September 12, 2024

"Former President Donald J. Trump declared on Thursday that he would not debate Vice President Kamala Harris again...."

"'Because we’ve done two debates and because they were successful, there will be no third debate,' he said at the [Tucson] rally, counting his debate against President Biden in June as the first one...."

I'm reading "Election Live Updates: Trump Says He Won’t Do Another Debate as Harris Announces Cash Haul" (NYT).

Is he negotiating?

84 comments:

Dixcus said...

Kamala Harris isn't the legitimate nominee of the Democrat Party. Joe Biden is. Joe Biden won every primary election held in the states and locked up most of the delegates before he was overthrown in a coup led by Barack Obama and other members of the Democrat Party including Harris.

Trump defeated Biden in the first debate. And then defeated Kamala Harris in the second debate despite the fact she was getting an audio feed through bluetooth earrings and also despite the fact that ABC News refused to fact check her many lies in that debate.

Trump will debate legitimate candidates. Not fake candidates. And certainly not candidates who participated in a coup against a sitting United States President.

Trump is for the rule of law and will bring it back once elected and all these coup plotters are in prison.

Leland said...

Keep in mind that Trump already agreed to a 2nd debate with Kamala that was previously scheduled to happen on Fox News, and she skipped out on it. Putting this out there for the Kamala trolls that will claim "he's chicken", because they should explain Kamala previous chickening out.

rastajenk said...

Do the Veeps have a debate scheduled? I sure hope so. I suppose conventional wisdom says they don't really matter, but I think a thorough beatdown by Vance could be a big help.

Dixcus said...

I'd certainly like to hear more about Walz' gay past.

Dixcus said...

When Apollo Creed beat the crap out of Rocky Balboa in Philadelphia, it wasn't Creed demanding a rematch. The loser demands a rematch.

pacwest said...

Vance would mop the floor with Walz. I sure hope there is one debate for the VPs.

Leland said...

I saw an interesting take on Taylor Swift endorsement. Keeping in mind these things are typically planned. The endorsement came out almost immediately after the debate. As if they anticipated needing some other news story in case the media and Harris campaign didn’t want to talk the debate. Suggests low confidence in Harris, but she got help from both moderators. Could that be sustained?

I notice they also don’t want to talk about the great CPI news (just 2.5 annual) because it was still higher than expectation and likely nuked the Fed rate cut, which wouldn’t do anything anyway because it is far too late to improve 3Q economic data to be released just before Election Day. So Tay-tay hides that story as well.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Is he negotiating?

I doubt it. She won't debate him on Fox. Why should he go on another network had have to deal with what he had to during this last debacle?

Michael K said...

Yes, the Fox News debate should be part of his announcement.

Dave Begley said...

If Harris won't debate on Fox, no reason for another debate.

Mason G said...

"I saw an interesting take on Taylor Swift endorsement."

Woman Who Made Career Singing About Her Bad Choices Endorses Kamala

https://babylonbee.com/news/woman-who-made-career-singing-about-her-bad-decisions-endorses-kamala

Mutaman said...

Sure Jan.

Mutaman said...

He's chicken. ( wait until he finds out that they sell and then slaughter live chickens in Harlem and the South Bronx- " "They're eating the chickens, the people that came in, they're eating the chickens".

Mutaman said...

Hopefully Tulsi is prepping Vance.

Inga said...

Just as I said, he will never debate her again. He knows now that she can run circles around him and make him look like a dizzy old man. He’ll never be able to play down what she did to him at that debate, no matter how hard his followers try. He won’t accept Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum on a Fox debate. I bet Harris would’ve agreed to that.

tcrosse said...

Why debate the puppet when he can't debate the puppeteer?

Inga said...

They cut their heads off!

guitar joe said...

Pussy

narciso said...

You dont even believe that

Inga said...

Trump agreed to a Fox debate on Sept, 4th and announced it as if it was a done deal. Harris never agreed to a Sept. 4th debate, so no she did not skip out. There was no agreement.

Mikey NTH said...

After all of the huffing and puffing in the internet is done the answer remains "we'll see ".

Inga said...

Of course I believe that.

Dixcus said...

Trump should announce that he's perfectly willing to debate Barack Obama.

Leland said...

You mean she was to chicken to agree to the Fox debate.

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Mark said...

OK, Boomer.

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Yancey Ward said...

The only way you would get Harris to do another debate is to let Walz and her husband be the moderators.

Trump will do another debate if it is on FoxNews but Harris will never agree to that. Trump should challenge her to a one on one with no moderators- that is what I would do.

rastajenk said...

I'd want to see Gutfield on the panel.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Good. No point to it, no positive for Trump. Media is 100% against him and any LIV voters still undecided are just going to get an overdose of saccharine platitudes for the woman of color and poison penmanship for the white male.

rastajenk said...

In the middle of a UFC ring.

Achilles said...

It is hilarious to see idiots like Inga and Mutaman simultaneously claim Trump is chicken and Harris not debating on Fox is courageous.

You are just stupid people. This is why Kamala is losing so badly.

