“We’re going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts,” Trump said. “Because it’s the only way.”
Except, of course, for wealthy white guys like Ross Ulbricht.
So, until the written word started to gain ground, oral history was how almost all knowledge was passed on, right? There were drawings, there were symbolic systems like knots on a string, but if you wanted to tell the story of your people, you passed it from mouth to ear to mouth. And people were very very good at remembering oral histories.
I recently heard someone talking about how we moderns think of oral histories as like a game of telephone - there was bound to be corruption of the message. But dig deeper into the analogy and you realize that the rules of telephone - whispering, no repetition - are set up to create corruption of the message, because it's more fun that way. The analogist suggested karate as an alternative: because one karate teacher carefully passes down the process of teaching karate to her students, with lots of repetition and practice and commitment to accuracy, and because the students are just as committed to learning it well, karate can be passed through generations with very little loss of information. And that's a lot more likely to be the way societally important information like the history of a people was passed on, isn't it?
And while there's no definitive definition of consciousness or agreement of what constitutes it, it's pretty well accepted that language acquisition was an early development in anatomically modern humans and probably played a very important role in the development of higher level consciousness, since higher level consciousness does seem to have as a component a theory of mind, and it's hard to have a theory of mind if you can't know what other people at least say they're thinking.
So. There are lots of cultures with a "paradise lost" narrative in their origin myths. What if... bear with me... those myths are the remnant of oral histories perhaps a hundred thousand years old (the world's oldest cave paintings are 45,000 years old) of the dawn of human consciousness and morality? The generation in which those humans, anatomically modern and capable of the same cognition we possess, decided (or realized) that, unlike the animals they saw around them, it was not good to kill indiscriminately, to rape, to murder the offspring of a rival?
What if? I mean, it seems to me that that realization or decision could have been world-shaking to our ancestors. All around them they could see animals behaving in ways that they also behaved - but at some point, those early humans concluded that they should act against their physical natures. If that happened in your generation, if - in essence - you ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, wouldn't you want to pass that along to your grandchildren?
And while an oral history may be able to survive intact for hundreds or maybe even a thousand years (the Iliad is, I understand, reliably theorized to have survived in solely oral form for around 400 years before it was written down), tens of thousands or a hundred thousand years is bound to bring about some significant mutations, I'd think.
wildswan, who is that? Google itself, the Fount of All Knowledge, doesn't seem to be giving me an accurate answer. Morley? I'm not seeing "stranger," I'm seeing "true love."
Mutaman quoted (accurately or not, who knows): “We’re going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts,” Trump said. “Because it’s the only way.”
Mutaman quoted (accurately or not, who knows): “We’re going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts,” Trump said. “Because it’s the only way.”
Why is that any more radical than "We’re going to be demanding for everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive taxpayer money in order to allow them to continue," Progs said. "Because it’s the only way."
One of these days (years?) I hope to return to Madison WI (last trip in 2016 following the GOP Nat'l Convention in Cleveland Oh) for more than a couple of days and I will take the same walk.
Although, NOT at 5:00 am.
Always wanted to return for a Frank Lloyd Wright immersive experience.
Hamas is crazy, having launched eight missiles from Rafah toward Tel Aviv in sight of IDF forces. As usual, three were shot down by the Iron Dome and five landed in open spaces. If 3,000 Iranian missiles didn't work why launch the first Gaza missiles since mid-April?
When the war is lost, just surrender and the world will get back to supporting the Palestinians, supplying all necessities, but this time perhaps in the middle of the south Negev desert where Hamas can be better handled.
I've thought the same thing about deep time oral history, Jamie. Are there any echoes left from Homo Erectus or Neanderthal?
I surmise the fall from grace getting kicked out of the Garden of Eden once humans gained knowledge of good and evil represents the transition from naked Hunter gathering to clothed civilization.
The other day, in the wrong thread somebody said... "Wow, Althouse has turned off moderation!"
If you want to ensure -Moderation Back On- (See Seinfeld Ping Lawsuit against Elaine (Lawsuit Back On)) all you need to do is, keep bring it up outside the Sunrise -Talk About Whatever You Want- venue.
The road sign "Comments should respond to material raised in the post." Still Up!
