So far, it's a matter of trying to get signed in. I think a lot of people are having trouble. But here's a place to talk about it — your trouble signing in or, with some luck, the actual conversation.
UPDATE: Here's the link to watch if you can, but...
UPDATE 2: I'm in a space where it says "joined" and plays electronic "music"-type sounds.There appears to be a massive DDOS attack on 𝕏. Working on shutting it down.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 13, 2024
Worst case, we will proceed with a smaller number of live listeners and post the conversation later.
UPDATE 3: It's on! I'm hearing Musk introducing the conversation — to get a "feel for what Donald Trump is like in a conversation."
UPDATE 4: Trump's speech is odd, like he's got a swollen tongue, and Musk sounds more nervous than I have ever heard him.
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Yup it's a clusterfuck but it looks like *certain people" got in. I'm getting can't fetch Space msg.
I would NEVER sign in to watch something like this. The elites want to know who is a Trump supporter. This is how they discover that. You are going on a list, whether you know it or not. What they will do with this list has yet to be determined.
I didn't try to go in until the official start time. But I think it was open to go in a bit before that. Maybe that group got in. They asked for a big throng at a particular time, so they should have been able to handle it, especially after having had the big screwup with Ron DeSantis last fall. These things need to work. At this point, I'm being told I've "joined," but there is not sound or picture, just "details not available."
From Musk: "There appears to be a massive DDOS attack on 𝕏. Working on shutting it down.
Worst case, we will proceed with a smaller number of live listeners and post the conversation later."
My sister got in, but just hearing muzak.
I tried to get in to listen to Elon. Is it true Trump offered him Sec. State?!
DDOS are tricky but traceable in most instances. It’ll be curious to see if this one is.
Was anything more predictable?
. It would be better not to announce it in advance, this way Big Tech had time to interfere, plus foreign actors.
I got in, but just music. Unless this is Trump's new thing. Like Ross's keyboarding from Friends.
Supposed to be starting now.
Update from my sister, 780,000 are shown as signed on, but Musk's microphone is muted. Only music. When "captions" option is clicked, it says that no one is talking yet. (8:34 ET)
The EU attacks.
Trump debuts his music skills
Ya'll didn't think they were going to let Donald Trump speak to the nation, did ya'll? They tried to murder the man two weeks ago. You think the CIA/FBI/DOJ are above a little cyber attack?
on now
My sister has it now.
Maybe next time use Peacock
Live now! Elon talking
Just got in. Musk is speaking- saying this isn't an interview, it is a conversation. Aimed at independent open minded voters. He said they spoke yesterday, but didn't record itd.
Hope everyone gets in.
Trump sounds like a human being, not a politician.
Barry Cunningham is relaying it live on Youtube.
JSM
Two friends sitting down and having a chat. Nice.
In.
First time hearing Elon Musk. Doesn't sound African American at all. Sounds like some kind of foreigner
Whenever I listen to Trump he makes it clear that he is constantly thinking about the people around him.
They are rehashing assassination
It could get really interesting later if they can identify the origin of the DDOS attack... and it's federal agency. If- just idle speculation.
"The establishment is making its insecurity and lack of legitimacy apparent."
Reynolds
Too late. If you have ever said something in private, on the net, or in casual public conversation, they already have your name, your picture and your location.
Trump making an important point that the rally goers in Butler did not panic, and make things worse.
Have ya'll noticed that Iran doesn't seem interested in hacking Kamala Harris' network, or shutting down her interviews. Why would that be? Wouldn't they want to hack both campaigns?
Iran being Barack Obama, I mean.
Trump speaking about cop who was looking over roof but did not engage shooter. Not disrespecting police, basically saying the cop had a natural, normal , realistic reaction. Praising SS protecting him.
LOL! "Illegal immigration saved my life"
Trump casually talking about being 1/4 inch from having brains blown out. Reminds me of Biden and Pelosi surrounding White House with fences and razor wire and the military during inauguration. Profiles in Courage
public speaking is not Elon's strong suit
I hope Elon can carve out some scarce time in his busy schedule to work for Trump's administration.
public speaking is not Trump's strong either. He should take lessons from Vance.
