"That way, his younger children could be a part of one another’s lives, and Mr. Musk could schedule time among them. Directly behind the villa is a six-bedroom mansion.... When in Austin, he often stays at a third mansion about a 10-minute walk away.... One of the mothers, Shivon Zilis, an executive at Neuralink... has moved into one of the homes with her children. But Claire Boucher, the musician better known as Grimes, who is the mother to three of his children, is in a protracted legal fight with Mr. Musk and has so far steered clear. The third mother is Mr. Musk’s first wife, Justine Musk, with whom he has five living children, all in their late teens or older. There is room in the Austin compound if they were to visit, though he is estranged from at least one of those children.... Mr. Musk has said that I.V.F. is a more efficient way of having children because it allows parents to control parts of the process, according to a person who understands his thinking.... In 2021, without Ms. Boucher’s knowledge, Mr. Musk donated sperm to Ms. Zilis, who became pregnant with twins through I.V.F.... That same year, the billionaire and Ms. Boucher were expecting a second child also conceived via I.V.F. but carried by a surrogate.... Further complicating matters, Mr. Musk took a name that he and Ms. Boucher had chosen for their daughter — Valkyrie — and gave it to one of Ms. Zilis’s twins...."
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"Elon Musk Wants Big Families. He Bought a Secret Compound for His. As the billionaire warns of population collapse and the moral obligation to have children, he’s navigating his own complicated family" (NYT)(free-access link).
I wonder what kind of "control" he is doing with IVF.
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how do we know all of this information is factual?
This is in the NYT.
Big Love
"I wonder what kind of "control" he is doing with IVF."
Well, certainly only the very worst kind would do, under these circumstances. Did they show pictures of his evil criminal lair in Austin - and how far is it, exactly, to Joe Rogan's evil broadcasting lair ? ?
Not all eugenics is bad eugenics...
I'm thinking Fela Kuti. For more than one reason.
I wonder what kind of "control" he is doing with IVF.
Choosing the time, place, and manner of his loss of essence?
As the Mormons eventually discovered, more is not always better.
Yeah, NYT is infamous for progressive prevarications, knitting fabrications, citing qualifications, with anonymous sources lacking evidence.
Population collapse is just like all the other crazy future ideas they highlight at the World’s Fair…
Life is fitness. We are head over heals for our Posterity. The alternative is the evolution of abortive ideation.
Worse is the crappy idea some people successful on standardized tests and/or economically people believe they specifically have a moral obligation to procreate. High IQ maybe but too stupid to recognize the data that intelligence and economic success are mean reverting with the next generation…
Musk has five living children with his first wife. Children are better if they are alive I suppose.
I'm very much worried about selective breeding via I.V.F. I'm of the mind that parents get the child that God gives them. This selection process undermines a central tenet of post Enlightenment Western Civilization, that all humans are special and that specialness attaches to humans just by being human. All humans have inherent moral dignity. While I think that there is very strong religious justifications for this belief, there aren't that good of secular justifications for this belief. Purely secular beliefs tend to be more malleable and non-durable. One way to make secular beliefs more durable is to manipulate the societal feelings and emotions around the belief. If humans feel special, noble, and dignified then it becomes harder to accept actions which go against those emotional characterizations. I.V.F. selection of embryos makes humans feel less inherently special.
I'm sure some of this might be factual. But how much of it is laced with mind-reading and BS?
I wonder what kind of "control" he is doing with IVF.
Easiest would be to check for any kind of trisomy
Mormons, orthodox, Alec, Ethel...
Of all the humans I would want to excessivly pro-create .... Elon having tons of children is fine by me.
Indulged Vanity Fetus-h through artificial selection in the modern family.
Who are these people "close to him" who contact the New York times to tell the paper about Musk's "secrets"? My guess is it's "Claire Boucher, the musician better known as Grimes, who is the mother to three of his children, is in a protracted legal fight with Mr. Musk and has so far steered clear."
With IVF, he can have the ketamine filtered out of his jizz
Does he not want to have sex with his baby moms? Maybe its just me but the alternative of jacking off into a test tube is, well. Otoh, he is a very busy person.
This reminds me of the time the NYT's was EXTREMELY interested in where Tucker Carlson lived and what his home looked like. Eventually, Carlson had to threaten to revel where the NYT's editors lived before they would back off.
So, what is the point of publishing all this private information about Musk's family and who is living where? Is this to give Antifa some information for future use?
Imagine how much more gently this sort of personal life would be reported on if Musk were a professional athlete.
One or more of the mothers may have physiological issues that interfere with normal fertilization of an embryo. Grimes may have opted for surrogacy if the first childbirth was a major ordeal.
They lost a son many years back.
reads like Cordelia plan in gentleman jole and the red queen
I just wish he'd do Inga so her IQ would get up to a decent number and we could converse with her as though she is sentient.
Are you doubting "a person who understands his thinking"? It can't get more factual than that. Videos that you see with your own eyes, however, are unreliable.
Naturally one of the ex wives is mad at him.
Ohhhh! Another secret! A secret compound.
@JaimeRoberto-- doubting ""a person who understands his thinking"?"
oh what was I thinking. Such amazing journalism. Fact based mind reading.
