August 26, 2024

"A California beach town is banning residents from smoking inside their own homes, saying the health benefits outweigh concerns over government overreach."

"Carlsbad, a surfing hot spot near San Diego, has decided to prohibit people from lighting up inside apartments, condos and other shared buildings where multiple families live.... At least 84 of California’s 483 municipalities — including Beverly Hills, Cupertino and Pasadena — have enacted similar bans in multi-family private residences, according to the American Nonsmokers’ Rights Foundation."

The London Times reports.

Yes, sometimes I get my news of what's happening in the U.S. from a U.K. paper.

Here's another one: "California’s TikTok generation must learn joined-up handwriting/US state is the latest to adopt rules that require cursive writing to be taught in schools." I'd never seen the expression "joined-up handwriting." By the way, I didn't see the term "cursive" back when I was learning it. It was just called "writing" — as opposed to "printing." Somewhat later, before "cursive," I saw "script." But "joined-up handwriting" is completely new to me, and it really makes it seem silly: Whatever was so important about not lifting the pen up when going from letter to letter? It was once believed to be faster, and there was so much time to be saved.

One Californian proponent of the new requirement (a Democrat) asserted that "there’s a lot of research that shows that cursive handwriting enhances a child’s brain development, including memorisation, and improves fine motor skills."

78 comments:

Paul Zrimsek said...

They mind their own business about as well as Tim Walz.

R C Belaire said...

When a homeschooled grandson was learning cursive, he would print the block letters and then go back and draw a line between the bottom of each letter in the word. Not quite what Mom was after...

AlbertAnonymous said...

Can’t do “x” in your own home because… reasons/public safety/bigbro says so. Well our acquiesce to the Covid restrictions really upended the door, didn’t it?

AlbertAnonymous said...

Opened not upended

Dave Begley said...

Back in the 80s, Garrison Keilor had a short story about how the government had chased the last smokers in America to a cave somewhere in New Mexico. Or something like that. Turned out to be true.

RideSpaceMountain said...

...and then they'll make an exception for weed.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

I lost cursive when I took up drafting in vocational high school in Massachusetts. The schools here in the states didn’t have rules one way or the other. So, whenever I had to write something, other than on a drawing, it was practice for my drafting skills. I did continue cursive name signing long after stopping all cursive, until one day after losing my wallet, after a night out, I went to the bank to get some cash and the only way to prove it was me was via my long lost cursive signature. 😞

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

My old signature cursed me that day.

Inga said...

The UK papers often seem to have more accurate reporting than some US news sources.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Progressive politicization of personal behavior is harmful to human's health. Let's outlaw that in public or private.

Yancey Ward said...

I only use cursive now for my signature. Cursive is faster but if you don't use it much the skill erodes and your writing can be difficult to read, even for yourself.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

"Mind your own damn business" said Tim who ordered people to stay in their homes. Unfortunately he let rioters burn down their businesses while the people were huddled in their homes. Nobody was minding them! Don't be like Tim.

Yancey Ward said...

The ban on marijuana smoking in shared buildings will be removed at some point in the not too distant future. It is only there now to smooth the passage of this law.

jameswhy said...

Called it penmanship when I was in elementary school. That’s probably not woke these days (has a man in it),

tcrosse said...

Does the smoking ban include marijuana?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

"Freedom! We BELIEVE in Freedom!" they screamed last week. This week they are right back to telling you to drive an EV, don't cook on a gas stove, and now don't smoke in your own home. Turns out you have exactly one "freedom" left that they will allow: abortion whenever and wherever you want it.

Freedom!

Wa St Blogger said...

A town in Texas has enacted a law banning sex outside of marriage. A spokesman for the mayor said the health benefits outweigh any government overreach. By eliminating sex outside of marriage, it eliminates the pesky venereal diseases, plus other communicable pathogens, including Covid. Additional benefits include elimination of many unwanted pregnancies that could be fatal to fetal life or risk the well-being of the mother.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Because your side dominates the US news industry. Therefore the truth is hidden, obscured, "fact-checked" away and ignored when inconvenient to the Left.

tommyesq said...

Good point. Could add sodomy to the list of banned activities on the same basis. Way to go, dems!

rehajm said...

The post says 'shared buildings', apartments and condos. If you've ever lived or visited friends in these places you quickly discover you're sharing air with your neighbors. Smoke can travel through the HVAC returns. Odors are unstoppable.
Also, smokers do things like smoke on their balcony, or open windows, and the smoke will reach your neighbors.

My Boston building had a no smoking policy- everywhere. Even weed. I was all for it...