Swollen tongue or new dentures?
Full disclosure, I have no interface with social media, be it X(Twitter), Facebook (& all its' ancillary's), or Meta (& all its' ancillary's) so I just wait for the postmortem's from trusted sources (not Althouse's MSM). That said, seems there's a highly financed group that'll do anything to muzzle DJT. Wonder who that could be?
MikeD - all you can go to CitizenFreePress - they provide a link you can just click through to get the audio
"Readering said...
"Was anything more predictable?"
Than a DDOS attack? Nope, probably not. But I don't think that says what you think it says.
Than a DDOS attack? Nope, probably not. But I don't think that says what you think it says.
I have no need to hear it live. I assume it will be available tomorrow.
Love it. Blaming DDOS at least shows a better PR team than when the same damn thing happened when DeSantis was going to announce on Twitter.
Maybe he can sue some advertisers who left about this, too.
Seems to be working fine. Trump and Musk sound as expected.
Fanfare with Barry Cunningham is on YouTube with the audio now. For about 20 minutes all the YouTube’s offering it were taken down. But came back later.
Musk is excellent with his analysis of the usual Trump rally speech points Trump is repeating. Musk needs SS protection as much as DJT does.
In every rant about illegals, Trump should acknowledge they are not all rapists and murderers. The normal illegals want the criminals removed as well.
Although illegal, there are plenty of decent people involved.
Kinda ironic though, that Democrats providing so many free services and housing for illegals while homeless and low income citizens are starving and suffering.
Elon trying to take on Joe Rogan?
FullMoon
"In every rant about illegals, Trump should acknowledge they are not all rapists and murderers. The normal illegals want the criminals removed as well. "
My advice to Trump is to just stop whining about how unfair everything is.
"The normal illegals want the criminals removed as well."
They could go home if the accommodations here are not to their liking, could they not?
Musk: It seems like a lot of people are mad at you for having a vision of how to make this country great why is that?
Trump: It's all so unfair.
When two people who both know they are the smartest person in a room are in a room together, what happens?
"The rest of X appears to be working normally, however, and a source at the company confirmed to The Verge that there wasn’t actually a denial-of-service attack. Another X staffer said there was a “99 percent” chance Elon was lying about an attack.”
https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219121/donald-trump-elon-musk-interview-x-twitter-crashes
If someone really did launch a DDOS attack on X I hope they had the class to just spam the word “cis” at it a few trillion times.
All the MSM will talk about is the delay in the broadcast. What these two titans are saying is pure gold.
Not surprised the conversation was attacked/hacked. EU threatened Musk today. US tried to kill Trump only a month ago. Demonstrates in real time the value of free speech, and it's threat to war mongering totalitarians.
X faced similar issues when Musk interviewed DeSantis. The Deep State is everywhere. Trump’s either slurring his words tonight or his dentures are sliding around in his mouth.
Rich just can't deal with what Musk and Trump are actually saying right now.
Rich is just another intellectual coward. The democrats have no policies that anyone will actually support. They are completely soulless.
It's Trump and Musk vs the rest of the war mongering, totalitarian establishment. Huge moment. Imagine if Washington and Ben Franklin defied the controlled, world wide state media, and did a live podcast to the world on their own. In the face of REAL threats against them. Franklin did it with the printing press. Took his press to France with him. Musk is doing it with X. Only question is does America have the attention span to keep up?
When Regime outlets post their speech we point and laugh.
When anyone disagrees with the regime you all demand censorship and attack outlets that don't toe your line.
It is all collapsing around you now. You took your shot and you missed.
Rich
Trump’s either slurring his words tonight or his dentures are sliding around in his mouth.
Bullshit. It's digital streaming. Like a bad Mp3 download. It's not analog. The replay will be massive. You're an idiot.
Lol. Lefties fixated on Dos . Who cares? Problem solved, fascinating conversation taking place. Looking forward to Elon and Kamala, unburdened by
teleprompters and pre arranged questions.
The best part is that you are all making it so obvious.
