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"Most of the country shifted right in the 2024 presidential election...."

"Trump won the suburbs.... Rural areas went even more for Trump.... Harris also underperformed in urban areas...."


I see my county got bluer though.

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Original Mike বলেছেন...

"I see my county got bluer though."

Well, that's embarrassing.

Lazarus বলেছেন...

Washington State was the only one that gave a higher percentage of the vote to Harris than to Biden. Utah gave a higher percentage to Harris and to Trump, because the Libertarian Party collapsed this year. It looks like the counties that got hit by hurricane Helene also saw the Republican percentage of the vote fall off. I doubt it was because people there were actually happy with Harris and Biden, though.

Iman বলেছেন...

Town too Blue
Everybody knows one
Town too Blue
Nobody can have fun
Me and you are subjects of the Blues now and then
But when you cast a vote to kick them out
They’ll come right back again
Vote them out again

h/t Neil Diamond

Drago বলেছেন...

Strange.

AMDG, the political analysis non-savant assured us this was impossible.

Repeatedly.

n.n বলেছেন...

Libertarian?

RideSpaceMountain বলেছেন...

Roses are red
Your county is bluer
Clearly the fed up have fled
And those left sane are fewer

mccullough বলেছেন...

They are singing the Blues in Madison these days. Oregon isn’t a suburb anymore. It’s another Big Ten team that displaced the Badgers.

Jersey Fled বলেছেন...

Preference Cascade:

“The situation where people's private opinions reach a tipping point and become publicly expressed and accepted”

Leland বলেছেন...

Nice to see Harris (the County, not the VP) get dark red. Now to get rid of the Evita wannabe county judge.

loudogblog বলেছেন...

"I see my county got bluer though."

I suspect that, because our politics has gotten so polarized, liberal people are specifically moving to liberal areas and conservative people are moving to conservative areas. They're actually factoring in the political climate when they decide to relocate. It's a real world parallel to all the people who went to Truth Social and Bluesky.

gilbar বলেছেন...

these types of maps can be fun!
example: they show most of Wyoming as blue..
because Wyoming went from 98% republican to 97%, which it shows as a huge increase in dem votes

Dixcus বলেছেন...

Also, Dane County has the US' lowest number of black people.

It is a racist haven.

Original Mike বলেছেন...

Yes, you need to be able to read derivatives.

Original Mike বলেছেন...

I am surprised Dane County got bluer. I thought we were already at peak blue.

wendybar বলেছেন...

After this, I hope all the blue turns red. Progressives suck. They are hoaxers and liars, and they get away with everything. Not anymore. Time for payback. I, for one, am so sick of this shit.....Jussie should be scorned, laughed at and spit on for what he did. Not sorry.

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Wilbur বলেছেন...

I was puzzled by something at the end of the NPR piece, and it's something I've read or heard a lot:

"In Wayne County, Mich. (Detroit), Harris saw a decline of more than 60,000 votes, while Trump gained about 24,000. Black voters are key in Wayne County, but so are Arab Americans. About 100,000 Arab Americans, the largest population of Arab Americans in the country, live in Dearborn, and many were upset over the Biden administration's policies toward the war in Gaza."

Are we to assume that Arab-Americans regard a Trump administration as less friendly to Israel? That's makes no sense. Or could it be that they voted for Trump for the same general reasons as the rest of the country?

Jamie বলেছেন...

Amen to that, Leland! Signed, your Ft. Bend County neighbor whose kids attended "Evita's" high school

Jupiter বলেছেন...

I suspect what it means is that Arabs vote against, not for.

Jupiter বলেছেন...

"I see my county got bluer though."
And does that give you a warm, fuzzy?

Original Mike বলেছেন...

I always feel like I have a secret when I'm walking around my Madison polling place. If these people only knew!

Jamie বলেছেন...

I would read Arab-American support for Trump as a couple of things: culture war stuff, and maybe - in the privacy of the voting booth - the fact that Arab-Arabs (as distinguished from, or maybe as the larger group to which, Arab-Americans belong) are not fans of the "Palestinians." What do you think?

