"Elon Musk won't punish the People of Brazil for the illegal acts committed by the tyrant @alexandre against him and his companies – Elon Musk will provide Starlink users in Brazil with free internet rather than shutting it off.
De Moraes has frozen the accounts of X and Starlink employees in Brazil - against Brazilian law, and is now threatening to fine VPN users thousands of Reais per day unless they stop using them.
I love to swim in ponds, lakes, rivers, bays, seas, and oceans. It's great exercise for older guys like me, with less stress on the joints. Do people ever swim in Lake Mendota?
I have happy youthful memories of swimming off the dock behind the Memorial Union. Later on the east side of town, from the beach at Tenney Park. All in season, of course.
I recently was at the Memorial Union Dock. I saw a young guy and his girl drop into a canoe with a case of beer. Happy to see that some things never change.
@iowahawkblog: "never get involved in a land war in Asia never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line never, ever, never challenge a Wisconsite to drinking"
In the battle between Elon Musk and Brazil, there are no heroes — only two sides engaged in an epic display of hypocrisy and overreach.
Musk also looks bad because of his selectiveness. Remember, he keeps claiming that his definition of free speech is “that which matches the law.” At the very least, this highlights again how even Musk doesn’t agree with Musk’s definition of free speech, because it’s nonsensical. Supporting free speech sometimes means you have to stand up against unjust laws.
But in the end, both sides look bad here. Elon’s response is childish and inconsistent with his own statements and actions elsewhere. And Brazil’s laws seem unjust, and its enforcement of the law seems extremely out of proportion with the alleged violations. In the end, the real people who lose out are those in Brazil who have relied on ExTwitter as a useful service.
The rule of Lemnity posted a review of the Kamala Harris interview. One of the commenters mentioned that Dana Bash’s ex husband (div 2007) was one of the 51 co-signers of the letter that falsely claimed that the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation. BTW “Jeremy Bash, a former CIA chief of staff during the Obama presidency, [was appointed] to the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board was announced Friday (Aug 2022) by the Biden administration.” NY Post
Rich, it's the dick thing again. As always. If you want people to understand what you are saying, you need to take that huge dick out of your mouth. I know, I know. Life is hardly worth living without a gigantic dick or two in your oral cavity. But it makes you sound like this; "Mursk gr-blaso grooks hab-ah hrr-groob selectiveness ...". See, that moment when you took the huge dick out of your mouth, you were able to enunciate "selectiveness" perfectly. Not that you made any sense, but at least we could understand you. C'mon. Man! Get the dick out!
Elon Musk is preparing to publish a list, starting tomorrow's w, of the Brazilian laws that deMoraes has broken: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1829772614614536537?t=Z3Q_EdAWg9BVIJPDgrcr5g&s=19
Sounds about as effective as when the left points out Clarence Thomas' expensive gifted vacations.
But as people love to pretend to be experts on the internet, I am sure folks on Twitter are happy to join Musk in pretending to be Brazilian legal experts.
@Mark, one country at a time. Let me ask the question again … and you can dance around it till the (farting) cows come home ….. why do you hate free speech?
Interesting argument. If Musk doesn’t take on all tyrants, he should shut his yap about free speech across the board. So why are you against free speech in the US?
Remember, Dumb Lefty Mark has spent almost 2 years predicting the destruction of X by Threads and other social media platforms (Dumb Lefty Mark used to give us daily updates on X's inevitable demise...but no longer, hmmm) and claiming there is absolutely no difference in how X treats govt censorship demands across the globe compared to other social media platforms....which has already clearly been shown to be another sad and consistently pathetic Dumb Lefty Mark lie.
Tsk tsk tsk
FYI: Dumb Lefty Mark is also all in on the SpaceX/Tesla Failure Hope-Cope Train as well!
Imposing consequences on a website for breaking a country’s laws is defensible. Imposing consequences on citizens of the country for trying to access the web site strikes me as pretty totalitarian.
Imagine if the TikTok ban was followed up by a law making it illegal to access TikTok.
I should say, is defensible if the site does business in that country. Not, I think, if it doesn’t.
"In Brazil, we do not have X anymore since midnight.
I am tweeting this with VPN.
This tweet may cost me almost 10,000 USD according to the decision of tyrant @alexandre de Moraes, friends with @LulaOficial : every Brazilian that post on X from now on will be fined R$ 50,000 according to his illegal "ruling".