Mark said...

I'm more concerned that when I have the windows of my apartment style condo open these days, eventually I get treated with the stench of marijuana wafting through my windows.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

That would be racist. So I would expect a weed exemption.

PM said...

A bit deceptive to use "homes" in the headline then explain the actual banning is in shared buildings.

khematite said...

When they switched us over from printing to cursive in fourth grade, the teacher did call it "cursive writing." But I was so resentful of the bait-and-switch involved in denigrating a skill I had learned pretty well that, in my mind's eye, I always saw it as the "curse of writing."

lonejustice said...

I understand the concern about government overreach. And I certainly believe that anyone should be able to smoke in their own home. But I remember in law school when I decided to quit smoking cigarettes. I lived in a upstairs apartment in a quadplex, because I was going to law school on loans and didn't have enough money to buy my own house. The people in the apartment below me were chain smokers, and believe me, the cigarette smoke drifted up to my living area all day and all night long, and sometimes I could hardly breathe. I guess I could have moved, but at that time I had enough stress dealing with law school besides having the stress of having to move to another apartment just because of smokers. My bottom line is that you can do whatever the fuck you want to do in your apartment or duplex or whatever, but if what you are doing is causing harm to your neighbors, like blasting music at 2:00 a.m in the morning, then you should be prohibited from doing it.

n.n said...

memorise (v.)
chiefly British English spelling of memorize; for suffix, see -ize. Related: Memorised; memorising; memorisation.


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Paul said...

Next will be salt... then sugar... but they will not stop drinking nor taking drugs nor smoking pot! In fact they will give free needles and have 'safe' shooting alleys.

Balfegor said...

I think "joined-up handwriting" may be a British phrase. E.g., here is a BBC article from a few years ago commenting on similar developments in Illinois, and putting "cursive" in quotation marks (or "inverted commas," I suppose) as though it were an unfamiliar term.

On the merits, I'm not opposed to children being required to learn penmanship. I do think it likely helps somewhat with fine motor control, but regular block letters probably would do as well. It's probably useful in other ways too. Copperplate would be difficult to read without some familiarity with cursive, I expect. The lowercase r's in the Declaration of Independence, for example, probably wouldn't read as r to someone who never learned cursive.

Jersey Fled said...

“ I lost cursive when I took up drafting in vocational high school”

Most engineers and draftsmen I know don’t do cursive. I have to practice my signature before I write a check or vote.

Kate said...

My MiL had perfect penmanship, each letter formed as school taught, but I was the only one who could read her letters and cards. Even excellent cursive written by a human can become illegible. But who handwrites anymore?

Leland said...

Your building and residents ban it, great. Your government bans it, sue them to get your rights back.

Mark said...

But, but ... my talking points say to make this a critique of Kamala

I, too, have shared a HVAC system with a heavy smoker.

gilbar said...

From January residents will not be able to smoke or vape cannabis and nicotine products indoors or on balconies, porches and decks. The law does not apply to single-family homes or hotels and motels.

wild chicken said...

We called it longhand.

Deep State Reformer said...

All of us COVID 19 veterans remember that talking point from the government spox mouths? I do. Califorios are either stupid sheep or boiling frogs, and I will leave to the big brain commenters here to decide which. Ah, for the days when the Black Panther Party occupied the public galleries of the state capitol armed with "military assaults guns with magazine clips" and the pols had to back down. Good times. Nowadays in California it's only the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those men that even have any firearms (and sadly they mainly use them to slaughter each other with, but that's for another day.) Angela Davis helped kidnap and kill a judge and the BPP and the SLA shot it out with the police quite regularly. And don't forget about the Roof Top Koreans either. What kind of society can be gulled this badly by the pasty girly-men that run Cali? The "you can't smoke in your homes edicts" ought to elicit automatic weapons fire, arson, and car bombs on the attempted enforcers of that shit, but I digress. Point is: Import enough migrants, force out the fire-in-the-belly types, and disarm everyone left and that's where you end up. Fuck Cali. Let the whole place burn up or slide into the ocean. Which ever comes first.

The Godfather said...

I volunteer in a local library, and one day a young-ish man came in to do some research for a (I assume) grad-school paper. After awhile he asked the library staff if they could translate a document "in cursive" for him. It was (as someone of my generation might say) "all Greek to him". It wasn't just a single document that he couldn't read, it was ANYTHING in handwriting! Which, of course, meant most documents from the era he was studying.
I realized that our education system has failed to educate a significant part of the upcoming generation. The vast majority of handwritten documents created in the last several centuries are "in secret code" for many of our young people.
Is this one reason why so many young people don't understand what "Congress shall make no law abridging . . . " means?

typingtalker said...