Trump is so far ahead that they are pretending it is even or he is barely ahead in September. Just look at what has happened between September polls and October polls every single time there is a presidential election. Trump is up almost double digits in real polls.

Dixcus said...

How many of these Democrat wannabe's does he have to debate before ya'll go away?

Achilles said...

Inga is just a stupid person. Trump would happily debate her on Fox or a neutral platform.

Kamala is just scared to go on a stage without earphone earings.

Dixcus said...

Unfortunately, according to my knowledge of his past, Walz would like to be wiped on the floor like a mop. It's all coming out, folks. Just give it some time.

Dixcus said...

Harris would need to win an election before she could be considered a legitimate candidate.

Alas, she has never won a Democrat primary in her life.

Achilles said...

It is September and Trump is slightly ahead in the "polls."

Go look at every election for the last 40 years and look at the comparison between poll numbers in September and August.

Trump is approaching a double digit lead.

Mason G said...

"Trump is so far ahead that they are pretending it is even or he is barely ahead in September. Just look at what has happened between September polls and October polls every single time there is a presidential election."

Or look at this:

https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1834284829225222531

Dixcus said...

Inga isn't stupid. She knows who counts the votes. And she knows already Trump is going to lose.

Our elections are fake. Get that wrapped around your noggin. Because you need to be awake for what is coming next.

Inga said...

“Well, I wouldn’t want to have Martha and Bret. I’d love to have somebody else other than Martha and Bret,” the former president said. “I’d love to have, frankly, Sean [Hannity] or Jesse [Watters] or Laura [Ingraham], you know, somebody else. Let’s give let’s give other people a shot. But I didn’t think Martha and Bret were good last night.”

Dixcus said...

"Slightly ahead is mostly not behind." - Miracle Max

Dixcus said...

They plan to murder Trump anyway, so it hardly matters.

Inga said...

“WASHINGTON, Sept 12 (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris leads Republican Donald Trump 47% to 42% in the race to win the Nov. 5 presidential election, increasing her advantage after a debate against the former president that voters largely think she won, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that closed on Thursday.”

The two-day poll showed Harris with a five percentage point lead among registered voters, just above the four-point advantage she had over Trump in an Aug. 21-28 Reuters/Ipsos poll.”

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-builds-lead-over-trump-voters-see-her-debate-winner-reutersipsos-poll-2024-09-12/

Inga said...

Achilles just can’t stop himself from repeating another stupid conspiracy theory. “Earphone earrings”, haha!

Butkus51 said...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

My inner Commiela


narciso said...

https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1834320675017736347

Wince said...

Trump should hold-out for a moderator-free debate.

Butkus51 said...

When was the last time the democrat party had a real primary? 2004?

Inga said...

“The Morning Consult poll found Harris leading by 5 points after the high-stakes ABC debate, ticking up from the 3- and 4-point leads she held in the same survey before the event in Philadelphia.

If the election were held today, 50 percent of respondents said they would cast their ballot for Harris, up from 49 percent who were polled before the debate.
Trump, on the other hand, lost support. Ahead of the debate, 46 percent of respondents said they would cast their ballot for the former president if the election were held today. After Tuesday’s debate, that decreased to 45 percent.
A majority of Harris’s support comes from Democrats, but she leads Trump among independent voters with 46 percent support to his 40 percent, the survey found.”.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4876880-harris-widens-lead-over-trump-in-post-debate-poll/

Mutaman said...

Trump should have another debates - he needs to tell us about more concepts of a plan that he has.

Dixcus said...

"We have to elect Trump, to see what's in the bill." - Noted stock trader Nancy Pelosi

My name goes here. said...


Is he negotiating?

Yes.

Allow my fever dream for just a moment. It gets leaked that ABC gave debate prep to the Harris campaign. Trump boasts that he won even with a crooked debate. There is outrage too big for the media to hide. He agrees to another debate on his terms.

Dixcus said...

That would be John Edwards. He was literally banging chicks on the campaign bus in front of the press while his wife was battling the cancer that would kill her. He was later charged with crimes in his campaign finances.

Before that, it was Gary Hart, who was literally banging chicks on the campaign bus in front of the press. They later took photos of him finger-banging her on a pier after he denied that he was a womanizer.

Then they went with Al Gore, somebody no chick would ever want.

Eva Marie said...

Always be negotiating.

tcrosse said...

Maybe Kamala could explain a few things about the taxation of unrealized capital gains. Will the gains be taxed again when they are realized? Will they be offset by unrealized capital losses? How will the carry-forward work? If she's so brilliant she must be able to answer.

pious agnostic said...

Honestly, why are journalists (or "journalists") hosting presidential debates. There are international debate societies that are actually respected who know how to do it.

I know. I'm dreaming. Still, answer why ABC news is picking moderators?

Iman said...

“Of course I believe that.”

This person should be required to submit urine for analysis within 24 hours.

boatbuilder said...