Funniest people on the planet the set of those who (on his site) claim Musk is an incel and not that bright.
A baby mama compound. This is everyone's shocked face that most of the women aren't interested. :/ You usually have to say you're a prophet to get that to work.
"prophet": "God told me I get to screw all the wives and daughters!"
n-1: "That's ridiculous!"
1: "I believe him!"
There's always one.
Yes, Utah is at the bottom of soooo many rankings!
/sarc
BS… you championed that as the mouthwash that both whitens your teeth and facilitates your strange visions/hallucinations. Too late to back away from that.
No, she’s just mad at the way she’s treated him… right?
Awww, give the old girl a break.
Cheaper by the dozen. Musk still has a ways to go to catch up with Isaac Singer. Wikipedia says Singer fathered 26 children by five different women.
And how many kids did RFK have?
The takeaway from this might be that even hundreds of billions won't prevent the family perturbations from this course of conduct that nearly everyone else would have easily predicted would occur from this course of conduct.
I think Musk is siring so many children simply to provide proof he has actually had sex with live women...more than once!
The usual sequence is that the woman wants less sex than the man and decides on being mad at him as a good way to express that, i.e. no sex tonight.
The guy doesn't know what's wrong and neither does she, but she's mad at him.
What continues that is that she's as a result mad at herself.
The remake of Succession is going to be wild.
thats not how hereditary traits work
I’ve heard the same thing from women in my circle. He comes across as a incel who actually got women to squelch the ick factor. Money helps I suppose.
Why do you want to converse with me? I don’t want to converse with you, you like Musk have the “ick” factor.
"I wonder what kind of "control" he is doing with IVF"
Give that the ole Insty "Heh". Hey, Somebody's gotta do it. Might as well be him. Hopefully, nobody ends up with a tail.
Not a lot of sex involved with IVF.
Elon emitted to Dawn Lemon he takes ketamine for depression. Ketamine reduces sperm motility. Bing bang boom
Trump said today in N.C. “There is something in my blood” that makes him smart because his uncle was an MIT professor.
Well, that depends, Tom. White pro athlete with conservative leanings? Black pro athlete with conservative leanings? Or all other pro athletes?
They are trying to make it sound like some crazy David Koresh thing, but if you want your kids to have a close relationship with each other, a compound sounds like an excellent idea.
My first thought when I saw the article was about the book, The Godfather. The Corleones all had houses together in a compound like this. If you know you have enemies, it's reasonable to think you might have better security for everyone if they are all in the same area.
Muskedelphia, Muskylvania? Muskiapolis, Muskesota?
Not every billionaire has as many baby mamas, but they do have their own compounds (Like the Kennedys?) -- often with their own bomb shelters.
I wonder if Musk and Zuckerberg and Bezos will end up like Howard Hughes and foresee a darker future for Gates. If the Epstein rumors are true, the dying Gates will probably have to be pulled off a fourteen-year-old.
Elon lives in a way dictated by his enormous self confidence. He takes a view of life that seems "blank slate". It's fascinating to watch, but I'm in the skeptic camp. We are, essentially, evolved beings who understand only a fraction of the reasons why we have evolved as we have. That's why the history of social experimentation is a history of failures that each fall somewhere on the spectrum between noble and ignoble.
Heh.
When I look at Musk I see Heinlein as the greatest prophet that ever lived.
“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as "bad luck.”
― Robert Heinlein
Important note: P-Inga does not think joey biden showering with and sexualizing hus adolescent daughter has the "ick factor".
In fact, she clearly approves of that as she called biden an honorable man and great American.
P-Inga is also cool with Hunter sex trafficking young prostitutes across state lines for illegal drug fueled orgies all captured on video.
None of that is remotely "icky"...such is life in lunatic cultist conspiracy theory P-Inga world.
It has been statistically shown that IQ is a heritable trait to varying degrees.
Thanks for playing.
Yes, more Washington Elites stripping people's rights are never good. The "powers that be" in DC back then were absolute Nazis towards Utah. Stripping all the rights from US Citizens. Including the right to not be forced to testify against your spouse.
And the Supreme Court legalized stripping the right to vote from any member of the Church of Jesus Christ. Democrats will no doubt work towards that again.
Unreconstructed Stalinist Cookie appears kamala-like unclear on precisely what IVF is or involves.
Unexpectedly.
Didn't Hillary proclaim that "it takes a village!" to raise a child? And isn't that what Musk is trying to do, essentially? And yet our leftists are freaking out, because what they really know she meant was that "it takes government to dictate everything to your kids and you have no control over them, the slaves to the all powerful state that everyone is!"
IVF allows you to genetically test embryos (technically blastocysts) to ensure they’re euploid (viable, with no genetic anomalies like Down Syndrome) , which is a significant issue for parents— both male and female— over the age of 35. It also allows for gender selection, but I don’t think that’s as much of an issue for Musk.
I bet Musk wouldn’t go ahead with a fertilized egg with anomalies.
"Musk has five living children with his first wife. Children are better if they are alive I suppose."
One of their children died. That's why it's written like that.
Whether it's reports of RFK Jr. having FaceTime sex or reports of Elon Musk handing out his semen at ketamine parties, there have been many sexually-tinged stories that we all wish we had never had to hear.
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