My dignity is worth much more than that. Actually, it is priceless. I will keep tweeting regardless of State persecution or threats because I believe in freedom of expression, democracy and real Justice.
Brazilians will take to the streets. On the 7th of September we will make our voices heard very clearly. We will demand Moraes to be impeached by the Senate and to be sent to jail after a fair trial - which Moraes cruelly and unconstitutionally gives not to the people that he persecutes.
Thank you @elonmusk for standing with us. Your attitudes against censorship and authoritarianism are giving us hope and strengthening our cause for freedom in Brazil!"
@Mark. You should be a cheerleader for what Musk done to/ for Twitter regarding Twitter’s previous censorship of opposing political views. Instead you denigrate him at every turn. That’s why it’s clear to me you favor censorship. (Read: Conservative views)
Poor Dumb Lefty Mark. He doesnt want to think about how he has embarrassed himself with serial predictions of X's doom!
LOL
And he clearly still thinks the future of X is just about the social media advertising dollars....its not. As any objective observer can see. X continues to build out the foundation for many other revenue stream opportunities, including direct competition to Paypal, youtube, linkedin, etc. X is now set in about 33 states for cash transfer licensing and should be set in all 50 by early 2025.
And none of the initial investors in X have bailed out for some reason....almost as if they think the future payout from X is going to be there....hmmmm.
But as for the lost ad dollars, who knows? Given where the Texas court case against Media Matters in Fort Worth appears to be heading, all that lost ad revenue, precipitated by Media Matters manipulation of the X algorithm to falsely accuse X of having particular undesirable content appear next to major corporate ad spend content, Media Matters might end up covering that manipulated loss of ad revenue for X.
We will see as each day of X operations puts the lie to Dumb Lefty Mark's "tantrum-my" and spittle-flecked out of control "predictions" driven by near-Rich-level business ignorance.
"China blocks access to X for regular users. We believe that people benefit from additional context when interacting with Chinese government and state-affiliated accounts."
Free Speech is now solely a conservative value and those few people that currently consider themselves liberals and supporters of free speech are having to confront the reality that they are no longer welcome anywhere near the commies in Europe, Brazil and The New Soviet Democraticals in the US
X does not operate in China, nor does any other western social media platform. That has been the case for X/Twitter since 2009.
As for being "in bed with the Chinese Communist Party", that would be the biden crime family, the entire dem party and half the republican party members in DC.
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Looks like Elon decided to FAFO in Brazil and is now in the 'find out' half of that.
@ajtourville
"Elon Musk won't punish the People of Brazil for the illegal acts committed by the tyrant @alexandre against him and his companies – Elon Musk will provide Starlink users in Brazil with free internet rather than shutting it off.
This is what unwavering integrity looks like."
It's easy to be 'unwavering' just hours later, what a bizarre boast.
De Moraes has frozen the accounts of X and Starlink employees in Brazil - against Brazilian law, and is now threatening to fine VPN users thousands of Reais per day unless they stop using them.
Meade, you are just so verbose
Another tyrant surfaces, Mark seems pleased. Shocks me. It’s a case of the “enemy of my enemy is my friend”. The enemy of course being free speech.
I love to swim in ponds, lakes, rivers, bays, seas, and oceans. It's great exercise for older guys like me, with less stress on the joints. Do people ever swim in Lake Mendota?
I have happy youthful memories of swimming off the dock behind the Memorial Union. Later on the east side of town, from the beach at Tenney Park. All in season, of course.
No worries. Elon could buy Brazil, but it's probably not worth having.
I love you, too Meade!
I'm sure the people of Brazil appreciate your concern, Mark.
I recently was at the Memorial Union Dock. I saw a young guy and his girl drop into a canoe with a case of beer. Happy to see that some things never change.
Green Party’s Jill Stein will remain on Wisconsin ballot after court refuses to hear challenge
It turns out Walz had a good reason to be at the first Kamala interview, since getting anointed as the Democratic candidate for president.
Walz wants to know why she might want to be president.
I am curious what is going to happen in Kursk when the leaves fall off of the trees.
Knowing about the recent revelations it's not really surprising that Facebook doesn't seem to be an issue in Brazil.
To ask is to have the answer.