It is far from clear that Trump thinks that a Fox panel would be "fair and balanced" either (except possibly as compared to the Dem cheerleaders at the other networks). I certainly wouldn't count on it, if I were Trump. So no more debates.

Iman said...

There’s nothing real about Democrats.

Jersey Fled said...

ABC turned the last debate into a farce. What’s the point of another one.

Lazarus said...

He's not negotiating, but if Harris is willing to debate on Fox News, or NewsMax or OANN he might consider the offer.

Rocco said...

Mason G said…
"Woman Who Made Career Singing About Her Bad Choices Endorses Kamala

Taylor Swift's Cats Endorse Trump: https://babylonbee.com/news/taylor-swifts-cats-endorse-trump

mccullough said...

One debate is enough. Everyone understand who Trump is and who Kamala is.

sunsong said...

He is scared lol

Mark said...

Show us on the doll where the mean lady hurt you, Donald.

loudogblog said...

Since the Democrats picked the first two venues, it's only fair that Trump gets to pick the third venue for a debate.

Kakistocracy said...

Trump said Harris was "dumb as a rock" and then he got crushed by it.

His absent internal monologue is very much at the heart of the decision. He simply can’t be trusted not to lose it under pressure.

Leland said...

According to RealClearPolitics, Morning Consult, from 2014-2022, had an average 5.9 error in polls vs actual election results and all errors were in the Democrats favor. If I was Harris and saw Morning Consult gave me just a 3 point lead, I wouldn’t be getting excited.

guitar joe said...

Makes him look pretty wimpy

Mason G said...

Geeze Louise- what a maroon. He was shot in the head and didn't lose it.

Breezy said...

Our media types are not moderator material. When they become the story, they’ve failed. Joe Rogan should moderate if a third is agreed to.

Trump’s been mistreated too many times. He always increases traffic to these networks during debates so they’ve just cut off their own noses. Idiots.

Readering said...

He rejected the lead Fox News anchors as moderators on air on Fox News. He would only accept right wing talking heads as moderators. He's not negotiating. He sees no upside in another debate before neutral moderators. It worked for the primary. Harris took a cautious approach and it paid off big time. She's now continuing the baiting from the debate.

Jim at said...

As I've said before, people who've been shot aren't afraid to debate a dingbat. This would be his third.

Make the next one on something that remotely resembles neutral ground and then let's see who's chicken.

In addition, what our delusional leftists don't recognize ... people who are behind are the ones who insist on additional debates. Not those who are ahead. Always.

Go ahead. Cite your silly polls showing it to be a national race. It's not. If Kamala was ahead in the swing states, she would be the one refusing Trump's requests for additional debates. Not the other way around.

This is basic shit. Politics 101.

Achilles said...

What happens every year to the polls between September and October Inga?

Are you just going to hide from this with your fake Reuters polls?

Every single election year the Democrat is ahead by 10 points in September. Guess what happens in October. Every single year.

You are just really dumb.

Eva Marie said...

O my, I’ve never seen such leftie panic. Very entertaining.

Mark said...

Remember last week, when it was all about how stupid Harris was and how Trump was going to mop the floor with her?

This flip flop on debates is quite apparent.

Good times, good times.

Kakistocracy said...

They let most of his lies slide, but you have to draw a line somewhere, I think fact checking the claim that democrats execute babies after they are born was not setting a particularly high bar for their fact checking. The only thing they did that favored Harris was let Trump talk more than her and it’s not their job to save Trump from his own crazy rambling.

It comes to something when Republicans are not concerned that their presidential candidate, live on television, said democrats kill babies after birth, but they are very concerned that the moderator pointed out to him that this is not true.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

She agreed to debate on FOX and then pulled out. But now you're "sure" she would agree to do it? Based on what? If she wanted to debate there she would not have canceled it.

Captain BillieBob said...

From X formally known as Twitter
I will be releasing an affidavit from an ABC whistleblower regarding the debate. "I have just signed a non-disclosure agreement with the attorney of the whistleblower. The affidavit states how the Harris campaign was given sample question which were essentially the same questions that were given during the debate and separate assurances of fact checking Donald Trump and that she would NOT be fact checked. Accordingly, the affidavit states several other factors that were built into the debate to give Kamala a significant advantage."

Kakistocracy said...

The bigger mistake was to debate Biden. There was no need to as Biden was behind and the Biden campaign was looking like a damp squib. The Democrats were desperate which is why they coalesced immediately under Harris.

Trump simply still mentally hinged onto a sure win against Biden. Still cannot comprehend his opponent is now no longer Biden and so mentally he is still campaigning against Biden as his mental slips once in a while clearly shows.

Dude1394 said...

I don’t k ow but I wouldn’t do it anywhere but a solidly Republican network. Newsmax maybe.

Mark said...

Is he negotiating?

This is what is called "p*ssying out."

JIM said...

After an all-out media blitz Harris should be at 60-40. However, It's Trump who most voters say is more capable at running the economy. In a normal world where election integrity was an afterthought, not a serious concern, the favorite on the economy would win hands down.

RMc said...

Not if it's on any network but Fox, he won't.