Forgive them for they know not what they do.
End of Rant.
(I saved this comment to post it when the Sunrise post came up, but I forgot)
Tired of being politically correct @USBornNRaised The Biden regime won't allow Catholic mass. Yes, you heard me right.
For 60+ years, the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic fraternity, have held a Memorial Day mass at the Poplar Grove National Cemetery in Virginia.
However, this year they face a significant obstacle as the National Park Service (NPS) has labeled the religious service as a 'demonstration,' leading to its prohibition at the Petersburg site.
Within hours of my filing, the Biden Administration reversed course and will now allow the Knights of Columbus to gather at the Poplar Grove National Cemetery this Memorial Day.
It’s shameful that they were denied in the first place.
"The reason I didn’t file paperwork for the Libertarian Nomination, which I would have absolutely gotten if I wanted it (as everyone could tell by the enthusiasm of the Crowd last night!), was the fact that, as the Republican Nominee, I am not allowed to have the Nomination of another Party," he said in the post.
The Republican National Committee did not immediately respond to a request to clarify party rules. The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request to clarify Trump's previous dual nominations [by the GOP and the Conservative party] in New York.
Activist Chase Oliver was selected as the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee later on Sunday night. He clinched the nomination during the seventh round of votes with just over 60% of ballots.
There is a regular Op-ed columnist in the local Pittsburgh newspaper who is also Duquesne Law school professor. Hates Trump. Duquesne University is a catholic university. His latest piece is about the alleged misdeeds of justices Alito and Thomas. He wants their removal. I emailed him and reminded him that they were key to overturning Roe v. Wade. Crickets.
I know it was a waste of time but I emailed the law school dean and reminded her of the same.
It’s raining here in ATL right now and the streets are clear of people and traffic. Holidays do that to this little city.
I was thinking about that song by the band Garbage, I’m only Happy When It Rains.
To be clear, as politicos like to say when in trouble, I’m not ONLY happy when it rains, but I am happy every time it rains.
In fact, I have a theory about the Christmas song lyrics “let it snow, let it snow, let it snow” was actually stolen from a song celebrating the rainy season. It was let it rain, let it rain, let it rain ☔️
How would I feel about a rain delay while at a MLB ballpark? 😅
It’s funny that progressives don’t think 2017-2021 happened, so they can pretend what a Trump presidency will be like. Worse, they want people think Trump is like Biden of 1994 passing the Crime Bill, as if Trump wasn’t the President that signed the “First Step Act”.
For those who remember the "Goodbye to Gahrie" post, I just moderated through this comment from his brother Thom:
"Good Morning everyone. Last Monday his school gave out 2 scholarships in his name. My wife and daughter attended the event. I am still grieving too much to attend. Perhaps I failed my brother by not going but I know I would not be able to contain my emotions. I am crying now as I type this. I do not know how much was raised, doesnt matter, but I do know they had enough to divide it into two scholarships rather then just one. If you have the means and desire I plan to give a little each year to keep this Scholarship going - the Address for the school is a few comments above. Thank you for anyone who did give. I would also like to take this moment to remind all of you to update your wills, Trusts and beneficiaries for all your accounts. My brother died without all of those and I am currently wading thru Probate for an intestate estate. Not a lot of fun. I could get a lawyer but I am doing it alone as I am not giving a lawyer $20,000 statutory fees for an uncontested probate. Currently at the inventory and appraisal stage. Thank you all for your kind words about my brother. If you wish you can correspond with me at Tfkirby@gmail.com
Thom's advice about updating your trusts, etc. is correct.
Don't ask me how I know, but it is a terrible thing to deal with lawyers, trusts, insurance companies, hospitals, etc. when someone you love has just passed away.
"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says a bottled water producer is recalling thousands of cases shipped nationwide due to multiple issues.
The FDA announced on May 23 that Natural Waters of Viti Limited is voluntarily recalling more than 78,000 cases of “Fiji Natural Artesian Water” due to manganese and three bacterial genera. The water was sent to the state of Washington before distribution nationally to customers through online retailers like Amazon.com, according to a company social media post on X.
This was initially announced in March and classified as a Class III recall by the FDA. A Class III recall “is not likely to cause adverse health consequences,” according to the FDA.