Jamie বলেছেন...

I think it's interesting that (a) they elected not to show the locations of major cities*, and (b) NOTHING seems to have shifted left by the darkest blue percentage.

* I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that a significant proportion of NPR's audience can't point out precisely where most cities are on a map - because most people can't. So not giving city location dots for reference lets them escape the uncomfortable implication that some of the cities saw among the largest red shifts.

hombre বলেছেন...

"I see my county got bluer though." University folk doubling down on Obama's "fundamental transformation" to a failed nation.

Big Mike বলেছেন...

Nearby Loudoun County, Virginia, went for Harris by 25,000 votes. Four years ago it went for Biden by three times that many votes.

In between a high school boy dress in a skirt (the Washington Post says “kilt”) got a girl alone in a girls’ rest room and raped her. The school district tried to cover it up by sending the offender to a different school, where he promptly did it again. A father protesting the cover-up was arrested and manhandled out of a school board meeting, not long after which Merrick Garland issued his diktat to the effect that people protesting at school board meetings were domestic terrorists.

Could any of that have something to do with the 50,000 vote difference? Feminists into intersectionality might be supportive of trans women, but it’s different when it’s your own daughter who could get cornered in a rest room by a biological male who decides that he’ll be straight long enough to rape her before saying “I’m trans” again.

Readering বলেছেন...

I had read early that Colorado bucked the trend but that does not seem to be true.

Rocco বলেছেন...

I see my county got bluer though.

Definitely after the election results were announced.

Yancey Ward বলেছেন...

As of 1 PM today:

2020- Biden=1,804,352 Trump=1,364,607
2024- Harris=1,727,576 Trump=1,377,040

But CO is a mail-in-vote state and will be counting ballots until July 2026.

Yancey Ward বলেছেন...

The gross margins differences are a deceptive way to illustrate the actual shifts (the margin can go up even if Harris wins by a smaller percentage in a give location). If you really want to see the shift, go to the NYTimes shift graphic.

grimson বলেছেন...

Interesting but superficial.

I was surprised to see rural Nebraska and rural Kansas shifting blue. Picking Lincoln County Nebraska and looking at the voting results, I see that yes, Trump received fewer votes, but there were also fewer votes cast.

Not only did Lincoln County not shift blue, Trump went from 76% of the vote to 77%.

Iman বলেছেন...

RACISTS!!!

Lee Moore বলেছেন...

A somewhat misleading map, as they show the depth of color as a reflection of the gross vote switch not the percentage vote switch. Hence the very populous metropolitan counties are always going to be deep color, and the tumbleweed covered counties are always going to be pale.

Yancey Ward বলেছেন...

It is the sort of map you would construct if you knew your primary readers were innumerate.

Yancey Ward বলেছেন...

Yes, that is the other issue with using gross margins.

JIM বলেছেন...

California voter turnout dropped "significantly" according to Public Policy Institute of California. "A turnout rate of 69.3% based on 16 million votes cast,1.7 million fewer ballots were cast compared to 2020, despite 550,000 more registered voters and 1.8 million more eligible voters".
Note* every eligible voter is sent a mail-in ballot. Votes are still being counted, and need to be certified by December 5th.
I'm beyond embarrassed about what has been done to the electoral system here. I have no doubt fraudulent votes have been cast by people not "eligible". A law and order proposition passed easily in a state facing tsunami level retail theft, but almost every state legislator, not termed out, incumbent was re-elected in a state with the highest tax rates, energy costs, homelessness, poverty, and housing.
And our Governor, the preening ego Newsom, continues his neverTRUMP virtue signaling circus.

Danno বলেছেন...

If you took out a few apartment complexes in Meadowood, Madison would be even less diverse.

Lem Vibe Bandit বলেছেন...

The country doesn’t even know half the shit being done. I don’t know if this is true for sure but: “We now are learning the Biden Administration reallocated VA funds for veterans to illegal migrants…” that’s probably the tip of the iceberg.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

I don't understand how Dane County could get any bluer!