“But the one thing we can all agree on is that we must mandate cursive.”

In reality, the one thing we should all agree on is that we must mandate keyboarding.

Howard said...

Longhand, handwriting and cursive is what I recall and you were graded on penmanship. Usually a C for me.

I don't support the sympathy for smoke trespassing. If folks would just contain their smoke within their own domicile, no problem.

Fred Drinkwater said...

smoking in your apartment in a multi-family building was banned in Belmont, CA (south of SF) over 12 years ago.

Craig Mc said...

I marvel at my own cursive hand-writing from first year university - after which I've typed 99.999% of all words, and hand-printed the rest (shopping & to-do lists really). I couldn't cursive my way out of a wet paper bag now. I doubt any computing professional could.

Long-form hand-writing demands cursive. Printing is too slow. Both are hopelessly inefficient compared to typing though.

tcrosse said...

My father's handwriting was very tidy, but indecipherable. Somehow I inherited the knack of reading it, but my mother never could. I was taught cursive in grade school, but it was a very ornate hand which I abandoned for something less fancy.

AndrewV said...

I use to have excellent cursive handwriting until the Navy beat it out of me by having to fill out all of the logs and forms in block letters.

reader said...

This made me laugh. My son was one of the last to be taught cursive and it was pretty perfunctory. His cursive is atrocious.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=240&v=Edxr25t8trc&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE

gspencer said...

The august town fathers have also banned residents from saying any negative things about the town fathers.

Leland said...

Silly Mark, it is more a critique of Walz, who uses police and national guard to stop people standing on their front porch on a nice summer evening.

narciso said...

I dont smoke , but that is by choice, in part because of family history

however the folks who have turned California is a putrid toxic dumpsterfire can make no demands

they used to joke about my handwriting, alluding to Doctor's script, but in the years I reviewed classwork, I discovered a whole new form of cuneiform, from students who are unfamiliar with pen and pencil

Quaestor said...

"...there’s a lot of research that shows that cursive handwriting enhances a child’s brain development, including memorisation, and improves fine motor skills."

Democrats must always appease the science priesthood. I seriously doubt the alleged research both exists and affirms those clamed benefits. Cursive should be taught because children should be able to read the testaments of the past in their original forms for themselves. They should not be dependent on a priesthood of scholars to create that "understanding" for them second-hand. Schools that refuse to require some basic level of competence in both cursive penmanship and reading the handwriting of others are complicit in an insidious effort to insolate the rising generation entirely in the 21st century with no ability to understand the past in its own terms. If you can't read the original Declaration or the Constitution in its handwritten form, how can you know what you be told about the contents of those documents is true?

Peachy said...

As long as it's nanny-state progressive leftism - taking away freedom is all well and good. right?

Arashi said...

So take up tobacco chewing, put your artisanal cuspidor on your deck and protest away. Not smoking, you get your nicotine fix and annoy the hell out of the ninnies.

EdwdLny said...

So, no smoking, but using the sidewalks, and building entrances as toilets is OK. Dumping trash and refuse into gutters is OK. Homeless and druggies taking over public spaces and soiling those areas is OK. You people are totally fucked up. Oh, almost forgot, in those locales where marijuana is legal, the stench permeates everywhere. It is overpowering even driving on the expressway, yuck.Good grief.
Regarding cursive and penmanship, as a left handed individual, my cursive was expected to be awful. I out performed their expectations by a comfortable margin. As the years accumulate the quality has declined a bit. Eh, getting old isn't for sissies. So there's that.

Big Mike said...

Being a Baby Booker, I was taught cursive in the 3rd grade. Yet I have, and always have had, terrible fine motor skills, so the “lot of research” looks pretty bogus to me. Given that politicians in general, and Democrats in particular, take special pleasure in using junk science to support things they want to do anyway, I’d like to see the “lot of research,” and I’d like to see their data, examine their methodology, and, in particular, see how they corrected for differences in the populations of students taught cursive and those not taught cursive.

MOfarmer said...

Yep. Back in the 50's

Deep State Reformer said...

This is not about anybody's health friends. This is about making everybody bend the knee or else.

Megaera3 said...

The US Treasury puts the cursive signature of the Secretary on its bills; one of them, in my Pleistocene youth, had handwriting so small and difficult that it was delightfully described as looking like the trail of a wounded flea.

Big Mike said...

Baby BooMer. This new way of commenting makes proofreading harder

rehajm said...