Melissa England, a spokeswoman for The Wonderful Company which represents Fiji Natural Artesian Water, told 27 News on Saturday, May 25 that most of the water bottles impacted by the recall have been reclaimed. The remaining water bottles are being held in warehouses prior to being returned.
(Editor’s Note: This recall has been updated to reflect the majority of the recalled water bottles have been reclaimed.)"
Silly me, I have to wonder how "voluntary" the recall of nearly two million cases of product and packaging might be, considering the loss of revenue.
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“We’re going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts,” Trump said. “Because it’s the only way.”
Except, of course, for wealthy white guys like Ross Ulbricht.
Woman contemplates eternity ...
The usual image for 'a bright idea' is a light bulb over a head. Here we have the sun.
No pressure.
Literally the last lap of the 500 and the local NBC affiliate switches to commercials. Unbelievable.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/israeli-airstrike-rafah-kills-2-top-hamas-commanders-dozens-civilians
I've been thinking about consciousness lately.
So, until the written word started to gain ground, oral history was how almost all knowledge was passed on, right? There were drawings, there were symbolic systems like knots on a string, but if you wanted to tell the story of your people, you passed it from mouth to ear to mouth. And people were very very good at remembering oral histories.
I recently heard someone talking about how we moderns think of oral histories as like a game of telephone - there was bound to be corruption of the message. But dig deeper into the analogy and you realize that the rules of telephone - whispering, no repetition - are set up to create corruption of the message, because it's more fun that way. The analogist suggested karate as an alternative: because one karate teacher carefully passes down the process of teaching karate to her students, with lots of repetition and practice and commitment to accuracy, and because the students are just as committed to learning it well, karate can be passed through generations with very little loss of information. And that's a lot more likely to be the way societally important information like the history of a people was passed on, isn't it?
And while there's no definitive definition of consciousness or agreement of what constitutes it, it's pretty well accepted that language acquisition was an early development in anatomically modern humans and probably played a very important role in the development of higher level consciousness, since higher level consciousness does seem to have as a component a theory of mind, and it's hard to have a theory of mind if you can't know what other people at least say they're thinking.
So. There are lots of cultures with a "paradise lost" narrative in their origin myths. What if... bear with me... those myths are the remnant of oral histories perhaps a hundred thousand years old (the world's oldest cave paintings are 45,000 years old) of the dawn of human consciousness and morality? The generation in which those humans, anatomically modern and capable of the same cognition we possess, decided (or realized) that, unlike the animals they saw around them, it was not good to kill indiscriminately, to rape, to murder the offspring of a rival?
What if? I mean, it seems to me that that realization or decision could have been world-shaking to our ancestors. All around them they could see animals behaving in ways that they also behaved - but at some point, those early humans concluded that they should act against their physical natures. If that happened in your generation, if - in essence - you ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, wouldn't you want to pass that along to your grandchildren?
And while an oral history may be able to survive intact for hundreds or maybe even a thousand years (the Iliad is, I understand, reliably theorized to have survived in solely oral form for around 400 years before it was written down), tens of thousands or a hundred thousand years is bound to bring about some significant mutations, I'd think.
Anyway. Time for dinner.
But wouldn't that be cool?
Whither away, Stranger,
Whither away so fast?
I travel a track
That's built to last
But goes I know not whither.
Love that last photo.
Still waiting for the calendar. You could pick a bunch of your favorites and then poll to get the top 12.
wildswan, who is that? Google itself, the Fount of All Knowledge, doesn't seem to be giving me an accurate answer. Morley? I'm not seeing "stranger," I'm seeing "true love."
We control the contrast, the depth, the focus, ... in The Outer Lake.
Mutaman quoted (accurately or not, who knows): “We’re going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts,” Trump said. “Because it’s the only way.”
Well that will certainly cull the leftie herd.
Jamie,
I've never known where it comes from.
Mutaman quoted (accurately or not, who knows): “We’re going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts,” Trump said. “Because it’s the only way.”
Why is that any more radical than "We’re going to be demanding for everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive taxpayer money in order to allow them to continue," Progs said. "Because it’s the only way."
BTW- the second scenario is currently in play, the first- not so much.