The next 2 months are going to be fun because at some point Harris will have to come out of the bunker. You are all just cowards at every level.
I can hear it. but i have to get up early.
Elon proposed a 'Dept. of Efficiency". Bless his heart!
The biggest problem for the little lefty cowards is that they know Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are completely incapable of doing what Trump is doing right now.
To be fair, they do have other... talents.
Trump needs to calm down and let Elon talk more. Elon seems to be a better politician than Trump.
Trump is taking the platform as his opportunity to make his std. speech points. Maybe he thinks more listeners will hear him on X. But Elon agreeing with him is what Trump needs. But he won’t let him speak.
Advantage: Trump is demonstrating he can extemporaneously discuss HUGE issues, with a business world leader.
Disadvantage: The education establishment has dumbed down the voting population. So has smart phones. This discussion is probably over the head of "educated" Americans.
Listening via Viva Frei on YT. Quite a remarkable difference between Trump’s ability to think and communicate clearly and quickly and that Joe Biden interview on Sunday.
Guess they didn’t learn much from the Desantis launch X fiasco.....
We’ll have to wait for Harris to pull her head out her ass to hear her speak, but it may be a long wait.
The discussion is over your head. And the honesty of the conversation. They are currently disagreeing on C02. It's what free speech is about. Lost on you.
Well, ya know, all the good engineers left and X is bankrupting Musk.
As I already know who'll best represent my positions (DJT) I see no reason to spend the little time I have left for confirmation bias.
You just can't deal with 2 men who are obviously way more intelligent than you. so you have to make up fake quotes.
Rich
Trump’s either slurring his words tonight or his dentures are sliding around in his mouth.
It's interesting that someone is saying that. At another site, I saw almost the same comment from several people--also with the "new dentures?" comment. It's quite a coincidence that the only people saying that is those that are rabid Trump haters. It is the ones who are true believers (still) in the Russia/Trump collusion. Everyone else seems to have no problem with the streaming once getting past the DDOS attack. No one else seems to hear a lisp or slurring. Just the usual anti-Trumpers who call Trump Drumpf or TheFatGuy. I thought that an interesting data point.
Given the almost word for word comments from those commenters insisting something is wrong with Trump speech pattern, when it is obviously not true, there is no other conclusion to be reached but that those are paid commenters posting the talking point provided to them by the Harris campaign.
I wonder how much it pays to sell your soul in such a manner. Or do they hate our country so much they want to see it fail under democrat policies?
I have known and presumably hired many "illegals," who are hardworking and nice. But they are breaking the law. If I went to, I dunno, Ireland, and stayed there illegally for several years, I wouldn't think I had any right to stay when they finally caught up to me.
The "normal illegals" are like the people who just jump the turnstiles to ride the train, and don't rob anyone.
Yeah, they should have expected a DDOS attack given everything else the left has thrown at both Trump and Musk. It's foolish that after everything, we still have hope that our government will not try to suppress speech.
Prosperity agenda all the way. Go Elon. Go Trump.
Elon "We are in deep trouble if it goes the other way."
So you're not going to address the fact that Trump's vision is about making the US great again? Just try to claim that Trump is whining about its being unfair? When has Harris, or Biden, or Obama, said that the goal was to return the US to greatness? Harris is just, "We're all so joyful about how things are! " Biden was (and isn't it hard to remember that he's still president?), "Before me was dystopia and after me will be dystopia!" Obama was, "America sucks and is in need of fundamental transformation!"
I am optimistic a little. Elon solves problems. He seems to be acutely aware of the problems the USA is facing. I think he can help us find solutions.
Thanks for that report, cfs. Rich's tone/style changed dramatically a few months ago. Though there was never a doubt about his politics (and if there was, he declared himself a LLR, so that nailed it) his posts were at least level-headed. Not anymore. Now it's insults and disinformation.
Obviously, it pays better to spout the handler's talking points.
Hours now, and he is still talking off the cuff, intelligibly. Wouldn't you just love to hear Kamala doing this with ANY interviewer?