Yeah, the 'free speech' platform he took Saudi money to help purchase. Such paragons of speech involved in that purchase.
Maybe he can send them some poop emojis again.
Mark would prefer Musk take money from Biden’s best friend ….. the Chi-Coms.
I get it Mark, free speech is not your thing.
@iowahawkblog:
"never get involved in a land war in Asia
never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line
never, ever, never challenge a Wisconsite to drinking"
link with a map
TikTok via X: Analysis of Harris interview. Let me know what you think.
In the battle between Elon Musk and Brazil, there are no heroes — only two sides engaged in an epic display of hypocrisy and overreach.
Musk also looks bad because of his selectiveness. Remember, he keeps claiming that his definition of free speech is “that which matches the law.” At the very least, this highlights again how even Musk doesn’t agree with Musk’s definition of free speech, because it’s nonsensical. Supporting free speech sometimes means you have to stand up against unjust laws.
But in the end, both sides look bad here. Elon’s response is childish and inconsistent with his own statements and actions elsewhere. And Brazil’s laws seem unjust, and its enforcement of the law seems extremely out of proportion with the alleged violations. In the end, the real people who lose out are those in Brazil who have relied on ExTwitter as a useful service.
Mark, if the Saudis gave Musk that money to shut down Twitter, you might have a point.
Then again, you DO have a point, which your unconvincing hairpiece does not hide.
"musk also looks bad..." - oh do shut the F up. Musk is none of your leftist totalitarian business.
Lets get the party started.
Lets really get the party started.
Elon Musk has been declared a non-person by the Supreme Democrat Soviet. Thanks for the update Mark and Rich.
This follows the non-personing of Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. They are all fascist reactionaries.
I am old enough to recall that the Soviets did the same thing with everyone opposed to their rule.
American Soviet Democrxats are delighted in the non-personing of all who refuse to obey.
Josephbleau:
I don't have the answer. What is it? Your statement is utterly obscure.
The Flirts
spot on.
The rule of Lemnity posted a review of the Kamala Harris interview. One of the commenters mentioned that Dana Bash’s ex husband (div 2007) was one of the 51 co-signers of the letter that falsely claimed that the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation. BTW “Jeremy Bash, a former CIA chief of staff during the Obama presidency, [was appointed] to the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board was announced Friday (Aug 2022) by the Biden administration.” NY Post
Contract
Fish gotta swim.
Birds gotta fly.
I gotta live
'Til the day I die.
I'm having a hard time understanding you. Could you take that big dick out of your mouth?
Rich, it's the dick thing again. As always. If you want people to understand what you are saying, you need to take that huge dick out of your mouth. I know, I know. Life is hardly worth living without a gigantic dick or two in your oral cavity. But it makes you sound like this; "Mursk gr-blaso grooks hab-ah hrr-groob selectiveness ...".
See, that moment when you took the huge dick out of your mouth, you were able to enunciate "selectiveness" perfectly. Not that you made any sense, but at least we could understand you. C'mon. Man! Get the dick out!
Elon Musk is preparing to publish a list, starting tomorrow's w, of the Brazilian laws that deMoraes has broken:
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1829772614614536537?t=Z3Q_EdAWg9BVIJPDgrcr5g&s=19
Sounds about as effective as when the left points out Clarence Thomas' expensive gifted vacations.
But as people love to pretend to be experts on the internet, I am sure folks on Twitter are happy to join Musk in pretending to be Brazilian legal experts.
"We are living in very dangerous times within America itself. It wasn’t 9/11 that set America on the tyrannical path; it was Obama’s election."
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/08/the_army_launches_a_partisan_attack_against_trump_over_that_arlington_appearance.html
@Mark, why do you free speech?
Call me when Elon stands up for free speech in China.
@Mark, one country at a time. Let me ask the question again … and you can dance around it till the (farting) cows come home ….. why do you hate free speech?
He is in bed with the Chinese Communist Party and perfectly fine with their limits on free speech.
Cos playing as some sort of speech activist in a couple countries is not much an advocate
Interesting argument. If Musk doesn’t take on all tyrants, he should shut his yap about free speech across the board. So why are you against free speech in the US?
LOL
Dumb Lefty Mark at it again. Now fully in bed with the commies in Brazil against free speech and freedom.
How....unsurprising.