The cursive writing old biddie showed up in third grade class, passed out the paper and set it in the appropriate angle for right handed writing. Being left handed I turned may paper in the opposite direction…and lit a fire. The yelling didn’t stop until I moved away. Cursive writing taught me people can really suck donkey sometimes…

rehajm said...

I tried writing backwards to drag instead of push and I can still do it but I could never visualize the space I would need on the line…

…when I got to college I met the guy down the hall that took notes with both hands…also in pentameter when he was bored…

rehajm said...

The guy from Saudi Arabia down the hall would invite his friends that chew that red khat…the custom is to spit it on the wall near the elevators. That was an annoy the hell out of the ninnies…

Old and slow said...

Another British use of the phrase "joined up". "Joined-up government is a new term coined in the 1990s for an old administrative doctrine called 'coordination'"

Ralph L said...

It freaked me out that my mother and her sister had identical cursive, but they'd had the same teacher, their aunt. As a southpaw, I hated writing and was bad at it. Never could do a consistent signature, and it's gotten worse with age. My dad maintained perfect Palmer when he wasn't sure who I was, until a stroke at 95.

Old and slow said...

Signatures aren't required to be legible, only reproducible.

stlcdr said...

See Trump's signature: very distinctive.

stlcdr said...

It was called 'joined-up' handwriting as a kid. calling it 'cursive' was easy to adopt.

(when you can do joined-up handwriting you can do anything!}

boatbuilder said...

Way back when smoking indoors was not unusual (although it was considered good form to ask permission) my mother (who did not smoke) would light up lots of candles when guests smoked because she had read somewhere that it helped dissipate he smoke (or something). It had the side benefit that it made the smokers feel awkward, which I am certain was intentional.

mikee said...

I took a semester of Russian language in high school as an elective. The teacher got the class printing Cyrillic letters easily enough, but said he didn't have the patience to teach us to write cursive Cyrillic. Then he made a joke in which he cursed in Russian and said, "That is cursive Cyrillic!" I have no more than a few words of Russian after all these years, but I still like that teacher.

boatbuilder said...

Wouldn't the ban be more easily justified as a fire safety measure?

Curious George said...

Yep. My first thought too. But gets more clicks.

Gusty Winds said...

One Californian proponent of the new requirement (a Democrat) asserted that "there’s a lot of research that shows that cursive handwriting enhances a child’s brain development, including memorization, and improves fine motor skills."

This is the first intelligent thing I seen from a Democrat in decades. How about we get back to teaching the kids cursive and get rid of the Ritalin?

rastajenk said...

And 60's.

rastajenk said...

Enjoy it while you can...

rastajenk said...

Coming from the horseracing world, I read that as Baby Bookie.

dbp said...

I think cursive stemmed from the technology of quill pens. The reason I think so, having done zero historical research, is from my experience with fountain pens. I took up using a fountain pen for notes midway through college and found it easy to write longhand and hard to print. The ink flows really easily, making printing kind of a mess. Longhand looks great with a quill pen and it's really easy to do because there's not much drag on the paper, like there is when you use a ball point pen.

Roger Sweeny said...

"One Californian proponent of the new requirement (a Democrat) asserted that "there’s a lot of research that shows that cursive handwriting enhances a child’s brain development, including memorisation, and improves fine motor skills.""
I would be very surprised if there were any actual controlled experiments. I feel pretty sure that the researchers simply found a correlation. Which can probably be better explained by, "smarter kids are more likely to be taught and to be willing and able to learn cursive and, gee, they have "enhanced brain development" compared to stupider kids."

Tina Trent said...

Cursive and memorization are excellent developmental skills. This was a conservative educational issue five minutes ago. When did it switch to a liberal one?

Matt Harris said...

I first heard the term "joined-up writing" in one of the Harry Potter novels. Book 5 I believe.

KellyM said...

Also being a southpaw, it was difficult going at first when all I had was a pencil. Pushing the lead across the paper rather than pulling it meant a rather untidy sheet full of holes and snags. I think so many left-handed people, by necessity, learned to write with their hand curled awkwardly over the paper in order to avoid drilling the point through or snapping it off.

Luckily, my mother also being left-handed, she taught me how to hold the pencil correctly. But, I had to practice a lot to develop good penmanship that was consistent and readable. Certain letters are just more difficult to form properly when you’re a lefty. Once I switched to ink pens and then to fountain pens it became even easier.

Mikey NTH said...

My thought also.

Mikey NTH said...

My neice (still in high school) can write cursive, and very well.