses is was frightens me. We will hire cleaning professionals before returning to live in our home.
We were lucky but many of our friends lost their homes.
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