(Hit publish too soon- sorry)
Lovely pics!
What a nice ritual you and Meade have. My wife and I also walk every day and it is really special.
My late wife and I had such a morning ritual, and I tried to keep it up after she died, but it became awkward when people would ask where she was.
One of these days (years?) I hope to return to Madison WI (last trip in 2016 following the GOP Nat'l Convention in Cleveland Oh) for more than a couple of days and I will take the same walk.
Although, NOT at 5:00 am.
Always wanted to return for a Frank Lloyd Wright immersive experience.
YouTube: The Democrats worst case scenario
Hamas is crazy, having launched eight missiles from Rafah toward Tel Aviv in sight of IDF forces. As usual, three were shot down by the Iron Dome and five landed in open spaces. If 3,000 Iranian missiles didn't work why launch the first Gaza missiles since mid-April?
When the war is lost, just surrender and the world will get back to supporting the Palestinians, supplying all necessities, but this time perhaps in the middle of the south Negev desert where Hamas can be better handled.
I've thought the same thing about deep time oral history, Jamie. Are there any echoes left from Homo Erectus or Neanderthal?
I surmise the fall from grace getting kicked out of the Garden of Eden once humans gained knowledge of good and evil represents the transition from naked Hunter gathering to clothed civilization.
Via X: "The Four Stages of Mainstream Journalism"
Musk must have somebody finding gems for him to tweet.
MENSA dues up 50% since 2020
FJB
The other day, in the wrong thread somebody said... "Wow, Althouse has turned off moderation!"
If you want to ensure -Moderation Back On- (See Seinfeld Ping Lawsuit against Elaine (Lawsuit Back On)) all you need to do is, keep bring it up outside the Sunrise -Talk About Whatever You Want- venue.
The road sign "Comments should respond to material raised in the post." Still Up!
Forgive them for they know not what they do.
End of Rant.
(I saved this comment to post it when the Sunrise post came up, but I forgot)
https://www.foxnews.com/world/israeli-airstrike-rafah-kills-2-top-hamas-commanders-dozens-civilians
"No, they ain't makin' jews like jesus anymore,
They don't turn the other cheek the way they done before...."
Here is an idea.
Trump should go to more Democrat strongholds.
I worked with a MENSA until the Seattle police (local cops) dragged him out of the office. He was attempting to steal data from a former employer.
I laughed like hell!
Mensa folks are sadly immature, and not very smart.
'MENSA dues up 50% since 2020'
Cue Groucho Marx...
Seen on Instapundit:
1) Israel finds the bodies of hostages in UN buildings.
2) UN's top courts orders Israel to stop looking and go home.
That's where we are.
The most Catholic president, ever. Or something.
Tired of being politically correct
@USBornNRaised
The Biden regime won't allow Catholic mass. Yes, you heard me right.
For 60+ years, the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic fraternity, have held a Memorial Day mass at the Poplar Grove National Cemetery in Virginia.
However, this year they face a significant obstacle as the National Park Service (NPS) has labeled the religious service as a 'demonstration,' leading to its prohibition at the Petersburg site.
Jason Miyares
@JasonMiyaresVA
Within hours of my filing, the Biden Administration reversed course and will now allow the Knights of Columbus to gather at the Poplar Grove National Cemetery this Memorial Day.
It’s shameful that they were denied in the first place.
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
U.S. Fleet Forces Command Commander Admiral: Non-citizens are attempting to INFILTRATE our military bases
The Navy is seeing this 2-3x PER WEEK
The Flag Guy
@TheFlagGuy_
Replying to @EndWokeness
Our country is under attack from land, air and sea and Bumbling Joe Biden is eating ice cream.
9:29 AM · May 26, 2024
I’ve noticed the pictures have shrunk. I went back and they were ok, the size was ok back on May 23rd. Since then, the pictures are smaller.
As Norma Desmond said, "I Am Big, It's the Pictures That Got Small"
"The reason I didn’t file paperwork for the Libertarian Nomination, which I would have absolutely gotten if I wanted it (as everyone could tell by the enthusiasm of the Crowd last night!), was the fact that, as the Republican Nominee, I am not allowed to have the Nomination of another Party," he said in the post.