Readering বলেছেন...

Certification by December 6 unless people are persuaded to try what the Republicans tried in 2020/21.

Aggie বলেছেন...

Shows nothing more than the social order of certain demographics, whose leaders understand the power and purpose of vote consolidation. When you can intimidate the voters, that is.

Smilin' Jack বলেছেন...

I think Dane County must be well into the ultraviolet by now.

JaimeRoberto বলেছেন...

A couple weeks ago I had dinner with a guy from Jordan who said he's quite happy with what Israel is doing. He was no fan of Hezbollah and the Palestinians.

Bill Peschel বলেছেন...

None of the Arabs in the nations surrounding Israel want Hamas or Hezbollah or the Palestinians. When Syria admitted them, they fought the Syrians until they were ejected to Lebanon, where they fought the Lebanese.

Bill Peschel বলেছেন...

The NYT published a different map showing where Harris gained and lost votes.

The biggest losses were in the big cities like NY, LA, SF, and Chicago where the Democrats have ruled for decades.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/19/us/politics/voter-turnout-election-trump-harris.html

Jamie বলেছেন...

I missed that it was a gross vote shift, not percentages. File under "ways to lie [or at least obfuscate] with statistics" along with not telling people explicitly (with labeled dots) that so many cities - like Chicago! - shifted redward?

PM বলেছেন...

The 'today's news tomorrow' SF Chronicle staff has been deep-breathing into lunch bags. Kinda fun to read now.

Left Bank of the Charles বলেছেন...

The NPR map shows quite a number of rural areas in red states getting bluer, such as the Iowa county I grew up in, just obviously not enough to turn those areas from red to blue. Still, that does open possibilities for the Democrats coming back in 2026 and 2028. In the places where regular people vote Republican, I don’t think they are all enjoying Performative MAGA.

mikee বলেছেন...

Comparing 2024 to 2020 without accounting for the mail in ballot harvesting allowed under emergency government or judicial decisions in 2020 under the rationale "because COVID" misses the entire reason we had a Biden presidency. Allow one party to generate nearly infinite ballots with or without voter input at all and you get 85million votes for a dementia patient.

Drago বলেছেন...

Colorado is the state where the lunatic democratical Secretary of State "just happened" to have "accidentally" left the passwords for voting machine access on a publicly released excel spreadsheet that was out in the public for 4 MONTHS and never told anyone until one worker in one county went public with the information on a phone call with the SOS office..which was then picked up by Denver News teams. That's when we found out the SOS office KNEW ABOUT and chose not to tell anyone because they didn't want to spool up any of the conspiracy theorists!

You literally can't make this stuff up.

Drago বলেছেন...

Gee, did the republicans "try this" in 2020/21 readering?

And how is the ripoff of Tesla coming along in your beloved Delaware Chancery Court these days? We haven't had an update in awhile.

Yancey Ward বলেছেন...

See- right here is the typical innumerate NPR reader.

grimson বলেছেন...

You might want to check the numbers on your county, but for the "blue shift" ones I checked, as with the rural Nebraska county I checked, there is no blue shift.

Page County, Trump went from 70.2% to 70.4%.
Taylor County, Trump went from 75% to 77%.
Wright County, Trump went from 66% to 67%.

Lee Moore বলেছেন...

Yup, you can obfuscate with graphs and pictures, but in this case I suspect it's just incompetence. There's no political advantage in presenting the picture in this somewhat misleading way, I reckon they just did it without really thinking it through. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

The Big Dog on how to - and how not to - present data in visual form is Edward Tufte -"The Visual Display of Quantitative Information" is a masterpiece.

Tim বলেছেন...

DID your county get bluer? Or did the vote counters get bluer? How much do you actually trust the election crew in your county? I have a lot of faith in my county, and I do wonder if you trust yours?

tolkein বলেছেন...

Well, the count was bluer, that's for certain. How many invalid ballots counted, how many - unlawful - drop box ballots? It didn't matter in the end, but the voting system needs reform to stop sceptics like me having reasons for scepticism.