If Harris tried to have such a multi-subject conversation with Musk it would probably be so hilarious that even WE would start cackling.
Wow, this wrapped up on a high note! Trump says we need to talk more about and believe in the American dream again; he tells Elon that he embodies the American dream. Beautiful!
It was a good conversation. I do wonder if anyone will ask the WaPo reporter if the DDOS attack was what he was talking about when he asked KJP if the Biden administration was just going to let Trump go on Twitter and speak with Musk without trying to do something to stop the spread of "misinformation".
Trump's voice is normal in a video recorded of him. The slurred effect seems to be a digital artifact. https://x.com/cstanley/status/1823181268387037607
Kamala embodies Maduro
"Trump's voice is normal in a video recorded of him."
So the claims of "new dentures" were nothing but a load of crap.
Who could have seen *that* coming?
“Trump's speech is odd, like he's got a swollen tongue, and Musk sounds more nervous than I have ever heard him.”
The AI has some kinks to work out.
Whatever one might think of the specifics, this is the sort of conversation we need more of.
I think the real loss was of the people who weren't yes men at Twitter.
Technical failures during events like this are the result of having sycophants not experts in the room. It's a tech company in a post-covid world. Peacock can stream the Opening Ceremony to many many millions more people without a hitch.
Elon has owned Twitter and claimed to be able to do this for a year and half. What a joke.
I would pay to hear Musk have a 2-hour conversation with Kamala Harris. It would be even more effective than Trump's debate with Biden.
Oh, I'm sure it will be a registered Republican…
AA mentioned slurred speech as well. Sounds normal on my laptop, X, and Firefox. Must be some legitimate technical situation.
Trump sounded normal to me. Elon sounded normal too. He always has a hesitation in his voice...a mini-stutter (unlike Biden who has never been recorded with a stutter in his life).
Down to the ground with WILLIE BROWN he got the records.Total delusional. Way too old
This was a big win for Trump. He got to address a different kind of audience and show a side of himself that they needed to see. Musk made the conversation more interesting than it would be with the usual political interviewer type.
It was effective enough that I expect to see the press excoriating them both over it and pretending it went badly.
Freeman Hunt
"This was a big win for Trump. He got to address a different kind of audience and show a side of himself that they needed to see. Musk made the conversation more interesting than it would be with the usual political interviewer type."
“She’ll be worse than him,” Trump said of Harris. “Because she’s a believer in the radical left and he wasn’t.”
“I think you’re right,” Musk said."'
Big win ! Really interesting.
Elon Musk’s “conversation” with former President Donald Trump ended up rocky. The interview, hosted on X Spaces and scheduled to begin at 8 PM ET Monday night, crashed immediately and didn’t begin until 42 minutes later.
Those who did manage to get into the Space, including several Verge staffers, said it kicked off with lo-fi techno playing from Trump’s account for roughly 30 minutes.
18 minutes after the conversation was supposed to begin, Musk claimed that X was the target of a “massive DDOS attack” that had made it impossible for the Space to proceed as planned.
The rest of X appears to be working normally, however, and a source at the company confirmed to The Verge that there wasn’t a denial-of-service attack. Another X staffer said there was a “99 percent” chance Elon was lying about an attack.
So the Xitter platform collapsed again just like it did in March 2023 for the DeSantis campaign launch. The world's richest man continues to lose megabucks on one of the world's largest social networks to the point that needed technical upgrades never happen. Fascism is an easier and cheaper answer for Musk when Tesla and government prices can always be raised to restore the wealth he lost buying Twitter.
Summer can't end a day too soon for my tastes. 4:00 am now and it's 68F. That's a big improvement around here.
The DDOS is literally millions of people trying to sign in and view all at the same time.
Funny: "Read 32.4k replies"
Maybe AI can reduce them to a sentence or two.
Listening to it on ":Viva Frei". To the usual suspects. Wouldn't it be great if Elon has the same interview with Kamala Harris. Yes/No. State your reasons.
How now dinky dau.
musk is a no one and trump rehashed old stale talking points.I dont care do you?
If you didn't care, you would have skipped this thread.
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