The Republican National Committee did not immediately respond to a request to clarify party rules. The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request to clarify Trump's previous dual nominations [by the GOP and the Conservative party] in New York.
Activist Chase Oliver was selected as the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee later on Sunday night. He clinched the nomination during the seventh round of votes with just over 60% of ballots.
There is a regular Op-ed columnist in the local Pittsburgh newspaper who is also Duquesne Law school professor. Hates Trump. Duquesne University is a catholic university. His latest piece is about the alleged misdeeds of justices Alito and Thomas. He wants their removal. I emailed him and reminded him that they were key to overturning Roe v. Wade. Crickets.
I know it was a waste of time but I emailed the law school dean and reminded her of the same.
tcrosse reminds me of “The Incredible Shrinking Man”. That was some state of the art special effects for the time.
For the record, nobody is happier than me, that, at least for the moment, comment moderation is down. Thanks
It’s raining here in ATL right now and the streets are clear of people and traffic. Holidays do that to this little city.
I was thinking about that song by the band Garbage, I’m only Happy When It Rains.
To be clear, as politicos like to say when in trouble, I’m not ONLY happy when it rains, but I am happy every time it rains.
In fact, I have a theory about the Christmas song lyrics “let it snow, let it snow, let it snow” was actually stolen from a song celebrating the rainy season. It was let it rain, let it rain, let it rain ☔️
How would I feel about a rain delay while at a MLB ballpark? 😅
It’s funny that progressives don’t think 2017-2021 happened, so they can pretend what a Trump presidency will be like. Worse, they want people think Trump is like Biden of 1994 passing the Crime Bill, as if Trump wasn’t the President that signed the “First Step Act”.
For those who remember the "Goodbye to Gahrie" post, I just moderated through this comment from his brother Thom:
"Good Morning everyone. Last Monday his school gave out 2 scholarships in his name. My wife and daughter attended the event. I am still grieving too much to attend. Perhaps I failed my brother by not going but I know I would not be able to contain my emotions. I am crying now as I type this. I do not know how much was raised, doesnt matter, but I do know they had enough to divide it into two scholarships rather then just one. If you have the means and desire I plan to give a little each year to keep this Scholarship going - the Address for the school is a few comments above. Thank you for anyone who did give. I would also like to take this moment to remind all of you to update your wills, Trusts and beneficiaries for all your accounts. My brother died without all of those and I am currently wading thru Probate for an intestate estate. Not a lot of fun. I could get a lawyer but I am doing it alone as I am not giving a lawyer $20,000 statutory fees for an uncontested probate. Currently at the inventory and appraisal stage. Thank you all for your kind words about my brother. If you wish you can correspond with me at Tfkirby@gmail.com
"5/27/24, 8:40 AM"
Thom's advice about updating your trusts, etc. is correct.
Don't ask me how I know, but it is a terrible thing to deal with lawyers, trusts, insurance companies, hospitals, etc. when someone you love has just passed away.
Thank you AA for sharing the "Goodbye to Gahrie" follow on.
I like the cattail photo. Nice composition.
You never told us there was a dock. That changes things. Now the Uboat makes sense.
Nearly 1.9 million cases of water impacted by FDA recall
"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says a bottled water producer is recalling thousands of cases shipped nationwide due to multiple issues.
The FDA announced on May 23 that Natural Waters of Viti Limited is voluntarily recalling more than 78,000 cases of “Fiji Natural Artesian Water” due to manganese and three bacterial genera. The water was sent to the state of Washington before distribution nationally to customers through online retailers like Amazon.com, according to a company social media post on X.
This was initially announced in March and classified as a Class III recall by the FDA. A Class III recall “is not likely to cause adverse health consequences,” according to the FDA.
Melissa England, a spokeswoman for The Wonderful Company which represents Fiji Natural Artesian Water, told 27 News on Saturday, May 25 that most of the water bottles impacted by the recall have been reclaimed. The remaining water bottles are being held in warehouses prior to being returned.
(Editor’s Note: This recall has been updated to reflect the majority of the recalled water bottles have been reclaimed.)"
Silly me, I have to wonder how "voluntary" the recall of nearly two million cases of product and packaging might be, considering the loss of revenue.
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