Remember, Dumb Lefty Mark has spent almost 2 years predicting the destruction of X by Threads and other social media platforms (Dumb Lefty Mark used to give us daily updates on X's inevitable demise...but no longer, hmmm) and claiming there is absolutely no difference in how X treats govt censorship demands across the globe compared to other social media platforms....which has already clearly been shown to be another sad and consistently pathetic Dumb Lefty Mark lie.
Tsk tsk tsk
FYI: Dumb Lefty Mark is also all in on the SpaceX/Tesla Failure Hope-Cope Train as well!
I am not, why do you keep saying without evidence?
Brazil =/= USA
Imposing consequences on a website for breaking a country’s laws is defensible. Imposing consequences on citizens of the country for trying to access the web site strikes me as pretty totalitarian.
Imagine if the TikTok ban was followed up by a law making it illegal to access TikTok.
I should say, is defensible if the site does business in that country. Not, I think, if it doesn’t.
Verbal flatulence
How was I promoting threads for years before it was released?
And how is Twitter's finances these days, with tepid advertising sales? Keep telling yourself that they're not circling the drain.
Marcel Van Hattem on X:
"In Brazil, we do not have X anymore since midnight.
I am tweeting this with VPN.
This tweet may cost me almost 10,000 USD according to the decision of tyrant @alexandre de Moraes, friends with @LulaOficial : every Brazilian that post on X from now on will be fined R$ 50,000 according to his illegal "ruling".
My dignity is worth much more than that. Actually, it is priceless. I will keep tweeting regardless of State persecution or threats because I believe in freedom of expression, democracy and real Justice.
Brazilians will take to the streets. On the 7th of September we will make our voices heard very clearly. We will demand Moraes to be impeached by the Senate and to be sent to jail after a fair trial - which Moraes cruelly and unconstitutionally gives not to the people that he persecutes.
Thank you @elonmusk for standing with us. Your attitudes against censorship and authoritarianism are giving us hope and strengthening our cause for freedom in Brazil!"
@Mark. You should be a cheerleader for what Musk done to/ for Twitter regarding Twitter’s previous censorship of opposing political views. Instead you denigrate him at every turn. That’s why it’s clear to me you favor censorship. (Read: Conservative views)
Lefty Mark is an expert on Brazil. Just ask him.
Lefty Mark is an expert on Brazil and free speech. Just ask him.
Poor Dumb Lefty Mark. He doesnt want to think about how he has embarrassed himself with serial predictions of X's doom!
LOL
And he clearly still thinks the future of X is just about the social media advertising dollars....its not. As any objective observer can see. X continues to build out the foundation for many other revenue stream opportunities, including direct competition to Paypal, youtube, linkedin, etc. X is now set in about 33 states for cash transfer licensing and should be set in all 50 by early 2025.
And none of the initial investors in X have bailed out for some reason....almost as if they think the future payout from X is going to be there....hmmmm.
But as for the lost ad dollars, who knows? Given where the Texas court case against Media Matters in Fort Worth appears to be heading, all that lost ad revenue, precipitated by Media Matters manipulation of the X algorithm to falsely accuse X of having particular undesirable content appear next to major corporate ad spend content, Media Matters might end up covering that manipulated loss of ad revenue for X.
We will see as each day of X operations puts the lie to Dumb Lefty Mark's "tantrum-my" and spittle-flecked out of control "predictions" driven by near-Rich-level business ignorance.
X is blocked in China. About government and state-affiliated media account labels on X
"China blocks access to X for regular users. We believe that people benefit from additional context when interacting with Chinese government and state-affiliated accounts."
Free Speech is now solely a conservative value and those few people that currently consider themselves liberals and supporters of free speech are having to confront the reality that they are no longer welcome anywhere near the commies in Europe, Brazil and The New Soviet Democraticals in the US
X does not operate in China, nor does any other western social media platform. That has been the case for X/Twitter since 2009.
As for being "in bed with the Chinese Communist Party", that would be the biden crime family, the entire dem party and half the republican party members in DC.
@Drago. ^^^^^^ True! True! True!
Funny, you conveniently ignore how Elon censored a BBC documentary in India after Modi asked.
In fact, he is more than happy to censor things, just depends on which market.
Perhaps Elon could actually have a real fight for free speech there, then!
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